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    Re: PRINCETON ANNOUNCES TOP-RANKED RECRUITING CLASS IN FCS

    I remember a pretty bad Citadel team beating a Princeton team (mid-level Ivy that year) 38-7 in that infamous game where some cadets got into an altercation with some in the Princeton marching band.

    Princeton's recruiting class is #1 probably because they signed Brevin White, who BTW got a late offer from Alabama. The Ivies do get their fair share of players that would be considered blue-chippers in the FCS and G5, but top to bottom they just can't compete with the top 10 of the FCS.

    BTW..NDSU's recruiting class ranking is 134. That's laughably low considering they usually have more talent than just about all of the FCS and a significant number of G5 teams, too.
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    Re: PRINCETON ANNOUNCES TOP-RANKED RECRUITING CLASS IN FCS

    Quote Originally Posted by FCS_pwns_FBS View Post
    I remember a pretty bad Citadel team beating a Princeton team (mid-level Ivy that year) 38-7 in that infamous game where some cadets got into an altercation with some in the Princeton marching band.

    Princeton's recruiting class is #1 probably because they signed Brevin White, who BTW got a late offer from Alabama. The Ivies do get their fair share of players that would be considered blue-chippers in the FCS and G5, but top to bottom they just can't compete with the top 10 of the FCS.

    BTW..NDSU's recruiting class ranking is 134. That's laughably low considering they usually have more talent than just about all of the FCS and a significant number of G5 teams, too.
    It's not that simple. NDSU recruits to play in the system. And also does heavy recruiting from football camps. Just because a recruit doesn't have enough money to go to enough camps, or stars, or is a multi sport athlete doesn't mean NDSU won't recruit them.

    Our high end recruits are getting poached off by P5 teams, rarely G5 teams. I would say the level of talent could be about average for a G5 team. But we would never know, because unlike Alabama or Ohio State a NDSU offer doesn't give you an automatic 3-4 star. Sometimes a FCS only offer will drop you from 3 to 2, or 2 to nr. Add to this the FCOA, we should start seeing results from that next year.

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    And Yale finished 5-5 (3-4 in Ivy play), so the win accurately demonstrated the relative strength of The Ivy League vis-a-vis The Big Sky.
    Thatís not how that actually works but okay.


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    Quote Originally Posted by centennial View Post
    It's not that simple. NDSU recruits to play in the system. And also does heavy recruiting from football camps. Just because a recruit doesn't have enough money to go to enough camps, or stars, or is a multi sport athlete doesn't mean NDSU won't recruit them.

    Our high end recruits are getting poached off by P5 teams, rarely G5 teams. I would say the level of talent could be about average for a G5 team. But we would never know, because unlike Alabama or Ohio State a NDSU offer doesn't give you an automatic 3-4 star. Sometimes a FCS only offer will drop you from 3 to 2, or 2 to nr. Add to this the FCOA, we should start seeing results from that next year.
    Everybody who can't fill up their rosters with high school all-Americans is "recruiting to a system".

    Your last sentence is correct. I don't have much doubt that if the 247 or Scout guys were evaluating recruits and were blinded to who has offered a recruit, the rankings would look different.

    Not only is there probably a bias to who is offering someone, but often these websites have different people doing different conferences. Georgia Southern and App State have both boat-raced MAC champions in the Mobile Bowl that had higher-rated players across the board on their rosters.
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    Re: PRINCETON ANNOUNCES TOP-RANKED RECRUITING CLASS IN FCS

    Quote Originally Posted by FCS_pwns_FBS View Post

    Princeton's recruiting class is #1 probably because they signed Brevin White, who BTW got a late offer from Alabama.

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    White is definitely a big part of it. Princeton's announcement makes it seem like they are going to break the Ivy record for consecutive wins. But they just graduated a QB who had an SEC offer and was Ivy MVP. And they still finished seventh in the league. I'm not sure how much more production they are expecting from White. Offense was not Princeton's problem last season...
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    Re: PRINCETON ANNOUNCES TOP-RANKED RECRUITING CLASS IN FCS

    Quote Originally Posted by FCS_pwns_FBS View Post
    I remember a pretty bad Citadel team beating a Princeton team (mid-level Ivy that year) 38-7 in that infamous game where some cadets got into an altercation with some in the Princeton marching band.
    That was actually the 2nd game of the series, which was at Princeton. The band incident happened the prior year at The Citadel in 2008. Princeton finished the 2009 season with a losing record of 4-6, 3-4.

    The 2008 Princeton team, which also lost to The Citadel, was even worse. They finished 2-5 in Ivy League play. The Princeton coach was fired after the 2009 season.

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    Re: PRINCETON ANNOUNCES TOP-RANKED RECRUITING CLASS IN FCS

    Quote Originally Posted by Son of Eli View Post

    The 2008 Princeton team, which also lost to The Citadel, was even worse. They finished 2-5 in Ivy League play. The Princeton coach was fired after the 2009 season.
    And then things REALLY got bad. Princeton went 2-18 the next two years, often getting blown away.

    To the new (and current) coach's credit, things started clicking in year 3 and he's won two titles since.

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    Re: PRINCETON ANNOUNCES TOP-RANKED RECRUITING CLASS IN FCS

    Quote Originally Posted by Go Green View Post
    And then things REALLY got bad. Princeton went 2-18 the next two years, often getting blown away.

    To the new (and current) coach's credit, things started clicking in year 3 and he's won two titles since.
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    Re: PRINCETON ANNOUNCES TOP-RANKED RECRUITING CLASS IN FCS

    Quote Originally Posted by andthehomeofthe-BIZON- View Post
    Foul on the play!!! Refer to Rule 113-B

    No Ivy league poster can refer to an Ivy league team winning a title unless

    1. It's before WWII
    2. Won and Titles is separated by an asterisks that clearly states Ivy League
    3. It's being used sarcastically to make fun of the HBCU "National Championship"

    Duly noted. Will take my penalty yards and plan accordingly for the next plays.


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    Re: PRINCETON ANNOUNCES TOP-RANKED RECRUITING CLASS IN FCS

    Quote Originally Posted by FCS_pwns_FBS View Post
    I remember a pretty bad Citadel team beating a Princeton team (mid-level Ivy that year) 38-7 in that infamous game where some cadets got into an altercation with some in the Princeton marching band.

    Princeton's recruiting class is #1 probably because they signed Brevin White, who BTW got a late offer from Alabama. The Ivies do get their fair share of players that would be considered blue-chippers in the FCS and G5, but top to bottom they just can't compete with the top 10 of the FCS.

    BTW..NDSU's recruiting class ranking is 134. That's laughably low considering they usually have more talent than just about all of the FCS and a significant number of G5 teams, too.

    Actually, no, not just the #1 ranked player....see this:


    "Princeton had 10 recruits listed among the group; the Tigers also led the FCS with four Top-25 recruits and two Top-10 recruits (#1 Brevin White and #8 Tola Banjoka)."

    and some of the other FBS schools that offered the other guy, #8 ranked Tola Banjoka, including Georgia, Missouri, North Carolina and Wisconsin:

    https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2018/tola-banjoko-181840#school-interests

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