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    Re: Worst FCS team to win the title?

    Quote Originally Posted by RootinFerDukes View Post
    Which team had the most losses but still won it? It’s probably that one.
    Looks like 8 teams had 3 losses and still won.

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    2008 Richmond
    2005 Appalachian State
    2002 Western Kentucky
    1998 Massachusetts
    1992 Marshall
    1991 Youngstown State
    1990 Georgia Southern
    1980 Boise State
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    Re: Worst FCS team to win the title?

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    WKU was in the Missouri Valley (Gateway back then.) How do I remember? First, their leaving the MVFC opened a spot for SDSU and, by extension, NDSU. Second, they were involved in a postgame fight involving a sledgehammer with Western Illinois which resulted in some efforts to improve sportsmanship in our new conference.

    Very small sample size, but EWU didn't look that awesome to me when they won their title.
    That season we beat the Hilltoppers at their place early in the season before losing the heartbreaker at Hanson Field in the playoffs.


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    Re: Worst FCS team to win the title?

    Might go with 1978 Florida A&M, simply because many of the teams that dominated the division in the early '80s were still either 1-A or D-2 and it was only a four team playoff field.

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    Re: Worst FCS team to win the title?

    1978 - Florida A&M 12-1
    1979 - Eastern Kentucky 11-2
    1980 - Boise State 10-3
    1981 - Idaho State 12-1
    1982 - Eastern Kentucky 13-0
    1983 - Southern Illinois 13-1
    1984 - Montana State 12-2
    1985 - Georgia Southern 13-2
    1986 - Georgia Southern 13-2
    1987 - Northeast Louisiana (now known as Louisiana-Monroe) 13-2
    1988 - Furman 13-2
    1989 - Georgia Southern 15-0
    1990 - Georgia Southern 12-3
    1991 - Youngstown State 12-3
    1992 - Marshall 12-3
    1993 - Youngstown State 10-2
    1994 - Youngstown State 11-0-1
    1995 - Montana 13-2
    1996 - Marshall 15-0
    1997 - Youngstown State 13-2
    1998 - Massachusetts 12-3
    1999 - Georgia Southern 13-2
    2000 - Georgia Southern 13-2
    2001 - Montana 15-1
    2002 - Western Kentucky 12-3
    2003 - Delaware 15-1
    2004 - James Madison 13-2
    2005 - Appalachian State 12-3
    2006 - Appalachian State 14-1
    2007 - Appalachian State 13-2
    2008 - Richmond 13-3
    2009 - Villanova 14-1
    2010 - Eastern Washington 13-2
    2011 - North Dakota State 14-1
    2012 - North Dakota State 14-1
    2013 - North Dakota State 15-0
    2014 - North Dakota State 15-1
    2015 - North Dakota State 13-2
    2016 - James Madison 14-1
    2017 - North Dakota State 14-1

    Now lets dive deeper into the 3 loss teams to see which seemed like the flukiest. We can examine who they lost to, how much they lost by, their season stats and probably even there performance before and after the single year's title.

    1980 - Boise State 10-3
    1990 - Georgia Southern 12-3
    1991 - Youngstown State 12-3
    1992 - Marshall 12-3
    1998 - Massachusetts 12-3
    2002 - Western Kentucky 12-3
    2005 - Appalachian State 12-3
    2008 - Richmond 13-3
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    Re: Worst FCS team to win the title?

    You can probably immediately knock out GSU, YSU, Marshall and App State due to their eventual dynasties they established. If we don't want to disregard a single season just because of eventual repeat championships, that's fine too.

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    Re: Worst FCS team to win the title?

    Quote Originally Posted by RootinFerDukes View Post
    You can probably immediately knock out GSU, YSU, Marshall and App State due to their eventual dynasties they established. If we don't want to disregard a single season just because of eventual repeat championships, that's fine too.
    You throw around the word dynasty pretty easily. GSU had a few good great years, then good ones going back and forth. 4 of them in 6 years and then you don't see them for another 8 to win the next 2. Ysu had 4 years in a row of going to the championship game(kind of a big deal), but did so with violations(kind of a bigger deal as it taints the rep). Marshall won two championships four years apart (no big deal). App State won three years in a row and didn't do much else besides that(some props since they were the first to win 3 in a row). Kind of hard to call any of these teams a dynasty since the new standard of the term has been reset by NDSU.

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    Re: Worst FCS team to win the title?

    Quote Originally Posted by TennBison View Post
    You throw around the word dynasty pretty easily. GSU had a few good great years, then good ones going back and forth. 4 of them in 6 years and then you don't see them for another 8 to win the next 2. Ysu had 4 years in a row of going to the championship game(kind of a big deal), but did so with violations(kind of a bigger deal as it taints the rep). Marshall won two championships four years apart (no big deal). App State won three years in a row and didn't do much else besides that(some props since they were the first to win 3 in a row). Kind of hard to call any of these teams a dynasty since the new standard of the term has been reset by NDSU.
    Well, if Georgia Southern wasn't an FCS dynasty, nobody was.
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    Re: Worst FCS team to win the title?

    Quote Originally Posted by TennBison View Post
    You throw around the word dynasty pretty easily. GSU had a few good great years, then good ones going back and forth. 4 of them in 6 years and then you don't see them for another 8 to win the next 2. Ysu had 4 years in a row of going to the championship game(kind of a big deal), but did so with violations(kind of a bigger deal as it taints the rep). Marshall won two championships four years apart (no big deal). App State won three years in a row and didn't do much else besides that(some props since they were the first to win 3 in a row). Kind of hard to call any of these teams a dynasty since the new standard of the term has been reset by NDSU.
    And people wonder why some don't bother to post here anymore with logic like this thrown around.

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    Re: Worst FCS team to win the title?

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    I've never watched them on tape, but I suspect that Northeast Louisiana team in 1987 wasn't great as well.
    Everyone knows Louisiana Monroe now as the smallest budgeted school in IA that tries to recruit to a school in the middle of nowhere (LA Tech is literally 7 miles away). But for about a 5-7 year stretch NLU (Northeast Louisiana University) was a pretty big power in IAA and 1987 falls in that range. NLU went 13-2 in their title year.

    ULM 1987 schedule

    at LA Tech W 44-7
    at Texas State W 44-7
    Nicholls State W 26-14
    Northwestern State W 33-31
    at Lamar L 28-48
    Georgia Southern W 26-17
    at USL (now ULL) L 7-17
    McNeese State W 37-10
    at Southern Miss W 34-24
    Arkansas State W 31-21
    North Texas W 24-23
    North Texas Playoff W 30-9
    Eastern Kentucky Playoff 33-32
    Northern Iowa Playoff 44-41
    Marshall (NC Pocatello ID) 43-42

    NLU didn't beat one IA team in 1987, they beat 3 in LA Tech, Arkansas State and Southern Miss.
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    Worst FCS team to win the title?

    We’re those three sun belt/cusa teams classified as I-A at the time? I think Arkansas state and LA tech used to be I-AA.

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