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    2017 PL Football Budgets Fordham's Budget Increased $1 Million Year-over-Year

    The US Dept. of Ed published the latest athletic budget data earlier this week. Listed below are the football budgets for the PL schools.
    Fordham's football budget increased a whopping $1 million year-over-year (from $6,003,614 to $7,060,178). Fordham's overall athletic budget increased by $2.5 million (from $30.6 million to $33.1 million).
    When I first started tracking Fordham's athletic budget a few years before Fr. McShane was named university president, the University's overall athletic budget was a little over $3 million. There have been massive yearly budget increases under McShane's leadership, particularly the athletic scholarship budget (now at $14 million).

    Fordham $7,060,178
    Lafayette $6,581,062
    Holy Cross $6,162,749
    Colgate $5,899,143
    Bucknell $5,672,257
    Lehigh $5,301,592
    Georgetown $2,117,506
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    Re: 2017 PL Football Budgets Fordham's Budget Increases Over $1 Million Year-over-Y

    A major reason for Fordham's robust budget is the cost of doing business in NYC. It really doesn't reflect their overall commitment to on the field performance. The men's bball program is a mess, Rose Hill Gym is a dump and by most accounts the football facilities are seriously lacking. Fordham still needs to make much needed capital improvements to their infrastructure if they want any meaningful ROI.....

    Lehigh's budget does not surprise me. It's been talked about recently how the football program is run on nickels and dimes....
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    Re: 2017 PL Football Budgets Fordham's Budget Increases Over $1 Million Year-over-Y

    Quote Originally Posted by Go Lehigh TU owl View Post
    A major reason for Fordham's robust budget is the cost of doing business in NYC. It really doesn't reflect their overall commitment to on the field performance. The men's bball program is a mess, Rose Hill Gym is a dump and by most accounts the football facilities are seriously lacking. Fordham still needs to make much needed capital improvements to their infrastructure if they want any meaningful ROI.....

    Lehigh's budget does not surprise me. It's been talked about recently how the football program is run on nickels and dimes....
    Caveat for comparing numbers is the varying accounting schemes used by schools in addition to the CODB. That sais I agree owl Lehigh budget is being squeezed hard. The substantial increase in merit aid to women's sport( which is fine by me) without a commensurate increase in AD budget causes tightening of the belts in a number of sports not just football. The Football partnership( which all fans should contribute to) provides some relief for Coen.

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    Re: 2017 PL Football Budgets Fordham's Budget Increases Over $1 Million Year-over-Y

    Quote Originally Posted by Go Lehigh TU owl View Post
    A major reason for Fordham's robust budget is the cost of doing business in NYC. It really doesn't reflect their overall commitment to on the field performance. The men's bball program is a mess, Rose Hill Gym is a dump and by most accounts the football facilities are seriously lacking. Fordham still needs to make much needed capital improvements to their infrastructure if they want any meaningful ROI.....

    Lehigh's budget does not surprise me. It's been talked about recently how the football program is run on nickels and dimes....
    If you say Lehigh runs its football program on nickels and dimes, then what does Georgetown spend on football, grains of sand and tiny little pebbles?

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    Re: 2017 PL Football Budgets Fordham's Budget Increases Over $1 Million Year-over-Y

    Quote Originally Posted by TennBison View Post
    If you say Lehigh runs its football program on nickels and dimes, then what does Georgetown spend on football, grains of sand and tiny little pebbles?
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    Re: 2017 PL Football Budgets Fordham's Budget Increases Over $1 Million Year-over-Y

    Quote Originally Posted by ramMan View Post
    The US Dept. of Ed published the latest athletic budget data earlier this week. Listed below are the football budgets for the PL schools.
    Fordham's football budget increased a whopping $1 million year-over-year (from $6,003,614 to $7,060,178). Fordham's overall athletic budget increased by $2.5 million (from $30.6 million to $33.1 million).
    When I first started tracking Fordham's athletic budget a few years before Fr. McShane was named university president, the University's overall athletic budget was a little over $3 million. There have been massive yearly increases under McShane's leadership, particularly the athletic scholarship budget (now at $14 million).

    Fordham $7,060,178
    Lafayette $6,581,062
    Holy Cross $6,162,749
    Colgate $5,899,143
    Bucknell $5,672,257
    Lehigh $5,301,592
    Georgetown $2,117,506
    Sheesh, PL football budgets are almost double, on average than the budgets in the MEAC.

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    Re: 2017 PL Football Budgets Fordham's Budget Increased $1 Million Year-over-Year

    Quote Originally Posted by ramMan View Post
    The US Dept. of Ed published the latest athletic budget data earlier this week. Listed below are the football budgets for the PL schools. Fordham's football budget increased a whopping $1 million year-over-year (from $6,003,614 to $7,060,178). Fordham's overall athletic budget increased by $2.5 million (from $30.6 million to $33.1 million). When I first started tracking Fordham's athletic budget a few years before Fr. McShane was named university president, the University's overall athletic budget was a little over $3 million. There have been massive yearly budget increases under McShane's leadership, particularly the athletic scholarship budget (now at $14 million).

    Nice find, ramMan! Guessing it was around 1999/2000 when the overall athletic budget was just over $3M. Also guessing football was coming in at around $800,000 back then. And even that's a far cry from 1978 when the football budget was $125,000 and especially 1979, when it dipped back to $64,000, after the school decided to stay in the D-III fold.

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    Re: 2017 PL Football Budgets Fordham's Budget Increases Over $1 Million Year-over-Y

    Colgate looks about right - and it is a bit less expensive to do business in Central New York.

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    Re: 2017 PL Football Budgets Fordham's Budget Increases Over $1 Million Year-over-Y

    I think Goodman is a great place to watch a football game - like the old Rutgers Stadium, it is set in a natural ravine with fine sight lines.

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    Re: 2017 PL Football Budgets Fordham's Budget Increased $1 Million Year-over-Y

    Quote Originally Posted by Go Lehigh TU owl View Post
    A major reason for Fordham's robust budget is the cost of doing business in NYC. It really doesn't reflect their overall commitment to on the field performance. The men's bball program is a mess, Rose Hill Gym is a dump and by most accounts the football facilities are seriously lacking. Fordham still needs to make much needed capital improvements to their infrastructure if they want any meaningful ROI.....

    Lehigh's budget does not surprise me. It's been talked about recently how the football program is run on nickels and dimes....
    True, Fordham's football facilities are "seriously lacking," but is Lehigh's Goodman Stadium, which is located four miles (!) from Lehigh's campus and whose stands are set back far from the field, much better? Whatever happened to the plan to move the press box to the visitors' side of the stadium and convert the current press box to luxury suites? Does the stadium have a video board? Many high schools now have them. And if it's true that Lehigh's football program is run on "nickels and dimes," Goodman won't be getting a facelift anytime soon.

    True, also, that Fordham's men's basketball program is a "mess," but Fordham's other varsity teams are very competitive, and some are excelling (e.g., men's soccer reached the Elite 8 last season, softball has earned NCAA berths in seven of the past eight years, women's basketball has played in postseason tournaments in four of the past five years, etc.). Getting back to men's basketball, IMO, Coach Neubauer is Fordham's best in-game coach since joining the A-10, and his recruiting has picked up significantly this year. I'm confident he'll turn the program around, maybe as soon as next year.

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