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    Re: Vandal 2018 Schedule

    Based on 2017 results, Idaho was rated at 139 according to Massey. On nothing else, the Vandals would have finished sixth. Here are the results of the Big Sky:

    60 Weber St 11-30.786 33.7 17.6 5-10.833 38.3 14.7 6-20.750 30.3 19.8 9-10.900 32.7 16.3
    86 Southern Utah 9-30.750 33.6 28.0 5-10.833 33.0 22.3 4-20.667 34.2 33.7 7-20.778 34.1 24.9
    99 E Washington 7-40.636 34.5 33.4 3-20.600 35.0 30.2 4-20.667 34.0 36.0 6-20.750 37.5 31.3
    134 CS Sacramento 7-40.636 37.6 29.7 5-10.833 46.2 28.2 2-30.400 27.4 31.6 6-30.667 39.1 30.8
    138 Montana 7-40.636 35.0 29.0 5-10.833 40.7 20.0 2-30.400 28.2 39.8 5-30.625 34.6 28.8
    141 Northern Arizona 7-50.583 30.3 29.7 5-20.714 33.4 28.4 2-30.400 25.8 31.4 6-20.750 34.0 24.9
    150 Montana St 5-60.455 25.3 25.0 3-30.500 24.5 21.8 2-30.400 26.2 28.8 5-30.625 29.6 24.6
    161 UC Davis 5-60.455 33.6 32.2 3-20.600 35.8 29.4 2-40.333 31.8 34.5 4-50.444 35.3 34.3
    207 North Dakota 3-80.273 25.2 34.6 2-30.400 28.8 28.4 1-50.167 22.2 39.8 2-60.250 27.5 37.4
    214 Idaho St 4-70.364 28.1 35.5 3-20.600 36.4 33.0 1-50.167 21.2 37.7 2-60.250 28.6 38.3
    229 N Colorado 3-70.300 27.8 34.1 3-20.600 32.8 22.0 0-50.000 22.8 46.2 2-60.250 27.0 35.8
    262 Cal Poly 1-100.091 18.5 32.0 1-40.200 15.2 28.4 0-60.000 21.2 35.0 1-70.125 17.3 31.6
    307 Portland St 0-110.000 23.3 43.0 0-50.000 21.0 47.0 0-60.000 25.2 39.7 0-90.000 24.2 46.4

    https://www.masseyratings.com/team.php?t=3415&s=295489
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    Re: Vandal 2018 Schedule

    If we use the Sagarin model, Idaho was ranked 133 and would have been even further down the rankings in the Big Sky.

    21 BIG SKY (AA)= 51.98 50.97
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    HOME ADVANTAGE= [ 3.19] [ 4.00] [ 2.39]
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    59 Weber State AA = 71.16 11 3 58.35( 109) 0 0 | 0 1 72.95( 47) 67.64( 70)
    88 Southern Utah AA = 64.39 9 3 56.22( 127) 0 0 | 0 0 66.66( 80) 60.35( 100)
    101 Eastern Washington AA = 61.18 7 4 57.76( 113) 0 0 | 0 1 64.35( 87) 56.26( 118)
    118 Sacramento State AA = 57.57 7 4 49.48( 171) 0 0 | 0 0 57.29( 115) 55.89( 122)
    123 Northern Arizona AA = 56.50 7 5 53.72( 144) 0 0 | 0 0 57.29( 114) 53.76( 134)
    124 Montana State AA = 56.21 5 6 57.13( 116) 0 0 | 0 1 56.06( 122) 54.40( 127)
    125 Montana AA = 55.79 7 4 47.00( 180) 0 0 | 0 1 55.57( 125) 54.05( 131)
    130 UC Davis AA = 54.21 5 6 53.82( 142) 0 0 | 0 0 52.94( 136) 53.52( 135)
    172 North Dakota AA = 45.30 3 8 55.78( 130) 0 0 | 0 0 43.53( 171) 45.10( 167)

    188 Northern Colorado AA = 41.69 3 7 54.35( 141) 0 0 | 0 0 39.04( 191) 42.29( 174)
    191 Idaho State AA = 40.89 4 7 52.01( 156) 0 0 | 0 0 38.64( 192) 41.13( 178)
    220 Cal Poly-SLO AA = 31.56 1 10 51.87( 158) 0 0 | 0 0 19.55( 240) 37.36( 197)
    235 Portland State AA = 26.14 0 11 51.69( 161) 0 0 | 0 0 10.44( 251) 32.28( 212)
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    Re: Vandal 2018 Schedule

    Quote Originally Posted by VandalBasher View Post
    I believe we are eligible in 2018. The rule, as I understand it, is the transition between FCS and FBS only affects the move up and not the other way. My guess is the rule book will catch up with this unprecedented move. There just is no rule in place at this time.

    Others with factual info, please chime in. I don't have any other info at this time.
    I could see the NCAA making you wait under the theory that the players you signed as FBS members would be better than FCS players.




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    Re: Vandal 2018 Schedule

    Pretty sure UND is not playing Idaho. The UND website has them playing at MSU on Nov 3rd.

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    Re: Vandal 2018 Schedule

    Quote Originally Posted by katss07 View Post
    Huh, Idaho being eligible makes things very interesting. I’m sure most Idaho fans know how the FCS Playoffs work, so how far do you think you guys could potentially go? I’m sure the Vandals will compete for the Big Sky (just based on last year’s talent)
    Um....no.

    They will be in the upper half but losing all the senior laden skill players and QB will hinder them. Even with the players they had last year they would struggle to be in the top 3. The Vandal defense will be in good shape they have 3 senior LBs back and their younger players in the secondary got a lot of playing time last year. Like I said they should be able to be in the top half of the BSC.
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    Re: Vandal 2018 Schedule

    It will be interesting how this season will play out. I look forward to seeing you at the tailgate in November.
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    Re: Vandal 2018 Schedule

    Quote Originally Posted by ALPHAGRIZ1 View Post
    Um....no.

    They will be in the upper half but losing all the senior laden skill players and QB will hinder them. Even with the players they had last year they would struggle to be in the top 3. The Vandal defense will be in good shape they have 3 senior LBs back and their younger players in the secondary got a lot of playing time last year. Like I said they should be able to be in the top half of the BSC.
    ESPN has our 2017 roster with 105 players on it with only 14 seniors departing and 47 freshman that will be ready to play this next year as sophomores. It isn't so much loss of players than development of players.

    http://www.espn.com/college-football...nce/order/true

    1 Alfonso Onunwor WR 6-1 195 SR Cleveland, OH
    8 Armond Hawkins DB 5-10 203 SR Rancho Cucamonga, CA
    8 Jacob Sannon WR 5-11 193 SR Bradenton, FL
    10 Matt Linehan QB 6-3 239 SR Orchard Lake, MI
    18 Kahshan Greene DB 5-10 170 SR East Palo Alto, CA
    22 Leonard Hazewood LB 6-4 248 SR Sacramento, CA
    23 Aaron Duckworth RB 5-8 203 SR Orange Park, FL
    26 Reuben Mwehla WR 5-10 174 SR Bellevue, WA
    45 Josh Herman FB 6-1 254 SR Tulsa, OK
    76 Jordan Rose OL 6-6 325 SR Spokane, WA
    82 Will Schmidt DL 6-3 230 SR Seattle, WA
    90 Zach Cable DL 6-3 258 SR Renton, WA
    93 Arie Anderson DL 6-1 302 SR Millbrook, AL
    97 Aikeem Coleman DL 6-3 275 SR Hattiesburg, MS

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    Re: Vandal 2018 Schedule

    This guy did a pretty good write up on your team, that's where I got the info from.

    http://maroonblood.com/forum/main-fo...-idaho-vandals

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    Re: Vandal 2018 Schedule

    Quote Originally Posted by VandalBasher View Post
    We have been playing FBS football for years under the 85 scholarships. I am certain we will have the total down to the necessary 63.

    As for coaches, I am uninformed about the rules.
    You guys shouldn't have much trouble with the schollies because I've posted here a few times over the last few years you were operating at 75 or slightly less most of the time from what I remember.
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    I could see the NCAA making you wait under the theory that the players you signed as FBS members would be better than FCS players.




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