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    Re: Patriot League 2018 - way way way to early

    Quote Originally Posted by Gate83 View Post
    Aren't you the guy who thinks the PL needs to do better OOC? And you're running away from Monmouth after they've "repetitively" beaten you all of 3 times in a row? Seems to me you should right that wrong rather than looking for a tastier cupcake...
    Seriously, what a ridiculous train of thought.


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    Re: Patriot League 2018 - way way way to early

    Quote Originally Posted by UNHWildcat18 View Post
    Seriously, what a ridiculous train of thought.
    You are both missing owl's point. His objection in this regard is not the level of competition but the repetitiveness of Lehigh"s OOC schedule. Rather than playing MU every year it would be better to schedule another Big South or SoCon team not replace it with lower level competition.

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    Re: Patriot League 2018 - way way way to early

    Quote Originally Posted by RichH2 View Post
    You are both missing owl's point. His objection in this regard is not the level of competition but the repetitiveness of Lehigh"s OOC schedule. Rather than playing MU every year it would be better to schedule another Big South or SoCon team not replace it with lower level competition.
    I'm sure he wouldn't be saying it had they won the last 3. Schedules do change but if you schedule a long term home and home with teams what are you gonna do? I don't disagree with changing up OOC of course I'd like to see UNH play other teams, but it wouldn't be because a team that I view as "lower" than us is currently beating us for 3 straight years. Lehigh needs a lot of OOC games and Monmouth playing in the big south needs a closer to NJ game. Maybe Lehigh can schedule Marist in the next few years lol.

    P.S. Also he literally stated not playing them until they would be sure they would UNI them......Go ahead and schedule another team from further away to change things up, but if your admin schedules a frequent close OOC game you better put up or shut up. Monmouth is going to basically be a 8th member for the foreseeable future of the PL
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    Re: Patriot League 2018 - way way way to early

    Quote Originally Posted by UNHWildcat18 View Post
    I'm sure he wouldn't be saying it had they won the last 3. Schedules do change but if you schedule a long term home and home with teams what are you gonna do? I don't disagree with changing up OOC of course I'd like to see UNH play other teams, but it wouldn't be because a team that I view as "lower" than us is currently beating us for 3 straight years. Lehigh needs a lot of OOC games and Monmouth playing in the big south needs a closer to NJ game. Maybe Lehigh can schedule Marist in the next few years lol.

    P.S. Also he literally stated not playing them until they would be sure they would UNI them......Go ahead and schedule another team from further away to change things up, but if your admin schedules a frequent close OOC game you better put up or shut up. Monmouth is going to basically be a 7th member for the foreseeable future of the PL
    I think 18 has it right, Monmouth is a short ride, in our recruiting area and also needs OOC games, when you have 5 OOC open dates you gotta take what is reasonably available, now I agree that more variety in the OOC schedule would be nice, there is not as many options as one would think given that Andy does not like to travel, if we continue with 2 or 3 Ivies (3 Ivies getting harder to get) and 2 or 3 "locals" from 2 or 3 different conferences then that pretty much leaves a NEC, a CAA, and/or a Big South with maybe a FBS every so often

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    Re: Patriot League 2018 - way way way to early

    Quote Originally Posted by RichH2 View Post
    You are both missing owl's point. His objection in this regard is not the level of competition but the repetitiveness of Lehigh"s OOC schedule. Rather than playing MU every year it would be better to schedule another Big South or SoCon team not replace it with lower level competition.
    Actually, my point was to take a longer view. 8 games in 20 years isn't an overload, and to look elsewhere just because you're on a short term losing streak is weak. Monmouth is improving, convenient for your fan base, in a prime recruiting area... and you'd rather play Kennesaw State or Gardner Webb just for variety? It would be a better argument if you were 8-0 vs. Monmouth...

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    Re: Patriot League 2018 - way way way to early

    Quote Originally Posted by BucBisonAtLarge View Post
    Bucknell released its 2018 schedule. Notice: No Marist. The only surprise here is that Sacred Heart returns to Lewisburg for a second consecutive appearance.

    Sept. 1: William & Mary

    Sept. 8: Sacred Heart
    Sept. 15: at Penn
    Sept. 22: at Villanova
    Sept. 29: at Holy Cross*
    Oct. 6: Colgate*
    Oct. 13: at Monmouth
    Oct. 20: Lafayette* (Homecoming)
    Nov. 3: at Lehigh*
    Nov. 10: at Georgetown*
    Nov. 17: Fordham*

    Would be looking forward to visiting Lewisburg for the opener, but where the heck do you stay around there? Options look really limited.
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    Re: Patriot League 2018 - way way way to early

    Quote Originally Posted by UNHWildcat18 View Post
    I'm sure he wouldn't be saying it had they won the last 3. Schedules do change but if you schedule a long term home and home with teams what are you gonna do? I don't disagree with changing up OOC of course I'd like to see UNH play other teams, but it wouldn't be because a team that I view as "lower" than us is currently beating us for 3 straight years. Lehigh needs a lot of OOC games and Monmouth playing in the big south needs a closer to NJ game. Maybe Lehigh can schedule Marist in the next few years lol.

    P.S. Also he literally stated not playing them until they would be sure they would UNI them......Go ahead and schedule another team from further away to change things up, but if your admin schedules a frequent close OOC game you better put up or shut up. Monmouth is going to basically be a 8th member for the foreseeable future of the PL

    Sarcasm really doesn't convey very well on message boards. But either way, Lehigh and the rest of the PL need to perform better in the OOC if the conference is going remain viable nationally. Monmouth is the perfect example of a school trending up (even modestly) while the Patriot League and a school, Lehigh, remains stagnant or regresses.

    I would absolutely love Lehigh to get more adventurous with their OOC scheduling rather than play the closest schools they can find. Sure Monmouth is close geographically but it doesn't mean you have to play them on a regular basis. When you play the same teams over and over in the OOC they basically become extended conference games in a way. Wagner is nearly the same distance and Lehigh had never played them iirc until this year. And Lehigh sucked so bad this year they couldn't beat them!

    What's funny is I saw Monmouth play Montana State when I was living in Bozeman. I know Lehigh would never venture out to the Gallatin Valley.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tribe4SF View Post
    Would be looking forward to visiting Lewisburg for the opener, but where the heck do you stay around there? Options look really limited.
    The lone Bucknell fan here may have a better suggestion in town, but your options are actually pretty decent for being in the middle of nowhere.

    If you're looking to stay in a hotel, there are several options just 3 miles north of campus along Rt. 15: Radisson, Best Western, and Hampton Inn. The Country Cupboard has a good bakery, as well as a restaurant/buffet, and is in the middle of all three. There are plenty of other hotels along 15 between Selinsgrove and Lewisburg, as well. I stayed at the Best Western years ago when it was a family-run place. It was simple, but nice and clean, and just a short walk away from the Country Cupboard. There's also a sports bar right next door.
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    Re: Patriot League 2018 - way way way to early

    Quote Originally Posted by Go Lehigh TU owl View Post
    Sarcasm really doesn't convey very well on message boards. But either way, Lehigh and the rest of the PL need to perform better in the OOC if the conference is going remain viable nationally. Monmouth is the perfect example of a school trending up (even modestly) while the Patriot League and a school, Lehigh, remains stagnant or regresses.

    I would absolutely love Lehigh to get more adventurous with their OOC scheduling rather than play the closest schools they can find. Sure Monmouth is close geographically but it doesn't mean you have to play them on a regular basis. When you play the same teams over and over in the OOC they basically become extended conference games in a way. Wagner is nearly the same distance and Lehigh had never played them iirc until this year. And Lehigh sucked so bad this year they couldn't beat them!

    What's funny is I saw Monmouth play Montana State when I was living in Bozeman. I know Lehigh would never venture out to the Gallatin Valley.
    funny you should mention Wagner, that game was panned by many fans as a dumb match up, oh well we just like to complain I guess

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    Re: Patriot League 2018 - way way way to early

    Quote Originally Posted by Go Lehigh TU owl View Post
    Sarcasm really doesn't convey very well on message boards. But either way, Lehigh and the rest of the PL need to perform better in the OOC if the conference is going remain viable nationally. Monmouth is the perfect example of a school trending up (even modestly) while the Patriot League and a school, Lehigh, remains stagnant or regresses.
    The PL has no plan. There are schools going in four or five different directions without an awareness that some of these teams are in high gear to nowhere.
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