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    Re: Patriot League 2018 - way way way to early

    Some of the PL schools have Equestrian as well - Lafayette comes to mind, and Colgate has it at least as a club sport.

    Fordham has Sailing.

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    Re: Patriot League 2018 - way way way to early

    Quote Originally Posted by Go...gate View Post
    Some of the PL schools have Equestrian as well - Lafayette comes to mind, and Colgate has it at least as a club sport.

    Fordham has Sailing.
    Lafayette, equestrian? It's news to me. The only thing that even looked like a horse that I ever remember seeing on College Hill was one of my senior year dates.

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    Re: Patriot League 2018 - way way way to early

    Quote Originally Posted by carney2 View Post
    It may be a problem, but certainly isn't THE problem. Remember, the NCAA has a minimum number of sports that must be offered to remain in the D-I classification. I believe the number is 16. The gigantic University of Texas, for instance, doesn't mess around. They offer exactly the minimum number required. They're a football school and they know it. It has been pointed out that Lafayette wouldn't save much money by eliminating sports such as golf, tennis, swimming, volleyball, and the like. Absolutely true, but it might allow them to focus on a few where results might boost the institution. I give them a lot of crap on this site, but at some level you have to admire a school like Bucknell which says "We focus on basketball and the other sports merely fill out the calendar." Holy Cross had a similar mindset a decade or so ago, but seems to have lost their way. Every athletic department in the Patriot League should give this some thought. "What should be our athletic priorities?" They won't, of course.
    Bucknell has routinely competed for the Presidents' Cup, having won most of them since the inception of the Patriot League, always a challenge in a league with the two academies. The facilities are continuously being upgraded. This year alone the new wrestling training/sports medicine facility has opened and new grandstands for baseball (and softball?) will be christened when this year's glacier recedes. The swimming, diving and water polo facilities host the PIAA championships annually and have hosted the NCAA WP Championships. Men's WP played in the NCAA tourney last year. The last non-performing coach that hung around too long, women's hoops, was sacked. Bucknell did their due diligence and brought in an ace replacement, with lots of subsequent success. I don't see a comparison of the PL performance anything akin to Holy Cross or Lafayette, but comparable to Lehigh and Colgate, except for football. Boston University arrived with a lot more scholarships in the olympic sports, but have been cutting back as students graduate. Loyola and American are both near the D1 minimum for sports (17, 14). Loyola is here to ensure the lacrosse relevance. AU? Their women's programs can be great- volleyball is occasionally ranked and hoops has excelled this year. Does anyone in DC even notice?

    As to the lag in football, I would defer to a better analysis by Bison137 (the people's choice for AD). From my perch, 1400 miles away to the southwest, the size of the fiscal commitment is the challenge. Bison football lacks a wide constituency in town, on campus and in the alumni body. Football alumni themselves are the program's biggest supporters. The big football years were the early 60's and those alums are well into retirement and less and less active. Bucknell basketball has cultivated over many years a fan base in the local community, something football has found elusive. The biggest football crowd I ever saw in Christy was a Lewisburg/Milton high-school game. Unlocking that sort of local passion would be great but has not happened in the last few decades. That said, I believe the commitment to PL football is there, like the rest of the programs.

    Is football like lacrosse? This concern for winning national championships across the board seems specious, apart from lacrosse. (Colgate did have a nice run in men's soccer this year.) Look at the number of PL athletes with cut times for nationals in swimming or track. Individual athletes will have the opportunity for that level of competition (with good coaching) but they all get a PL-level education. Maybe it is the Bucknellian in me, but that seems like the right size.
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    Bucknell dominated Colgate to capture another PL Tournament Title. The Bison do have one helluva a bball program relative to the rest of the PL!
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    That certainly was a rout. Colgate did have a fine season, though, finishing with the most wins in program history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gater View Post
    For Colgate, Holland will be back next year as will everyone who ran the ball. Everyone who threw the ball will be back. The top six receivers will be back. 23 of the top 26 tacklers will be back (the 5th, 11th, and 19th leading tacklers graduate). TJ Holl (who was leading the country in tackles when he went out in the fourth game) comes back. All of the specialists are back. Max Hartzman (starting center) comes back from injury as do two other offensive line starters and a probable OL starter who was hurt in camp.

    On paper, Colgate should be better. Having four home games with New Hampshire, Furman, William and Mary, Army (and half of the PL) on the road will certainly reveal how much better.
    Agreed. Gate is the only squad with no major holes to fill.
    Lehigh may challenge if a D is found somewhere. The key may be how well these teams survive their OOC games.

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    Re: Patriot League 2018 - way way way to early

    A quick check of the game notes from week 12 suggests the following returnees by school:

    Colgate: 8 offense, 9 defense
    Lehigh: 8 offense, 8 defense
    Bucknell: 8 offense, 5 defense
    Fordham: 6 offense, 6 defense
    Lafayette: 5 offense, 5 defense
    Holy Cross: 3 offense, 6 defense
    Georgetown: 5 offense, 6 defense

    That's the likely finish in 2018.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RichH2 View Post
    Agreed. Gate is the only squad with no major holes to fill.
    Lehigh may challenge if a D is found somewhere. The key may be how well these teams survive their OOC games.
    With numbers so low for spring practice it's hard to imagine much of anything shaking out heading into fall camp. I still don't see personnel on defense that's capable of really stepping up and improving the unit. Combine that with unproven/suspect coaching and it's hard to be optimistic at this point.

    When does spring practice officially start for Lehigh?
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    Re: Patriot League 2018 - way way way to early

    Quote Originally Posted by DFW HOYA View Post
    A quick check of the game notes from week 12 suggests the following returnees by school:

    Colgate: 8 offense, 9 defense
    Lehigh: 8 offense, 8 defense
    Bucknell: 8 offense, 5 defense
    Fordham: 6 offense, 6 defense
    Lafayette: 5 offense, 5 defense
    Holy Cross: 3 offense, 6 defense
    Georgetown: 5 offense, 6 defense

    That's the likely finish in 2018.
    I don't see the Bison finishing 3rd. They suffered some key graduation losses and their QB play continues to be below average.

    I think over the course of the last 15-20 years Fordham and Lehigh have consistently had the most talent 1-30ish on their rosters. If the new coaching staff can change the culture a bit in the Bronx I expect the Rams to bounce back quickly. Lafayette's defense will be legit but their QB situation is dicey as is their OL and ground game. Coaching staff continuity could also be an issue in Easton. Holy Cross is basically starting with an entirely clean slate coaching and personnel wise (relatively speaking). Given that and an imposing schedule the Crusaders will be lucky to win 3 games imo.

    Even with a horrific defense Lehigh still seems firmly entrenched as 'Gate's main challenger and vice-versa.
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    Re: Patriot League 2018 - way way way to early

    Quote Originally Posted by RichH2 View Post
    Lehigh may challenge if a D is found somewhere. The key may be how well these teams survive their OOC games.
    Unfortunately, it looks like most of last year’s D is returning


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