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    Re: AGS Poll Results - WEEK 11 - 11/13/2017

    Quote Originally Posted by Professor Chaos View Post
    What makes them (WCU I mean) any better than Illinois St? I looked back and saw you had ISUr ranked #24 last week and they took your #4 team to OT on the road with their backup QB.

    I'd put every one of those teams you have listed in front of WCU right now. A 4 point home win over Samford doesn't prop them up enough to sustain a 2 point home loss to Mercer.



    Full disclosure this is what I had:

    1: James Madison Dukes
    2: North Dakota State Bison
    3: Central Arkansas Bears
    4: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
    5: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
    6: Sam Houston State Bearkats
    7: Southern Utah Thunderbirds
    8: Wofford Terriers
    9: Western Illinois Leathernecks
    10: Elon Phoenix
    11: Weber State Wildcats
    12: Stony Brook Seawolves
    13: Northern Iowa Panthers
    14: South Dakota Coyotes
    15: Furman Paladins
    16: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
    17: Samford Bulldogs
    18: New Hampshire Wildcats
    19: North Carolina A&T Aggies
    20: Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
    21: Illinois State Redbirds
    22: Montana Grizzlies
    23: Kennesaw State Owls
    24: Monmouth Hawks
    25: Nicholls State Colonels
    So outside WCU and ISUr we agree on the position of the rest give or take a couple of spots here and there. At this point, it could be easily argued that we just see it slightly different. Remember, they took your "seeded" team in Wofford on the road, to OT and shot themselves in the foot. I would argue that, while maybe WCU should switch spots with NAU, it is not out the ballpark to still have WCU around the T20 spot, and I have them at 18 instead. I get that ISUr is playing with a back-up QB but they are way too hot and cold. Curbstompped by NAU and 31 unanswered points against WIU at home and then shows up against SDSU and struggles with a bad ISUb team. I am going to hold back on them unless they can upset NDSU. That is just me though.
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    Re: AGS Poll Results - WEEK 11 - 11/13/2017

    Quote Originally Posted by TheKingpin28 View Post
    So outside WCU and ISUr we agree on the position of the rest give or take a couple of spots here and there. At this point, it could be easily argued that we just see it slightly different. Remember, they took your "seeded" team in Wofford on the road, to OT and shot themselves in the foot. I would argue that, while maybe WCU should switch spots with NAU, it is not out the ballpark to still have WCU around the T20 spot, and I have them at 18 instead. I get that ISUr is playing with a back-up QB but they are way too hot and cold. Curbstompped by NAU and 31 unanswered points against WIU at home and then shows up against SDSU and struggles with a bad ISUb team. I am going to hold back on them unless they can upset NDSU. That is just me though.
    I don't dispute that Illinois St is a flawed team that is very streaky. I just found it odd that they dropped 250 points from last week (which took them from #21 to #26) after giving SDSU all they could handle and then some in a very tough situation. Not trying to pick on you specifically there because your poll ballot only accounted for 2 of those 250 points but it sure seems like quite a few people "slot voted" them.

    I'll agree to disagree on WCU.
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    Re: AGS Poll Results - WEEK 11 - 11/13/2017

    JMU 22 straight wins, deserve the respect of all 1st place votes without question until someone beats them

    The one for NDSU had to be a Homer vote, they got their butts wooped by SDSU just a little over a week ago

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    Re: AGS Poll Results - WEEK 11 - 11/13/2017

    Quote Originally Posted by WCU-Cats! View Post
    JMU 22 straight wins, deserve the respect of all 1st place votes without question until someone beats them

    The one for NDSU had to be a Homer vote, they got their butts wooped by SDSU just a little over a week ago
    Can't be. If someone who votes for their own team and is the only voter for the #1 seed, then it is immediately tossed. A non-NDSU fan voted for them.
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    Re: AGS Poll Results - WEEK 11 - 11/13/2017

    What does the playoff committee use for seeding playoff teams?

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    Re: AGS Poll Results - WEEK 11 - 11/13/2017

    Quote Originally Posted by WCU-Cats! View Post
    JMU 22 straight wins, deserve the respect of all 1st place votes without question until someone beats them

    The one for NDSU had to be a Homer vote, they got their butts wooped by SDSU just a little over a week ago
    Highly unlikely
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    Re: AGS Poll Results - WEEK 11 - 11/13/2017

    Quote Originally Posted by Professor Chaos View Post
    I don't dispute that Illinois St is a flawed team that is very streaky. I just found it odd that they dropped 250 points from last week (which took them from #21 to #26) after giving SDSU all they could handle and then some in a very tough situation. Not trying to pick on you specifically there because your poll ballot only accounted for 2 of those 250 points but it sure seems like quite a few people "slot voted" them.

    I'll agree to disagree on WCU.
    The problem is, there are currently, IMO, 28 teams worthy of a vote and only 25 spots.

    Just so you can see I did not slot vote, this is where I had them last week:

    Week 10:

    1: James Madison Dukes
    2: Central Arkansas Bears
    3: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
    4: North Dakota State Bison
    5: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
    6: Sam Houston State Bearkats
    7: Elon Phoenix
    8: Southern Utah Thunderbirds
    9: South Dakota Coyotes
    10: Western Illinois Leathernecks
    11: Wofford Terriers
    12: Stony Brook Seawolves
    13: Weber State Wildcats
    14: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
    15: Western Carolina Catamounts
    16: Northern Iowa Panthers
    17: Samford Bulldogs
    18: Furman Paladins
    19: North Carolina A&T Aggies
    20: Monmouth Hawks
    21: Montana Grizzlies
    22: Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
    23: Nicholls State Colonels
    24: Illinois State Redbirds
    25:
    Kennesaw State Owls
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    Re: AGS Poll Results - WEEK 11 - 11/13/2017

    Quote Originally Posted by TheKingpin28 View Post
    Week 6:

    1: North Dakota State Bison
    2: James Madison Dukes
    3: South Dakota Coyotes
    4: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
    5: Youngstown State Penguins
    6: Weber State Wildcats
    7: Elon Phoenix
    8: Central Arkansas Bears
    9: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
    10: Wofford Terriers
    11: Western Illinois Leathernecks
    12: Sam Houston State Bearkats
    13: Richmond Spiders
    14: Villanova Wildcats
    15: Eastern Washington Eagles
    16: Western Carolina Catamounts
    17: Samford Bulldogs
    18: North Carolina A&T Aggies
    19: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
    20: Stony Brook Seawolves
    21: New Hampshire Wildcats
    22: Montana Grizzlies
    23: McNeese State Cowboys
    24: Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
    25: Illinois State Redbirds

    That is the last time they were in my poll. This is not slot voting. This is called being informed.
    So you think UNH was better Week 6 than now? I don't think anyone remotely informed would come to the conclusion. You must have been slot voting back then as well.
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    Re: AGS Poll Results - WEEK 11 - 11/13/2017

    Quote Originally Posted by WTFCollegefootballfan View Post
    What does the playoff committee use for seeding playoff teams?
    Roulette and a fifth of bourbon? (Which means the SRS and "persuasion" to vote for their teams)
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    Re: AGS Poll Results - WEEK 11 - 11/13/2017

    Quote Originally Posted by TheKingpin28 View Post
    The problem is, there are currently, IMO, 28 teams worthy of a vote and only 25 spots.

    Just so you can see I did not slot vote, this is where I had them last week:

    Week 10:

    1: James Madison Dukes
    2: Central Arkansas Bears
    3: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
    4: North Dakota State Bison
    5: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
    6: Sam Houston State Bearkats
    7: Elon Phoenix
    8: Southern Utah Thunderbirds
    9: South Dakota Coyotes
    10: Western Illinois Leathernecks
    11: Wofford Terriers
    12: Stony Brook Seawolves
    13: Weber State Wildcats
    14: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
    15: Western Carolina Catamounts
    16: Northern Iowa Panthers
    17: Samford Bulldogs
    18: Furman Paladins
    19: North Carolina A&T Aggies
    20: Monmouth Hawks
    21: Montana Grizzlies
    22: Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
    23: Nicholls State Colonels
    24: Illinois State Redbirds
    25:
    Kennesaw State Owls
    So then what do you expect the #24 team to do on the road at #5? Either they underperformed in your opinion or Kennesaw's throttling of 5-4 Charleston Southern was just that impressive. I do agree that UNH should be ranked in front of Illinois St so not disputing that.
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