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    Re: Patriot League Pick 'em - Week 12

    Quote Originally Posted by Lehigh Football Nation View Post
    My ideal week 12:

    Lehigh vs. Lafayette
    Colgate vs. Cornell
    Holy Cross vs. BU
    Georgetown vs. Loyola
    Fordham vs. Columbia
    Bucknell vs. Penn

    Bonus game:

    Brown vs. URI
    Might as well throw Rutgers Princeton into the mix as well.

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    Re: Patriot League Pick 'em - Week 12

    Quote Originally Posted by Lehigh Football Nation View Post
    My ideal week 12:

    Lehigh vs. Lafayette
    Colgate vs. Cornell
    Holy Cross vs. BU
    Georgetown vs. Loyola
    Fordham vs. Columbia
    Bucknell vs. Penn

    Bonus game:

    Brown vs. URI
    Penn should always close with Princeton IMO, just like they do in basketball.

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    Re: Patriot League Pick 'em - Week 12

    Hey, question for everyone - based on the Patriot League tiebreakers, am I correct in saying the Colgate wins the Patriot League title if Lehigh loses to Lafayette, regardless what the Red Raiders do against Georgetown? It looks like in a 3-way tie (Colgate, Lafayette, Lehigh in this case, if Lafayette beats Lehigh and Colgate loses to Georgetown), if the 3 teams in the tie all went 1-1 against one another, the next tiebreaker step is result against the 4th place team, then against the 5th place team and so on. Colgate would win the tiebreaker in that scenario even if they lose to Georgetown because the Hoyas will finish last in the league. (Obviously, Colgate also wins the league by having the best league record if they beat Georgetown and Lafayette defeats Lehigh.) Is the above correct?

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    Re: Patriot League Pick 'em - Week 12

    Quote Originally Posted by CHIP72 View Post
    Hey, question for everyone - based on the Patriot League tiebreakers, am I correct in saying the Colgate wins the Patriot League title if Lehigh loses to Lafayette, regardless what the Red Raiders do against Georgetown? It looks like in a 3-way tie (Colgate, Lafayette, Lehigh in this case, if Lafayette beats Lehigh and Colgate loses to Georgetown), if the 3 teams in the tie all went 1-1 against one another, the next tiebreaker step is result against the 4th place team, then against the 5th place team and so on. Colgate would win the tiebreaker in that scenario even if they lose to Georgetown because the Hoyas will finish last in the league. (Obviously, Colgate also wins the league by having the best league record if they beat Georgetown and Lafayette defeats Lehigh.) Is the above correct?
    yeah, and a hugh comet hits the earth and knocks us into Mars orbit and we pinball off Mars and the polar cap freezes all the way to Key West

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    Re: Patriot League Pick 'em - Week 12

    Quote Originally Posted by Sader87 View Post
    Colgate-HC makes more sense historically
    The brain dead schedule makers think so much of this matchup that it's been scheduled for Saturday, September 1st next season.

    Which brings up a critical question that no one has addressed: is there a central scheduling body for the League, or is everyone on their own?

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    Re: Patriot League Pick 'em - Week 12

    LAFAYETTE @ LEHIGH - If lehigh drops this game somehow, someway then the ol saying of on any given Saturday will truly live up to its name. Not sure Lafayette could score on air let alone an actual defense (7 points against gtown, 0 against colgate). Pains me greatly to say but brown birds will be sent off for a first round playoff massacre.
    COLGATE @ GEORGETOWN - Colgate will look to put up back to back goose eggs up defensively, and I expect them to be able to do it.
    BUCKNELL @ FORDHAM - A game that has zero meaning for either side. Which team cares less? I expect Bucky to pack it in first.

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    Re: Patriot League Pick 'em - Week 12

    Quote Originally Posted by CHIP72 View Post
    Hey, question for everyone - based on the Patriot League tiebreakers, am I correct in saying the Colgate wins the Patriot League title if Lehigh loses to Lafayette, regardless what the Red Raiders do against Georgetown? It looks like in a 3-way tie (Colgate, Lafayette, Lehigh in this case, if Lafayette beats Lehigh and Colgate loses to Georgetown), if the 3 teams in the tie all went 1-1 against one another, the next tiebreaker step is result against the 4th place team, then against the 5th place team and so on. Colgate would win the tiebreaker in that scenario even if they lose to Georgetown because the Hoyas will finish last in the league. (Obviously, Colgate also wins the league by having the best league record if they beat Georgetown and Lafayette defeats Lehigh.) Is the above correct?
    Believe so, but it won't happen. The 2 times Lafayette has beaten Lehigh in the past 9 meetings have been when LC has the best player on the field and arguably in the Patriot League (Ross Scheuerman). When Lehigh has the best player in the PL, these games aren't close. See Lum in 2011 and Shafnisky in 2015 and 2016. Bragalone is that player this year. Lafayette has 4 games with negative rushing yardage this season, so this could be a similar game to 2011 when the LC fans went back to the parking lot at halftime to drown their sorrows.
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    Re: Patriot League Pick 'em - Week 12

    Quote Originally Posted by carney2 View Post
    The brain dead schedule makers think so much of this matchup that it's been scheduled for Saturday, September 1st next season.

    Which brings up a critical question that no one has addressed: is there a central scheduling body for the League, or is everyone on their own?
    Center Valley does the PL schedules.

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    Re: Patriot League Pick 'em - Week 12

    Quote Originally Posted by CHIP72 View Post
    Hey, question for everyone - based on the Patriot League tiebreakers, am I correct in saying the Colgate wins the Patriot League title if Lehigh loses to Lafayette, regardless what the Red Raiders do against Georgetown? It looks like in a 3-way tie (Colgate, Lafayette, Lehigh in this case, if Lafayette beats Lehigh and Colgate loses to Georgetown), if the 3 teams in the tie all went 1-1 against one another, the next tiebreaker step is result against the 4th place team, then against the 5th place team and so on. Colgate would win the tiebreaker in that scenario even if they lose to Georgetown because the Hoyas will finish last in the league. (Obviously, Colgate also wins the league by having the best league record if they beat Georgetown and Lafayette defeats Lehigh.) Is the above correct?
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    yeah, and a hugh comet hits the earth and knocks us into Mars orbit and we pinball off Mars and the polar cap freezes all the way to Key West
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    Believe so, but it won't happen. The 2 times Lafayette has beaten Lehigh in the past 9 meetings have been when LC has the best player on the field and arguably in the Patriot League (Ross Scheuerman). When Lehigh has the best player in the PL, these games aren't close. See Lum in 2011 and Shafnisky in 2015 and 2016. Bragalone is that player this year. Lafayette has 4 games with negative rushing yardage this season, so this could be a similar game to 2011 when the LC fans went back to the parking lot at halftime to drown their sorrows.
    Believe me, I think it is unlikely Lehigh loses at home to Lafayette, and even more unlikely Colgate loses anywhere to Georgetown, but I wanted to be clear on the tiebreaker scenario. I looked into it to begin with just to see if Lehigh could afford to lose to Lafayette in any scenario, or if Lehigh couldn't make the playoffs whether or not Lafayette could.

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    Re: Patriot League Pick 'em - Week 12

    LAFAYETTE @ LEHIGH (Number 153) – If you can score 14 points against Lafayette you win because the Lafayette offense can’t keep up. Lehigh can score 14 points. Actually, Lehigh’s No-D may allow Lafayette’s offense its highlight reel day for 2017 and they may even spin the scoreboard to 14 – or more, but it won’t prevent the rout.

    COLGATE @ GEORGETOWN – Actually, people should care about this because the Raiders need to win, just in case … Does anyone think they won’t? Does anyone think Georgetown will score?

    BUCKNELL @ FORDHAM – If any game ever deserved to be cancelled due to lack of interest, this is it.

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