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    Re: MU to CAA speculation

    Quote Originally Posted by RootinFerDukes View Post
    It was him going rogue in 2011. Now they're saying, "if it's a right fit", which we suppose is anything other than the sun belt (which they actively turned down). They're holding out for the mythical unicorn that is a new east coast G5 conference consisting of SBC and CUSA teams in the east that are tired of sending their tennis teams to Texas.
    I'm still wondering why James Madison didn't go FBS instead of CCU. If that is why they turned down the Sunbelt they may have to wait a while until those TV contracts run out. And by then they might not want to make the move.
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    Re: MU to CAA speculation

    Quote Originally Posted by Laker View Post
    I'm still wondering why James Madison didn't go FBS instead of CCU. If that is why they turned down the Sunbelt they may have to wait a while until those TV contracts run out. And by then they might not want to make the move.
    This pretty much sums up what is and will happen. We're CAA4LYFE. Sorry Monmouth. You'll have to petition to join while we're still in the CAA. Maybe Rhode Island will move up first. It wouldn't surprise me at this point.

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    Re: MU to CAA speculation

    Quote Originally Posted by RootinFerDukes View Post
    This pretty much sums up what is and will happen. We're CAA4LYFE. Sorry Monmouth. You'll have to petition to join while we're still in the CAA. Maybe Rhode Island will move up first. It wouldn't surprise me at this point.
    Chin up, buddy.

    Personally I'm okay with FCS until FBS makes sense. I know we wanted to go CUSA (and would have if Marshall hadn't blocked it - that's why our AD said what he did then it didn't pan out, he had just had CUSA officials on campus and they were high on us), but SunBelt doesn't make financial sense. We'd be fiscally irresponsible to ship all our teams to that many away games so far away.

    Also, I enjoy having regional rivals. I work with a lot of Spatters/Nerds/Chickens and even a Villanofun grad. I enjoy being able to go to those away games. Do I want more for JMU? Sure, but I also know ODU admin are worried about the money side of things, especially now the CUSA TV money is gone.

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    Re: MU to CAA speculation

    Quote Originally Posted by RootinFerDukes View Post
    I hope it's after we're long gone. With that being said, I fully anticipate Monmouth being the program that'll replace us.

    JMU needs to be long gone.... please. The league has already been watered down enough by losing ODU and UMass and replacing them with Stony Brook, Albany and Elon.
    You also lost Northeastern and Hofstra, so....

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    Re: MU to CAA speculation

    Quote Originally Posted by RootinFerDukes View Post
    I hope it's after we're long gone. With that being said, I fully anticipate Monmouth being the program that'll replace us.

    JMU needs to be long gone.... please. The league has already been watered down enough by losing ODU and UMass and replacing them with Stony Brook, Albany and Elon.
    Really? You're counting ODU? Weren't they in the CAA all of maybe ten minutes? Realistically the CAA has lost one strong program in UMass and the "watering down" has been largely due to the rapid decline of UD.
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    You also lost Northeastern and Hofstra, so....
    Right? I don't understand what his argument really is since Albany has been squirting themselves pretty well and so has Stony Brook. Both seem to be upgrades over Northeastern and Hofstra in level of play. Maybe I'm way off though.


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    Re: MU to CAA speculation

    Quote Originally Posted by Go Lehigh TU owl View Post
    If you move up the league you'll be joining will likely be far more "watered down" relative to the rest of FBS than the CAA would be relative to the rest of FCS with Monmouth.
    Now you are coming around.
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    Re: MU to CAA speculation

    Strange the CAA has more associate football members than they do full member football schools.


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    Re: MU to CAA speculation

    Quote Originally Posted by Dave195 View Post
    I would prefer that Monmouth go to CAA as football-only member. MAAC seems like a better fit for basketball. Travel would be better for all other sports as well. Many of the northern teams are CAA associate members such as Albany, Maine, New Hampshire, and Stony Brook.

    http://www.app.com/story/sports/coll...uth/547409001/
    Personally I don't see the CAA as a good fit for Monmouth. The smallest stadium in the CAA belongs to Rhode Island at 6,580 seats and tell me again how they do. The city or township has aldy told the university they can't build anything bigger than 4K. What makes anyone think in the future they will change their mind on that.

    Quote Originally Posted by RootinFerDukes View Post
    They're holding out for the mythical unicorn that is a new east coast G5 conference consisting of SBC and CUSA teams in the east that are tired of sending their tennis teams to Texas.
    That conference is never going to come. Not unless there is a huge shake up in the landscape of college athletics. And as I can see future movement it won't be earth shattering.

    Quote Originally Posted by PaladinNation View Post
    It will never happen but I wish Furman would leave the SoCon for the CAA. I'd even be ok if we took The Citadel as our schedule buddy.
    Furman like The Cit, Western, UTC and ETSU is so entrenched in the SoCon I don't think anyone will move in our lifetime.

    Quote Originally Posted by DirtyDukes View Post
    I know we wanted to go CUSA (and would have if Marshall hadn't blocked it - that's why our AD said what he did then it didn't pan out, he had just had CUSA officials on campus and they were high on us), but SunBelt doesn't make financial sense. We'd be fiscally irresponsible to ship all our teams to that many away games so far away.
    I see you have been reading to much Harry Minium. When the last realignment started, CUSA offered ODU, JMU and Delaware a spot in CUSA as a package deal at the 2012 "Final Four". Both Delaware and JMU turned the offer down flat. When Wood Seling got back to Norfolk the 1st thing he done when he got in his office was to call Britton Banowsky, the CUSA commih at the time and expressed interest in wanting to join. After that then UTSA and WKU were added as the last 2 members. Marshall with Dr Kopp, Marshall's president at the time and AD Mike Hamrick are the two that pushed the most for the 3 of ODU, Delaware and JMU as a package. So why would they then do a 180 in a matter of a week or two and block the Dukes.

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    Re: MU to CAA speculation

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    Strange the CAA has more associate football members than they do full member football schools.


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    60+ year history starting as the football-only Yankee Conference, expanding by adding Colonial schools (among others), control passing to the A-10 and then the CAA. Another factor is America East refusing to sponsor FB, the demise of MAAC FB, and the NEC and the Patriot until until recently being non- or limited-scholarship and not really in the same peer group as the Albany and Stony Brook.
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    Re: MU to CAA speculation

    The Yankee Conference was an all-sports league in the first 30 years of it's existence. America East (back around the name change from the NAC) had seven football playing schools in 1997 when the Atlantic Ten took over the Yankee Conference. Even though Towson and Hofstra weren't in the YC/A10 yet, the missed opportunity to take over the league is a major blunder twenty years later. If that had happened, then the CAA/AE merger probably would've gone through around 2001.

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