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    2016 (Public) Athletic Department Balance Sheets

    The new numbers are out for the 2016-2017 academic year published by USA Today: http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/finances/

    I find it interesting to look at how FCS schools balance, or try to balance, their athletic budgets. If you click on the school you can see the subsidies the athletic department took in broken down by student fees and "school funds". It allows you to sort based on total revenue, total expenses, and % subsidy. Here's the top 10 for each amongst FCS schools (I just eyeballed it so there may be some mistakes). Keep in mind this is for all sports, not just football.

    Total revenue (highest)
    1. James Madison $47,442,648
    2. Delaware $34,309,705
    3. UC Davis $32,459,650
    4. Stony Brook $31,692,805
    5. New Hampshire $29,173,085
    6. Cal Poly $28,338,679
    7. Towson $27,424,255
    8. Sacramento St $26,741,348
    9. Rhode Island $26,627,943
    10. Illinois St $26,521,556

    Total revenue (lowest)
    1. Alabama A&M $2,592,863
    2. Mississippi Valley St $4,288,571
    3. Alcorn St $5,441,889
    4. Grambling $6,198,723
    5. Arkansas-Pine Bluff $7,141,263
    6. Jackson St $7,602,536
    7. South Carolina St $8,449,844
    8. Nicholls St $8,587,660
    9. Morgan St $10,453,448
    10. UT Martin $10,679,463

    Total expenses (highest)
    1. James Madison $47,442,648
    2. Delaware $34,309,705
    3. UC Davis $31,837,452
    4. Stony Brook $30,968,765
    5. Towson $29,412,429
    6. New Hampshire $28,908,841
    7. Southern Illinois $27,544,434
    8. Sacramento St $27,348,042
    9. William & Mary $26,499,511
    10. North Dakota $26,327,877

    Total expenses (lowest)
    1. Mississippi Valley St $4,288,571
    2. Alcorn St $6,751,529
    3. Arkansas Pine-Bluff $7,153,294
    4. Jackson St $7,602,536
    5. South Carolina St $8,438,685
    6. Nicholls St $8,492,701
    7. Grambling $8,642,954
    8. Alabama A&M $9,372,315
    9. UT Martin $10,679,463
    10. Texas Southern $10,889,527

    % subsidy/allocated (lowest)
    1. Montana 34.15
    2. North Dakota St 34.47
    3. South Dakota St 45.50
    4. North Dakota 47.95
    5. VMI 48.20
    6. Northern Iowa 48.96
    7. McNeese St 49.13
    8. Mississippi Valley St 50.47
    9. Montana St 51.14
    10. Florida A&M 53.89

    % subsidy/allocated (highest)
    1. Central Connecticut 88.40
    2. Morehead St 88.09
    3. Towson 86.35
    4. Sacramento St 84.83
    5. Stony Brook 84.58
    6. Morgan St 83.35
    7. Delaware St 82.76
    8. Alabama St 82.27
    9. Texas Southern 82.22
    10. Stephen F Austin 81.94

    Pretty interesting to see where we all stack up amongst the big boys I thought.
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    Re: 2016 (Public) Athletic Department Balance Sheets

    A couple interesting notes.

    JMU gets more revenue from student fees ($36M+) than any other FCS school's total revenue.

    I still don't know how MVSU supports a D1 athletic department with less than $5M. Their lack of success is not surprising given their lack of investment in athletics. Why even have a D1 athletic department if you're going to underfund it so badly?

    FCOA doesn't seem to have a huge impact on AD expenses. NDSU didn't even crack the top 10 in the FCS after giving FCOA to all scholarship athletes this year.
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    Re: 2016 (Public) Athletic Department Balance Sheets

    Quote Originally Posted by Professor Chaos View Post
    A couple interesting notes.

    JMU gets more revenue from student fees ($36M+) than any other FCS school's total revenue.

    I still don't know how MVSU supports a D1 athletic department with less than $5M. Their lack of success is not surprising given their lack of investment in athletics. Why even have a D1 athletic department if you're going to underfund it so badly?

    FCOA doesn't seem to have a huge impact on AD expenses. NDSU didn't even crack the top 10 in the FCS after giving FCOA to all scholarship athletes this year.
    I was thinking about that too. If you look at the numbers, the scholarship expense hardly moved at all compared to the average trend--- the growth in scholarship expenses seems to be pretty steady at a 250k-300k per year over the past 10 years for NDSU. You would expect to see a jump larger than normal if you're going to be adding 3-4k scholarship $$ to each athlete in one year. Maybe NDSU has an implementation plan like SDSU where select athletes are awarded FCOA, that seems to be the only explanation I can think of. That or the FCOA is clumped into the "other" expense column, that could be a possibility too.


    NDSU AD EXPENSES
    YEAR COACHING / STAFF SCHOLARSHIPS FACILITIES / OVERHEAD OTHER TOTAL EXPENSES
    2016 $8,098,029 $3,657,390 $2,026,788 $9,735,251 $23,517,458
    2015 $7,663,880 $3,501,744 $1,744,957 $9,357,849 $22,268,430
    2014 $7,383,100 $3,461,090 $859,513 $8,915,135 $20,618,838
    2013 $6,693,954 $3,270,917 $939,916 $7,798,182 $18,702,969
    2012 $6,196,868 $2,993,457 $535,093 $7,106,029 $16,831,447
    2011 $5,953,062 $2,849,167 $415,140 $6,133,876 $15,351,245
    2010 $5,406,489 $2,727,872 $773,734 $5,516,344 $14,424,439
    2009 $5,122,565 $2,482,613 $239,854 $5,256,919 $13,101,951
    2008 $4,349,264 $2,217,536 $171,789 $4,929,411 $11,668,000
    2007 $3,883,158 $2,049,770 $132,387 $4,161,129 $10,226,444
    2006 $3,596,545 $1,861,707 $42,514 $3,388,255 $8,889,021
    2005 $2,979,213 $1,448,411 $0 $3,357,211 $7,784,835

    SDSU AD EXPENSES
    YEAR COACHING / STAFF SCHOLARSHIPS FACILITIES / OVERHEAD OTHER TOTAL EXPENSES
    2016 $6,018,388 $3,759,761 $952,865 $6,127,503 $16,858,517
    2015 $5,729,179 $3,755,551 $674,735 $6,257,688 $16,417,153
    2014 $5,247,705 $3,618,226 $484,274 $6,350,384 $15,700,589
    2013 $4,852,661 $3,190,134 $489,850 $6,547,105 $15,079,750
    2012 $4,246,488 $3,035,045 $494,830 $6,338,735 $14,115,098
    2011 $3,994,892 $2,734,141 $546,070 $5,831,768 $13,106,871
    2010 $3,633,397 $2,664,974 $558,612 $5,488,528 $12,345,511
    2009 $2,827,604 $2,402,154 $354,003 $5,139,394 $10,723,155
    2008 $2,530,963 $2,275,567 $310,000 $5,485,607 $10,602,137
    2007 $2,124,681 $1,742,665 $236,694 $4,294,150 $8,398,190
    2006 $1,877,753 $1,289,157 $871,904 $3,468,177 $7,506,991
    2005 $2,271,848 $968,572 $181,663 $2,777,822 $6,199,905
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    Re: 2016 (Public) Athletic Department Balance Sheets

    Interesting that Stonybrook has 4th highest income, 4th highest expenses and 5th most subsidy. As a NY resident I am appalled. When SHU visits Stonybrook this year I will announce at the gate "I have already paid for my ticket!!!" NY also just passed free college tuition if you meet certain income (or lack thereof) requirements....

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    Re: 2016 (Public) Athletic Department Balance Sheets

    Quote Originally Posted by Bluefish845 View Post
    Interesting that Stonybrook has 4th highest income, 4th highest expenses and 5th most subsidy. As a NY resident I am appalled. When SHU visits Stonybrook this year I will announce at the gate "I have already paid for my ticket!!!" NY also just passed free college tuition if you meet certain income (or lack thereof) requirements....
    Free tuition in NY??? SOO if I move there...don't take a job...apply with $0 income...can I spend 4 years at Syracuse in the dorms and have some fun???? This "free tuition" experiment the left wing is going on is ripe for abuse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bucs2016 View Post
    Free tuition in NY??? SOO if I move there...don't take a job...apply with $0 income...can I spend 4 years at Syracuse in the dorms and have some fun???? This "free tuition" experiment the left wing is going on is ripe for abuse.
    'Cuse is a private school the Free tuition is for public schools only but includes both Stonybrook and Albany. You would still be on the hook for room and board which is more than tuition at most of the state schools currently SUNY tuition is about $5,700 per semester although that can vary by school slightly

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluefish845 View Post
    'Cuse is a private school the Free tuition is for public schools only but includes both Stonybrook and Albany. You would still be on the hook for room and board which is more than tuition at most of the state schools currently SUNY tuition is about $5,700 per semester although that can vary by school slightly
    Sorry old number it is $6,470 per semester..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluefish845 View Post
    'Cuse is a private school the Free tuition is for public schools only but includes both Stonybrook and Albany. You would still be on the hook for room and board which is more than tuition at most of the state schools currently SUNY tuition is about $5,700 per semester although that can vary by school slightly
    It is really not free money. If the student applies for the scholarship they have to commit to stay and work in New York State for four years after they graduate. If they leave after graduation then they are obligated to payback the loan with interest. I understand this is not a popular since many kids do not want to commit to stay in New York and I cant blame them .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seawolf97 View Post
    It is really not free money. If the student applies for the scholarship they have to commit to stay and work in New York State for four years after they graduate. If they leave after graduation then they are obligated to payback the loan with interest. I understand this is not a popular since many kids do not want to commit to stay in New York and I cant blame them .
    I honestly can't blame the state for instituting that rule though. If they're going to invest in college educations for their citizens, they need to know that they're staying within their local economy. It would be awful if they DIDN'T put that in the legislation.

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    Re: 2016 (Public) Athletic Department Balance Sheets

    Quote Originally Posted by Seawolf97 View Post
    It is really not free money. If the student applies for the scholarship they have to commit to stay and work in New York State for four years after they graduate. If they leave after graduation then they are obligated to payback the loan with interest. I understand this is not a popular since many kids do not want to commit to stay in New York and I cant blame them .
    Its not like they have to stay in Manhattan, Brooklyn, Queens or Bronx after graduating. I would gladly take 4 years of tuition paid for by the state in exchange for sucking it up for 4 years working in NY even if I had to live in North Jersey and commute into the city if I landed a job in Manhattan lol.

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