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    Re: The All SoCon Preseason Team per SP

    Quote Originally Posted by SmallCollegeFBFan View Post
    I went ahead and checked rosters. ETSU is the only one who has not posted a 2017 roster yet.
    neither has VMI....but Swingle was not on the Spring roster, if that was your point of reference....

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    Re: The All SoCon Preseason Team per SP

    Quote Originally Posted by kdinva View Post
    neither has VMI....but Swingle was not on the Spring roster, if that was your point of reference....

    http://www.vmikeydets.com/SportSelec...&Q_SEASON=2017
    A couple schools only had a 2017 spring roster but I counted that. ETSU did not have anything for 2017 posted at all so there could be some factual errors for ETSU on my updated list.

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    Re: The All SoCon Preseason Team per SP

    Quote Originally Posted by SmallCollegeFBFan View Post
    I went ahead and checked rosters. ETSU is the only one who has not posted a 2017 roster yet. I put two transfers on the 3rd team.

    2017 PRESEASON ALL-SOUTHERN CONFERENCE TEAMS

    First Team Offense
    OL Josh Cardiello, Chattanooga, Sr.
    OL Roo Daniels, Wofford, Sr.
    OL Matthew Schmidt, Furman, Sr.
    OL Ross Demmel, Wofford, Jr.
    OL Jared Jacon-Duffy, Wofford, Jr.

    Second Team Offense
    OL Malcolm White, Chattanooga, Soph.
    OL Antwan Johnson, Samford, Jr.
    OL Zach Weeks, Western Carolina, Jr.
    OL Tyler Davis, The Citadel, Jr.
    OL Nick Nixon, Samford, Soph.

    Third Team Offense
    OL Brendan Loftus, Samford, Soph.
    OL Drew McEntyre, The Citadel, Soph.
    OL Nathan Dalton, Western Carolina, Jr.
    OL Ben Blackmon, ETSU, Soph.
    OL Walker Lanning, Western Carolina, Soph.
    A couple of Bear-related OL questions...

    Since you started considering transfers, did you give any thought to David May, C, R-JR (Graduate Transfer), for Mercer http://www.mercerbears.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=4895? He's 6-4, 297 and started as a R-FR & R-SO at Valdosta State, a top D2 program. He was All-Conference, All Super-Region and Freshman All-American in 2015 http://www.vstateblazers.com/news/20...?path=football. Not sure why his 'honors' went away in 2016, but it looks like he may have missed a few games & they did acquire Kerwin Bell as their new Head Coach; not sure.

    Speaking of O-Linemen from Mercer...hard to believe that 3-year starter at Left Tackle, SR, Thomas Marchman http://www.mercerbears.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=4868, is not getting any 'love.' John Russ didn't put up his commendable stats over the past 3 years worrying about his blind side and Mercer hasn't been in the upper tier of the SoCon rushing stats without the ability to run the ball left. Marchman is as athletic as any OT in the SoCon and has continued to add strength each year. Yeah, he may still have chicken legs, but he's very effective and consistent.

    His bowling and gymnastics games are on point as well!
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    Re: The All SoCon Preseason Team per SP


    Quote Originally Posted by citdog View Post
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    Re: The All SoCon Preseason Team per SP

    Thanks for putting together the lists. I am from the camp that thinks that pre-season rankings are little more than conversation starters for fans in the offseason, but it's June and I am ready for the season to start so lets discuss.

    With the coaching changes in Chattanooga and the resulting scheme changes I am not sure what to expect. On the defensive side we are going from a 4-2-5 to a 3-4-4 and I think Derek Mahaffey is going to have a big year at Nose. It's not a big stats position, but arguably the most important position in a 3-4.

    One player I am excited about seeing is Hawk Schrider at OLB. What little I have seen he is a high motor kid that reminded me a little of Davis Tull.

    Tae Davis has moved to inside linebacker and he is a great football player too. He has paid his dues being a special teams monster, and I think he shine in a starting role.

    On the offensive side of the ball, watch wideout Alphanso Stuart a big experianced player with good hands who has been bangged up the past few years. If healthy, he could play a big part in the passing game.

    Dark horse is Running Back Darrel Bridges who is a graduate transfer from Presbyterian. He played at nearby Ridgeland HS and wanted to play at UTC, but we wanted him as a LB (signed RB Derrick Craine in the same class) and he wanted to play RB. Well he is getting his chance to play RB for his hometown school now. He may end up as our starting back, or he may end up third string, I have no idea. His sophomore year at Presbyterian was pretty impressive but he seemed to take a little bit of a step back this year. It will be interesting to see if he is more successful having a better supporting cast than he had with the Blue Hose and how he handles not being the main (only) offensive option.

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    The SoCon is loaded with Talent this year!

    2017 PRESEASON ALL-SOUTHERN CONFERENCE TEAMS

    PRESEASON OFFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE YEAR: RB Detrez Newsome, Western Carolina, Sr.
    PRESEASON DEFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE YEAR:
    DL Ahmad Gooden, Samford, Jr.

    First Team Offense
    QB Devlin Hodges, Samford, Jr.
    RB Detrez Newsome, Western Carolina, Sr.
    RB Cam Jackson, The Citadel, Sr.
    OL Josh Cardiello, Chattanooga, Sr.
    OL Nate Lee, Samford, So.
    OL Matthew Schmidt, Furman, Sr.
    OL Ross Demmel, Wofford, Jr.
    OL Brendan Loftus, Samford, Jr.
    TE Chandler Gouger, Wofford, Sr.
    WR Kelvin McKnight, Samford, Jr.
    WR Marquise Irvin, Mercer, Jr.

    First Team Defense
    DL Miles Brown, Wofford, Jr.
    DL Tyler Vaughn, Wofford, Sr.
    DL Isaiah Buehler, Mercer, Jr.
    DL Ahmad Gooden, Samford, Jr.
    LB Shaheed Salmon, Samford, Sr.
    LB Dale Warren, Chattanooga, Sr.
    LB Ryan Francis, VMI, Sr.
    DB Kailik Williams, The Citadel, Sr.
    DB Omari Williams, Samford, Sr.
    DB Lucas Webb, Chattanooga, Sr.
    DB Devin Watson, Wofford, Jr.

    First Team Specialists
    K JJ Jerman, ETSU, Jr.
    P Austin Barnard, Samford, Sr.
    RS Mason Dermott, VMI, Jr.


    Second Team Offense
    QB Alejandro Bennifield, Chattanooga, Sr.
    RB Trey'von Paulk, Samford, Jr.
    RB Jajuan Stinson, ETSU, Jr.
    OL Malcolm White, Chattanooga, So.
    OL Antwan Johnson, Samford, Jr.
    OL Zach Weeks, Western Carolina, Jr.
    OL Tyler Davis, The Citadel, Jr.
    OL Nick Nixon, Samford, So.
    TE Tyler Sexton, Western Carolina, Sr.
    WR Terryon Robinson, Western Carolina, Sr.
    WR Jai Creamer, Samford, So.

    Second Team Defense
    DL Ken Allen, The Citadel, Jr.
    DL Jaylan Reid, Furman, Jr.
    DL Isaiah Mack, Chattanooga, Jr.
    DL Xavier Forrest, Samford, Sr.
    LB Dylan Weigel, ETSU, Jr.
    LB Alan Cratsenberg, VMI, Sr.
    LB Deion Pierre, Samford, Sr.
    DB Greg Sanders, VMI, Sr.
    DB George Gbesee, Wofford, So.
    DB Trevor Wright, Chattanooga, Sr.
    DB Sam Pettway, Samford, Sr.

    Second Team Specialists
    K Cole Fisher, Mercer, Jr.
    P Ian Berryman, Western Carolina, Jr.
    RS TD Marshall, Samford, So.

    Third Team Offense
    QB Tyrie Adams, Western Carolina, So.
    RB K’rondis Larry, Samford, Sr.
    RB Daz Palmer, VMI, Soph.
    OL Mike Williams, Samford, So.
    OL Drew McEntyre, The Citadel, So.
    OL Nathan Dalton, Western Carolina, Jr.
    OL Reed Hulgan, Samford, So.
    OL Walker Lanning, Western Carolina, So.
    TE Sam Walker, Mercer, Jr.
    WR James Stovall, Chattanooga, Sr.
    WR TD Marshall, Samford, So.

    Third Team Defense
    DL Tremond Ferrell, ETSU, Jr.
    DL Xavier Forrest, Samford, Sr.
    DL Nasir Player, ETSU, Soph.
    DL Taylor Reynolds, Chattanooga, Sr.
    LB Daniel Riddle, Western Carolina, Sr.
    LB Myles Pierce, The Citadel, Sr.
    LB Deion Pierre, Samford, Sr.
    DB C.J. Fritz, Chattanooga, Jr.
    DB Kareem Orr, Chattanooga, Jr.
    DB Paul Hunter, ETSU, Sr.
    DB Aaquil Annoor, Furman, Jr.

    Third Team Specialists
    K Jacob Godek, The Citadel, So.
    P Colin Brewer, Chattanooga, So.
    RS Quinlan Washington, The Citadel, Jr.

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    Re: The All SoCon Preseason Team per SP

    Quote Originally Posted by FUBeAR View Post
    A couple of Bear-related OL questions...

    Since you started considering transfers, did you give any thought to David May, C, R-JR (Graduate Transfer), for Mercer http://www.mercerbears.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=4895? He's 6-4, 297 and started as a R-FR & R-SO at Valdosta State, a top D2 program. He was All-Conference, All Super-Region and Freshman All-American in 2015 http://www.vstateblazers.com/news/20...?path=football. Not sure why his 'honors' went away in 2016, but it looks like he may have missed a few games & they did acquire Kerwin Bell as their new Head Coach; not sure.

    Speaking of O-Linemen from Mercer...hard to believe that 3-year starter at Left Tackle, SR, Thomas Marchman http://www.mercerbears.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=4868, is not getting any 'love.' John Russ didn't put up his commendable stats over the past 3 years worrying about his blind side and Mercer hasn't been in the upper tier of the SoCon rushing stats without the ability to run the ball left. Marchman is as athletic as any OT in the SoCon and has continued to add strength each year. Yeah, he may still have chicken legs, but he's very effective and consistent.

    His bowling and gymnastics games are on point as well!
    I don't know the deal on May since he left so I left him off. As for the other one I almost put him on 3rd team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VictoryViking View Post
    The SoCon is loaded with Talent this year!

    2017 PRESEASON ALL-SOUTHERN CONFERENCE TEAMS

    PRESEASON OFFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE YEAR: RB Detrez Newsome, Western Carolina, Sr.
    PRESEASON DEFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE YEAR:
    DL Ahmad Gooden, Samford, Jr.

    First Team Offense
    QB Devlin Hodges, Samford, Jr.
    RB Detrez Newsome, Western Carolina, Sr.
    RB Cam Jackson, The Citadel, Sr.
    OL Josh Cardiello, Chattanooga, Sr.
    OL Nate Lee, Samford, So.
    OL Matthew Schmidt, Furman, Sr.
    OL Ross Demmel, Wofford, Jr.
    OL Brendan Loftus, Samford, Jr.
    TE Chandler Gouger, Wofford, Sr.
    WR Kelvin McKnight, Samford, Jr.
    WR Marquise Irvin, Mercer, Jr.

    First Team Defense
    DL Miles Brown, Wofford, Jr.
    DL Tyler Vaughn, Wofford, Sr.
    DL Isaiah Buehler, Mercer, Jr.
    DL Ahmad Gooden, Samford, Jr.
    LB Shaheed Salmon, Samford, Sr.
    LB Dale Warren, Chattanooga, Sr.
    LB Ryan Francis, VMI, Sr.
    DB Kailik Williams, The Citadel, Sr.
    DB Omari Williams, Samford, Sr.
    DB Lucas Webb, Chattanooga, Sr.
    DB Devin Watson, Wofford, Jr.

    First Team Specialists
    K JJ Jerman, ETSU, Jr.
    P Austin Barnard, Samford, Sr.
    RS Mason Dermott, VMI, Jr.


    Second Team Offense
    QB Alejandro Bennifield, Chattanooga, Sr.
    RB Trey'von Paulk, Samford, Jr.
    RB Jajuan Stinson, ETSU, Jr.
    OL Malcolm White, Chattanooga, So.
    OL Antwan Johnson, Samford, Jr.
    OL Zach Weeks, Western Carolina, Jr.
    OL Tyler Davis, The Citadel, Jr.
    OL Nick Nixon, Samford, So.
    TE Tyler Sexton, Western Carolina, Sr.
    WR Terryon Robinson, Western Carolina, Sr.
    WR Jai Creamer, Samford, So.

    Second Team Defense
    DL Ken Allen, The Citadel, Jr.
    DL Jaylan Reid, Furman, Jr.
    DL Isaiah Mack, Chattanooga, Jr.
    DL Xavier Forrest, Samford, Sr.
    LB Dylan Weigel, ETSU, Jr.
    LB Alan Cratsenberg, VMI, Sr.
    LB Deion Pierre, Samford, Sr.
    DB Greg Sanders, VMI, Sr.
    DB George Gbesee, Wofford, So.
    DB Trevor Wright, Chattanooga, Sr.
    DB Sam Pettway, Samford, Sr.

    Second Team Specialists
    K Cole Fisher, Mercer, Jr.
    P Ian Berryman, Western Carolina, Jr.
    RS TD Marshall, Samford, So.

    Third Team Offense
    QB Tyrie Adams, Western Carolina, So.
    RB K’rondis Larry, Samford, Sr.
    RB Daz Palmer, VMI, Soph.
    OL Mike Williams, Samford, So.
    OL Drew McEntyre, The Citadel, So.
    OL Nathan Dalton, Western Carolina, Jr.
    OL Reed Hulgan, Samford, So.
    OL Walker Lanning, Western Carolina, So.
    TE Sam Walker, Mercer, Jr.
    WR James Stovall, Chattanooga, Sr.
    WR TD Marshall, Samford, So.

    Third Team Defense
    DL Tremond Ferrell, ETSU, Jr.
    DL Xavier Forrest, Samford, Sr.
    DL Nasir Player, ETSU, Soph.
    DL Taylor Reynolds, Chattanooga, Sr.
    LB Daniel Riddle, Western Carolina, Sr.
    LB Myles Pierce, The Citadel, Sr.
    LB Deion Pierre, Samford, Sr.
    DB C.J. Fritz, Chattanooga, Jr.
    DB Kareem Orr, Chattanooga, Jr.
    DB Paul Hunter, ETSU, Sr.
    DB Aaquil Annoor, Furman, Jr.

    Third Team Specialists
    K Jacob Godek, The Citadel, So.
    P Colin Brewer, Chattanooga, So.
    RS Quinlan Washington, The Citadel, Jr.
    When it comes to a few positions like WR, LB, and OL I think there is a lot of talent for the FCS level but this is the worst I have seen the league when it comes to NFL talent in a long time. I expected this to happen though after 4-5 years with CCU, App, Ga Southern all gone and Charlotte, Georgia State, and ODU forming programs in the last 8 years or so. It has finally thinned the league of NFL talent.

    The only NFL talent I see at this point among seniors is Newsome of WCU and maybe the DB Williams but I only see them as free agents. I'm not sure anyone will get drafted or go to the combine. There could be someone surprise and put up a great senior year but I don't see a Keionta Davis or Corey Levin at this point.

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    I agree for the most part, but disagree on a few positions. There are a number of WR, LB, CB, OL, DL, and P's that have pro potential in the the SOCON. Pro scouts are looking at guys across the league. Most will be free agent pick ups, but on the radar. I have not seen or heard any pro scouts circling SoCon QB's or RB's yet. With that said, there are couple in the wings that have possibilities.

    Quote Originally Posted by SmallCollegeFBFan View Post
    When it comes to a few positions like WR, LB, and OL I think there is a lot of talent for the FCS level but this is the worst I have seen the league when it comes to NFL talent in a long time. I expected this to happen though after 4-5 years with CCU, App, Ga Southern all gone and Charlotte, Georgia State, and ODU forming programs in the last 8 years or so. It has finally thinned the league of NFL talent.

    The only NFL talent I see at this point among seniors is Newsome of WCU and maybe the DB Williams but I only see them as free agents. I'm not sure anyone will get drafted or go to the combine. There could be someone surprise and put up a great senior year but I don't see a Keionta Davis or Corey Levin at this point.

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