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    Re: Savannah State going back to Division II

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    I wouldn't call it a "Lot" by any stretch. Its the same group led by Willie Walker who aren't happy with the decision. Keep in mind this same group was pushing for Savannah State to go D1 despite being told by both the SWAC and MEAC that they weren't ready for such a move. SSU made the move anyway and was without a conference home for a decade.
    SSU should fit right in with the SIAC. Lot of close by schools.

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    Re: Savannah State going back to Division II

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    SSU should fit right in with the SIAC. Lot of close by schools.
    True. Honestly they should've never left the SIAC.

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    Re: Savannah State going back to Division II

    This is a shame. If done properly Savannah State could have been in the Big South by now. Close by games with plenty of FCS schools and a middling FBS payday at Ga So right down the road.
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    Re: Savannah State going back to Division II

    Interesting conversations on the Onnidan sports boards suggesting that state politics has a role in this; namely, that the University System of Georgia Board of Regents' consolidation of former HBCU Armstrong State (located in Savannah) into Georgia Southern was a factor. I get it, but Savannah State's woeful record and ongoing financial troubles certainly contributed.

    Mergers of HBCU's is a volatile topic. There have been stories for years that Mississippi Valley and Alcorn State were candidates to roll into Jackson State but it would cause too much pushback, as would Southern into LSU. No one wants to see see their school closed, but there are a lot of smaller state schools out there in trouble.

    (One could only imagine the artillery that would be set off if someone in Columbia tried to merge The Citadel into the University of South Carolina.)
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    Re: Savannah State going back to Division II

    Quote Originally Posted by DFW HOYA View Post
    Interesting conversations on the Onnidan sports boards suggesting that state politics has a role in this; namely, that the University System of Georgia Board of Regents' consolidation of former HBCU Armstrong State (located in Savannah) into Georgia Southern was a factor. I get it, but Savannah State's woeful record and ongoing financial troubles certainly contributed.

    Mergers of HBCU's is a volatile topic. There have been stories for years that Mississippi Valley and Alcorn State were candidates to roll into Jackson State but it would cause too much pushback, as would Southern into LSU. No one wants to see see their school closed, but there are a lot of smaller state schools out there in trouble.

    (One could only imagine the artillery that would be set off if someone in Columbia tried to merge The Citadel into the University of South Carolina.)

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    Re: Savannah State going back to Division II

    My correction from above: Armstrong State was not a HBCU.
    Last edited by DFW HOYA; April 16th, 2017 at 12:02 AM.
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    Re: Savannah State going back to Division II

    Quote Originally Posted by DFW HOYA View Post
    Interesting conversations on the Onnidan sports boards suggesting that state politics has a role in this; namely, that the University System of Georgia Board of Regents' consolidation of former HBCU Armstrong State (located in Savannah) into Georgia Southern was a factor. I get it, but Savannah State's woeful record and ongoing financial troubles certainly contributed.

    Mergers of HBCU's is a volatile topic. There have been stories for years that Mississippi Valley and Alcorn State were candidates to roll into Jackson State but it would cause too much pushback, as would Southern into LSU. No one wants to see see their school closed, but there are a lot of smaller state schools out there in trouble.

    (One could only imagine the artillery that would be set off if someone in Columbia tried to merge The Citadel into the University of South Carolina.)
    That is an underlying problem. Keep in mind Armstrong was a community college until the mid 60s while Savannah State has been up and a running since 1890. Armstrong being turned into a 4 year college cause all kinds of hell. It was rooted in racism and bigotry but Savannah State has given the state plenty of ammunition though. Savannah State has two problems. One being the state and the other being an administration that can't seem to get out of their own way.

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    Re: Savannah State going back to Division II

    Remember when the Celebration Bowl money and "exposure" was supposed to make the MEAC so attractive that finacially troubled schools like SSU would be fools to reclassify to D-II?

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    Re: Savannah State going back to Division II

    Quote Originally Posted by Lehigh Football Nation View Post
    Remember when the Celebration Bowl money and "exposure" was supposed to make the MEAC so attractive that finacially troubled schools like SSU would be fools to reclassify to D-II?
    A Celebration Bowl plus some wouldn't help Savannah State. Leaving the SIAC hurt them badly, especially since for about a decade they had no conference home. Savannah State drew well with SIAC rivals Clark-Atlanta, Morehouse, Morris Brown, Fort Valley State, Albany State, Tuskegee, and Miles on the schedule. Those games would draw over 10,000+ with a significant amount of tailgate traffic also. Savannah State also had 2-3 classic games that they would play in yearly including one against us but once the program declined, the fan base did to and Savannah State was dropped from those games. SSU was typically ranked in the top 5 as far as attendance at the D2 level but it's been 15+ years now since they've averaged over 5,000 per game. And Savannah was once the school who the fire Marshall would have to turn people away during homecoming and a few rivalry games.

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    Re: Savannah State going back to Division II

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    This is a shame. If done properly Savannah State could have been in the Big South by now. Close by games with plenty of FCS schools and a middling FBS payday at Ga So right down the road.
    That program is such a disaster i dont think even we would've taken them. We wanted Jacksonville more and would probably pursue Newberry or Wingate to move up way before Savannah State.
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