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    Re: NCAA Rules Committee: 3 Rule Recommendations

    Quote Originally Posted by mango433 View Post
    Not sure if there were a lot of injuries, but there definitely were some, usually in the NFL. Roy Williams was pretty well-known for it.

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    What point do we have to get to before we accept that injuries happen in football and you can't legislate that out of it. I don't see this crusade against hockey or rugby. Hell I remember in hockey when I was a kid we had to watch videos on how to have your head positioned if you slide into the boards to help prevent broken necks. I know there isn't a pandemic of broken necks in hockey, it just more to the point of recognizing the risks and educating the players as opposed to trying to legislate safety until the game isn't the game anymore.

    People are going to tear up knees, break things, dislocate limbs, and get concussions in a sport where you have large people smashing into each other at full speed, yet people act shocked an appalled that it happens. I understand trying to protect the athletes from themselves but at some point this basic concept just has to be recognized as a fact of the game.


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    Re: NCAA Rules Committee: 3 Rule Recommendations

    Quote Originally Posted by Thumper 76 View Post
    What point do we have to get to before we accept that injuries happen in football and you can't legislate that out of it. I don't see this crusade against hockey or rugby. Hell I remember in hockey when I was a kid we had to watch videos on how to have your head positioned if you slide into the boards to help prevent broken necks. I know there isn't a pandemic of broken necks in hockey, it just more to the point of recognizing the risks and educating the players as opposed to trying to legislate safety until the game isn't the game anymore.

    People are going to tear up knees, break things, dislocate limbs, and get concussions in a sport where you have large people smashing into each other at full speed, yet people act shocked an appalled that it happens. I understand trying to protect the athletes from themselves but at some point this basic concept just has to be recognized as a fact of the game.


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    Re: NCAA Rules Committee: 3 Rule Recommendations

    Quote Originally Posted by mango433 View Post
    To be clear, including the nameplate as part of a horse collar is extremely dumb.
    Sorry, I should have said I'm not trying to rag on you. More was a general rant


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    Re: NCAA Rules Committee: 3 Rule Recommendations

    Quote Originally Posted by ASU33 View Post
    Pretty much!
    What do you think of that rule, you played ball at a pretty high level, what are your thoughts.

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    Re: NCAA Rules Committee: 3 Rule Recommendations

    Yes to 1 & 2, no to 3.

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    Re: NCAA Rules Committee: 3 Rule Recommendations

    If players don't want to wear knee pads that's on them. I found them to be fairly useless and combersome. Stupid one size fits all rule.

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    Re: NCAA Rules Committee: 3 Rule Recommendations

    Quote Originally Posted by RootinFerDukes View Post
    I don't see an issue with leaping over someone if you don't land on or step on them. Is that any different than a receiver or running back leaping over a tackling defender?

    Is this consistently leading to player injuries? If not, why bother?
    The landing on someone is damn near impossible to call. The folks watching for it are the umpire on FGs and "double umpires" on PATs. From that position, once the ball is snapped, you can't see where or on what they land. We were just looking for jumping off of someone on the way up (climbing the pyramid). I like #2 as I've been frustrated by this for years. Players getting all kinds of knee injuries while running around with basically shorts on and paper thin knee pads up on their thighs. I don't like #3 as the horse collar rule as it is is way too subjective with a very severe penalty.

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    Re: NCAA Rules Committee: 3 Rule Recommendations

    Quote Originally Posted by Thumper 76 View Post
    Really only on board with #2 tbh. Yeah leaping the line could be dangerous. I would argue it's more dangerous for a ball carrier to try to hurdle a tackler, and I doubt that will be brought up anytime soon.


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    Hurdling is actually a penalty too, although it is never called.

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    Re: NCAA Rules Committee: 3 Rule Recommendations

    Quote Originally Posted by PAllen View Post
    Hurdling is actually a penalty too, although it is never called.
    Not at the college level
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    Re: NCAA Rules Committee: 3 Rule Recommendations

    Quote Originally Posted by Bisonator View Post
    Agreed that is dumb. Were there a lot of injuries from horse collar tackles to begin with? I never heard of any. Just more feel good **** that looks like they are saving people from themselves again.
    Not a lot. But occasionally a knee would pop. Cant remember the player but a high profile NFL guy went down and NFL immediately made the rule. We should just hand out the flags already.

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    Hurdling is actually a penalty too, although it is never called.
    Only in high school is it illegal
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