If UNI wins more than 3 games this year I'll think about changing my avatar back to UNI.
Seriously. The O/U for UNI should be 3.5.
I'll get back to you in a few weeks if we've hired any coaches
If UNI wins more than 3 games this year I'll think about changing my avatar back to UNI.
Seriously. The O/U for UNI should be 3.5.
I'll get back to you in a few weeks if we've hired any coaches
****ty situation for UNI for sure, don't see how it doesn't cause them to bomb compared to what they normally are. Really hurts the conference when UNI isn't good, hopefully it turns around because there is another program I'm curious about having a drop off in a couple of years, NDSU.Originally Posted by clenz
The reason I have the theory about that has nothing to do with NDSU losing in the playoffs finally. It has to do with the fact that their President left for a different school, and their competition for recruits are really getting ramped up in the region.
On the president, there has been a witch hunt against the old guy for a while, at least as long as I've lived in Fargo (so at least a year). So that could deter some candidates. Also, talking to NDSU guys, they aren't hopeful for th next guy being hired being a great one for keeping NDSU on the forefront I guess you could say. From what I've gathered that's what caused the dip in the 90's was a bad president and it eventually trickled down. Also the state has been cutting back funding to the schools in ND and they have had to make some good sized cuts. That's never helpful for anything.
As to the regional recruiting, the obvious one is SDSU. Obviously NDSU has a massive advantage for recruiting due to the championships. That's a no brainer. However I don't think it's a coincidence that they became so dominant when the closest FCS school had a stadium that looked like it was a DIII stadium at a glance on their recruiting post cards, meeting rooms in old construction trailers, and locker rooms that were worse than some high schools. Now SDSU has State of the art everything, from their IPF to the stadium to the Dykehouse Student Athlete center. That's has really leveled the playing field between those schools, and SDSU probably has their best recruiting class to date right now (at least it looks like it). Add to it UND moving up and now starting to gain some steam under Bubbles, that adds some more strain, an more importantly, the bigger problem I think is Fleck in UM. At a glance he looks to be using the philosophy that Barry Alvarez used when he built up the Wisky program, recruit your state and region. NDSU (and SDSU) get a lot of MN kids who UM passes over or even sometimes chooses them over the goofs. I don't think that's going to happen for much longer if Fleck gets it rolling in the Twin Cities. SDSU I think might be better equipped to miss out on some MN talent than NDSU because they have started to really pony NE, but I'm curious to see what effect that's going to have. Either way I think those two things combined, and eventually Klieman getting scooped up by a mid level FBS, could cause for a drop off in Fargo. I'm not saying dropping into the cellar, but I would say with teams like ISUr, YSU, and SDSU improving every year it wouldn't take much of a drop off for them to start having 7-4 seasons. That could just be the SDSU fan in me thoughAnyways, what say you folks?
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Do you have sources we don't? AFAIK, DB hasn't been offered the Ohio job. I think they may still have one candidate left to interview; at least they did as of yesterday. So while DB may very well be leaving, it hasn't happened yet and it may not at all.
Hmph, I was given the impression he had taken the job. Welp, that's what I get for not researching what I'm told.
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I don't drink anymore. I don't necessarily drink any less either, though.
I am ED. #FEARME
Go Big, Go Blue, Go JACKS!
Oh where oh where to begin.....you are starting to sound like a UND fan bunny boy! Hoping and praying that NDSU will fall to your level.****ty situation for UNI for sure, don't see how it doesn't cause them to bomb compared to what they normally are. Really hurts the conference when UNI isn't good, hopefully it turns around because there is another program I'm curious about having a drop off in a couple of years, NDSU.
The reason I have the theory about that has nothing to do with NDSU losing in the playoffs finally. It has to do with the fact that their President left for a different school, and their competition for recruits are really getting ramped up in the region.
On the president, there has been a witch hunt against the old guy for a while, at least as long as I've lived in Fargo (so at least a year). So that could deter some candidates. Also, talking to NDSU guys, they aren't hopeful for th next guy being hired being a great one for keeping NDSU on the forefront I guess you could say. From what I've gathered that's what caused the dip in the 90's was a bad president and it eventually trickled down. Also the state has been cutting back funding to the schools in ND and they have had to make some good sized cuts. That's never helpful for anything.
As to the regional recruiting, the obvious one is SDSU. Obviously NDSU has a massive advantage for recruiting due to the championships. That's a no brainer. However I don't think it's a coincidence that they became so dominant when the closest FCS school had a stadium that looked like it was a DIII stadium at a glance on their recruiting post cards, meeting rooms in old construction trailers, and locker rooms that were worse than some high schools. Now SDSU has State of the art everything, from their IPF to the stadium to the Dykehouse Student Athlete center. That's has really leveled the playing field between those schools, and SDSU probably has their best recruiting class to date right now (at least it looks like it). Add to it UND moving up and now starting to gain some steam under Bubbles, that adds some more strain, an more importantly, the bigger problem I think is Fleck in UM. At a glance he looks to be using the philosophy that Barry Alvarez used when he built up the Wisky program, recruit your state and region. NDSU (and SDSU) get a lot of MN kids who UM passes over or even sometimes chooses them over the goofs. I don't think that's going to happen for much longer if Fleck gets it rolling in the Twin Cities. SDSU I think might be better equipped to miss out on some MN talent than NDSU because they have started to really pony NE, but I'm curious to see what effect that's going to have. Either way I think those two things combined, and eventually Klieman getting scooped up by a mid level FBS, could cause for a drop off in Fargo. I'm not saying dropping into the cellar, but I would say with teams like ISUr, YSU, and SDSU improving every year it wouldn't take much of a drop off for them to start having 7-4 seasons. That could just be the SDSU fan in me though
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First of all, DB hasn't left yet but even if he does it won't effect our athletic program much if at all. NDSU has always been underfunded from the state but our AD will be covered by private donors similar to the past 50 years plus.
Secondly, as far as recruiting UND, SDSU and USD will continue to fight for our scraps. Not to mention even if you win some battles along the way it still comes down to developing those players, coaching, execution, etc. You all have a ways to go. Hell look at SDSU's entire D2 record. Wouldn't be shocked to see USD eventually pass you bunny turds along the way to second place behind the Bison.
Third, don't get too attached to the rock as we plan on getting it back this year. It's going to be great taking of Dyk's new house this year.
Finally kicking your ass in the PO's never gets old. Looking forward to another round 2 PO game if you guys happen to make it back to Fargo this year. Knowing you guys you'll probably lay another egg in Missoula this year.
Oh where oh where to begin.....you are starting to sound like a UND fan bunny boy! Hoping and praying that NDSU will fall to your level.
First of all, DB hasn't left yet but even if he does it won't effect our athletic program much if at all. NDSU has always been underfunded from the state but our AD will be covered by private donors similar to the past 50 years plus.
Secondly, as far as recruiting UND, SDSU and USD will continue to fight for our scraps. Not to mention even if you win some battles along the way it still comes down to developing those players, coaching, execution, etc. You all have a ways to go. Hell look at SDSU's entire D2 record. Wouldn't be shocked to see USD eventually pass you bunny turds along the way to second place behind the Bison.
Third, don't get too attached to the rock as we plan on getting it back this year. It's going to be great taking of Dyk's new house this year.
Finally kicking your ass in the PO's never gets old. Looking forward to another round 2 PO game if you guys happen to make it back to Fargo this year. Knowing you guys you'll probably lay another egg in Missoula this year.
I'll give SDSU some credit for being a good FCS program now with some playoff wins. They didn't do jack squat at the D2 level for their whole existence there......IIRC, they had a whole.....1....playoff game as a D2 program.
They do have a nice new stadium by the looks of pictures, it will be nice to see it in person this fall.
I just wish the FargoDome was the original size it was intended to be.....27K......
I know just giving thumper some crap. They have certainly been a much better FCS program.I'll give SDSU some credit for being a good FCS program now with some playoff wins. They didn't do jack squat at the D2 level for their whole existence there......IIRC, they had a whole.....1....playoff game as a D2 program.
They do have a nice new stadium by the looks of pictures, it will be nice to see it in person this fall.
I just wish the FargoDome was the original size it was intended to be.....27K......
I figured that. thumper needs to get a lot of crap....
Some say Cox (LB) and Radunz (OL) are going to make a big impact as RFR....IMO, Cox is starting this fall.
First off I'm not hoping for ****Oh where oh where to begin.....you are starting to sound like a UND fan bunny boy! Hoping and praying that NDSU will fall to your level.
First of all, DB hasn't left yet but even if he does it won't effect our athletic program much if at all. NDSU has always been underfunded from the state but our AD will be covered by private donors similar to the past 50 years plus.
Secondly, as far as recruiting UND, SDSU and USD will continue to fight for our scraps. Not to mention even if you win some battles along the way it still comes down to developing those players, coaching, execution, etc. You all have a ways to go. Hell look at SDSU's entire D2 record. Wouldn't be shocked to see USD eventually pass you bunny turds along the way to second place behind the Bison.
Third, don't get too attached to the rock as we plan on getting it back this year. It's going to be great taking of Dyk's new house this year.
Finally kicking your ass in the PO's never gets old. Looking forward to another round 2 PO game if you guys happen to make it back to Fargo this year. Knowing you guys you'll probably lay another egg in Missoula this year.
Second, sure for now that's accurate about fighting for scraps. As for pointing to D2 I could say the same for NDSU, y'all weren't exactly world beaters when we made the move up. I believe UND was whooping the piss out of you around that time frame, no?
As for the Missoula comment, if SDSU doesn't get a seed this year with the way the schedule falls it will be an utter failure as a program.
Oh and finally, what better way to get a thread rolling around here than to bring up Casey's pizza and ruffle the feathers of the bison? Honestly it's not like I'm calling for losing seasons, just a fall back to reality a bit. In case you haven't noticed, the rest of the subdivision and conference has been improving overall.
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I wouldn't count UNI out just yet. I also wouldn't automatically move SDSU up either.First off I'm not hoping for ****
Second, sure for now that's accurate about fighting for scraps. As for pointing to D2 I could say the same for NDSU, y'all weren't exactly world beaters when we made the move up. I believe UND was whooping the piss out of you around that time frame, no?
As for the Missoula comment, if SDSU doesn't get a seed this year with the way the schedule falls it will be an utter failure as a program.
Oh and finally, what better way to get a thread rolling around here than to bring up Casey's pizza and ruffle the feathers of the bison? Honestly it's not like I'm calling for losing seasons, just a fall back to reality a bit. In case you haven't noticed, the rest of the subdivision and conference has been improving overall.
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No. Just no. They may have won a few more games during the '90s and '00s but they were certainly not "whooping the piss" out of us.
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