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    Re: Most Overrated/Underrated Teams Of The AGS Era

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    That's kind of my point. We, collectively, continue to overvalue the same teams season after season at the beginning of the year, while ignoring teams that prove more often than not we aren't giving them the consideration they deserve. Basically allowing UNI, Delaware, and McNeese (they were the most overrated by a wide margin) to get by on name recognition while continuing to look down on schools like Coastal Carolina, SC State, and Jacksonville State because they aren't from one of the perceived "power" conferences. So these overrated teams we think are worth noticing, more often than not, aren't worth as much as we assume.



    That's true, but if you want preseason polls to be better, you have to recognize trends and work to remove biases. Just ignoring it and chalking it up to "that's how they all are" sounds like the arguments on the Poli board. Haha
    See Cocky's post below.

    I started ranking JSU and Coastal higher after they won a couple of playoff games. The same goes for Fordham and EIU a couple years back after I had a chance to watch them live and see them win against better competition. They actually looked like they belong in the playoffs. As for SCSU, not until the MEAC shows some serious improvement.

    Part of the problem is OOC schedules remaining regional as well as first round playoff games. What's the record of the Big South and MEAC when they are not playing each other or feasting on a down Southern?

    That's why I love seeing Montana play Liberty (feather in the cap to the Big South), Samford playing CAU, SIU and Liberty.

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    Re: Most Overrated/Underrated Teams Of The AGS Era

    Wow Superman, thanks! I was actually thinking of making a request for someone to do this exact analysis at the beginning of the season. Very interesting!

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    Re: Most Overrated/Underrated Teams Of The AGS Era

    Quote Originally Posted by kalm View Post
    See Cocky's post below.

    I started ranking JSU and Coastal higher after they won a couple of playoff games. The same goes for Fordham and EIU a couple years back after I had a chance to watch them live and see them win against better competition. They actually looked like they belong in the playoffs. As for SCSU, not until the MEAC shows some serious improvement.

    Part of the problem is OOC schedules remaining regional as well as first round playoff games. What's the record of the Big South and MEAC when they are not playing each other or feasting on a down Southern?

    That's why I love seeing Montana play Liberty (feather in the cap to the Big South), Samford playing CAU, SIU and Liberty.
    I tend to agree. But I also remember that in 2008 and 2009, SCSU had App on the ropes in Boone during the playoffs. Not a good team to underestimate.

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    Re: Most Overrated/Underrated Teams Of The AGS Era

    SDSU suffers being in same conference and regionalized with NDSU. As a D-1 program, SDSU has been wildly successful relative to the D2 era. But as long as look lumped into "the Dakotas", it's tough to look past the 10 championships of program up north.

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    Illinois St. and EWU are probably the biggest underrated of that bunch IMO. Final rankings allow for teams from the lesser conferences to fight in the playoffs, but as Cocky mentions, you still need to win playoff games to get the national respect. The teams listed as underrated are mostly from non-power FCS conferences, and as such have not fared as well in the playoffs (Coastal Carolina finally broke through recently), but they do well enough within their conferences to rack up wins and get higher rankings as the others like UNI, Delaware, JMU, Furman etc. tend to beat up on each other in their conferences.

    The bias is that at the end of the day, voters are not expecting those teams to challenge for the NC and thus get a lower ranking, perhaps unfairly. If these teams start winning playoff games, the tables will turn. The Overrated teams need to actually meet expectations and win more in the post season as well to match the pre-season hype.

    Ivy League teams - they are victims of scheduling and perhaps some voters not including them due to their lack of participation in the FCS playoffs. They are outliers and not necessarily underrated by fans so much as by the ranking system. We'd all love to see how Harvard would do vs. a Montana, NDSU or JMU team in the post season.

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    Re: Most Overrated/Underrated Teams Of The AGS Era

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidRabbit View Post
    SDSU suffers being in same conference and regionalized with NDSU. As a D-1 program, SDSU has been wildly successful relative to the D2 era. But as long as look lumped into "the Dakotas", it's tough to look past the 10 championships of program up north.
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    Re: Most Overrated/Underrated Teams Of The AGS Era

    Quote Originally Posted by JMU2K_DukeDawg View Post
    Illinois St. and EWU are probably the biggest underrated of that bunch IMO. Final rankings allow for teams from the lesser conferences to fight in the playoffs, but as Cocky mentions, you still need to win playoff games to get the national respect. The teams listed as underrated are mostly from non-power FCS conferences, and as such have not fared as well in the playoffs (Coastal Carolina finally broke through recently), but they do well enough within their conferences to rack up wins and get higher rankings as the others like UNI, Delaware, JMU, Furman etc. tend to beat up on each other in their conferences.

    The bias is that at the end of the day, voters are not expecting those teams to challenge for the NC and thus get a lower ranking, perhaps unfairly. If these teams start winning playoff games, the tables will turn. The Overrated teams need to actually meet expectations and win more in the post season as well to match the pre-season hype.

    Ivy League teams - they are victims of scheduling and perhaps some voters not including them due to their lack of participation in the FCS playoffs. They are outliers and not necessarily underrated by fans so much as by the ranking system. We'd all love to see how Harvard would do vs. a Montana, NDSU or JMU team in the post season.
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    Re: Most Overrated/Underrated Teams Of The AGS Era

    Quote Originally Posted by JMU2K_DukeDawg View Post
    Ivy League teams - they are victims of scheduling and perhaps some voters not including them due to their lack of participation in the FCS playoffs. They are outliers and not necessarily underrated by fans so much as by the ranking system. We'd all love to see how Harvard would do vs. a Montana, NDSU or JMU team in the post season.
    Well put. I wouldn't mind a post-season road trip to any of those places! Not likely to happen in my lifetime, though.
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    Well put. I wouldn't mind a post-season road trip to any of those places! Not likely to happen in my lifetime, though.
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