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    2012 HOF-any 1AA/FCS players

    Announcement came out today.
    Did not see any 1-AA/FCS ballers?
    Is there a seperate ballot?

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    Re: 2012 HOF-any 1AA/FCS players

    Quote Originally Posted by Brad82 View Post
    Announcement came out today.
    Did not see any 1-AA/FCS ballers?
    Is there a seperate ballot?
    Coming May 22.

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    Re: 2012 HOF-any 1AA/FCS players

    do you know who is on the 1-AA ballot?

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    Re: 2012 HOF-any 1AA/FCS players

    Here is the actual list of players from the FCS ranks:

    2012 College Football Hall of Fame FCS Candidates

    Archie Amerson, Northern Arizona, RB, 1995-96
    Rennie Benn, Lehigh, WR, 1982-85
    Carl Boyd, Northern Iowa, RB, 1985-87
    Joe Campbell, Middle Tennessee State, RB, 1988-91
    Bruce Collie, Texas-Arlington, OT, 1980-84
    Case deBruijn, Idaho State, P, 1978-81
    John Dorsey, Connecticut, LB, 1980-83
    Tom Erhardt, Rhode Island, QB, 1984-85
    Curtis Eller, Villanova, LB, 1989-92
    Richard Erenberg, Colgate, RB, 1980-83
    Don Griffin, Middle Tennessee State, S, 1982-85
    Don Hass, Montana State, RB, 1965-67
    Conway Hayman, Delaware, OG, 1967-70
    John Hill, Lehigh, C, 1969-71
    John Huard, Maine, LB, 1964-66
    Rene Ingoglia, Massachusetts, RB, 1992-95
    Garry Kuhlman, Delaware, OT, 1979-81
    Steve McAdoo, Middle Tennessee State, OL, 1989-92
    Bill McGovern, Holy Cross, DB, 1981-84
    Robert Morris, Georgetown, DE, 1971-74
    John Ogles, Austin Peay State, FB, 1963-66
    Chris Parker, Marshall, RB, 1992-95
    Michael Payton, Marshall, QB, 1989-92
    Martin Peterson, Penn, OT, 1984-86
    Charlie Pierce, Central Florida, P/PK, 1993-96
    Michael Renna, Delaware, DE, 1987-89
    Kirk Roach, Western Carolina, PK, 1984-87
    Terry Schmidt, Ball State, DB, 1971-73
    Larry Schreiber, Tennessee Tech, RB, 1966-69
    Steve Schubert, Massachusetts, WR, 1969-72
    Joe Skladany, Lafayette, LB, 1978-81
    Leonard Smith, McNeese State, CB, 1979-82
    Tom Stenglein, Colgate, WR, 1983-85
    Freddie Thomas, Troy State, DB, 1984-87
    Markus Thomas, Eastern Kentucky, TB, 1989-92
    Billy Thompson, Maryland-Eastern Shore, DB, 1965-68
    Lee White, Weber State, Fullback, 1965-67
    John Zanieski, Yale, MG, 1982-84

    The ballot is broken down in some stupid ways. Charlie Gogolak of Princeton and Dick Jauron of Yale are listed with the FBS players, but other school's players who played in the 1960s and 70s are listed with the FCS players. It is quite poorly done and even after our votes are tallied, there is a committee that still has to approve who gets in, or not. But at least the Football Writers Association is given the right to vote.

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    Re: 2012 HOF-any 1AA/FCS players

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. C View Post
    Here is the actual list of players from the FCS ranks:

    2012 College Football Hall of Fame FCS Candidates

    Archie Amerson, Northern Arizona, RB, 1995-96
    Rennie Benn, Lehigh, WR, 1982-85
    Carl Boyd, Northern Iowa, RB, 1985-87
    Joe Campbell, Middle Tennessee State, RB, 1988-91
    Bruce Collie, Texas-Arlington, OT, 1980-84
    Case deBruijn, Idaho State, P, 1978-81
    John Dorsey, Connecticut, LB, 1980-83
    Tom Erhardt, Rhode Island, QB, 1984-85
    Curtis Eller, Villanova, LB, 1989-92
    Richard Erenberg, Colgate, RB, 1980-83
    Don Griffin, Middle Tennessee State, S, 1982-85
    Don Hass, Montana State, RB, 1965-67
    Conway Hayman, Delaware, OG, 1967-70
    John Hill, Lehigh, C, 1969-71
    John Huard, Maine, LB, 1964-66
    Rene Ingoglia, Massachusetts, RB, 1992-95
    Garry Kuhlman, Delaware, OT, 1979-81
    Steve McAdoo, Middle Tennessee State, OL, 1989-92
    Bill McGovern, Holy Cross, DB, 1981-84
    Robert Morris, Georgetown, DE, 1971-74
    John Ogles, Austin Peay State, FB, 1963-66
    Chris Parker, Marshall, RB, 1992-95
    Michael Payton, Marshall, QB, 1989-92
    Martin Peterson, Penn, OT, 1984-86
    Charlie Pierce, Central Florida, P/PK, 1993-96
    Michael Renna, Delaware, DE, 1987-89
    Kirk Roach, Western Carolina, PK, 1984-87
    Terry Schmidt, Ball State, DB, 1971-73
    Larry Schreiber, Tennessee Tech, RB, 1966-69
    Steve Schubert, Massachusetts, WR, 1969-72
    Joe Skladany, Lafayette, LB, 1978-81
    Leonard Smith, McNeese State, CB, 1979-82
    Tom Stenglein, Colgate, WR, 1983-85
    Freddie Thomas, Troy State, DB, 1984-87
    Markus Thomas, Eastern Kentucky, TB, 1989-92
    Billy Thompson, Maryland-Eastern Shore, DB, 1965-68
    Lee White, Weber State, Fullback, 1965-67
    John Zanieski, Yale, MG, 1982-84

    The ballot is broken down in some stupid ways. Charlie Gogolak of Princeton and Dick Jauron of Yale are listed with the FBS players, but other school's players who played in the 1960s and 70s are listed with the FCS players. It is quite poorly done and even after our votes are tallied, there is a committee that still has to approve who gets in, or not. But at least the Football Writers Association is given the right to vote.
    Not so sure about Stenglein, but Erenberg was the real deal, and he did amazing things against some very good teams, as Colgate played very tough schedules in those years. I hope he gets in.

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    Re: 2012 HOF-any 1AA/FCS players

    As a College Football Hall of Fame voter, the ballot I get has all of the names for the various categories. You get to vote for a bunch of FBS guys and then are limited to two each from FCS, D-II, D-III and NAIA. You also get to vote for two coaches from the "Small Schools" ranks. There is much about how the ballot is done and the way the National Football Foundation promotes things that I have been on public record as opposing. It is almost like the "Small Schools" guys are second-class citizens in the NFF's eyes. I'll probably write about who I voted for and why later this week on the College Sports Journal website. It was tough just voting for two FCS players this year and two FCS coaches. There were three coaches I wanted to vote for and several more players.

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    Re: 2012 HOF-any 1AA/FCS players

    How Dave Dickenson has been forgotten by the College Football HOF is beyond me. 5676 yards passing, 56 TDs passing in his senior season, and led the Griz to the I-AA national championship (passing for 1500 yards during the playoffs alone)--while playing an average of 2.5 quarters per game because the Griz were almost always way out in front (I checked the game logs--he really did only average 2.5 quarters per game in 1995).

    For his career, he completed 1,015 of 1,477 passes (68.7%) for 13,486 yards, with 116 touchdowns and only 26 interceptions, and was responsible for 137 total touchdowns (116 passing and 21 rushing).

    Three time All-American. Payton Winner.

    Travesty.

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    Re: 2012 HOF-any 1AA/FCS players

    Quote Originally Posted by CrunchGriz View Post
    How Dave Dickenson has been forgotten by the College Football HOF is beyond me. 5676 yards passing, 56 TDs passing in his senior season, and led the Griz to the I-AA national championship (passing for 1500 yards during the playoffs alone)--while playing an average of 2.5 quarters per game because the Griz were almost always way out in front (I checked the game logs--he really did only average 2.5 quarters per game in 1995).

    For his career, he completed 1,015 of 1,477 passes (68.7%) for 13,486 yards, with 116 touchdowns and only 26 interceptions, and was responsible for 137 total touchdowns (116 passing and 21 rushing).

    Three time All-American. Payton Winner.

    Travesty.
    Totally agree that he should be in there, but I recall hearing that a player isn't eligible for a certain amount of time after they finish their career, and that includes a pro career. Does anyone know if this is true, and if so, how long must a player wait to become eligible?
    Sometimes it's better to be lucky than it is to be good.

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    Re: 2012 HOF-any 1AA/FCS players

    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Rico's Clan View Post
    Totally agree that he should be in there, but I recall hearing that a player isn't eligible for a certain amount of time after they finish their career, and that includes a pro career. Does anyone know if this is true, and if so, how long must a player wait to become eligible?
    I'd forgotten about the waiting period. If he's still in such a waiting period, I take it back--unless he's snubbed after the waiting period.

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