Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 21

Thread: Yale Daily News opinion piece - Yale sports sinking into mediocrity

Hybrid View

Previous Post Previous Post   Next Post Next Post
  1. #1
    AGS FCS Champion bulldog10jw's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Location
    Florence
    Posts
    8,047

    Yale Daily News opinion piece - Yale sports sinking into mediocrity

    http://www.yaledailynews.com/news/20...on-mediocrity/

    Since the 1993-1994 academic year, Yale has won 51 Ivy League titles. In that time, only Columbia at 33 and Dartmouth with 39 have claimed fewer. That year coincides with the start of a move by Yale University administration to reduce the number of recruited student-athletes. According to a Sept. 2010 interview with University President Richard Levin in the Yale Alumni Magazine, the Levin administration has reduced the number of recruited athletes from 17 percent of the Yale’s student body to 13 percent. Levin told the magazine he wants that number to go down even more. For those few slots Yale coaches are allotted for athletes, recruiting gets harder and harder as coaches’ hands are tied not only with stringent restrictions, but also by the obvious gap in Yale’s commitment to support its athletes when compared with other schools. Simply put, it won’t be long before we don’t stand a chance.

  2. #2
    AGS CRIMSON COUNSELOR Ivytalk's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Location
    Delaware
    Posts
    16,354

    Re: Yale Daily News opinion piece - Yale sports sinking into mediocrity

    Total bummer. Haven't seen any comparable interviews with Harvard's Drew Faust, but I don't think her view of athletics is any different from Levin's.
    Harvard 2023: Back in the saddle again! A bit crowded, though.

  3. #3
    AGS FCS Champion Pard4Life's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    My Team
    Lafayette
    Location
    PA
    Posts
    7,368

    Re: Yale Daily News opinion piece - Yale sports sinking into mediocrity

    Ha! Lafayette has been way ahead of you guys... we are ahead of the Ivy at something!

    Too bad because sports is the backdoor entry into the IL.

    Courtesy of UNHWildCats


    "Win, but be careful not to win too much. It's not healthy for our institution." - Lafayette Athletics Mission Statement

    "And [Bucknell] is a big game because?" - flyfisher

    "Because it's what we have. You want bigger, buy a s#!t brown sweatshirt with Chicken Squawks on the front."
    - carney2

  4. #4
    AGS FCS Champion Cleets's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    My Team
    The Front Runner
    Location
    Redmond WA.
    Posts
    9,670

    Re: Yale Daily News opinion piece - Yale sports sinking into mediocrity

    Powerful athletic programs do corrupt institutions of higher learning
    Coaches get too uppity - pressure is applied throughout the balance of the administration and the compromises begin...
    As the monster known as college athletics slowly consumes the America university system (school after school) and corruption drizzles into every corner of the infected administrations it's nice to see Yale stand for something other than TV deals and side-stepping the recruiting process



    Alphagriz: "Ursus is the Kate Upton of AGS..."

  5. #5
    AGS FCS Champion
    bonarae's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    My Team
    Harvard, ETSU, St. Thomas, UC Davis, Chicago, MIT
    Location
    The other side of the globe
    Posts
    16,552

    Re: Yale Daily News opinion piece - Yale sports sinking into mediocrity

    Quote Originally Posted by Cleets View Post
    Powerful athletic programs do corrupt institutions of higher learning
    Coaches get too uppity - pressure is applied throughout the balance of the administration and the compromises begin...
    As the monster known as college athletics slowly consumes the America university system (school after school) and corruption drizzles into every corner of the infected administrations it's nice to see Yale stand for something other than TV deals and side-stepping the recruiting process
    I agree, unfortunately. Yale is trying to put back the trust in the athletics system, as it has been years before.

    In my own words...

    Oh no. This somewhat makes sense considering that ONLY 5 FBS/BCS schools are truly academic-oriented according to a Northwestern-sponsored panel with two media writers recently: Northwestern, Vanderbilt, Notre Dame, Stanford, Duke. (actually the words of Pete Thamel as he spoke in the panel)

    But reducing the number of recruited student-athletes in the student body is the WRONG thing to do. Is Yale's president trying to extend admissions standards for regular students into student-athletes as well, forgetting the AI altogether? Seems that he has been trying to do such.
    Will FCS football survive the mess created by the NIL saga?

    ---
    AGS Countdown Maven since 2019
    AGS Schedule Maven since 2022

  6. #6
    AGS FCS Champion DFW HOYA's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2003
    Location
    Dallas, TX
    Posts
    10,091

    Re: Yale Daily News opinion piece - Yale sports sinking into mediocrity

    Quote Originally Posted by bonarae View Post
    In my own words...This somewhat makes sense considering that ONLY 5 FBS/BCS schools are truly academic-oriented according to a Northwestern-sponsored panel with two media writers recently: Northwestern, Vanderbilt, Notre Dame, Stanford, Duke. (actually the words of Pete Thamel as he spoke in the panel)
    Within the BCS, Wake Forest and the Academies are right there as well. Wake doesn't get the Vitale-worship, but it's not far behind that of Vandy or Duke.

    Outside the BCS, don't forget Rice.
    Georgetown: "We play where we do not compete, and compete where we do not play."

  7. #7
    On the Breast of Old South Mountain
    ngineer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2004
    My Team
    Lehigh
    Location
    Lehigh Valley, PA
    Posts
    21,548

    Re: Yale Daily News opinion piece - Yale sports sinking into mediocrity

    Quote Originally Posted by DFW HOYA View Post
    Within the BCS, Wake Forest and the Academies are right there as well. Wake doesn't get the Vitale-worship, but it's not far behind that of Vandy or Duke.

    Outside the BCS, don't forget Rice.
    Agreed on your additions. There are a few that still try and have the priorities right.
    LEHIGH WILL SHINE TONIGHT, LEHIGH WILL SHINE!
    Patriot League Champions: 1993, 1995, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2004, 2006, 2010, 2011, 2016, 2017
    NCAA Playoff Appearances: D-II 1973, 1975, 1977 NCAA Champions
    D-IAA 1979 (Finalist), 1980, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2004, 2010, 2011, 2016, 2017

  8. #8
    AGS FCS Champion Go...gate's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2005
    My Team
    Colgate
    Location
    Far from thy valley....
    Posts
    13,802

    Re: Yale Daily News opinion piece - Yale sports sinking into mediocrity

    Saddens me a bit to read this because I remember when the Ivies were much, much more powerful in so many sports.

  9. #9
    AGS FCS Champion Lehigh Football Nation's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    Murray Goodman Stadium
    Posts
    22,612

    Re: Yale Daily News opinion piece - Yale sports sinking into mediocrity

    1) How can you draw yourself into answering a question you posed yourself?

    2) What is this but a rah-rah piece with one "fact" pulled from the alumni magazine (Levin has reduced the number of student-athletes) and a whole lot of misinformed nonsense?

    Yale isn't headed to Division III.

    Yale is "non-scholarship"? It has more athletes competing on financial aid than Stanford.

    Building a good athletic program at Yale is a challenge? With that endowment? The Yale global brand? And, failing that, the Yale Bowl? It's most decidedly less of a challenge that building a good program at, well, anywhere else. (Georgetown. Multi-sport field.)

    "The fact that Yale athletes are accomplishing the Herculean task of overcoming their comparative disadvantage while maintaining high standards academically is evidence enough of their efforts?" Excuse me while I puke in a corner. Herculean? Really? This program which fielded a Nebraska transfer QB last year?

    Reading this is kind of like Mitt Romney asking me to empathize with him because he has to pay taxes and hire illegal immigrants to take care of his three mansions.
    Follow me on Twitter (User Name LFN)

    The
    Time
    Is
    Now

  10. #10
    AGS FCS Champion Cleets's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    My Team
    The Front Runner
    Location
    Redmond WA.
    Posts
    9,670

    Re: Yale Daily News opinion piece - Yale sports sinking into mediocrity

    Quote Originally Posted by Lehigh Football Nation View Post
    1) How can you draw yourself into answering a question you posed yourself?

    2) What is this but a rah-rah piece with one "fact" pulled from the alumni magazine (Levin has reduced the number of student-athletes) and a whole lot of misinformed nonsense?

    Yale isn't headed to Division III.

    Yale is "non-scholarship"? It has more athletes competing on financial aid than Stanford.

    Building a good athletic program at Yale is a challenge? With that endowment? The Yale global brand? And, failing that, the Yale Bowl? It's most decidedly less of a challenge that building a good program at, well, anywhere else. (Georgetown. Multi-sport field.)

    "The fact that Yale athletes are accomplishing the Herculean task of overcoming their comparative disadvantage while maintaining high standards academically is evidence enough of their efforts?" Excuse me while I puke in a corner. Herculean? Really? This program which fielded a Nebraska transfer QB last year?

    Reading this is kind of like Mitt Romney asking me to empathize with him because he has to pay taxes and hire illegal immigrants to take care of his three mansions.

    Hey Shhh....
    You interrupted me while I was busy feeling sorry for Yale
    Alphagriz: "Ursus is the Kate Upton of AGS..."

Similar Threads

  1. Yale: Watch Today’s Football Press Conference LIVE on Yale All-Access
    By News from the FCS in forum Ivy League News
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: January 12th, 2012, 08:50 AM
  2. Yale: Ticket and Parking Information for Yale-Harvard Game Announced
    By News from the FCS in forum Ivy League News
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: October 28th, 2011, 12:00 PM
  3. Yale: Fourth-Quarter Comeback Leads Penn Past Yale, 37-25
    By News from the FCS in forum Ivy League News
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: October 22nd, 2011, 09:00 PM
  4. Yale: Watch Yale-Dartmouth Football Live Exclusively on Yale All-Access
    By News from the FCS in forum Ivy League News
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: October 7th, 2011, 09:20 AM
  5. Replies: 0
    Last Post: August 11th, 2010, 07:35 PM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •