Re: Patriot League 2018 - way way way to early
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Go Lehigh TU owl
Georgetown upgraded McDonough for bball and made some modest improvements to the MSF. So instead of the worst facility in FCS they now have the 4th or 5th worst.
No upgrades have been made to McDonough Gymnasium, which has not been renovated since it opened 66 years ago. It has a still has a phone booth in the lobby, if that says anything. The basketball practice facility was seven years late, which in Georgetown-time means that it was fast-tracked.
I am unaware of the "modest improvements" at the MSF you suggest, unless they replaced the gravel. The endless churn over construction is scheduled to do something in 2018, but the plans have been downgraded significantly and it may be underwhelming when all is said and done. And that scoreboard? It's the same one from the soccer field circa 1994:
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Re: Patriot League 2018 - way way way to early
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Originally Posted by
DFW HOYA
No upgrades have been made to McDonough Gymnasium, which has not been renovated since it opened 66 years ago. It has a still has a phone booth in the lobby, if that says anything. The basketball practice facility was seven years late, which in Georgetown-time means that it was fast-tracked.
I am unaware of the "modest improvements" at the MSF you suggest, unless they replaced the gravel. The endless churn over construction is scheduled to do something in 2018, but the plans have been downgraded significantly and it may be underwhelming when all is said and done. And that scoreboard? It's the same one from the soccer field circa 1994:
https://georgetowner.com/wp-content/...034995-945.jpg
It must be the practice facility that I'm thinking of. I thought McDonough was being renovated to become that. From what I gather it will be adjacent to McDonough.
The only modest improvements I thought of were the masonry work and fence that's near the entrance to the MSF.
Re: Patriot League 2018 - way way way to early
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Go Lehigh TU owl
The only modest improvements I thought of were the masonry work and fence that's near the entrance to the MSF.
The masonry was part of the now-abandoned 2004 design.
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Re: Patriot League 2018 - way way way to early
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Lehigh'98
I don't think that's how it was working. Bott still had a lot of influence on the defense. Not sure who was calling the schemes. I think they should clean house personally, but doesn't seem like Coen really wants to. Kind of disappointing. We've seen enough the last 4-5 yrs to know major changes are needed.
From what I heard there was a gap between young and old that didnt help in getting a cohesive text to players.( Not my words but I paraphrase). No idea the dynamics inside D staff. I do think Sutyak will be a good DC. He deserves a shot at being the DC not just the kid with the title.
Re: Patriot League 2018 - way way way to early
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Go Lehigh TU owl
I completely agree. I know Roberts has been with the program forever but even his time should come imo. The DL play has been terrible far too long because of terrible recruiting. At some point he has to be held accountable. Or at least I would hope...
Roberts has been there a very long time, back even when I was playing. He's a great guy, so is coach Bott an Coen is very close to most of his staff. I don't think we will get the shakeup needed from him at this point. I think Joe needs to step in here. Fixing the defense doesn't seem like a quick and easy fix, but the first step would be getting a proven, motivated coach in there that can recruit. Not sure what the salary is, but it's probably time to dig a deeper in the pockets.
Re: Patriot League 2018 - way way way to early
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RichH2
From what I heard there was a gap between young and old that didnt help in getting a cohesive text to players.( Not my words but I paraphrase). No idea the dynamics inside D staff. I do think Sutyak will be a good DC. He deserves a shot at being the DC not just the kid with the title.
Bott called the defense the first half of season. Sutyak second. I just disagree here though, I don't think Sutyak is the answer and we are wasting even more time gathering more evidence.
Re: Patriot League 2018 - way way way to early
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DFW HOYA
They started it, they just didn't finish it....
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Re: Patriot League 2018 - way way way to early
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Originally Posted by
Lehigh'98
Roberts has been there a very long time, back even when I was playing. He's a great guy, so is coach Bott an Coen is very close to most of his staff. I don't think we will get the shakeup needed from him at this point. I think Joe needs to step in here. Fixing the defense doesn't seem like a quick and easy fix, but the first step would be getting a proven, motivated coach in there that can recruit. Not sure what the salary is, but it's probably time to dig a deeper in the pockets.
Given the fact the defense has reached a level of historic ineptitude I can't believe there isn't more urgency to fix it. Coen has always been slow to move on coaches which is clearly a major flaw. I wish I was a fly on the wall when the whole Coen-Troy Brown-Dave Cecchini OC deal went down after the 2009 season. I feel like Sterrett stepped in that time and really forced Coen's hand after 3 straight losing seasons.
Re: Patriot League 2018 - way way way to early
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Originally Posted by
Lehigh'98
Bott called the defense the first half of season. Sutyak second. I just disagree here though, I don't think Sutyak is the answer and we are wasting even more time gathering more evidence.
Perhaps. Agree Sutyak as yet an unk own quantitiy.
What is the option? A new experienced DC with a track record and staff. You're right. For that to even be feasible Joe is going to need money.
Dont think it is a real choice right now. I dont know what will work here but I agree D has to get out of this abyss of terrible results year after year.
Re: Patriot League 2018 - way way way to early
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RichH2
Not sure which scheduling policy is better for our programs. Personally I think scheduling up is essential to build a stronger program. I do not mean bodybag money games. Top FCS, the Academies and occasional G5 games. The most notable benefit for a team is increased game speed for the players. One thing I have noticed over the years is that ,while Ivies bring in a raft of highly touted recruits, few of them actually develop further. A large part of that failure is Ivy insular scheduling.
In order to improve players need to be challenged by better faster talent. It gives players a real frame of reference for how good they are now and what they need to do to improve.
Very true. Games with UNH, Villanova and JMU are great measuring sticks and can only motivate to get better. Ever since the wrestling team has devoted more $$$ to recruiting the "room" has gotten much deeper in talent and the results are starting to show with this year's team ranked #5 in the country--with the 'big boys', not just FCS type schools. Competition only makes the truly motivated athlete better.