Georgia State Falls for the Big Lie that Refuses to Die
http://www.college-sports-journal.co...refuses-to-die
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Looking back, it probably shouldn't have been such a surprise that Georgia State's stay in FCS would be short, even though they were full members of the CAA in all sports.
The writing had to be on the wall in February, when a gushing feasibility report by Georgia State business school grad Russell White all but told Georgia State to jettison the Colonial Athletic Association, home of the toughest football conference in all of FCS, and join the conference that had been their home before, the Sun Belt.
In the whirlwind courtship that was Georgia State's wooing by the Sun Belt, they were promised it all - more money, more "exposure", prestigious bowls.
In other words, they were seduced by the Big Lie that refuses to die.
The "joys" of Sun Belt membership - spelled out in gory detail.
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The bowl games will almost certainly involve the GoDaddy.Com Bowl instead of the Fiesta Bowl, the ESPN games are almost always on Tuesday night, not Saturday nights, and you end up opening up a spending arms race that doesn't really result in the type money that you're hoping to generate for your program.
This is very true (the whole article) but it's also true that FCS schools get even less exposure and smaller TV audiences than non-BCS FBS. It's like a Chihuahua making fun of a German Shepard because he's not as big as a Mastiff.
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First things first. If I'm going to lose money anyway ,even in FCS, I might as well do it in the Sunbelt where I can get million dollar guarantees and play on ESPN instead of public television.
Second, i think the Commish is trying to change the way the Sunbelt does business. By adding larger state schools located in large markets the SBC can negotiate better TV deals meaning more revenue for members. In addition, schools like GSU who play in large stadiums can negotiate home at home games with BCS schools (see UTSA sched) which traditional SBC schools who played at smaller venues couldn't accommodate. Who here doubts that Curry won't get Kentucky to come to Atl to play in the dome? Or NC State or Illinois or Navy? Thats an easier road trip than say, L-lafayette. As far as basketball how great will the CAA be when GMU VCU bolt?
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realgsu
First things first. If I'm going to lose money anyway ,even in FCS, I might as well do it in the Sunbelt where I can get million dollar guarantees and play on ESPN instead of public television.
Second, i think the Commish is trying to change the way the Sunbelt does business. By adding larger state schools located in large markets the SBC can negotiate better TV deals meaning more revenue for members. In addition, schools like GSU who play in large stadiums can negotiate home at home games with BCS schools (see UTSA sched) which traditional SBC schools who played at smaller venues couldn't accommodate. Who here doubts that Curry won't get Kentucky to come to Atl to play in the dome? Or NC State or Illinois or Navy? Thats an easier road trip than say, L-lafayette. As far as basketball how great will the CAA be when GMU VCU bolt?
Curry has a year left, 2 tops.
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Originally Posted by
JSUBison
Curry has a year left, 2 tops.
Seeing as how he isn't renewing his contract, it's 1 year.
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Originally Posted by
realgsu
First things first. If I'm going to lose money anyway ,even in FCS, I might as well do it in the Sunbelt where I can get million dollar guarantees and play on ESPN instead of public television.
Second, i think the Commish is trying to change the way the Sunbelt does business. By adding larger state schools located in large markets the SBC can negotiate better TV deals meaning more revenue for members. In addition, schools like GSU who play in large stadiums can negotiate home at home games with BCS schools (see UTSA sched) which traditional SBC schools who played at smaller venues couldn't accommodate. Who here doubts that Curry won't get Kentucky to come to Atl to play in the dome? Or NC State or Illinois or Navy? Thats an easier road trip than say, L-lafayette. As far as basketball how great will the CAA be when GMU VCU bolt?
I don't think it is fully understood that those BCS teams don't do H&H's with the outsiders in FBS. I think it is usually a 2 or 3 away to 1 home game if it even happens then. That may not necessarily be a bad deal for Ga State though cuz they might not be raking it in with low attendance anyway so why not be road warriors to gain a big game at home.
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ursus arctos horribilis
I don't think it is fully understood that those BCS teams don't do H&H's with the outsiders in FBS. I think it is usually a 2 or 3 away to 1 home game if it even happens then. That may not necessarily be a bad deal for Ga State though cuz they might not be raking it in with low attendance anyway so why not be road warriors to gain a big game at home.
Actually quite a few Sunbelt teams have 2 for 1 deals with BCS teams. It's not uncommon at all.
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The Eagle's Cliff
This is very true (the whole article) but it's also true that FCS schools get even less exposure and smaller TV audiences than non-BCS FBS. It's like a Chihuahua making fun of a German Shepard because he's not as big as a Mastiff.
Most honest post that'll be listed in this thread.
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Originally Posted by
realgsu
First things first. If I'm going to lose money anyway ,even in FCS, I might as well do it in the Sunbelt where I can get million dollar guarantees and play on ESPN instead of public television.
Second, i think the Commish is trying to change the way the Sunbelt does business. By adding larger state schools located in large markets the SBC can negotiate better TV deals meaning more revenue for members. In addition, schools like GSU who play in large, empty stadiums can negotiate home at home games with BCS schools (see UTSA sched) which traditional SBC schools who played at smaller venues couldn't accommodate. Who here doubts that Curry won't get Kentucky to come to Atl to play in the dome? ME Or NC State or Illinois or Navy? Thats an easier road trip than say, L-lafayette. As far as basketball how great will the CAA be when GMU VCU bolt?
FIFY. No doubt the Sunbelt is better than FCS for Ga State, but Ga State still has a long way to go to prove they can build a donating fan base with decent attendance and a quality product on the field. Again, UAB is THE school Ga State needs to compare itself to in terms of where it stacks up in it's home state with fans and supporters. Being in Atlanta is a plus for geography and market size (State has little to no market-share compared to UGA and Tech), but is probably a minus in terms of Atlanta being the worst sports city in the US because half the population is from somewhere else, the campus is in the ghetto, there will be no "local or regional pride" in the hometown school like East Carolina, Southern Miss, Middle Tennessee, Marshall or even FCS schools like App St, Ga Southern, James Madison, and Old Dominion. Charlotte will have an easier time than Ga State making headway in NC with Football because there's no real fever for UNC, Duke, or NC State like there is for Alabama, Georgia, LSU, Tennessee, and Florida.
State is trying to be an impressive Chimp while standing right next to the 800 lb Gorilla and the 400 lb Gorilla.
Good Luck though. I'm really hoping Curry can get his Ga State record above .500 by the time the transition is complete, but I predict 2-6 in the CAA and 1-2 OOC to bring the 3-year tally to 12-21.
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realgsu
First things first. If I'm going to lose money anyway ,even in FCS, I might as well do it in the Sunbelt where I can get million dollar guarantees and play on ESPN instead of public television.
Second, i think the Commish is trying to change the way the Sunbelt does business. By adding larger state schools located in large markets the SBC can negotiate better TV deals meaning more revenue for members. In addition, schools like GSU who play in large stadiums can negotiate home at home games with BCS schools (see UTSA sched) which traditional SBC schools who played at smaller venues couldn't accommodate. Who here doubts that Curry won't get Kentucky to come to Atl to play in the dome? Or NC State or Illinois or Navy? Thats an easier road trip than say, L-lafayette. As far as basketball how great will the CAA be when GMU VCU bolt?
Sunbelt schools don't get Million Dollar guarantees....