Re: Round of eight: CCU @ N Dak. State
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Originally Posted by
bisonboone11
I really don't understand your basis for this. The only team that NDSU has played this year with a lower time of possession than CCU is Indiana State. Don't get me wrong, CCU is obviously a good team, and they will put up a fight, but what makes you think they will suddenly become so much better at TOP than they have been all season?
TOP is a meaningless stat for us. We usually can score fairly quickly so TOP isn't really indicative of our performance.
Re: Round of eight: CCU @ N Dak. State
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Originally Posted by
rokamortis
TOP is a meaningless stat for us. We usually can score fairly quickly so TOP isn't really indicative of our performance.
So you have a deep defense that won't get wore down? We can expect you to put up points for 4 quarters? What happens if the big plays don't happen for you? Can you take what we give and drive 80 yards in 2 minutes and punch it in when the game is on the line? Has CC had any come from behind wins this year? I mean last minute game winning drives? Honest questions...I don't know.
Re: Round of eight: CCU @ N Dak. State
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Originally Posted by
rokamortis
TOP is a meaningless stat for us. We usually can score fairly quickly so TOP isn't really indicative of our performance.
Yeah, I get that. Obviously you guys have put up a lot of points and haven't needed much time to do it. I was just addressing SeattleGriz because he said NDSU wouldn't hold the ball nearly as much as they usually do.
Re: Round of eight: CCU @ N Dak. State
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Originally Posted by
SeattleGriz
The fact that SDSU put up a whole measly 17 points against EWU and EWU put up 41 on them while pretty much running the ball the whole second half.
Didn't NDSU only put 20 on SDSU?
Thought so.
That and NIU only put, what 26 on Northern Colorado?
While the Big South and the Big Sky are not the same, the MVFC has proven they are not an offensive league.
Easy to run up the score on teams that keep running into the strength on one's defense.
You neglect to take into consideration the fact that the weather played a huge role in that game. Field conditions were horrible due rain and a HS game the night before. NDSU dominated SDSU from start to finish.
SDSU was in the game against EWU and if it weren't for the 4th Qtr Turnovers it could've been a different game. Taking nothing away from EWU, they made the game what it was. But holding Zenner to 4 yards is something that hasn't happened and Sumner was ineffective. EWU's results vs SDSU does not equal NDSU's result vs SDSU.
Re: Round of eight: CCU @ N Dak. State
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Originally Posted by
Bisonator
So you have a deep defense that won't get wore down? We can expect you to put up points for 4 quarters? What happens if the big plays don't happen for you? Can you take what we give and drive 80 yards in 2 minutes and punch it in when the game is on the line? Has CC had any come from behind wins this year? I mean last minute game winning drives? Honest questions...I don't know.
I have no idea how we'll perform against you guys - the best FCS team in the country - but against our schedule:
With a few exceptions, we've been able to put up points for 4 quarters. We are a pretty balanced offense and usually will be able to take what the defense gives and can move the ball.
Our defense typically starts off slow but is well conditioned and outlasts the other team late in the game. We've had to come from behind, most notably tying Liberty late in the game and winning in 2OT.
The CSU game I see as what you will try to do and sounds like your typical game plan anyway - our offense came out slow and our defense played like the normally do. So we were in a hole at halftime. In the second half we started to put up points but our D couldn't get the necessary stops so CSU just grinded the clock and we couldn't get the ball to score. When we did get a turnover we couldn't convert that into points. I think we learned from that game but implementing it against you guys will be tough.
Re: Round of eight: CCU @ N Dak. State
Lets put it this way. I have no doubt that CC and their fans will have a very different opinion of theirs and NDSU's quality at the end of this game.
They really won't know what hit them.
Why do I say that? Because teams with significantly better resumes all say that exact same thing.
Re: Round of eight: CCU @ N Dak. State
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Originally Posted by
rokamortis
TOP is a meaningless stat for us. We usually can score fairly quickly so TOP isn't really indicative of our performance.
Took a look back at the Furman game and Yes, Furman had the ball longer and CCU won. I doubt the coaches and team will under estimate your team like some Bison fans have been. Wins against 4 playoff teams so far too.
Re: Round of eight: CCU @ N Dak. State
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Originally Posted by
NoDak 4 Ever
Lets put it this way. I have no doubt that CC and their fans will have a very different opinion of theirs and NDSU's quality at the end of this game.
They really won't know what hit them.
Why do I say that? Because teams with significantly better resumes all say that exact same thing.
I don't think anyone is underestimating your team. We are a decent team with some warts, you are the best team in FCS.
Re: Round of eight: CCU @ N Dak. State
Agree with Rok. I don't think anyone is underestimating your team. I think some people might be underestimating CCU though.
I did not read through this whole thread, but looking at your team's season stats, I believe I saw 16 fumbles, 10 of which were lost. Has that been an ongoing issue, or was it 2 or 3 bad games that inflated the numbers?
For comparison, CCU has had 12 fumbles and lost 5 of them in 14 games.
In a game like this, like last week, penalties and turnovers will be huge for CCU. I am just looking at more numbers and I see the turnover battle is CCU: 13(8 INTs and 5 fumbles) and No Dak St: 16 (6 INTs and 10 fumbles). From a penalty perspective CCU: 6/game for 53 yards, and No Dak St: 5/game for 42.
Re: Round of eight: CCU @ N Dak. State
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Originally Posted by
rokamortis
I have no idea how we'll perform against you guys - the best FCS team in the country - but against our schedule:
With a few exceptions, we've been able to put up points for 4 quarters. We are a pretty balanced offense and usually will be able to take what the defense gives and can move the ball.
Our defense typically starts off slow but is well conditioned and outlasts the other team late in the game. We've had to come from behind, most notably tying Liberty late in the game and winning in 2OT.
The CSU game I see as what you will try to do and sounds like your typical game plan anyway - our offense came out slow and our defense played like the normally do. So we were in a hole at halftime. In the second half we started to put up points but our D couldn't get the necessary stops so CSU just grinded the clock and we couldn't get the ball to score. When we did get a turnover we couldn't convert that into points. I think we learned from that game but implementing it against you guys will be tough.
Thanks. Looking forward to this game it should be a good one!