Appalachian State @ The Citadel - Game Thread

[asumike83]

It is mid-week and unless I missed it, there is not yet a thread for this game. I like ASU to bounce back after a bye week having already faced a more potent triple option to learn from. Having 3 defensive starters back in the line-up should further stabilize the defense. The QB situation is up in the air but it sounds like DP is a no go this week and Jamal Jackson will make his first start. He's had 2 weeks to run with the 1st team and I have confidence in his ability. I predict a tight first half with ASU pulling away late.

ASU: 31
The Citadel: 17

Attendance: 14,500
I expect a strong ASU contingent in the stands. I will be loud and proud, don't disappoint me!

I have even taken the initiative of writing a full preview for the ASU folks who'd care to read it:
http://appstatemike.blogspot.com/2011/10/game-preview-citadel.html

Go App, do work boys! xtroublex

[SideLine Shooter]

It should be interesting.

[Reign of Terrier]

It depends on which offense shows up for App State, if it's the one that i think they are capable of 38-14...if not 24-14

[asumike83]

It depends on which offense shows up for App State, if it's the one that i think they are capable of 38-14...if not 24-14

Right you are. I think the bye week was well timed and hopefully we come out sharp.

[Saint3333]

There will be some personnel changes on the defense from the Wofford game. Kimbrough will be back as well. Look for the ASU defense to defend the 3O much better this week. Citadel's oline isn't as good as Wofford's either.

Now the offense will remain a mystery until gametime as Jackson will likely be the starter. My biggest concern will be using the playbook vs. Jackson's ability to lead the team to victory. I hope to see Cadet in the slot more, Miller used more at RB, going to Jorden early and often, and getting Quick 7 to 8 targets. Use the talent we have PLEASE.

ASU historically plays close games in Charleston for some reason. Three of the last five games down there have been decided by three points or less, during that stretch ASU has won by an average of 21 at home.

Weather should be fine with a high of 80.

[SpeedkingATL]

Here's hoping the App offense returns to "blitzkrieg speed" and wears down the Citdogs. Much quicker developing plays, quick passes and then Brian Quick passes downfield. If JJ starts they will blitz every play trying to disrupt and the Apps need to hit the openings created. Lets get back to "jet" speed and play with some confidence. Get Miller and Cadet in space. Maybe the coach's watched to Oregon game last Saturday and realize that's the speed this offense is meant to run.

I think the defense will dominate this weekend being back at full strengh. Citdog has NO passing attack and with a week to correct things from a better Wofford option team the Apps should be loaded for bullpups.

Mascot with Gun - 31

Low country dogs - 7

The mojo will return to the block A this week.

[asumike83]

Interesting read for any of those who are Rivals members:
http://appalachianstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1278296

Looks like the staff has decided to move Lanston Tanyi back to the down lineman position full-time in place of FR James Robinson. The DL will now be Ronald Blair, Dan Wylie and Lanston Tanyi while Lloyd, Rizor and Brewer will make up the OLB rotation. Robinson is a young guy with a ton of potential but very little experience and it sounds like he will remain in the rotation and see his fair share of playing time behind Tanyi. Personally, I love the move. Lanston is our best pass-rusher and also has experience against the triple option offense. This makes our 3-man front much more disruptive and should allow the LB's to fly around and make plays. Tanyi came out and played with is hand down in the 2nd half of the Wofford game and looked great. Hopefully this will help sure up the front seven for the remainder of the year.

[biggie]

Wonder if the Tanyi move may be just for TO teams, he did well in the 2nd half at Wofford, mostly up on the line even as a LB.

Hopefully having Tanyi/Gainey/Kimbrough back will help quite a bit. If we are going to win the D probably needs to hold them to only 1 TD.

[HighCountry]

I have high hopes for the offense and play calling after watching them for the past 2 weeks, this will be a good game.

[T-Dog]

Kind of weird how this has flown under the radar, but Presley is doubtful for the game due to injury and Jamal Jackson will be getting his first start.

[SideLine Shooter]

Does anybody know if the "CitDog" is going to be on display before the game. You know, like a dunking booth or walking around with Michael Vick.

[asumike83]

Anybody familiar with the parking situation at Johnson Hagood? My hotel is only about 5 miles away, don't know if I should cab it or drive and park.

[SideLine Shooter]

Anybody familiar with the parking situation at Johnson Hagood? My hotel is only about 5 miles away, don't know if I should cab it or drive and park.

All I've seen is plenty of parking.

[Apphole]

I would just like to say that Charleston is awesome. I'm in a bar right now and every single wall is covered in one dollar bills. There must be two thousand dollars on the walls.

[OL FU]

I would just like to say that Charleston is awesome. I'm in a bar right now and every single wall is covered in one dollar bills. There must be two thousand dollars on the walls.

Make sure you have confederate money to pay for your drinks or you will be washing dishesxsmiley_wix

[CharlestonAppFan]

I would just like to say that Charleston is awesome. I'm in a bar right now and every single wall is covered in one dollar bills. There must be two thousand dollars on the walls.

You must be at the Griffon. Great dive bar. Enjoy; I'll be at the tailgate in the gravel parking lot wearing my #20 App jersey.

[AppStsGr8]

Jackson is certainly a good athlete. I'm not sure he's got the best quarterbacking skills yet - thinking from a leadership, passing, seeing other players, etc. point of view. If The Citadel can force Jackson to be a quarterback and deny his individual athletic abilities, it may be a long day for the App offense. I'm counting on Jackson's having a great day, App's offense pulling it together following the open week, and App's defense shutting down the triple O.

Go App!

[AppMAN04]

There is no doubt in my mind that ASU will win and win big.. I have been calling Jackson to run the show since the season began.. I like DP and all and he had a great season last year, but Jackson has a physical demeanor about him that is different and I am just waiting for him to explode.. EIther way gem em hell APPS!

[biggie]

Middleton hurt but should play, Blalock game time decision. Hopefully neither of those hurt us too bad.

Time to go get an adult beverage and sit in the recliner with the radio.

[biggie]

Good start, hold Cid O and good drive for TD.

7-0 Apps

[Skjellyfetti]

We stop Citadel on their next drive. They fake a punt and run for 27 yards. They're moving the ball now-- inside our redzone.

[MountaineerNation]

I liked the play calling and Jackson had some good throws

[Skjellyfetti]

Touchdown App.

Jackson making some nice throws. Spreading the ball around well.

14-0
1:54 left in 1st

[biggie]

El Cit scores after the fake punt. Another good drive for App.

14-7 Apps

[MountaineerNation]

Steven Miller with a nice run in on 3rd down.... Jamal Jackson is 11-11 passing!

[Skjellyfetti]

Defense looks pissed.

Stuff em for 3 and out.

[Skjellyfetti]

Making it look easy. TD Tony Washington.

21-7 Appalachian State.

[MountaineerNation]

Jackson still perfect passing too

[AppMAN04]

Jackson is ready to take the lead for good, DP needs to run the ball

Go APPS!

[biggie]

TO El Cit, need to keep pressure on.

[AppMAN04]

TOUCHDOWN ASU 28-7

[biggie]

TD Quick, all looks good on offense for App right now. Jackson 15 for 15.

28-7 Apps

[MountaineerNation]

wow.... what a game for App so far

[biggie]

Kickoff coverage and tricks are hurting App. El Cit TD.

28-14 Apps

[Skjellyfetti]

Touchdown App. Nice little playaction QB draw > pass to Jorden... ala Tebow jumppass.

35-14

[biggie]

Good playing and play calling on offense by App. TD Jorden.

35-14 Apps

[MountaineerNation]

very nice first half for the APPS

[appstate38]

Great 1st half.... Now lets get 2 more.

[Apphole]

We're back baby

[biggie]

Watching FU/GSU while listening to App.

Furman doesn't seem to have anything for the outside option/pitch. GSU TD, then FU kick return TD, PAT blocked and returned for 2. 9-7 GSU

[Apphole]

I am THOROUGHLY impressed by the Citadel stadium and gameday experience. They are a mile ahead of UTC.

[appstate38]

Here we go!!! second half underway

[appstate38]

App offense picking up where it left off in the first half

[Skjellyfetti]

1st drive of 2nd half featuring a lot of Cadet and Miller.

42-14 Appalachian State rolling.

[appstate38]

In other news... Furman driving on "The Stink"

[Horseshoe App]

1st drive of 2nd half featuring a lot of Cadet and Miller.

42-14 Appalachian State rolling.

I know it is the Citadel, but our offense is much more diverse. Jamal keeps them honest with running a little bit. Good show so far:)

[biggie]

Good start for 2nd half. 42-14 Apps

16-6 GSU.

Evan Williams going down quickly.

[Skjellyfetti]

TD Furman

16-13
10:59 in 2nd quarter

[appstate38]

I believe that App offense is gonna take our a couple weeks frustration on the ole Bulldogs

[Skjellyfetti]

Damn. Looks like JJ just got banged up. Cadet in at QB.

[appstate38]

Radio says it just a cramp

[Skjellyfetti]

And... Touchdown Stephen Miller. Beeeeautiful spin move.

Citadel getting routed like it's 1864.

49-14

[ASUG8]

In other news, Chatty is still a better team than ASU. :D

[appstate38]

TD Stink

GSU-23
FU-13

[biggie]

DJ/Brownie said it looked like cramps. Just said trainers rubbing calf muscles.

Miller TD. 49-14 Apps

OL seems like much better blocing for both run and pass games.

Brewer out for game, ice on knee, but putting weight on it.

[Skjellyfetti]

INT

Demetrius McCray

[appstate38]

It amazing what an open week can do for your team!!! Go Apps

[Skjellyfetti]

Cadet fumbles trying to superman it over the Citadel line.

[biggie]

Cadet fumble, he doesn't need to be running between the tackles.

[biggie]

TD El Cit

49-21 Apps

[ASUG8]

DJ/Brownie said it looked like cramps. Just said trainers rubbing calf muscles.

Miller TD. 49-14 Apps

OL seems like much better blocing for both run and pass games.

Brewer out for game, ice on knee, but putting weight on it.

How are we looking under Jackson? Much better offensive effort it would seem just from the score.

[biggie]

How are we looking under Jackson? Much better offensive effort it would seem just from the score.

Everything has improved right now on offense, from all players and coaches.

[Skjellyfetti]

TD Citadel on blocked punt
49-28

Come on, guys. Don't pull a Chattanooga.....

[Block-A]

Citadel blocks a kick for TD.

49 - 28 App

Almost end of 3rd q.

[appstate38]

Come on Apps!!!! Really

[biggie]

Damnit, punt blocked for TD.

49-28

Were running Cadet at QB, 3 running plays.

[Skjellyfetti]

Jackson back in at QB.

[appstate38]

No need to let off the gas.... Let's go Offense

[MountaineerNation]

we need a first down now

[Skjellyfetti]

Game would not be a success unless the fans have some things to ***** about all week.

Citadel throwing the ball all over us on this drive. After passing for zero yards against us last year. lol

TD Citadel 49-35

[appstate38]

Dang.... Citadel comeback continues

[biggie]

Can't believe we are well on the way to blowing this. Need a score.

[Block-A]

Fumble.

Citadel ball.

Sheesh

[Skjellyfetti]

****ING FUMBLE. ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!!??!

[Skjellyfetti]

citadel tries to give it back... but we let it bounce out of bounds.

[Skjellyfetti]

Ugh. Long Citadel run down to the 20 on 4th down.

[MountaineerNation]

just as good as App's offense was in the first half, the defense has turned out to be just awful 2nd half

[appstate38]

Defense seems gased right now

[Appaholic]

how much time?

[Skjellyfetti]

Touchdown Citadel.

I feel sick

[Block-A]

Damn, this is a collapse of epic proportions.

49-42

about 7 minutes left

[MountaineerNation]

how much time?

49-42 4th quarter, 7 mins or so left

[Horseshoe App]

how much time?

6 minutes

[appstate38]

Bulldogs are in the rearview mirror now.... Come on Apps!

[ASUG8]

Buckle your seatbelts sportsfans - the bellhops are riding some momentum.

[biggie]

Fing sad.

[MountaineerNation]

6 mins left.... let's go App, get a score and seal this game PLEASE

[Block-A]

Citadel made good adjustments & got a couple good bounces second half. App playing like Citadel wouldn't come back from the locker room.

Better suck it up, boys, & get going.

[Skjellyfetti]

Amazing that we can go from a 14-12 defensive struggle to a 49-42 shootout in a matter of 2 games.

[appstate38]

3rd and short.... Run clock run

[appstate38]

New set of downs. 1st down Apps

[Mikeyosef]

How much time's left???

[Block-A]

Under two min left, App in red zone

[appstate38]

Cadet run 1st down Apps

[Mikeyosef]

Alright!!!!!

[Block-A]

TO Citadel 1:10 left

[biggie]

Come on Apps get a score.

[Mikeyosef]

What down is it?

[Block-A]

1st & goal at the 4, TO Citadel 1:05 left

[ASUG8]

7 should break their backs, although not in a pretty manner. I'll take the win, but I won't brag about it.

[biggie]

1st and goal, run it and protect the ball.

[Block-A]

2nd & goal @ the 1 yd. line

[appstate38]

Cadet carries to the 1yd line-- TO Citadel

[biggie]

2 knees could work, but would like a score.

[Skjellyfetti]

victory formation from the 1.

[Block-A]

Victory formation.

Game over

[Block-A]

WAAAAY more interesting game than it should have been.

[biggie]

Whew..

[appstate38]

Apps WIN Apps WIN Apps WIN

[Skjellyfetti]

I give us the benefit of the doubt on the comeback. Jamal being out for two series... offense was too limited with Cadet at QB... defense was on the field too long and got winded.

Still a hell of a comeback by Citadel. But, I think we took a big step forward today.

[Horseshoe App]

I guess this week we will complain about the defense. The Citadel does not quit, however we should have not allowed that much offense in the second half. Oh well, we won.

[Appaholic]

Poor, poor citdog.....anybody hear from him lately? I was thinking of him yesterday as I rode a train across Germany.....just like his ancestors....

[ASUG8]

So with this in the bag and DP on the mend what does Jerry do vs. Samford next week? It appears under JJ we can score offensively, but DP has the pedigree from the last couple of years. Samford ain't no pushover this year.

[Block-A]

I guess this week we will complain about the defense. The Citadel does not quit, however we should have not allowed that much offense in the second half. Oh well, we won.

The defense wasn't all that bad. Citadel got short field w/ turnovers & blocked a punt for a TD. The only sustained drive the offense had in the second half was the last one.

[Appaholic]

Sooo....Special Teams kept an App opponent in the game?....shocker....

[Skjellyfetti]

Sooo....Special Teams kept an App opponent in the game?....shocker....

I think Jackson's cramping was the biggest thing that kept them in it.

We put Cadet in at QB for 2 series... and we couldn't do anything. Defense got no rest and they got winded.

[asknoquarter21]

I agree, the defense was decent today.

The 14 points in the 1st half were from a fake punt and a double reverse pass that gave them a big gain.

The scores in the 2nd were a short field drive, a blocked punt TD after a three and out then another short field from a fumble. The Last drive was a bad defensive showing but they were so gassed. Not saying these are excuses, but the offense was just as much at fault for all those scores. JJ getting hurt was the biggest thing.

[T-Dog]

Brownie said that we shouldn't have a QB controversy due to how well JJ played today and I feel the same way. Presley hasn't been the same since his concussion last year and sometimes you have to go with what works, plain and simple.

[kdinva]

how much time?

Live stats........;) .........hell of a game, I am now officially worried about VMI's trip to Charleston in two weeks.

[Squealofthepig]

Live stats........;) .........hell of a game, I am now officially worried about VMI's trip to Charleston in two weeks.

Incidentally, grats on the win today!

[FCS_pwns_FBS]

Looks like there are now QB controversies in Chatty and Boone. Robinson is torching Western and JJ has a good day against El Cid.

Will be interesting to see who starts for App. How whacky would it be to have an All-American and Payton finalist be benched mid-season?

[bleedingblue]

GSU 50! FU 20! Great Day in Statesboro!!!!!

[Apphole]

Looks like there are now QB controversies in Chatty and Boone. Robinson is torching Western and JJ has a good day against El Cid.

Will be interesting to see who starts for App. How whacky would it be to have an All-American and Payton finalist be benched mid-season?
I wouldn't say there's any question in Boone anymore.

[SpeedkingATL]

The first half App looked as crisp offensively as they've looked in a long time. Much better playcalling and quicker developing plays. Miller made a huge contribution and JJ looked very poised running the show. Crazy second half but good to see 550+ yard of balanced offense. App's not there yet but today was a start in the right direction. Nice showing of App fans at the game today...it was a hot one!

[Skjellyfetti]

Brownie said that we shouldn't have a QB controversy due to how well JJ played today and I feel the same way. Presley hasn't been the same since his concussion last year and sometimes you have to go with what works, plain and simple.

Presley was absolutely awesome in the playoffs last year.

I'm probably in the minority... but, I don't believe our offense was so much better because JJ is that much better than DP. Jackson didn't have any pressure for the first half. He could just sit back and pick the secondary apart. DP did not have that luxury against Wofford, Chattanooga, or Virginia Tech. The playcalling was on a whole different level today... and JJ benefited from that. And, as good as a game as Jackson had... Presley has had several that are better.

I would go with Presley if he's 100% next week... but, I know I'm in the minority.

[asumike83]

I was able to be there today, and I think this was the best we've looked all year. Jamal had a great game, we ran it well and the defense was not nearly as bad as the score would indicate. A fake punt, reverse WR pass, fumble and blocked punt made it close. Big mistakes, but fixable and not defensive problems.

I love DeAndre to death but Jamal needs to be in there. He was sharper and more confident than DP has looked this season. He finished 21 of 27 passing and I'd say maybe 2 of those incomplete passes were on him. He threw a great ball and was poised late when we let them back in it. In my opinion, Jamal is ready to lead this team.

[Horseshoe App]

Presley was absolutely awesome in the playoffs last year.

I'm probably in the minority... but, I don't believe our offense was so much better because JJ is that much better than DP. Jackson didn't have any pressure for the first half. He could just sit back and pick the secondary apart. DP did not have that luxury against Wofford, Chattanooga, or Virginia Tech. The playcalling was on a whole different level today... and JJ benefited from that. And, as good as a game as Jackson had... Presley has had several that are better.

I would go with Presley if he's 100% next week... but, I know I'm in the minority.

He had one good game in the snow in the playoffs. That was running. It had nothing to do with having a complete game. He was not awesome against Villanova(heck, the whole team was pretty bad that day).
As you said, most would disagree with you on this one and I am one of them. I do respect your loyalty, but I do think it is time to keep the change in place.