AGS Top 25 Week 3 Results

[AGSPoll]

AGS Top 25 September 19, 2011


1 Georgia Southern Eagles 2699 75
2 Northern Iowa Panthers 2588 20
3 Montana State Bobcats 2473 3
4 Appalachian State Mountaineers 2299 0
5 North Dakota State Bison 2219 2
6 Richmond Spiders 2207 8
7 Wofford Terriers 2042
8 Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens 1983 2
9 William & Mary Tribe 1881 0
10 Montana Grizzlies 1853 0
11 New Hampshire Wildcats 1589 0
12 Chattanooga Mocs 1546 0
13 James Madison Dukes 1472 0
14 Lehigh Mountain Hawks 1174 0
15 Southern Illinois Salukis 1126 0
16 Jacksonville State Gamecocks 839 0
17 Sam Houston State Bearkats 641 0
18 South Dakota Coyotes 636 0
19 Stephen F. Austin Lumberjacks 629 0
20 Southern Utah Thunderbirds 590 0
21 Liberty Flames 578 0
22 Eastern Washington Eagles 391 0
23 South Carolina State Bulldogs 366 0
24 McNeese State Cowboys 331 0
25 Indiana State Sycamores 283 0


The Most Significant Win:
Indiana State Sycamores

The Most Significant Loss:
Eastern Washington Eagles


Others recieving votes:

26 Towson Tigers 247 0
27 Old Dominion Monarchs 233 0
28 Maine Black Bears 214 0
29 Cal Poly Mustangs 155 0
30 Murray State Racers 154 0
31 Youngstown State Penguins 145 0
32 Holy Cross Crusaders 141 0
33 Central Arkansas Bears 106 0
34 Weber State Wildcats 88 0
35 Eastern Kentucky Colonels 61 0
36 Portland State Vikings 56 0
37 Sacramento State Hornets 45 0
38 Jackson State Tigers 43 0
39 Delaware State Hornets 40 0
40 Bethune-Cookman Wildcats 37 0


Thanks AGS Poll Voters for getting out the vote. Keep up the good work.

[Side Judge]

Week 2 or 3?

[GaSouthern]

Could finally get 4 SoCon teams in if this were to hold up... but it wont.

[darell1976]

Don't you mean week 3??

[ursus arctos horribilis]

Week 2 or 3?

agspoll is always a little "Rummy" on Mondays so I fixed it for him.

[jhanel]

My vote:

1: Northern Iowa Panthers
2: Georgia Southern Eagles
3: Montana State Bobcats
4: Richmond Spiders
5: Wofford Terriers
6: Appalachian State Mountaineers
7: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
8: New Hampshire Wildcats
9: North Dakota State Bison
10: James Madison Dukes
11: Montana Grizzlies
12: Chattanooga Mocs
13: McNeese State Cowboys
14: William & Mary Tribe
15: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
16: Liberty Flames
17: Stephen F. Austin Lumberjacks
18: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
19: Southern Illinois Salukis
20: Sam Houston State Bearkats
21: Towson Tigers
22: South Dakota Coyotes
23: Southern Utah Thunderbirds
24: Murray State Racers
25: Central Arkansas Bears

jhanel

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

My attempt...

1: Georgia Southern Eagles
2: Montana State Bobcats
3: Northern Iowa Panthers
4: Wofford Terriers
5: North Dakota State Bison
6: William & Mary Tribe
7: Richmond Spiders
8: Appalachian State Mountaineers
9: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
10: Montana Grizzlies
11: New Hampshire Wildcats
12: Chattanooga Mocs
13: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
14: James Madison Dukes
15: Southern Illinois Salukis
16: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
17: Stephen F. Austin Lumberjacks
18: South Dakota Coyotes
19: Southern Utah Thunderbirds
20: Eastern Washington Eagles
21: Maine Black Bears
22: Holy Cross Crusaders
23: Liberty Flames
24: Central Connecticut State Blue Devils
25: Yale Bulldogs

[Squealofthepig]

110 voters - on the aggregate, nothing looks too wonky (don't think I had any difference of more than four or five points).

Nice to see we didn't punish NDSU for valiantly losing to their bye week like the coaches did.

[DJKyR0]

I can't tell if it's sad or awesome that this poll is light-years better than the Coaches Poll.

[Smitty]

Could finally get 4 SoCon teams in if this were to hold up... but it wont.

Yeah too bad the SoCon teams are about to destroy each other in the next few weeks...

[OL FU]

I haven't had the time to keep up like I used to but Congrats to Indiana State. It was only a few years ago that winning one or two games in a season would have been an accomplishment.

[PantherRob82]

AGS Top 25 September 19, 2011
I'm surprsed these teams are so high:
9 William & Mary Tribe 1881 0
12 Chattanooga Mocs 1546 0
13 James Madison Dukes 1472 0
15 Southern Illinois Salukis 1126 0
16 Jacksonville State Gamecocks 839 0
17 Sam Houston State Bearkats 641 0

Why are they getting votes?
39 Delaware State Hornets 40 0


(see bolded comments :D)

[PantherRob82]

My vote:

1: Northern Iowa Panthers
2: Georgia Southern Eagles
3: Montana State Bobcats
...

I'd shuffle the spots a little, but otherwise it looks good to me.

[Fear the Bird]

(see bolded comments :D)

I shout from the rooftops weekly and probably won't stop until I get a reason

WHO keeps voting Jacksonville State so high?! What am I missing?

[PantherRob82]

I shout from the rooftops weekly and probably won't stop until I get a reason

WHO keeps voting Jacksonville State so high?! What am I missing?

They are in the 26-30 of my poll and are still that high. Completely agree.

[Squealofthepig]

Let me see:

W&M: I had them lower; wins over VMI and New Haven have been underwhelming.
Chatt: Gotta evaluate fairly, and Chat has a good road win and a convincing home win vs. a top team from another conference. Just cause they're Chattownmocs team doesn't mean you can just not rank them. ;)
JMU: Actually surprised they're not a bit higher. Gotta give 'em props for going ooc and away from home for a risky game at Liberty, plus beat another team that is still getting votes (Central Conn)
SIU: They went on the road and won at SEMO, and lost by two td's in an SEC house.
Jacksonville State: This is right where I had Jacksonville State, honestly; lost in Chatty, squeaked by Tennessee Martin, good win over False GSU (just to keep the Georgia Southern fans happy there)
SHSU: ooc win vs. an MVFC team and a solid win over what was regarded as a good Central Arkansas Team

Delaware State: I think some of the coaches have infiltrated the AGS poll and cannot distinguish between Hens and Hornets.

Edit: Whoops, I had JSU a fair bit lower, misread the place. OK, that surprises a bit, but 15+ it gets pretty wacky.

[Sycamore51]

I haven't had the time to keep up like I used to but Congrats to Indiana State. It was only a few years ago that winning one or two games in a season would have been an accomplishment.

Coach Miles and his boys have done an amazing job in the past 2 years. We had the longest losing streak in the nation, won one game, then had the longest streak again just a few years ago. It's amazing what a solid staff and admin support can do, plus a lot of talent.

[PantherRob82]

Coach Miles and his boys have done an amazing job in the past 2 years. We had the longest losing streak in the nation, won one game, then had the longest streak again just a few years ago. It's amazing what a solid staff and admin support can do, plus a lot of talent.

Having made my first trip to Terre Haute last year, this is very impressive. They play in an "ok at best" stadium, without much fan support, and still are getting things turned around.

[bjtheflamesfan]

Here's mine (puts on fire suit):

1: Georgia Southern Eagles
2: Appalachian State Mountaineers
3: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
4: Wofford Terriers
5: Richmond Spiders
6: William & Mary Tribe
7: Northern Iowa Panthers
8: Montana State Bobcats
9: Montana Grizzlies
10: North Dakota State Bison
11: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
12: James Madison Dukes
13: Chattanooga Mocs
14: Southern Illinois Salukis
15: Stephen F. Austin Lumberjacks
16: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
17: McNeese State Cowboys
18: Sam Houston State Bearkats
19: Liberty Flames
20: South Dakota Coyotes
21: Southern Utah Thunderbirds
22: Towson Tigers
23: Maine Black Bears
24: Cal Poly Mustangs
25: Sacramento State Hornets

[Sycamore51]

Having made my first trip to Terre Haute last year, this is very impressive. They play in an "ok at best" stadium, without much fan support, and still are getting things turned around.

You're being kind with your stadium description. Land has been bought and a new stadium has been added to the university's master plan, but who knows when and if it will get built.

[PantherRob82]

Here's mine (puts on fire suit):

1: Georgia Southern Eagles
2: Appalachian State Mountaineers
3: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
4: Wofford Terriers
5: Richmond Spiders
6: William & Mary Tribe
7: Northern Iowa Panthers
8: Montana State Bobcats
9: Montana Grizzlies
10: North Dakota State Bison
11: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
12: James Madison Dukes
13: Chattanooga Mocs
14: Southern Illinois Salukis
15: Stephen F. Austin Lumberjacks
16: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
17: McNeese State Cowboys
18: Sam Houston State Bearkats
19: Liberty Flames
20: South Dakota Coyotes
21: Southern Utah Thunderbirds
22: Towson Tigers
23: Maine Black Bears
24: Cal Poly Mustangs
25: Sacramento State Hornets
..in my opinion..

Delaware- High
W&M -High
UNI- maybe low?
Towson- don't agree with.


Not too shabby BJ. You must have cheated. ;)

[Twentysix]

Here's mine (puts on fire suit):

1: Georgia Southern Eagles
2: Appalachian State Mountaineers
3: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
4: Wofford Terriers
5: Richmond Spiders
6: William & Mary Tribe
7: Northern Iowa Panthers
8: Montana State Bobcats
9: Montana Grizzlies
10: North Dakota State Bison
11: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
12: James Madison Dukes
13: Chattanooga Mocs
14: Southern Illinois Salukis
15: Stephen F. Austin Lumberjacks
16: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
17: McNeese State Cowboys
18: Sam Houston State Bearkats
19: Liberty Flames
20: South Dakota Coyotes
21: Southern Utah Thunderbirds
22: Towson Tigers
23: Maine Black Bears
24: Cal Poly Mustangs
25: Sacramento State Hornets

Little bit of east coast fever in your top 6

[bjtheflamesfan]

lol I put my Pick em work off til after the polls came out and had my previous ballots (thank you agsmedia) in a subwindow so I wouldnt forget anyone this time

[Squealofthepig]

Little bit of east coast fever in your top 6

In his defense (UNI at 7, MSU at #8 and NDSU at #10 strike me as low), it still seems pretty fair. Some good love for the Southland conference there, and not too many people are ranking Cal Poly and Sac State. So while you can say there might be a perceived east coast bias, there's a good mix of conferences and geographies that line up generally with what little performance we've seen from all of these teams.

[LakesBison]

at least ags and cs members are smart enough to know the difference between ndsu & und, its embarassing to me mistaken for them

[URMite]

lol I put my Pick em work off til after the polls came out and had my previous ballots (thank you agsmedia) in a subwindow so I wouldnt forget anyone this time

Did you forget us last week? (Not Sure) Where would you put UNH this week? (upcoming opponent)

[PantherRob82]

Did you forget us last week? (Not Sure) Where would you put UNH this week? (upcoming opponent)

I didn't notice he left out UNH again. xlolx

Poor, BJ.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

Here's mine (puts on fire suit):

xlolx

I'm impressed more with the sense of humor over the beatings you've gotten the last couple of weeks.

Solid work on the poll though as well.

[Lehigh Football Nation]

Are me, GoLehighTUOwl, and the Lafayette guys the only people giving any votes to Yale? I find that incredibly hard to believe, especially considering there's not a single Ivy in the ORV this week. I mean, the three of us are documented that we voted for Yale, and I've got to assume that IvyTalk or DJOM put them up there... xconfusedx

[Squealofthepig]

Are me, GoLehighTUOwl, and the Lafayette guys the only people giving any votes to Yale? I find that incredibly hard to believe, especially considering there's not a single Ivy in the ORV this week. I mean, the three of us are documented that we voted for Yale, and I've got to assume that IvyTalk or DJOM put them up there... xconfusedx

All the undefeated ivy teams (and Penn) I track; problem for me, ranking them this week, is that most just have one or two games, vs. most other teams on the 25 and receiving votes who have played more. As they build up resumes, I'm sure I will have Ivy teams in and out of my polls again this year (I had Pennsylvania up until this week).

Brown is the perfect example of why I didn't have an ivy team in my top 25 - the only game they've had is a one-point win at 0-3 Stony Brook. How does that stack up vs. my 21-25: Sam Houston State has two good wins (WIU, Central Arkansas); Cal Poly has a competitive loss, an FBS loss and a surprisingly large win over SDSU; Old Dominion doesn't have marquee wins, but they do have three regular wins; Maine has two FCS wins, including a win at Albany; and Tennessee Tech (my throwaway #25 vote) notched an 11 point win at a Valley team (EIU). Brown may be better than any or all of those teams, but with only one point of reference, I can't say. (And, yes, I have Yale higher, and I value their home win over Georgetown - just not quite top 25 yet).

[crusader11]

Are me, GoLehighTUOwl, and the Lafayette guys the only people giving any votes to Yale? I find that incredibly hard to believe, especially considering there's not a single Ivy in the ORV this week. I mean, the three of us are documented that we voted for Yale, and I've got to assume that IvyTalk or DJOM put them up there... xconfusedx

Here's how I had 20-25:

20: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
21: Murray State Racers
22: Maine Black Bears
23: Yale Bulldogs
24: Central Connecticut State Blue Devils
25: Brown Bears

[bjtheflamesfan]

Did you forget us last week? (Not Sure) Where would you put UNH this week? (upcoming opponent)

I did forget the spiders last week...as for UNH...theyre 1-1 and their loss was a summary sidewalk beatdown, and their one win was over Lehigh, a team who, though good, someone like New Hampshire should beat much more solidly. Id say top 15, maybe top 10 depending on how everybody else does.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

Are me, GoLehighTUOwl, and the Lafayette guys the only people giving any votes to Yale? I find that incredibly hard to believe, especially considering there's not a single Ivy in the ORV this week. I mean, the three of us are documented that we voted for Yale, and I've got to assume that IvyTalk or DJOM put them up there... xconfusedx

They are receiving votes but just not enough to make the list yet.

[Fear the Bird]

Here's how I had 20-25:

20: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
21: Murray State Racers
22: Maine Black Bears
23: Yale Bulldogs
24: Central Connecticut State Blue Devils
25: Brown Bears

Which puts HC in your top 20? I have them at 25 looking for them to beat up on Idle this week!

[crusader11]

Which puts HC in your top 20? I have them at 25 looking for them to beat up on Idle this week!

A 30 point thrashing of Colgate, a sound beating of a Harvard team who is projected to finish atop the Ivy League, and a near upset of a UMASS team that looks to be in the upper half of the CAA is good enough for a top 20 ranking to me...especially with how interchangeable many of these teams are. Currently, do you rank an 0-3 EWU team or 1-2 SC State team ahead of Holy Cross? Not so sure that you can.

We'll find out just how good HC is in two weeks against UNH. If they pull out a win in Durham, I think they're a borderline top 15 team.

[Fear the Bird]

A 30 point thrashing of Colgate, a sound beating of a Harvard team who is projected to finish atop the Ivy League, and a near upset of a UMASS team that looks to be in the upper half of the CAA is good enough for a top 20 ranking to me...especially with how interchangeable many of these teams are. Currently, do you rank an 0-3 EWU team or 1-2 SC State team ahead of Holy Cross? Not so sure that you can.

We'll find out just how good HC is in two weeks against UNH. If they pull out a win in Durham, I think they're a borderline top 15 team.

Hey you need to remember you are preaching to the choir! If I have them ranked and they are falling at #32 - there are others who need to be shown the way

[umassfan]

Im still waiting on a good reason to leave UMass out of this so called "poll" They are in the sports network poll and coaches but you fools decide to leave us out because we are moving? We are playing a full FCS schedule this year. There are only two things we cannot do... playoffs and win league title. Everything else this season is fair game.

[UNH Fanboi]

I did forget the spiders last week...as for UNH...theyre 1-1 and their loss was a summary sidewalk beatdown, and their one win was over Lehigh, a team who, though good, someone like New Hampshire should beat much more solidly. Id say top 15, maybe top 10 depending on how everybody else does.

Well you currently have Lehigh ranked at #11. So even though UNH beat Lehigh head-to-head on the road, you would rank them behind Lehigh because they did not beat Lehigh by enough? That makes no sense. If you are going to downgrade anyone for a close win, it should be W&M.

Anyway, UNH vs. Richmond should be very interesting. I'm not completely sold on the Spiders yet.

[yorkcountyUNHfan]

I did forget the spiders last week...as for UNH...theyre 1-1 and their loss was a summary sidewalk beatdown, and their one win was over Lehigh, a team who, though good, someone like New Hampshire should beat much more solidly. Id say top 15, maybe top 10 depending on how everybody else does.

So did you forget UNH or feel they are not top 25 right now? I can't tell by your reply.

[bjtheflamesfan]

I had said in another post that didnt make it up that I hammered UNH pretty hard because of their loss to Toledo (I forget who it was but he touted their success against FBS schools and to see them get basically squashed definitely hurt things), Ive since moderated things but being only 1-1 really didnt give me much to go on when it came to putting them back in off a bye week.

[Cocky]

I shout from the rooftops weekly and probably won't stop until I get a reason

WHO keeps voting Jacksonville State so high?! What am I missing?

Not me, they are not in my poll.

[PantherRob82]

I had said in another post that didnt make it up that I hammered UNH pretty hard because of their loss to Toledo (I forget who it was but he touted their success against FBS schools and to see them get basically squashed definitely hurt things), Ive since moderated things but being only 1-1 really didnt give me much to go on when it came to putting them back in off a bye week.


But then Toledo almost beat Ohio State and hung with Boise State for three quarters. I'm not sure too many FCS teams would have done much better. A LOT of the teams in your Top 25 got waxed by FBS opponents.

[BEAR]

With starting QB Nathan Dick out with concussions and All SLC defender Frank Newsome out also, UCA is about to SLIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDEEEEEEE EEEEEEE
down that poll ladder. xlolx

But i'm glad coach is thinking about his players health and not temporary wins or close wins. Maybe they will get healthy in time for a shot at the playoffs. xcoolx

[TwoFeathers]

Coaches poll and TSN have W&M still at 5/6. After barely getting by a DII team at home by 3 points, and only putting up 13. I think 10-14 is more like it.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

Im still waiting on a good reason to leave UMass out of this so called "poll" They are in the sports network poll and coaches but you fools decide to leave us out because we are moving? We are playing a full FCS schedule this year. There are only two things we cannot do... playoffs and win league title. Everything else this season is fair game.

UMass is above the 63 scholly limit already from what I saw from another UMass poster last week. Is this not true?

What those polls do is up to them and I am fine with them being in there but we decided that if the NCAA and the CAA believed UMass to have an unfair advantage then we should defer to them as the authority on the matter.

You are saying that we should have deferred to the coach's poll and the TSN Poll?

Got it.

I've always known you to be a very sound thinker so I'll apologize on behalf of the people that made a decision that you don't like.

[Lehigh Football Nation]

Coaches poll and TSN have W&M still at 5/6. After barely getting by a DII team at home by 3 points, and only putting up 13. I think 10-14 is more like it.

They plummeted in mine. I think they were at 10 or 11, something like that.

[Houndawg]

at least ags and cs members are smart enough to know the difference between ndsu & und, its embarassing to me mistaken for them

I use Dale Lennon's quotation to distinguish the two - "If you want to run a large farming operation, go to NDSU; if you want to own a large farming operation, go to UND."

[Pard4Life]

Here's how I had 20-25:

20: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
21: Murray State Racers
22: Maine Black Bears
23: Yale Bulldogs
24: Central Connecticut State Blue Devils
25: Brown Bears

Interesting... I have Yale at 22, Holy Cross at 24, and Dartmouth at 25! I dropped Penn and Harvard. EWU at 23. I'd say I have SC St, CCSU at the door... CCSU is not winning by wide enough margins for me. Brown is also on the radar and Harvard is still there... but I want to see them play first in two weeks.

NDSU is my #1, UNI #2.

[ToTheLeft]

Beej... missing teams out of your poll is poor form.

Trying to cover for it with excuses that don't work is even worse.

Just admit you messed up and left out the Cats, and fix it next week. Because there's no reason to have Liberty and Lehigh in, and UNH out. No justifiable reason at all.

[ToTheLeft]

I use Dale Lennon's quotation to distinguish the two - "If you want to run a large farming operation, go to NDSU; if you want to own a large farming operation, go to UND."

And if you want to work for a large farming operation, you go to...?

[Pard4Life]

They plummeted in mine. I think they were at 10 or 11, something like that.

Yeah I treated it as a loss practically.

[UNIFanSince1983]

Here's mine (puts on fire suit):

1: Georgia Southern Eagles
2: Appalachian State Mountaineers
3: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
4: Wofford Terriers
5: Richmond Spiders
6: William & Mary Tribe
7: Northern Iowa Panthers
8: Montana State Bobcats
9: Montana Grizzlies
10: North Dakota State Bison
11: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
12: James Madison Dukes
13: Chattanooga Mocs
14: Southern Illinois Salukis
15: Stephen F. Austin Lumberjacks
16: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
17: McNeese State Cowboys
18: Sam Houston State Bearkats
19: Liberty Flames
20: South Dakota Coyotes
21: Southern Utah Thunderbirds
22: Towson Tigers
23: Maine Black Bears
24: Cal Poly Mustangs
25: Sacramento State Hornets

I don't want to hammer on you too much as many people already have. I am just curious as to having SFA at 15, but UNI only at 7. We have a 1 point loss to a 3-0 FBS team, and beat your number 15 SFA. Somehow though W&M is ranked at 6 with a squeaker over D2 New Haven a win over VMI and a blowout loss to Virginia.

Either way I can't complain too much as I do like when we are ranked a little lower and flying a little bit under the radar. Looks pretty good with a few minor problems, but it is still early so things will change xnodx

[superman7515]

UMass is above the 63 scholly limit already from what I saw from another UMass poster last week. Is this not true?

What those polls do is up to them and I am fine with them being in there but we decided that if the NCAA and the CAA believed UMass to have an unfair advantage then we should defer to them as the authority on the matter.

You are saying that we should have deferred to the coach's poll and the TSN Poll?

Got it.

I've always known you to be a very sound thinker so I'll apologize on behalf of the people that made a decision that you don't like.

THIS CLIP HAS LANGUAGE NSFW SO DON'T HIT PLAY IF THAT'S NOT OK.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCCyll3Psbg

[Houndawg]

And if you want to work for a large farming operation, you go to...?

Bill Fette?

[ToTheLeft]

Bill Fette?

I was thinking NC State, or Texas A&M.

[BlueHenSinfonian]

1: Richmond Spiders
2: Georgia Southern Eagles
3: Wofford Terriers
4: Northern Iowa Panthers
5: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
6: Montana State Bobcats
7: William & Mary Tribe
8: Montana Grizzlies
9: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
10: New Hampshire Wildcats
11: Chattanooga Mocs
12: Maine Black Bears
13: North Dakota State Bison
14: Appalachian State Mountaineers
15: Holy Cross Crusaders
16: James Madison Dukes
17: Towson Tigers
18: Sam Houston State Bearkats
19: Southern Utah Thunderbirds
20: Indiana State Sycamores
21: Eastern Kentucky Colonels
22: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
23: Weber State Wildcats
24: Old Dominion Monarchs
25: South Carolina State Bulldogs

FBS wins and near losses give bumps this early. UCA, McNeese, and the other Dakota schools are on my radar for future inclusion. Rhody dropped out after the loss to Umass, but has a chance to slip back in.

[DOME]

I want to know who thinks an 0-3 EWU is still top 25? Regardless of the level of competition no wins is no wins.

[Squealofthepig]

I want to know who thinks an 0-3 EWU is still top 25? Regardless of the level of competition no wins is no wins.

It's all a matter of how you vote: Do you vote for how good you feel the team is, or do you vote based on their performance on the field? These are two distinctly different things, after all (you can have a great team with a very bad record; and you can have an OK team with a great record if they never really play anyone). I didn't have EWU in my ballot (I try to strike a balance of the eye test and on-field accomplishment), but they have played like a top 25 team.

As other teams can attest, sometimes it just plain sucks to have that big old bullseye on your back, too.

[JMad03]

I didn't have EWU in my ballot (I try to strike a balance of the eye test and on-field accomplishment), but they have played like a top 25 team.


... except for that whole "winning" thing that top 25 teams tend to do.

[ToTheLeft]

Well, if someone uses a bogus method such as "Only drop a team 8 spots max for a loss" EWU would still be at 17 to 25 (depending on if the FBS loss would even drop them a full 8 spots).

[kdinva]

(see bolded comments :D)
Why are they getting votes?
39 Delaware State Hornets
still partying after their upset over VMI..

[WrenFGun]

I did forget the spiders last week...as for UNH...theyre 1-1 and their loss was a summary sidewalk beatdown, and their one win was over Lehigh, a team who, though good, someone like New Hampshire should beat much more solidly. Id say top 15, maybe top 10 depending on how everybody else does.

Seriously, How is Lehigh in the top 15 if UNH is out. That is insane. If UNH should beat Lehigh...they should be ahead of them in the poll. xconfusedx

[yorkcountyUNHfan]

Seriously, How is Lehigh in the top 15 if UNH is out. That is insane. If UNH should beat Lehigh...they should be ahead of them in the poll. xconfusedx

I was waiting for you to chime in on this...

[darell1976]

I want to know how come we weren't ranked like in the coaches poll.xlolxxlolx

Seriously though here is my vote:

1: Georgia Southern Eagles
2: Northern Iowa Panthers
3: Montana State Bobcats
4: William & Mary Tribe
5: Appalachian State Mountaineers
6: North Dakota State Bison
7: Richmond Spiders
8: Wofford Terriers
9: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
10: Montana Grizzlies
11: Chattanooga Mocs
12: New Hampshire Wildcats
13: James Madison Dukes
14: Eastern Washington Eagles
15: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
16: Southern Illinois Salukis
17: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
18: South Dakota Coyotes
19: Stephen F. Austin Lumberjacks
20: Liberty Flames
21: Central Arkansas Bears
22: Southern Utah Thunderbirds
23: Indiana State Sycamores
24: Sam Houston State Bearkats
25: Cal Poly Mustangs

[Squealofthepig]

Huh, I'm pretty similar to Darrell's here:

1: Northern Iowa Panthers
2: Montana State Bobcats
3: Richmond Spiders
4: Georgia Southern Eagles
5: Appalachian State Mountaineers
6: North Dakota State Bison
7: Wofford Terriers
8: Montana Grizzlies
9: James Madison Dukes
10: Chattanooga Mocs
11: William & Mary Tribe
12: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
13: New Hampshire Wildcats
14: Southern Illinois Salukis
15: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
16: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
17: Southern Utah Thunderbirds
18: Indiana State Sycamores
19: South Dakota Coyotes
20: Liberty Flames
21: Sam Houston State Bearkats
22: Cal Poly Mustangs
23: Old Dominion Monarchs
24: Maine Black Bears
25: Tennessee Tech Golden Eagles

[crossfire07]

I want to know who thinks an 0-3 EWU is still top 25? Regardless of the level of competition no wins is no wins.

Your right. 0-3 is still 0-3 no matter what. I guess what they done last year is driving THIS YEARS votes but that is the case with a lot of the teams listed.

[WrenFGun]

I was waiting for you to chime in on this...

Someone needs to incite the masses!

[Milktruck74]

I can't tell if it's sad or awesome that this poll is light-years better than the Coaches Poll.

That's because most of the "Coaches" are actually SIDs that don't know Jack about FCS Football, outside of their conference and the 4 or 5 schools they play ooc every few years. Yes, I know there are some coaches that fill out their own ballot and take great pride in laboring over each and every stat from every game.....but those coaches are probably sitting at 0-3 and should be spending more time on their gameplan, or looking for another job.

[ngineer]

I can't tell if it's sad or awesome that this poll is light-years better than the Coaches Poll.

Most coaches don't even vote and have their SIDs do it. They don't have the time to follow what others are doing other than the team next on their schedule.

[Milktruck74]

Most coaches don't even vote and have their SIDs do it. They don't have the time to follow what others are doing other than the team next on their schedule.

In my best Data (from the Goonies) impression....... "sats what I said, sats what I said"

[PantherRob82]

My poll:
1: Chattanooga Mocs
2. Eastern Washington Eagles
3. South Dakota Coyotes
4. Richmond Spiders
5. Sacramento State Hornets
6. Lehigh Mountain Hawks
7. Indiana State Sycamores
8. Coastal Carolina Chanticleers
9. North Dakota Fighting Sioux
10. North Dakota State Bison
11. Montana Grizzlies
12. William & Mary Tribe
13. Southern Illinois Salukis
14. Holy Cross Crusaders
15. Northern Iowa Panthers
16. Montana State Bobcats
17. Georgia Southern Eagles
18. Wofford Terriers
19. Southern Utah Thunderbirds
20. James Madison Dukes
21. McNeese State Cowboys
22. Liberty Flames
23. Delaware State Hornets
24. Towson Tigers
25. Monmouth Hakws

[Milktruck74]

My poll:
1: Chattanooga Mocs
2. Eastern Washington Eagles
3. South Dakota Coyotes
4. Richmond Spiders
5. Sacramento State Hornets
6. Lehigh Mountain Hawks
7. Indiana State Sycamores
8. Coastal Carolina Chanticleers
9. North Dakota Fighting Sioux
10. North Dakota State Bison
11. Montana Grizzlies
12. William & Mary Tribe
13. Southern Illinois Salukis
14. Holy Cross Crusaders
15. Northern Iowa Panthers
16. Montana State Bobcats
17. Georgia Southern Eagles
18. Wofford Terriers
19. Southern Utah Thunderbirds
20. James Madison Dukes
21. McNeese State Cowboys
22. Liberty Flames
23. Delaware State Hornets
24. Towson Tigers
25. Monmouth Hakws


I do like it!!!

[yorkcountyUNHfan]

My poll:
1: Chattanooga Mocs
2. Eastern Washington Eagles
3. South Dakota Coyotes
4. Richmond Spiders
5. Sacramento State Hornets
6. Lehigh Mountain Hawks
7. Indiana State Sycamores
8. Coastal Carolina Chanticleers
9. North Dakota Fighting Sioux
10. North Dakota State Bison
11. Montana Grizzlies
12. William & Mary Tribe
13. Southern Illinois Salukis
14. Holy Cross Crusaders
15. Northern Iowa Panthers
16. Montana State Bobcats
17. Georgia Southern Eagles
18. Wofford Terriers
19. Southern Utah Thunderbirds
20. James Madison Dukes
21. McNeese State Cowboys
22. Liberty Flames
23. Delaware State Hornets
24. Towson Tigers
25. Monmouth Hakws

OK Rob, now your pissin' me off

[blukeys]

My poll:
1: Chattanooga Mocs
2. Eastern Washington Eagles
3. South Dakota Coyotes
4. Richmond Spiders
5. Sacramento State Hornets
6. Lehigh Mountain Hawks
7. Indiana State Sycamores
8. Coastal Carolina Chanticleers
9. North Dakota Fighting Sioux
10. North Dakota State Bison
11. Montana Grizzlies
12. William & Mary Tribe
13. Southern Illinois Salukis
14. Holy Cross Crusaders
15. Northern Iowa Panthers
16. Montana State Bobcats
17. Georgia Southern Eagles
18. Wofford Terriers
19. Southern Utah Thunderbirds
20. James Madison Dukes
21. McNeese State Cowboys
22. Liberty Flames
23. Delaware State Hornets
24. Towson Tigers
25. Monmouth Hakws

The best laugh I have had in days. Where is UNI??? they belong with this group.

[PantherRob82]

The best laugh I have had in days. Where is UNI??? they belong with this group.

They're overrated....

;)

[Squealofthepig]

They're overrated....

;)

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[B&G]

My submission...

1 Richmond Spiders
2 Northern Iowa Panthers
3 Montana Grizzlies
4 Georgia Southern Eagles
5 North Dakota State Bison
6 Montana State Bobcats
7 Wofford Terriers
8 Appalachian State Mountaineers
9 New Hampshire Wildcats
10 Chattanooga Mocs
11 Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
12 James Madison Dukes
13 South Dakota Coyotes
14 William & Mary Tribe
15 Liberty Flames
16 Lehigh Mountain Hawks
17 Southern Illinois Salukis
18 Maine Black Bears
19 Sam Houston State Bearkats
20 Indiana State
21 Youngstown State
22 South Carolina State Bulldogs
23 Portland State
24 Eastern Washington Eagles
25 McNeese State Cowboys

If I had a mulligan, then I would probably drop Liberty a few more spots.

[boonegoon]

My poll:
1: Chattanooga Mocs
2. Eastern Washington Eagles
3. South Dakota Coyotes
4. Richmond Spiders
5. Sacramento State Hornets
6. Lehigh Mountain Hawks
7. Indiana State Sycamores
8. Coastal Carolina Chanticleers
9. North Dakota Fighting Sioux
10. North Dakota State Bison
11. Montana Grizzlies
12. William & Mary Tribe
13. Southern Illinois Salukis
14. Holy Cross Crusaders
15. Northern Iowa Panthers
16. Montana State Bobcats
17. Georgia Southern Eagles
18. Wofford Terriers
19. Southern Utah Thunderbirds
20. James Madison Dukes
21. McNeese State Cowboys
22. Liberty Flames
23. Delaware State Hornets
24. Towson Tigers
25. Monmouth Hakws

And I thought they smoked a lot of pot at App. Did you pick these by throwing darts or what?

[blukeys]

They're overrated....

;)

They always are!!!! :)

[ursus arctos horribilis]

They always are!!!! :)

http://awesomegifs.com/wp-content/uploads/oh-snap.gif

[alvinkayak6]

Overall, I think this is pretty accurate. I like that William & Mary is not the highest ranked CAA team and that Nova is no longer ranked.

[JMUNJ08]

(see bolded comments :D)

13 James Madison Dukes 1472 0

JMU has wins over potential NEC contender Central Conneticut State and then ranked Big South contender Liberty on the road. I think that is better than most at this point in time. Yes, they were close games, but a win is a win right? Without much to go on I think they are pretty good.

[Fear the Bird]

And I thought they smoked a lot of pot at App. Did you pick these by throwing darts or what?

Sarcasm just gets lost on some people...

[Grizzaholic]

JESUS.....

[frozennorth]

And I thought they smoked a lot of pot at App. Did you pick these by throwing darts or what?

You just done got trolled there son. Yessirree.

[I-16Bandit]

Poor, BJ.

Sucks.

[appfan2008]

in years past i could click on ags poll and see my previous polls why cant i this year?

[superman7515]

Because it gets emailed to you.

[bisonnation]

At least AGS knows the difference between NDSU, SDSU, UND, and USD. This looks about right. And I like how this poll actually gives Cal Poly a higher ranking than SDSU and how it gives USD credit for beating Eastern Washington and having a better record than them!

[darell1976]

Most coaches don't even vote and have their SIDs do it. They don't have the time to follow what others are doing other than the team next on their schedule.


What is SID??

[superman7515]

Sports Information Director

[darell1976]

Sports Information Director

Thank you!!

[ursus arctos horribilis]

Because it gets emailed to you.

All of you voters should have also received an email that allows you to look at your vote history as well.

[veinup]

montana top 10? interesting..

[darell1976]

All of you voters should have also received an email that allows you to look at your vote history as well.

I got mine..Thanks uah!!! Its amazing to see what teams you had ranked in preseason suddenly vanish.

[Grizzaholic]

montana top 10? interesting..

Yes.

[GeauxLions94]

With starting QB Nathan Dick out with concussions and All SLC defender Frank Newsome out also, UCA is about to SLIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDEEEEEEE EEEEEEE
down that poll ladder. xlolx

But i'm glad coach is thinking about his players health and not temporary wins or close wins. Maybe they will get healthy in time for a shot at the playoffs. xcoolx

Cueing Jim Mora in 3, 2 ....

Playoffs? Playoffs? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qwq7BY)

[veinup]

i understand that it's an "as it stands now" type poll, and UM is coming off a big big conference win. i just have zero confidence in our coach, and am pretty skeptical about our qb. looking forward, i don't know if this top ten status will hold.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

i understand that it's an "as it stands now" type poll, and UM is coming off a big big conference win. i just have zero confidence in our coach, and am pretty skeptical about our qb. looking forward, i don't know if this top ten status will hold.

Ok, you may be right, nobody knows at this point. What is it about the QB that you don't have confidence in. Which QB that we've had did you have confidence in...going back from this year?

10-5 in the first fifteen games and he's played Tennessee, Last years NC twice, & a slew of top 20-25 teams in that stretch. What exactly is it that we need to do to give a guy a break on the coaching?

I ain't saying we're world beaters yet but we've done as much to be a top 10 team right now as anyone else. This team is not even close to the potential I'm seeing out there and we will have a set back here and there but they are getting incrementally better.

[TheRevSFA]

How the poll should read.

1-24 - Chattanooga
25 - Chattanooga's second string

[Squealofthepig]

How the poll should read.

1-24 - Chattanooga
25 - Chattanooga's second string

Why are you hating on the Mocs' second string???

[TheRevSFA]

Why are you hating on the Mocs' second string???

It was iffy putting them there, honestly. I don't know if they show the same championship drive....though I guess it doesn't matter as Jesus himself said that Chatty will always be FCS champions.

[aceinthehole]

AGS Top 25 September 19, 2011

Others recieving votes:

26 Towson Tigers 247 0
27 Old Dominion Monarchs 233 0
28 Maine Black Bears 214 0
29 Cal Poly Mustangs 155 0
30 Murray State Racers 154 0
31 Youngstown State Penguins 145 0
32 Holy Cross Crusaders 141 0
33 Central Arkansas Bears 106 0
34 Weber State Wildcats 88 0
35 Eastern Kentucky Colonels 61 0
36 Portland State Vikings 56 0
37 Sacramento State Hornets 45 0
38 Jackson State Tigers 43 0
39 Delaware State Hornets 40 0
40 Bethune-Cookman Wildcats 37 0


No love whatsoever for CCSU?

Central Connecticut (2-1, 1-0 NEC)

Sep 3 - W vs. Southern Conn. St., 35-21 (D-II SCSU has a 2-1 record, including wins over West Liberty and St. Anselms)
Sep 10 - L at #12 James Madison, 9-14 (Nationally Ranked JMU has a 2-1 record, including a win over ranked Liberty)
Sep 17 - W at Wagner, 28-24 (Wagner is 1-2 and had an impressive showing at ranked Richmond in week 2)
Sep 24 - vs. Monmouth, 12:00 PM (Monmouth has a 1-1 record, including a win at 'Nova and a loss vs. Lehigh)

[bjtheflamesfan]

I guess everybody just wanted to tick you off aceinthe hole...mission accomplished it looks like

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

No love whatsoever for CCSU?

Central Connecticut (2-1, 1-0 NEC)

Sep 3 - W vs. Southern Conn. St., 35-21 (D-II SCSU has a 2-1 record, including wins over West Liberty and St. Anselms)
Sep 10 - L at #12 James Madison, 9-14 (Nationally Ranked JMU has a 2-1 record, including a win over ranked Liberty)
Sep 17 - W at Wagner, 28-24 (Wagner is 1-2 and had an impressive showing at ranked Richmond in week 2)
Sep 24 - vs. Monmouth, 12:00 PM (Monmouth has a 1-1 record, including a win at 'Nova and a loss vs. Lehigh)

I've been giving CCSU props all year. I have them 24th this week.

[PantherRob82]

To be fair CCSU has a tendency to do this. Hang close with one decent team and beat a couple cupcakes, then lose a couple in conference. They will definitely get the respect if they deserve it. A lot of season left.

[PantherRob82]

Also, the recap of the game makes it sound a little less impressive.



HARRISONBURG, Va. -- James Madison fought off a late rally to beat Central Connecticut State 14-9 on Saturday night.

With the Dukes (1-1) ahead 7-3 in the fourth quarter, tailback Dae'Quan Scott ran for an 8-yard touchdown that increased their lead to 14-3. Scott finished with 138 yards on 20 carries.

The Dukes forced the Blue Devils to punt from their own 2, setting up a short drive from the Central Connecticut State 34-yard line.

James Madison's defense held firm in the fourth quarter, stopping Central Connecticut State on two of their three fourth-quarter drives. Stephon Robertson finished with 14 tackles on the night.

The Blue Devils scored their only touchdown on a Chris Tolbert 3-yard run as time expired. Tolbert finished with 18 yards on five carries and Brian Fowler led the way with 93 yards on 21 carries.

Like I said, if they deserve respect, I think they'll get it. But scoring 9 4th quarter points with 6 of them being as time expired doesn't sound too impressive. Seems like a good defensive effort though.

I would think JMU's defense would want to keep the points off the board, but who knows in an 11 point game with no chance they could lose. I'd like a JMU fans perspective.

[Twentysix]

All I can remeber about CCSU is that they made nick mertens look like elway...I have a hard time believing that they are any good.

[FargoBison]

All I can remeber about CCSU is that they made nick mertens look like elway...I have a hard time believing that they are any good.

No doubt if we had them on our schedule everyone would be babbling endlessly about how bad they are.

[Squealofthepig]

No doubt if we had them on our schedule everyone would be babbling endlessly about how bad they are.

Smack or not, all voters should - at the very least - have Central Connecticut on their radar.

[alvinkayak6]

I'm with Squeal.

[chattanoogamocs]

It was iffy putting them there, honestly. I don't know if they show the same championship drive....though I guess it doesn't matter as Jesus himself said that Chatty will always be FCS champions.

I can't believe y'all left out the Mocs practice squad (they don't get the attention because they have dumb down their talent to imitate the opposing teams each week...do you know how hard it is to dial down that much awesomeness???)

It just shows what a joke these early season polls are. But it's alright, by the end of the season, they will be up in the polls and in the hunt (with ASU and GSU) for the 4th team in the playoffs from the SoCon (the other three teams being the Mocs 1st, 2nd and 3rd teams)

My biggest concern is that the committee will invariably put 3 of the 4 Mocs playoffs teams on one side of the bracket and have them beat up on each other (the NCAA has always had a grudge against the Mocs, that's why Al Gore invented the APR)

But, it is still a safe bet you will see an all Mocs final anyway. I hear that ESPN is trying to convince the NCAA to let the different Mocs teams host (at Finley Stadium, aka God's 100 yard patch of Heaven on Earth) on Friday AND Saturday to maximize ratings.

Good news is, they're are already planning on 8,000 temporary bleachers in the west endzone and they are going to let people by tickets on the grassy hill on the east endzone, that will get capacity up to almost 40,000. That is not optimal considering the demand, but hey, you just have to make the best with what you have.

[Twentysix]

If that happens, the FCS championship will be moved to espn5 AKA the disney channel.

Maximize viewership.

[Walkon79]

Here's mine (puts on fire suit):

1: Georgia Southern Eagles
2: Appalachian State Mountaineers
3: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
4: Wofford Terriers
5: Richmond Spiders
6: William & Mary Tribe
7: Northern Iowa Panthers
8: Montana State Bobcats
9: Montana Grizzlies
10: North Dakota State Bison
11: Lehigh Mountain Hawks
12: James Madison Dukes
13: Chattanooga Mocs
14: Southern Illinois Salukis
15: Stephen F. Austin Lumberjacks
16: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
17: McNeese State Cowboys
18: Sam Houston State Bearkats
19: Liberty Flames
20: South Dakota Coyotes
21: Southern Utah Thunderbirds
22: Towson Tigers
23: Maine Black Bears
24: Cal Poly Mustangs
25: Sacramento State Hornets

Eastern Homer!!

[chattanoogamocs]

If that happens, the FCS championship will be moved to espn5 AKA the disney channel.

Maximize viewership.

Come on now...it would be perfect for ESPN Ocho.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/ESPN-8-The-Ocho/315651260820

[Twentysix]

Come on now...it would be perfect for ESPN Ocho.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/ESPN-8-The-Ocho/315651260820

Or PPV. 144.99 for single use access to the FCS championship. 12000.00 for a business. NO ONE CAN WATCH!!!!@#!@#!@!!!

[darell1976]

Or PPV. 144.99 for single use access to the FCS championship. 12000.00 for a business.

I am surprised with ESPN's College football package that they don't start one up for the FCS. Of course they would jack the price up since demand wouldn't be as great as the FBS. Anything for money.

[Twentysix]

I am surprised with ESPN's College football package that they don't start one up for the FCS. Of course they would jack the price up since demand wouldn't be as great as the FBS. Anything for money.

ESPN is to TV providers what Oil companies are to Car manufacturers. When I worked for a cable company, I was told offhand things like ESPN is 80% of the cost of a basic cable package(for the company I worked for). They have to subsidize it in everyones bill or its unaffordable. Thank espn, cause without them...basic cable would be like 7 bucks a month.

[darell1976]

ESPN is to TV providers what Oil companies are to Car manufacturers. When I worked for a cable company, I was told offhand things like ESPN is 80% of the cost of a basic cable package(for the company I worked for). They have to subsidize it in everyones bill or its unaffordable.

Thats why my Cableone bill is high. Damn you ESPN.

[Twentysix]

Thats why my Cableone bill is high. Damn you ESPN.

Cableone was the company I worked for. I would assume it is the same way for all washington post owned cable companies, well probably pretty similar for all cable companies not called Comcast cox or timewarner+dish and direct.

[BlueHenSinfonian]

I am surprised with ESPN's College football package that they don't start one up for the FCS. Of course they would jack the price up since demand wouldn't be as great as the FBS. Anything for money.

If there was an FCS Football equivalent to the NFL Sunday Ticket (access to every single game in the FCS) I would switch providers and buy the package in a heartbeat.

[Twentysix]

If there was an FCS Football equivalent to the NFL Sunday Ticket (access to every single game in the FCS) I would switch providers and buy the package in a heartbeat.

It would be $950/season. Or more.

[BlueHenSinfonian]

It would be $950/season. Or more.

If they priced it at $350 like DirecTV does with the NFL Sunday Ticket I think they would get a lot of takers. There are a lot of FCS fans out there who now live too far away from their schools to attend games in person, but would love to still be able to watch. Plus, unlike BCS team fans we don't have the luxury of most of our games just ending up on national TV anyway.

[Twentysix]

Not like for nfl..it will not have subscriber quanity. It will however take up more bandwidth due to way more games. The only way it would be feasible would be to package it with an FBS/BCS games to boost the subs. But I would think BCS teams have tv contracts that would make that sort of deal illegal.