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carney2
September 3rd, 2011, 08:49 PM
Sorry, folks, I will not be available for a few days and need to post now.

The League did not do as badly in week 1 vs. OOC foes as some folks predicted.

Anyway, it is hard to believe that multiple count-in-the-standings League games are being played this early.

WEEK 2 GAMES:

New Hampshire @ LEHIGH

COLGATE @ HOLY CROSS

Marist @ BUCKNELL

LAFAYETTE @ GEORGETOWN

Bye: FORDHAM


The Patriot League is 4-3 Year-to-Date vs. OOC:

vs. Big East 0-1
vs. CAA 0-1
vs. MVFC 0-1
vs. NEC 3-0
vs. PFL 1-0


STANDINGS:
(Patriot League W-L is listed first, followed by overall W-L)
Bucknell 0-0, 1-0
Colgate 0-0, 1-0
Georgetown 0-0, 1-0
Lehigh 0-0, 1-0
Fordham* 0-0, 0-1
Holy Cross 0-0, 0-1
Lafayette 0-0, 0-1

*Ineligible for League championship and auto-bid.

DC 'gater
September 4th, 2011, 02:49 PM
UNH

COLGATE

BUCKNELL

LAFAYETTE

RichH2
September 4th, 2011, 03:24 PM
Geez, Carney no chance to revel. Must face the reality of a very peeved NH team. Being a hopeless homerxshakefistx I am going to waste my perfect record of last week '
LEHIGH
GATE
BUCKNELL
PARDS

DFW HOYA
September 4th, 2011, 03:45 PM
Lehigh 30, New Hampshire 23
Colgate 24, Holy Cross 21
Bucknell 16, Marist 6
Georgetown 19, Lafayette 16

van
September 4th, 2011, 05:35 PM
Did not hear of any major injuries from week one, so here I go;

LEHIGH gets revenge on New Hampshire, I hope

I think HOLY CROSS may have just enough to get by COLGATE

BUCKNELL should be 2-0 with win over Marist

GEORGETOWN of course, can't pick LAFAYETTE cause they suck

Lehigh Football Nation
September 4th, 2011, 06:18 PM
Lehigh 30, New Hampshire 23
Colgate 24, Holy Cross 21
Bucknell 16, Marist 6
Georgetown 19, Lafayette 16

Wow.

Go...gate
September 4th, 2011, 08:30 PM
Lehigh 38, New Hampshire 35

Colgate 23, Holy Cross 21

Bucknell 24, Marist 13

Lafayette 20, Georgetown 17

ngineer
September 4th, 2011, 10:11 PM
I was stunned watching Lehigh's offense on Saturday. It's been years since seeing such efficiency on offense--no less a season opener. Granted, UNH is a different breed of cat and will be pissed over a poor showing against Toledo. Still, Lehigh's pissed over its poor showing at UNH last year, without Lum. This could be real high scoring affair. With the intensity I saw in some of the players post game, I see them on a mission. Hopefully the tropical storms or hurricanes won't affect what should be an entertaining game. Yes, I'm a homer, but after watching Saturday, I believe this a game that will be won.

Lehigh 38 UNH 31
Holy Cross 31 Colgate 28
Bucknell 27 Marist 21
Georgetown 23 Lafayette 21

RichH2
September 5th, 2011, 10:35 AM
With Lum at qb we will score points, Can we stop Decker? 2ndary has alot of challenges over the next few weeks with UNH, Yale and Liberty qbs.

GeauxLions94
September 5th, 2011, 11:39 AM
New Hampshire @ LEHIGH

COLGATE @ HOLY CROSS

Marist @ BUCKNELL

LAFAYETTE @ GEORGETOWN

TheValleyRaider
September 5th, 2011, 12:45 PM
7-0 to open the season, and a decent week for the League OOC to boot. But no time to bask in the glory, the second games approach

New Hampshire at Lehigh New Hampshire This qualifies as the most intriguing matchup. UNH is a national power, the kind Lehigh should want to beat if they're going to be seriously considered for a high level ranking. In the Hawks' favor is that the Wildcats graduated a significant amount from last year's team that won big in Durham, and you have to think at some point the Cats run of playoff teams will come to an end. Still, UNH is smarting a bit from the beating they took at Toledo, and may be ready to take it out on the hosts. No result here would surprise me, especially with Lehigh riding high on confidence and boasting a strong and atmospheric home crowd, but I just don't have the courage to take the Hawks this time

Colgate at Holy Cross Colgate This represents the most important matchup, at least as far as the League standings are concerned. I predicted HC to finish a solid 3rd in the League, but they could absolutely knock off both Colgate and Lehigh to take the crown again. There is something not quite right about Colgate and Holy Cross facing each other in the season's second game for a number of reasons, but that's exacerbated by the meaning this game could carry for the standings. I feel better about Colgate's chances seeing McCarney in action, but the pass defense is going to have to tighten up against Taggart's gang. A strong run game between McCarney and Eachus will allow the defense to rest, and hopefully control the game. Should be a very interesting matchup

Marist at Bucknell Bucknell This is the most unmentionable matchup. Not because of anything particularly negative about the Bison or Red Foxes, but mostly because it's the matchup with the least going on this weekend. Much respect to the Bison for the big home comeback against Duquesne in Week 1. Marist beat Sacred Heart, who isn't going to scare any PL team, and while I'll always have a soft spot for my hometown Foxes, Bucknell suddenly starts the year with a 2-0 bang

Lafayette at Georgetown Georgetown And here is the most unpredictable matchup. Georgetown put away Davidson in what appears to have been relatively easy fashion, while the Leopards took one on the chin in Fargo. For the Leopards, their complete lack of offense was worrisome, even when credit is given for NDSU's strong defense. Last year's Hoya win was a surprise upset at the time, though it may have presaged the Leopards poor campaign. I went back and forth several times before settling on the home team in this one. Whatever the result, I don't see either of these teams in the championship conversation with LU/CU/HC

RichH2
September 5th, 2011, 02:12 PM
Dont forget we played UNH up there last yr without Lum. Colvin was not ready last yr and got taken to schoolby UNH D

Fordham
September 5th, 2011, 02:29 PM
Lehigh
HC
Bucknell
Gtown

thewholebit
September 5th, 2011, 05:29 PM
NH, HC, Bucknell, Lafayette. Georgetown isn't that good, it's just that its week 1 opponent, Davidson, is a high school team.

CFBfan
September 5th, 2011, 06:55 PM
NH, HC, Bucknell, Lafayette. Georgetown isn't that good, it's just that its week 1 opponent, Davidson, is a high school team.

just curious: how many GTown games did you see last year? Did you watch their game against Davidson on Sat? Or is that just your "take" on them?

The Cats
September 6th, 2011, 07:14 AM
Lehigh
Colgate
Bucknell
Georgetown

PAllen
September 6th, 2011, 11:40 AM
New Hampshire @ LEHIGH

COLGATE @ HOLY CROSS

Marist @ BUCKNELL

LAFAYETTE @ GEORGETOWN

Bye: FORDHAM

thewholebit
September 6th, 2011, 06:58 PM
just curious: how many GTown games did you see last year? Did you watch their game against Davidson on Sat? Or is that just your "take" on them?


Not a knock on Georgetown - a knock on Davidson. Saw them multiple times last year, heard the rhetoric about their new offensive philosophy, followed their recruting, etc. Patriot League followers may not realize just how bad they are and over estimate this win.

Pard4Life
September 6th, 2011, 07:19 PM
The first Davidson poster in AGS history??

thewholebit
September 6th, 2011, 07:24 PM
The first Davidson poster in AGS history??


LOL - nope, while I am new to this site, I am still aware it is for college football, not high school. I'll post about Davidson on NC Preps.....

Ivytalk
September 6th, 2011, 08:18 PM
Lehigh
Holy Cross
Bucknell
Lafayette

ngineer
September 6th, 2011, 11:38 PM
Lehigh
Holy Cross
Bucknell
Lafayette

Thanks for the moral support IT! Lehigh's going to draft on the mojo of the Phillies! (;-)

WildPard
September 7th, 2011, 05:35 AM
NH, HC, Bucknell, Lafayette. Georgetown isn't that good, it's just that its week 1 opponent, Davidson, is a high school team.

Since Davidson beat Campbell, Marist, and Morehead last year doea that make them middle school teams. If Georgetown knocks off Lafayette again this year, does Lafayette join the same middle school conference? Next time you attend a Davidson game please stop by the parents' tailgate. I'd like to see what real stupidity looks like in the flesh.

thewholebit
September 7th, 2011, 06:57 AM
Since Davidson beat Campbell, Marist, and Morehead last year doea that make them middle school teams. If Georgetown knocks off Lafayette again this year, does Lafayette join the same middle school conference? Next time you attend a Davidson game please stop by the parents' tailgate. I'd like to see what real stupidity looks like in the flesh.

1. Yes, it does.

2. Seeing "real stupidity" would be a better alternative to what takes place on the field, I suppose, so will do.

Pard4Life
September 7th, 2011, 08:30 AM
Way to go Georgetown for not allowing the game to be televised... way to go...

crusader11
September 7th, 2011, 08:32 AM
Way to go Georgetown for not allowing the game to be televised... way to go...

Unbelievable. Just read Reinhard's piece on that. Absolutely ridiculous. Georgetown simply doesn't "get it" with regard to football. I'd have no qualms seeing them leave the league.

danefan
September 7th, 2011, 08:39 AM
New Hampshire @ LEHIGH

COLGATE @ HOLY CROSS

Marist @ BUCKNELL

LAFAYETTE @ GEORGETOWN

Big game up at HC! Colgate is a really strong team. Gavin McCarney is the real deal and Eachus just eats up yards. Rooting for 'Gate the rest of the way!

Pard4Life
September 7th, 2011, 08:58 AM
Georgetown says the game is on a "tape delay" on a Verizon network in the DC area. Can't RCN block out the game in DC? Doesn't Verizon and Gtown know that nobody watches tape delay games, especially of programs that are not even known to exist? Yep, spoil it for the rest of us. I wish the president and administrators would show up at games, because it wouldn't be right to boo and taunt the players.

Franks Tanks
September 7th, 2011, 09:10 AM
Unbelievable. Just read Reinhard's piece on that. Absolutely ridiculous. Georgetown simply doesn't "get it" with regard to football. I'd have no qualms seeing them leave the league.

I don't get it. The most ridiculous part is that Lafayette games are on TV for RCN subscribers in the DC area. This is a chance for Georgetown to have a live TV game in their own market without doing anything, yet they refuse to allow LSN to set-up shop.

Franks Tanks
September 7th, 2011, 09:12 AM
Since Davidson beat Campbell, Marist, and Morehead last year doea that make them middle school teams. If Georgetown knocks off Lafayette again this year, does Lafayette join the same middle school conference? Next time you attend a Davidson game please stop by the parents' tailgate. I'd like to see what real stupidity looks like in the flesh.

If Lafayette loses to Georgetown for the second year in a row I will be wearing a leopard spotted paper bag to any subsequent games I may attend.

Lehigh Football Nation
September 7th, 2011, 09:15 AM
The TV decision is unusual for a whole host of reasons.

By all accounts, Lafayette's president really went to the mat for Georgetown to oppose scholarships in the now-infamous presidents "meeting" - and this is how they repay them?

Lafayette's TV situation isn't beloved in all quarters, but every school in the Patriot League has always accommodated the LSN crew in the past, correctly surmising that it's better to have the extra coverage. Denying them the ability to televise at MSF makes no sense - certainly not to preserve their half-deal with Verizon, which as some have said isn't really a deal at all.

Pard4Life
September 7th, 2011, 09:25 AM
Why would the other PL schools care about the LSN? We are not the SEC... I doubt we are stealing viewers from Colgate stations. And you have the more popular SE and WFMZ carrying your games, though not on the road, so what's the issue? We pay to televise games.

ps I doubt Dan Weiss cares about the TV situation.

LUHawker
September 7th, 2011, 09:45 AM
Some good games on tap this week and not easy picks.

In the marquee match-up category, it appears that Lehigh and UNH are rated about the same. One coming off a bad loss, even to a good FBS team, the other riding some momentum from a win over a middling squad. Difficult to really rate either. That being said, Lehigh has confidence, a chip on their shoulder from choking in Durham last year and the benefit of the game being its home opener. While UNH doesn't appear to have lost much in the way of its QB transition, Lehigh is looking more polished on this front. Even against Delaware last year, the team still moved the ball well. Call it a homer pick if you like, but I think Lehigh wins at home and builds its case that it is a top team this year. LU 31 - UNH 24

Colgate vs. HC - Holy early PL game on the line, batman! Colgate showed heart last week to rally and defeat Albany in OT. Eachus remains a monster and from all accounts the frosh QB acquitted himself very well. Still, HC has had Colgate's number in recent years and played a good Umass team pretty well. The game is at Fitton and I think HC's more experienced QB will likely be the difference in a nail-biter. HC 35 - CU 33

Marist and Bucknell - I think this year's Bucknell squad looks to be last year's GTown team: suprising some teams early to get some W's. The Bison go to 2-0

Lafayette at GTown - While I didn't shed any tears, I also didn't revel in the Pards' poor showing in Fargo last week. They did play a very good team, however and maybe learned a couple of things. One of them, however, was not how to win. Prior to 2010, Lehigh fans saw this movie over and over - a team that was solid, but found ways to lose, or conversely, not how to win. This Leopards of 2010 & 2011 remind me a lot of that story. Lots of hope and prayers that a freshman RB will be the answer and he may be, but not likely until next year. GTown beat a bad Davidson team, but even that is an improvement for GU vis-a-vis years past. I still think that LC is better than last year's 2-9 record, but it won't improve on that this weekend. Gtown in a close one. If LC expects to get some Ws this year, it needs to use its talented receiving corp.

DFW HOYA
September 7th, 2011, 09:46 AM
By all accounts, Lafayette's president really went to the mat for Georgetown to oppose scholarships in the now-infamous presidents "meeting" - and this is how they repay them?


Unbelievable. Just read Reinhard's piece on that. Absolutely ridiculous. Georgetown simply doesn't "get it" with regard to football. I'd have no qualms seeing them leave the league.

As to the TV issue, my guess it's a combination of a) the Verizon contract has an exclusivity clause, never mind the fact that few can see it, and b) there is not enough room for both production trucks in the pawprint that is the MSF, asuming less equipment is needed for a Web broadcast. I'm not aware of many circumstances where two full camera crews would cover the same game.

Also, Reinhard's article doesn't sound like he did more than hear about at at Tavani's news conference. It doesn't take much for a reporter to call Georgetown and get a comment or a "no comment" to further clarify the story, rather than merely complain about it as a fan would.

This is a direct byproduct of the PL's refusal to manage gameday broadcasts, largely in order to protect the local Lehigh-Lafayette networks. If the PL had rules about these sorts of things, this would never have been an issue.

alvinkayak6
September 7th, 2011, 09:52 AM
WEEK 2 GAMES:

New Hampshire @ LEHIGH 28-31

COLGATE @ HOLY CROSS 35-37

Marist @ BUCKNELL 17-31

LAFAYETTE @ GEORGETOWN 7-40

Bye: FORDHAM Fordham 28, Bye 14

kDex86
September 7th, 2011, 10:02 AM
New Hampshire at Lehigh
Colgate at Holy Cross
Marist at Bucknell
Lafayette at Georgetown

Went 6-1 last week, with my only loss being Bucknell.

alvinkayak6
September 7th, 2011, 10:30 AM
Does anybody here actually bet on PL games and make $?? I'm not endorsing gambling. I just thought with all the inside Patriot knowledge here, you all might have a leg up on the spread.

TheValleyRaider
September 7th, 2011, 10:33 AM
Since we're talking about TV broadcasts, is Holy Cross doing any kind of video online for this one, or am I stuck with the radio? xconfusedx

RichH2
September 7th, 2011, 11:32 AM
Doubt there is a bookie outside the LV that would take any action on PL games. Even tho we have a casino

WildPard
September 7th, 2011, 11:41 AM
If Lafayette loses to Georgetown for the second year in a row I will be wearing a leopard spotted paper bag to any subsequent games I may attend.

Franks--I'll be pulling for Lafayette, but I have to say that Georgetown is much better than last year-bigger, stronger, and faster. After seeing them last year, I never thought they would beat Lafayette-especially in Easton. After seeing them this year, I think it will be a close one in DC.

WildPard
September 7th, 2011, 11:44 AM
1. Yes, it does.

2. Seeing "real stupidity" would be a better alternative to what takes place on the field, I suppose, so will do.

I'll be there every home game. Looking forward to meeting you in person. Please let me know what games you'll be attending.

Franks Tanks
September 7th, 2011, 11:44 AM
Franks--I'll be pulling for Lafayette, but I have to say that Georgetown is much better than last year-bigger, stronger, and faster. After seeing them last year, I never thought they would beat Lafayette-especially in Easton. After seeing them this year, I think it will be a close one in DC.

I don't doubt that Georgetown is better than last year, but it says a lot about our program if we lose to the Hoyas two years in a row.

Andy
September 7th, 2011, 11:54 AM
Does anybody here actually bet on PL games and make $?? I'm not endorsing gambling. I just thought with all the inside Patriot knowledge here, you all might have a leg up on the spread.

I've never wagered on PL games, but if you'd care to backup your Georgetown 40 Lafayette 7 prediction it would be a good place to start.

RichH2
September 7th, 2011, 11:55 AM
Does anybody here actually bet on PL games and make $?? I'm not endorsing gambling. I just thought with all the inside Patriot knowledge here, you all might have a leg up on the spread.

For info Only, Bassets has UNH favored by 7 points

Go Lehigh TU owl
September 7th, 2011, 11:55 AM
I've never wagered on PL games, but if you'd care to backup your Georgetown 40 Lafayette 7 prediction it would be a good place to start.

If there's a "guy" on the South Side willing to give me Lafayette +33 i'll bite!

RichH2
September 7th, 2011, 12:06 PM
If there's a "guy" on the South Side willing to give me Lafayette +33 i'll bite!

Back in the day ( prehistoric), could always do football pools and LV games, even HS, at the Grotto.

Bogus Megapardus
September 7th, 2011, 12:36 PM
Colgate over Holy Cross 24-21
New Hampshire over Lehigh 31-28
Bucknell over Marist 24-21
Georgetown over Lafayette 28-17

jimbo65
September 7th, 2011, 12:56 PM
Granted the score was lopsided but did you ever think you would see PL fball stats showing 0-1 v. Big East.

Mountainhawks prevail at home.

Raiders win on the road

Beak up the Bisons, two in a row going for three next week versus Cardinal Hayes.

Leopards claw Dawgs.

Rams easily handle the Byes.

TheValleyRaider
September 7th, 2011, 01:09 PM
Granted the score was lopsided but did you ever think you would see PL fball stats showing 0-1 v. Big East.

A long, long time ago, in a galaxy known as 2010:

Colgate Falls to Syracuse at the Dome (http://gocolgateraiders.com/news/2010/9/25/FB_0925104034.aspx?path=football)

ngineer
September 7th, 2011, 01:41 PM
Does anybody here actually bet on PL games and make $?? I'm not endorsing gambling. I just thought with all the inside Patriot knowledge here, you all might have a leg up on the spread.

I've actually made a few bucks the past three years on a certain game played the Saturday before Thanksgiving.;):D

jimbo65
September 7th, 2011, 02:33 PM
A long, long time ago, in a galaxy known as 2010:

Colgate Falls to Syracuse at the Dome (http://gocolgateraiders.com/news/2010/9/25/FB_0925104034.aspx?path=football)

Totally forgot about that one. Well the marrons & whites are two of a kind.

jayhawkdaddy
September 7th, 2011, 04:53 PM
New Hampshire
Holy Cross
Bucknell
Lafayette

carney2
September 7th, 2011, 08:29 PM
New Hampshire @ LEHIGH – I'm sure that some of the CAA folks still see this as another Patsy pushover. Surprise!

COLGATE @ HOLY CROSS – I was more impressed with the Cross loss than the 'gate win.

Marist @ BUCKNELL – I was prepared to ignore the Bufs for 12 whole weeks. Oh well.

LAFAYETTE @ GEORGETOWN – The Hoyas are demanding respect. The Pards are looking like “same as last year.” Logic was saying Hoyas until they refused permission for Lafayette to televise the game. Programs with a chance to win want to be on TV.

LUHawker
September 7th, 2011, 08:43 PM
New Hampshire @ LEHIGH – I'm sure that some of the CAA folks still see this as another Patsy pushover. Surprise!

COLGATE @ HOLY CROSS – I was more impressed with the Cross loss than the 'gate win.

Marist @ BUCKNELL – I was prepared to ignore the Bufs for 12 whole weeks. Oh well.

LAFAYETTE @ GEORGETOWN – The Hoyas are demanding respect. The Pards are looking like “same as last year.” Logic was saying Hoyas until they refused permission for Lafayette to televise the game. Programs with a chance to win want to be on TV.

I picked GTown, but your logic regarding the refusal to allow televising of the game on LSN is hard to argue with.

Bogus Megapardus
September 7th, 2011, 09:02 PM
Logic was saying Hoyas until they refused permission for Lafayette to televise the game. Programs with a chance to win want to be on TV.

I understand that Georgetown has a broadcast agreement with Verizon's FiOS1 channel. I just want to dispel any notion that Georgetown's decision to barricade Multi-Sport Field against the Lafayette television crew this Saturday is the result of some sort of "exclusivity" claim under that agreement.

Princeton also has a television agreement with Verizon FiOS1. Last year's Lafayette/Princeton game was televised both on Verizon FiOS1 and Lafayette Sports Network. That didn't seem to be any problem at all. It was a great game, too. I was there.

http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/4038/princetongamenotes.jpg

It's too bad Georgetown can't try to be more like Princeton. Even just a little.

DFW HOYA
September 7th, 2011, 09:56 PM
I understand that Georgetown has a broadcast agreement with Verizon's FiOS1 channel. I just want to dispel any notion that Georgetown's decision to barricade Multi-Sport Field against the Lafayette television crew this Saturday is the result of some sort of "exclusivity" claim under that agreement.

That's fine. And exactly how do you know this?

There's a little too much indignation and "How dare they..." coming out of some Lafayette fans without some level of reporting as to why the decision was made.

Go...gate
September 7th, 2011, 10:26 PM
The point is, why not let LC show the damn game on TV?

RattlerFan70
September 8th, 2011, 12:52 AM
New Hampshire @ LEHIGH

COLGATE @ HOLY CROSS

Marist @ BUCKNELL

LAFAYETTE @ GEORGETOWN

ngineer
September 8th, 2011, 08:15 AM
Could it be logistics? I mean Georgetown's facilities, especially, the press box size and cramped quarters all around could make it difficult for two tv broadcasting crews to maneuver..Just a thought.

crusader11
September 8th, 2011, 08:19 AM
Could it be logistics? I mean Georgetown's facilities, especially, the press box size and cramped quarters all around could make it difficult for two tv broadcasting crews to maneuver..Just a thought.

That is a distinct possibility. Opposing teams would film the game from a football player's dorm room, so this should give you an idea of how tight for space Georgetown is for filming. Division 1 football, huh?

DFW HOYA
September 8th, 2011, 08:28 AM
That is a distinct possibility. Opposing teams would film the game from a football player's dorm room, so this should give you an idea of how tight for space Georgetown is for filming. Division 1 football, huh?

It still beats playing on a roof.

Pard4Life
September 8th, 2011, 08:47 AM
New Hampshire 34, Lehigh 17... back to reality on South Mountain.

Holy Cross 24, Colgate 21... Game of the week! HC did well against UMass and Colgate still needs to adjust on defense. These two have a competitive history, and I'm still waiting for the that slow Colgate start to rear its head. Brain says Colgate always wins but HC is more than able to win.

Bucknell 38, Marist 14... Marist is still Marist.

Lafayette 17, Georgetown 14... We have to be better than the Hoyas. We would have stomped them last year if not for red zone turnovers. O'Niel is better this year, but the offensive line seems like a mess. The defense is strong, and should limit the Hoyas. Apparently the Hoyas' weakness is pass defense. Will stubborn Tavani realize this and early and often exploit this weakness, or will he stick to his stubborn ways by trying to establish the run minus an OL and running back? This later point is key to the game more than anything else.

carney2
September 8th, 2011, 09:08 AM
That's fine. And exactly how do you know this?

There's a little too much indignation and "How dare they..." coming out of some Lafayette fans without some level of reporting as to why the decision was made.

I am certain, DFW, that you will get Georgetown's side of this and indignantly trumpet their party line in this space. Know in advance however that

This is some overpaid bungling bureaucrat or bureaucrats performing that miraculous, but all too common, cranium to rectum insertion. THERE IS NO REASONABLE JUSTIFICATION FOR THIS.

Southsider
September 8th, 2011, 09:17 AM
P4L, I, along with LU/TU Owl and Ngineer will gladly take you up on LU +17. We all agree it will be a difficult game, but you give LU no chance. Really??

Franks Tanks
September 8th, 2011, 09:18 AM
New Hampshire@Lehigh

UNH is still a top tier FCS team, and I think their passing game will be too much for a young Lehigh secondary. Look for Bethlehem native Joey Orlando,son of Berwick legend Bo Orlando, to have a big game in his hometown.

UNH 31- Lehigh 27


COLGATE @ Holy Cross

I was very impressed with Holy Cross, but Nate Eachus and friends will run that belly option play roughly 700 times on Saturday. I think the Cross struggles a bit defending the run, and Nate will have a big day

Colgate 38- Holy Cross 31

Marist @ BUCKNELL
Break up the Bison. Duquense is better than Marist, and Bucknell already beat the Dukes. This team is learning how to win.

Bucknell 24 -Marist 17

LAFAYETTE @ Georgetown

The game is usually ugly when Lafayette plays in DC. Lafayette looked terrible in the opener, but they are still the more talented team. Mitch Bennett is the difference for the Pards, and has a big day.

Lafayette 24- Georgetown 14

DFW HOYA
September 8th, 2011, 09:24 AM
This is some overpaid bungling bureaucrat or bureaucrats performing that miraculous, but all too common, cranium to rectum insertion. THERE IS NO REASONABLE JUSTIFICATION FOR THIS.

Maybe there is, maybe there isn't--we don't know, and it would have been helpful if Reinhard, Wilson, LoRe, et al. had made a couple of calls to find out exactly why, instead of swinging for the fences and charging all hands on deck with some grave injustice against the Marquis' college.

Pard4Life
September 8th, 2011, 10:13 AM
I think DFW is right that we do not the full story, but on it's face and judging by the smell, it's idiotic.

FT - Mitch Bennett should be challenging for the all-time single game receptions mark in this game if it is executed properly. Did not look up the Gtown DBs but I'm betting mismatch.

Franks Tanks
September 8th, 2011, 10:15 AM
I think DFW is right that we do not the full story, but on it's face and judging by the smell, it's idiotic.

FT - Mitch Bennett should be challenging for the all-time single game receptions mark in this game if it is executed properly. Did not look up the Gtown DBs but I'm betting mismatch.

I hope you're correct!

Pard4Life
September 8th, 2011, 10:15 AM
P4L, I, along with LU/TU Owl and Ngineer will gladly take you up on LU +17. We all agree it will be a difficult game, but you give LU no chance. Really??

All right I am being a bit unreasonable... +14...

Bogus Megapardus
September 8th, 2011, 12:19 PM
Mitch Bennett should be challenging for the all-time single game receptions mark in this game if it is executed properly.

Of course, we won't be able to see it happen on TV.

crusader11
September 8th, 2011, 01:44 PM
5-2 last week...

New Hampshire @ Lehigh Cats' offense is better than Hawks' offense.

COLGATE @ Holy Cross We are a better team this year with a much better run defense, and defeated the 'Gate in Hamilton last season with Sullivan at QB. No reason to believe we can't do it again.

Marist @ BUCKNELL Marist isn't as good as Duquesne, right?

LAFAYETTE @ Georgetown Going to be a long, long year in Carneyville if the Leopards begin 0-2 and lose to Georgetown for the second straight season.

bison137
September 8th, 2011, 02:19 PM
New Hampshire by 3
Colgate by 3
Bucknell by 4
Lafayette by 1

carney2
September 8th, 2011, 02:24 PM
Just some spit balling at the moment, but the early word is that since Lafayette and Georgetown have contracts with different helmet manufacturers, the Lafayette athletic administration will force the Hoyas return engagement in 2012 to be played sans head protection for the gray and blue.

RichH2
September 8th, 2011, 02:27 PM
Just some spit balling at the moment, but the early word is that since Lafayette and Georgetown have contracts with different helmet manufacturers, the Lafayette athletic administration will force the Hoyas return engagement in 2012 to be played sans head protection for the gray and blue.

Carney back to your old tricks. Laughed so hard spilled my g&t.

crusader11
September 8th, 2011, 02:32 PM
spilled my g&t.

Day drinking? Pretty jealous.

Bogus Megapardus
September 8th, 2011, 02:36 PM
Just some spit balling at the moment, but the early word is that since Lafayette and Georgetown have contracts with different helmet manufacturers, the Lafayette athletic administration will force the Hoyas return engagement in 2012 to be played sans head protection for the gray and blue.

I heard the very same thing, carney. What's more, I understand that Georgetown has designated an exclusive supplier for Hoya Football deodorant. The word from 37th and O is that Dr. Jack DiGioia himself will be in the visitor's locker room conducting his personal sniff test to make sure that no Lafayette player is violating the Georgetown Deodorant Exclusivity Agreement.

Given DiGioia's sentiment that Patriot League deodorant on the whole functions at "a level below" other FCS deodorant, is is likely to be a trying afternoon for the good doctor.

Go Lehigh TU owl
September 8th, 2011, 02:55 PM
I expect some really good games this weekend.

Bucknell 27 Marist 13
Lafayette 24 Georgetown 21
Colgate 37 Holy Cross 30
Lehigh 31 UNH 27

Leopard Loyalist
September 8th, 2011, 03:13 PM
New Hampshire over Lehigh
Colgate over Holy Cross
Bucknell over Marist
Lafayette over Georgetown

LUHawker
September 8th, 2011, 04:17 PM
Not suggesting there isn't any bias or wishful thinking going on here..cough, cough, but very few, if any, Leopards fans have picked Lehigh to win.

crusader11
September 8th, 2011, 04:23 PM
Not suggesting there isn't any bias or wishful thinking going on here..cough, cough, but very few, if any, Leopards fans have picked Lehigh to win.

Could be because UNH is either the favorite or better team...

van
September 8th, 2011, 04:57 PM
Could be because UNH is either the favorite or better team...

Not according to Sports Network:

What to know: This is one of the marquee match-ups of the weekend, as the preseason favorite in Patriot League, Lehigh, hosts a tough CAA opponent in the Wildcats. It also features two teams that were on the opposite ends of blowouts in Week 1.

Lehigh quarterback Chris Lum was recognized as The Sports Network/Fathead.com FCS National Co-Offensive Player of the Week after he threw for 346 yards and four touchdowns in a 49-24 win against Monmouth.

New Hampshire was handed a 58-22 loss by FBS opponent Toledo and the Wildcats defense looked awful, allowing 582 yards of total offense. Toledo converted on an amazing 13 of 19 third-down conversions.

Prediction: Lehigh 24, New Hampshire 21

crusader11
September 8th, 2011, 05:11 PM
So one writers quick glance at the match up tells us everything we need to know? [Insert witty comment from Bogey / Carney]

Bogus Megapardus
September 8th, 2011, 05:19 PM
So one writers quick glance at the match up tells us everything we need to know? [Insert witty comment from Bogey / Carney]

Pretty much. It certainly means that I'd pick Toledo and lay the points over Monmouth U., should the occasion arise.



Not suggesting there isn't any bias or wishful thinking going on here..cough, cough, but very few, if any, Leopards fans have picked Lehigh to win.

I'm to busy indelibly inscribing "Georgetown University" onto every blacklist in my possession even to think about unwarrantably bashing Lehigh at the moment.

That will change presently, I'm sure.

DFW HOYA
September 8th, 2011, 05:51 PM
Finally, something official and not just idle suspicion:

"LSN-TV was denied the television rights because of Georgetown's agreement with Verizon Fios1, which is televising the game on a tape-delay basis exclusively in the Washington, D.C. market."

http://www.goleopards.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/090811aaa.html

Bogus Megapardus
September 8th, 2011, 06:22 PM
Finally, something official and not just idle suspicion:

"LSN-TV was denied the television rights because of Georgetown's agreement with Verizon Fios1, which is televising the game on a tape-delay basis exclusively in the Washington, D.C. market."

http://www.goleopards.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/090811aaa.html

The term, "exclusively in the Washington, D.C. market" is taken straight out of Verizon's spoon-fed, consumer consumption press releases. It's nonsense language that would not appear in a formal agreement. I've seen that phrase in Verizon press missives about a dozen times over the last few days. Since Lafayette is the one adversely affected by this, was anyone on our end shown a copy of the agreement to see if that's what it REALLY says? And WHEN, exactly, is this "broadcast" supposed to take place?

I'm sure that LSN can arrange quite easily to be certain that it never, ever broadcasts any sporting event involving Georgetown, "in the Washington, D.C. market." Then again, "the Washington, D.C. market" to the north stops roughly at Olney, Maryland. Everything beyond that is Baltimore.

I'm willing to bet anybody here, any amount of money, that the "exclusively in the Washington, D.C. market" language supposedly in this agreement DOES NOT cover a live, over-the-air television broadcast produced by a non-profit educational institution for consumption in the Lehigh Valley/Philadelphia area. Verizon is not in the broadcast business. It is not licensed to broadcast. It has no legal, protectable interest in preventing a live, over-the-air television broadcast outside of its production area - even if it thinks it does, and even if it has tried to pursuade Georgetown that it does.

I'm also willing to be any amount of money that Georgetown will never provide Lafayette with the opportunity to determine that for itself, even though Georgetown has known for over a year that Lafayette was planning this broadcast.

I smell BS, and I'm going to get to the bottom of this, one way or another. Win or lose this game, I'm going to make sure that this never, ever happens again. And I'd love, more than anything, to have five minutes face to face with the person who made this decision.


.
NB: The Lafayette release linked to above also notes, "LSN-TV has broadcast all Leopard football games for the past eight seasons, including the last four at Georgetown." As you know, Georgetown's supposedly "exclusive" deal with Verizon has been in place since 2007. So what gives?

Lehigh Football Nation
September 8th, 2011, 08:30 PM
I'm with Bogus on this. It's very unclear why a *tape-delayed* game viewable only in the DC area is preventing the, oh, say, 100,000 viewers in the Easton Area from viewing the game live. There has to be more to this story.

I just thought that, in the Patriot League, any quasi-national coverage would be extremely welcome. The only conclusion one can come to is that Georgetown doesn't want it's team playing on national TV. Which is silly.

carney2
September 8th, 2011, 08:48 PM
Not suggesting there isn't any bias or wishful thinking going on here..cough, cough, but very few, if any, Leopards fans have picked Lehigh to win.

Directing your attention to item no. 53 in this thread, I respectfully request that in the future you perform proper research before making blanket condemnations of the loyal opposition.

LUHawker
September 8th, 2011, 08:51 PM
Could be because UNH is either the favorite or better team...

11,

You are either trying to be a wiseas$ or are incredibly naive. Either way, pull your head out of the sand and smarten up.

LUHawker
September 8th, 2011, 08:55 PM
Directing your attention to item no. 53 in this thread, I respectfully request that in the future you perform proper research before making blanket condemnations of the loyal opposition.

Proper research required more effort than I had time for, Carney. Hence my catch-all approach. Still, the broader observation holds.

DFW HOYA
September 8th, 2011, 09:06 PM
Again, some of the posts above jump to conclusions without much in the way of documentation. The game is available tape-delayed across the Verizon FiOs marketplace, which reaches homes up the eastern seaboard (one Georgetown fan in NJ noted he saw the Davidson game during this week, and the MSF looked terrible.) Will it get much attention? Probably not, but that's their call because they produce the coverage.


The only conclusion one can come to is that Georgetown doesn't want it's team playing on national TV. Which is silly.

Or...Verizon enforces exclusivity for its broadcast productions. It didn't ban LSN online, but it may consider LSN as a competitor as defined in the cable marketplace. (Cable carriers/networks are notoriously territorial.) In either event, the PL bylaws cede control of broadcasts not covered by CBS to the home team and the commissioner is the final arbiter of any disputes. Femovich might have reviewed the contract and figured out they had the riight to do so.

Again, instead of yelling at the clouds, let's look for some reporting on the matter.

CrusaderBob
September 8th, 2011, 09:29 PM
Maybe Georgetown wanted to end the limbo by getting an up or down vote on scholarships and is still angry at Weiss' public statements?? xdontknowx xsmiley_wix

Bogus Megapardus
September 8th, 2011, 10:28 PM
Verizon enforces exclusivity for its broadcast productions. It didn't ban LSN online, but it may consider LSN as a competitor as defined in the cable marketplace. (Cable carriers/networks are notoriously territorial.) In either event, the PL bylaws cede control of broadcasts not covered by CBS to the home team and the commissioner is the final arbiter of any disputes.

1. Verizon's official, legal position, as expressed in its court documents, is that live broadcasts of sporting events (at least those broadcast by its competitors when Verizon wants, but can't have, a piece of it) are "unique" and and are not subject to exclusivity agreements.

2. PL bylaws cede control of broadcasts not covered by CBS to the home team and the commissioner is the final arbiter of any disputes. This can only mean that Georgetown prefers NOT to have a live broadcast of its league home opener appear on national television, and that it is willing to force a league partner to stand down in order to make it so. That says a lot.

At the end of the day, if Georgetown wanted this broadcast to happen, it could make it happen. Instead, it spews platitudes about market exclusivity and a hypothetical tape-delayed replay that appears nowhere on FiOS1 schedules within the next two weeks. Clearly, Georgetown does not want it to happen. Why not simply say so?

crusader11
September 8th, 2011, 10:31 PM
11,

You are either trying to be a wiseas$ or are incredibly naive. Either way, pull your head out of the sand and smarten up.

Is it really so clear cut that Lehigh is better than UNH? What did I miss?

ngineer
September 8th, 2011, 10:48 PM
Legalities aside, I just find it incredulous that Georgetown would pass up the opportunity to have it's game televised over LSN. The exposure for recruiting purposes is huge..and think if Georgetown pulls out a win, for the second year in a row. Heck, the Georgetown coaches should be pissed as hell.

Bogus Megapardus
September 8th, 2011, 11:13 PM
Legalities aside, I just find it incredulous that Georgetown would pass up the opportunity to have it's game televised over LSN.

The attitude on Georgetown's message board seems to be reflective of the attitude of Georgetown towards its football program in general:

"Who gives a crap. I'm sorry for the 10 people affected by this gross miscarriage of justice."

For some reason, I was thinking that more than "10 people" watched Lafayette football. But hey - they're Georgetown. They know better.

Bogus Megapardus
September 9th, 2011, 05:07 AM
Here's the actual PL sportsbook (finally);

New Hampshire (-3) at Lehigh

Colgate (pk) at Holy Cross

Lafayette (-3) at Georgetown

Bucknell (-4) vs Marist

carney2
September 9th, 2011, 07:22 AM
Lafayette (-3) at Georgetown

If Lafayette wins who will know?

If Georgetown wins who will care?

Will cell phones, i-Pads and Kindles be confiscated at the gate?

Will game updates be semaphored to pony express riders outside the gate so that the world might know the outcome by October?

I think not on that last one. The world must be kept in the dark until the Fios tape delay is broadcast sometime in the spring.

I've finally figured out what a Hoya is.

CFBfan
September 9th, 2011, 08:03 AM
If Lafayette wins who will know?

If Georgetown wins who will care?

Will cell phones, i-Pads and Kindles be confiscated at the gate?

Will game updates be semaphored to pony express riders outside the gate so that the world might know the outcome by October?

I think not on that last one. The world must be kept in the dark until the Fios tape delay is broadcast sometime in the spring.

I've finally figured out what a Hoya is.

while I understand the basis of LC fan's objection (about 4 or 5 of you on this board), other than some, not all but some LC alum do you really think anyone cares?????
If you want to argue bigger picture and more League coverage maybe but I truly doubt anyone but LC alums would watch !

crusader11
September 9th, 2011, 08:12 AM
11,

You are either trying to be a wiseas$ or are incredibly naive. Either way, pull your head out of the sand and smarten up.


Here's the actual PL sportsbook (finally);

New Hampshire (-3) at Lehigh


Interesting.

Franks Tanks
September 9th, 2011, 08:38 AM
while I understand the basis of LC fan's objection (about 4 or 5 of you on this board), other than some, not all but some LC alum do you really think anyone cares?????
If you want to argue bigger picture and more League coverage maybe but I truly doubt anyone but LC alums would watch !

You have no idea how many people are reached by the LSN. It is not just the Lehigh Valley area.

"LSN's traditional live distribution to more than 10 million viewers on RCN-4, RCN-8 and WBPH-60 covering all of Eastern Pennsylvania will be enhanced again this season by live coverage on all of RCN's cable systems in major markets along the East Coast. RCN subscribers in Boston (226,000), New York City (250,000), Philadelphia (382,000) and Washington, D.C. (131,000) will be able to watch Lafayette games live on the RCN-TV networks.

Nationally, LSN telecasts will be picked up for the 11th straight year by DIRECTV and DISH Network outlets, through WBPH-60 and the Mid Atlantic Sports Network (MASN). All televised games will be available live on WBPH-60, located on channel 60 on DIRECTV and 8169 on DISH Network."

People watch. At least 3 or 4 of my co-workers attend Lafayette or Lehigh games, or watch on TV on a regular basis. They are not alums, just college football fans who enjoythe local teams. I have no idea what the ratings would be, but I guarantee more tha just alums watch the game.

CFBfan
September 9th, 2011, 08:46 AM
"People watch. At least 3 or 4 of my co-workers attend Lafayette or Lehigh games, or watch on TV on a regular basis. They are not alums, just college football fans who enjoythe local teams. I have no idea what the ratings would be, but I guarantee more tha just alums watch the game."

Point well taken Frank. I'm just taken back that a few people lashed out swiftly with accusations that GTown was intentionaly sabbotaging LC. One even post his lengthy "not based on fact" opinion on the GTown board.

carney2
September 9th, 2011, 08:55 AM
I'm just taken back that a few people lashed out swiftly with accusations that GTown was intentionaly sabbotaging LC.

Not so. Most, if not all of the "lashing out" has been because Georgetown has chosen to travel the a$$&%#e route.

Franks Tanks
September 9th, 2011, 08:59 AM
"People watch. At least 3 or 4 of my co-workers attend Lafayette or Lehigh games, or watch on TV on a regular basis. They are not alums, just college football fans who enjoythe local teams. I have no idea what the ratings would be, but I guarantee more tha just alums watch the game."

Point well taken Frank. I'm just taken back that a few people lashed out swiftly with accusations that GTown was intentionaly sabbotaging LC. One even post his lengthy "not based on fact" opinion on the GTown board.

At one end you have intentional sabatoge, and the other you have complete apathy.

Unfortunantly I am leaning more toward apathy, and the fact that the decision makers at Georgetown probably didn't even fully educate themselves on the situation.

RichH2
September 9th, 2011, 09:04 AM
I would back apathy as a frontrunner here." Who cares. I dont and Im Georgetown , you're not. "

Unnecessary divisiveness between PL partners. A little effort and goodwill by Hoyas should have avoided this situation

LUHawker
September 9th, 2011, 09:11 AM
Is it really so clear cut that Lehigh is better than UNH? What did I miss?

Unfortunately, you are not doing your school proud. The observation is that despite what should be a tight game between teams ranked essentially the same, the vast majority of LC fans are picking UNH even as there is a healthy picking of Lehigh by Lehigh and non-Lehigh fans alike. My comment goes to the deep-seated Lehigh-Lafayette rivalry and hence most LC fans are picking against LU even as the line on the game is very tight.

crusader11
September 9th, 2011, 09:11 AM
As bad as this is guys, Holy Cross is really falling short too in this department. One week they go from having a fabulous event that is nationally televised, and this week they will not even have the game streaming over the internet. The excuse they gave: "We are without a broadband producer/coordinator right now, after we lost ours to a full time position at TV3, and so are scrambling to fill this position. It's a very technical position with setup/breakdown of all the equipment as well as directing the game broadcasts, and so it is tough to find someone qualified to do it on a part-time basis."

What a joke this is...they make it sound like this happened overnight and it is some complicated science experiment in order to carry it out. If Holy Cross is truly serious and committed to their football program, this would not be an issue. Looks like I'll splurge the $6.95 to watch the UNH-Lehigh game (mute) on the internet, while HC-Colgate is just the audio.

crusader11
September 9th, 2011, 09:16 AM
Unfortunately, you are not doing your school proud. The observation is that despite what should be a tight game between teams ranked essentially the same, the vast majority of LC fans are picking UNH even as there is a healthy picking of Lehigh by Lehigh and non-Lehigh fans alike. My comment goes to the deep-seated Lehigh-Lafayette rivalry and hence most LC fans are picking against LU even as the line on the game is very tight.

Come on...you don't think I realized that? Did this Lehigh-Lafayette rivalry just happen overnight and I missed the boat? My greater point was that I believe UNH is the better team and should be favored to win...it doesn't matter if a poster has a horse in the race, the team who happens to be the favorite will most likely be picked to win. If Lehigh was playing, say, Marist and they were picking the Red Foxes to win then I would see what you're saying, but maybe many Lafayette fans happen to be picking UNH simply because they are a better team.

DFW HOYA
September 9th, 2011, 09:18 AM
"LSN's traditional live distribution to more than 10 million viewers on RCN-4, RCN-8 and WBPH-60 covering all of Eastern Pennsylvania will be enhanced again this season by live coverage on all of RCN's cable systems in major markets along the East Coast. RCN subscribers in Boston (226,000), New York City (250,000), Philadelphia (382,000) and Washington, D.C. (131,000) will be able to watch Lafayette games live on the RCN-TV networks.

I think you are covering the salient point of this discussion - LSN has ties with RCN, a cable competitor of Verizon. Verizon doesn't want to share content with something that will play on RCN. Sounds petty, but the cable TV business can get that way, sometimes.

By the way, even Georgetown students can't see the FiOs games on TV. Why? RCN is its cable provider.

RichH2
September 9th, 2011, 09:33 AM
I think you are covering the salient point of this discussion - LSN has ties with RCN, a cable competitor of Verizon. Verizon doesn't want to share content with something that will play on RCN. Sounds petty, but the cable TV business can get that way, sometimes.

By the way, even Georgetown students can't see the FiOs games on TV. Why? RCN is its cable provider.

???? GU contracted with FIOS for football telecasts that its students cant watch. I realize they may have been only offer but gosh it does ,in hindsight admittedly, seem patently absurd. Does sort of fit the apathy angle. Info flow inside GU admin must be What? Ah, the academics world and its little pigeon hole mentality

Franks Tanks
September 9th, 2011, 09:41 AM
Unfortunately, you are not doing your school proud. The observation is that despite what should be a tight game between teams ranked essentially the same, the vast majority of LC fans are picking UNH even as there is a healthy picking of Lehigh by Lehigh and non-Lehigh fans alike. My comment goes to the deep-seated Lehigh-Lafayette rivalry and hence most LC fans are picking against LU even as the line on the game is very tight.

How many squakers picked the Pards to win?

Lehigh Football Nation
September 9th, 2011, 09:53 AM
I think you are covering the salient point of this discussion - LSN has ties with RCN, a cable competitor of Verizon. Verizon doesn't want to share content with something that will play on RCN. Sounds petty, but the cable TV business can get that way, sometimes.

By the way, even Georgetown students can't see the FiOs games on TV. Why? RCN is its cable provider.

I understand this point extremely well about competing cable companies. But really, how petty can you really get? Was Verizon really that concerned that LSN/RCN might make a move in the DC market with their Leopard-themed coverage?

What is certain is that this is not over money. RCN and Verizon call these games tax write-offs and three hours of content on their networks. And Lafayette pays money to produce games, and I assume Georgetown is spending money, not making money. No, this is about something personal - because in years past, this has been no issue at all. Whether it's between Verizon and RCN or Georgetown and Lafayette, I don't know. But it is personal. It's the only possible motive.

Lehigh Football Nation
September 9th, 2011, 10:00 AM
Incidentally, here's my preview for UNH/Lehigh:

http://lehighfootballnation.blogspot.com/2011/09/game-preview-week-two-new-hampshire-at.html

Even Noah couldn't prevent me from going to this game. xlolx

carney2
September 9th, 2011, 10:04 AM
Getting to the bottom line here, what is the down side for the folks at Georgetown if one of their bureaucrats makes a short sighted, ill informed, counter productive decision?

Is Weiss going to call DiGioia? Perhaps for a restaurant recommendation in DC, but not about this.

Will the students storm the administration building? Are you kidding?!

Will this hit the for-real media and give Georgetown some sort of a black eye for their pettiness? Georgetown football in the media? What are you smoking?

Will the folks at Lafayette retaliate in some way next year? What can they do, turn off the hot water in the visiting locker room showers?

Will there be repercussions on the field Saturday night? Both of these teams have too many problems to worry about something like this.

Will it infuriate a few folks with way to much time on their hands and access to internet chat rooms? Who cares!

Bogus Megapardus
September 9th, 2011, 10:12 AM
I would back apathy as a frontrunner here." Who cares. I don't and I'm Georgetown, you're not."

I completely back the apathy theory. This decision was given three seconds of thought, at best. Then they all had to spend the rest of the week hand-wringing and self-congratulating as they got ready to watch the President's jobs speech (which was made available on the Georgetown campus through RCN cable, of course).

Lafayette is a "fifth-tier liberal arts college in boo-foo Pennsyltucky," explains one poster on the Georgetown board, which certainly gives a boost to the we-couldn't-care-less-about-you proponents.

Oddly, though, the poster himself is from Virginialbama. Small hands. Few teeth. Oddly-shapen heads. Good candidate for the Justice Department, or maybe the DOE.

CFBfan
September 9th, 2011, 10:33 AM
I completely back the apathy theory. This decision was given three seconds of thought, at best. Then they all had to spend the rest of the week hand-wringing and self-congratulating as they got ready to watch the President's jobs speech (which was made available on the Georgetown campus through RCN cable, of course).

Lafayette is a "fifth-tier liberal arts college in boo-foo Pennsyltucky," explains one poster on the Georgetown board, which certainly gives a boost to the we-couldn't-care-less-about-you proponents.

Oddly, though, the poster himself is from Virginialbama. Small hands. Few teeth. Oddly-shapen heads. Good candidate for the Justice Department, or maybe the DOE.


You posted a derogatory short story about the school you're playing this week on THEIR board (not yours, not this one but THEIR's) and expected to be congratuled and embraced??? And then take great offense at a little humor that was posted....c'mon!

Bogus Megapardus
September 9th, 2011, 10:40 AM
You posted a derogatory short story about the school you're playing this week on THEIR board (not yours, not this one but THEIR's) and expected to be congratuled and embraced??? And then take great offense at a little humor that was posted....c'mon!

I was not offended in the least. In fact, I provoked it. And they took the bait.

CFBfan
September 9th, 2011, 12:02 PM
I was not offended in the least. In fact, I provoked it. And they took the bait.

your quote on THIS board ("Lafayette is a "fifth-tier liberal arts college in boo-foo Pennsyltucky," explains one poster on the Georgetown board, which certainly gives a boost to the we-couldn't-care-less-about-you proponents.

Oddly, though, the poster himself is from Virginialbama. Small hands. Few teeth. Oddly-shapen heads. Good candidate for the Justice Department, or maybe the DOE.") NOT their board to respond would say otherwise.

ngineer
September 9th, 2011, 12:53 PM
You have no idea how many people are reached by the LSN. It is not just the Lehigh Valley area.

"LSN's traditional live distribution to more than 10 million viewers on RCN-4, RCN-8 and WBPH-60 covering all of Eastern Pennsylvania will be enhanced again this season by live coverage on all of RCN's cable systems in major markets along the East Coast. RCN subscribers in Boston (226,000), New York City (250,000), Philadelphia (382,000) and Washington, D.C. (131,000) will be able to watch Lafayette games live on the RCN-TV networks.

Nationally, LSN telecasts will be picked up for the 11th straight year by DIRECTV and DISH Network outlets, through WBPH-60 and the Mid Atlantic Sports Network (MASN). All televised games will be available live on WBPH-60, located on channel 60 on DIRECTV and 8169 on DISH Network."

People watch. At least 3 or 4 of my co-workers attend Lafayette or Lehigh games, or watch on TV on a regular basis. They are not alums, just college football fans who enjoythe local teams. I have no idea what the ratings would be, but I guarantee more tha just alums watch the game.

No question. Especially high school football players who are interested in certain schools. They watch or tape the games for later viewing if they are themselves playing at the same time. I know in speaking with recruits they do this.

Sader87
September 9th, 2011, 02:38 PM
Are any of the pl games on ham radio this weekend????

Ken_Z
September 9th, 2011, 03:09 PM
perhaps a bit off topic for this thread, but here are my weekly picks:

record last week: don't know, don't care

New Hampshire 31 @ LEHIGH 27: isn't Lehigh supposed to go 9-2 every year? so they got to lose to someone

COLGATE 35 @ HOLY CROSS 38: Raiders the only non Catholic PL team the old school Sader fans are okay having on the schedule. HC is up for this game, listen for the crowd to chant "we coulda been in the Big East you know" as the clock counts down to victory.

Marist 17 @ BUCKNELL 31: the excitement over football success is boiling over on the Bison message board. already 2 posts on the upcoming Marist game distracting us from the vital 100 post thread on 2013/14 basketball recruits

LAFAYETTE 18 @ GEORGETOWN 21: if Lafayette scores, but the game is not on LSN, do the points count? referees decision, touchdowns yes, but PATs do not.

ColgateTD
September 9th, 2011, 09:10 PM
UNH
'Gate
Bison
Pards

ngineer
September 9th, 2011, 11:29 PM
perhaps a bit off topic for this thread, but here are my weekly picks:

record last week: don't know, don't care

New Hampshire 31 @ LEHIGH 27: isn't Lehigh supposed to go 9-2 every year? so they got to lose to someone

COLGATE 35 @ HOLY CROSS 38: Raiders the only non Catholic PL team the old school Sader fans are okay having on the schedule. HC is up for this game, listen for the crowd to chant "we coulda been in the Big East you know" as the clock counts down to victory.

Marist 17 @ BUCKNELL 31: the excitement over football success is boiling over on the Bison message board. already 2 posts on the upcoming Marist game distracting us from the vital 100 post thread on 2013/14 basketball recruits

LAFAYETTE 18 @ GEORGETOWN 21: if Lafayette scores, but the game is not on LSN, do the points count? referees decision, touchdowns yes, but PATs do not.

good one!

Pard4Life
September 10th, 2011, 08:00 AM
You are right KenZ... Lehigh fans think they deserve 9-2 every year! 8-3? No way! Fire Lembo!

CrusaderBob
September 10th, 2011, 08:02 AM
Talk about a tempest in a teapot. Stop the complaining Lafayette fans.

So Georgetown won't give LSN permission to broadcast. It is their perrogative to so.

You'll live.

Listen to the radio broadcast. Use your imagination to envision the game while you clean out the garage this afternoon! That Multi-Sport Field doen't look that great on TV anyway. And if you want to see the game so bad, get FiOS or drive to DC. It's not that far!

But all this talk of broadcast rights has me thinking. Dangerous I know.

Georgetown may be onto something. After all, I'm sure the following exists someplace in every school's policies ...


Any other use of any pictures, descriptions, or accounts of the game without expressed written consent, is prohibited.

So why stop at TV cameras ...

Reporters: Make sure your press pass has that expressed written consent before filing that account of the game. If not, go see the media relations for written consent.

Fans: Leave the i-phone and other picture taking devices at the tailgate or go ask the AD for expressed written consent.

Posters: Keep the score updates and anything resembling descriptions of plays out of all game threads. Wouldn't want AGS shutdown.

Just trying to keep it all on the legal up & up! :D

Enough on that. On to the picks.

5 - 2 last week.

UNH @ Lehigh - Saw it last week in UMass @ HC. Bigger & faster covers a multitude of sins. UNH

Marist @ Bucknell - Schedule continues to build confidence. Bucknell

Lafayette @ Georgetown - Hoyas continue to improve, but the Leopards shot themselves in the foot in the loss to the Hoyas last year. Pay back factor won't let that happen this year. Lafayette

Colgate @ Holy Cross - This should have been the final game of the year for these 2 schools since 1987. In 25 years of no-brainer decisions missed, not developing rivalries by scheduling the same end of the season for schools in the PL not starting with the letter L is by far the
nobrainer-est! Holy Cross

Pard4Life
September 10th, 2011, 08:09 AM
I think everyone here has picked Lehigh, 3-1.

Go Lehigh TU owl
September 10th, 2011, 08:22 AM
I think everyone here has picked Lehigh, 3-1.

Thanks for keeping track.

Bogus Megapardus
September 10th, 2011, 10:04 AM
Colgate @ Holy Cross - This should have been the final game of the year for these 2 schools since 1987. In 25 years of no-brainer decisions missed, not developing rivalries by scheduling the same end of the season for schools in the PL not starting with the letter L is by far the nobrainer-est!

^^^This^^^

RichH2
September 10th, 2011, 11:43 AM
Weather may become issue for LU-UNH by late afternoon. Looking for a close battle. First time in a long time we actually have a real shot to win vs a CAA top tier team.
I do wish Pards would get off LU is too arrogant rant. Teams are what their records say they are. LU 11-3 since beginning of last season. Pards 2-10. Dont know whether we can pull off another such a season but record surely warrants us being in the conversation now. If we lose to UNH, Liberty and Yale, well we are no longer in the conversation.