Cal Poly & the WAC

[Sec310]

http://sloblogs.thetribunenews.com/collegebeat/2011/06/08/for-wac-and-for-all/

[DG Cowboy]

Very insightful, frank, and true. Thanks for the story.

[sikolec]

Well put by our new AD Oberhelman.

[Mr. C]

The facts are that there isn't the money or infrastructure to make a move for Cal Poly, or any other FCS school in cash-poor and education-challenged California any time soon. The leaders at Cal Poly are well aware of where they are at and it is refreshing to see their approach to the issue.

[SF State Gaters]

A theoretical WAC with the Mustangs, Bulldogs, Wolf Pack, San Jose State, UC Davis and Sacramento State sounded like the nucleus of a decent California-based conference, a step up from the Big West.

That said, a FCS conference with Cal Poly, Cal Davis, Sac State, NAU, Portland State, EWU, and a host of further-east-but-still-west-of-the-rockies teams is pretty nice too

[lucchesicourt]

Again, who is Cal Davis? Never heard of them. But, if you mean UC Davis or the University of California at Davis or UCD, I'd like you to know, we are NOT referred to as Cal Davis.

[bojeta]

Again, who is Cal Davis? Never heard of them. But, if you mean UC Davis or the University of California at Davis or UCD, I'd like you to know, we are NOT referred to as Cal Davis.

Coming from an SF State fan, I can see where he would use the Cal Davis name. UC Davis originally was the farm school for UC Berkeley more commonly referred to as Cal. I'm sure many referred to Davis at the time as Cal Davis. However, that was all long ago now and, yes, the three forms you pointed out are correct although I would throw in simply Davis as well. My daughter is currently working on her Ph.D. at UC Davis and would probably have a reaction similar to yours.

[mgbison]

Whats the difference? Is it really worth getting upset about. I know a lot of people around Minneapolis and Fargo use cal Davis.

[Green Cookie Monster]

People in Sacramento make it even easier: UC Farm Extension

[slostang]

Whats the difference? Is it really worth getting upset about. I know a lot of people around Minneapolis and Fargo use cal Davis.

It would be like people calling you the University of North Dakota Bison. What's the difference?

[lucchesicourt]

"Whats the difference? Is it really worth getting upset about. I know a lot of people around Minneapolis and Fargo use cal Davis. "

There's nothing wrong with being wrong, ONCE. Everyone makes mistakes, but to continue being wrong, knowing something is wrong, well, that's sort of really WRONG!! Wouldn'y you say?

[JSUBison]

It would be like people calling you the University of North Dakota Bison. What's the difference?

No it wouldn't. It would be like calling NDSU, ND State, or NODAK State. Cal Davis fan is being overly sensitive, and the Streisand effect will follow if he keeps it up.

[GoAgs72]

Fans from Fargo State College should recognize that UC Davis is the correct name since we used to be in the same conference. Continuing to use the wrong name for a college is, well, wrong especially when you seem to think it is the correct name.. It's different when it's Suck State and we know each other is using the name in jest.

[NDB]

No it wouldn't. It would be like calling NDSU, ND State, or NODAK State. Cal Davis fan is being overly sensitive, and the Streisand effect will follow if he keeps it up.

ND State is an ESPN creation for their ticker line.

People would know what you're talking about with any of the three and no one would be so impolite as to correct.

[lucchesicourt]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_California,_Davis

Please read the above: And, you will notice, that nowhere does it say Cal Davis as an acceptable term for the University. This Cal Davis terminology is a thing made up by the sports media, somewhere along the way, and has been wrong for years. People who continue using Cal Davis are just making it more difficult to stop the perpetuation of this incorrect terminology for the University.
The Cal Davis terminology is JUST PLAIN INCORRECT. Therefore, you are WRONG, and will always be wrong. You're just to stubborn to admit you are wrong, and are trying to justify yourself to make yourself look right. That will not be possible with any of your arguments. WRONG is WRONG!!! You cannot make it right.

[SF State Gaters]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_California,_Davis

Please read the above: And, you will notice, that nowhere does it say Cal Davis as an acceptable term for the University. This Cal Davis terminology is a thing made up by the sports media, somewhere along the way, and has been wrong for years. People who continue using Cal Davis are just making it more difficult to stop the perpetuation of this incorrect terminology for the University.
The Cal Davis terminology is JUST PLAIN INCORRECT. Therefore, you are WRONG, and will always be wrong. You're just to stubborn to admit you are wrong, and are trying to justify yourself to make yourself look right. That will not be possible with any of your arguments. WRONG is WRONG!!! You cannot make it right.

this... really seems to bother you, mate. Let me explain my usage, as I am in full agreement with your position that it makes a great deal of difference.

I made use of the term intentionally, not as any kind of affront to your institution (of which I am very fond) but as an affront to its arrogant and entitled sister (and peer) institution who claims the name and moniker "Cal" all to itself. As much as I abhor flagships of any kind (I refer to UT-Austin or Nebraska-Lincoln similarly), my particular disdain for the most egregious misnomer in "California", whose use of the term is predicated upon a self-assured sense of their innate superiority over all other institutions, peer or otherwise. I describe most Cal schools this way not in opposition to them, but to their usurper; likewise I refer to "California" as "Cal Berkeley" or, more frequently, UCB.

I will however deffer to your fervent position on this subject and refer instead to historical precedent for the use of a different (and, in my view, superior) name: the Cal Aggies. You will find wide usage of the term when discussing sports in newspapers nationwide (http://www.google.com/search?q=Cal+aggies&tbs=nws:1,ar:1&source=newspapers), from the Los Angeles Times (http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/latimes/access/395795291.html?dids=395795291:395795291&FMT=ABS&FMTS=ABS:AI&type=historic&date=Oct+23%2C+1934&author=&pub=Los+Angeles+Times&desc=Cal-Aggies+%22Breather%22+for+Bruin+Grid+Eleven&pqatl=google) to the Lodi Sentinel (http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=NsozAAAAIBAJ&sjid=Bu8HAAAAIBAJ&pg=4838,6011742&dq=cal+aggies&hl=en); from the Sacramento Bee (http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we/Archives?p_product=SB&p_theme=sb&p_action=search&p_maxdocs=200&p_topdoc=1&p_text_direct-0=0EB0D761CD07A3A2&p_field_direct-0=document_id&p_perpage=10&p_sort=YMD_date:D&s_trackval=GooglePM) to the Berkeley Daily Gazette (http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=xVIyAAAAIBAJ&sjid=6eQFAAAAIBAJ&pg=1154,4806425&dq=cal+aggies&hl=en). I will prefer to use "Cal Aggies" in the future in reference to the University of California, Davis.

[GoAgs72]

SF State Gaters - isn't that the team UC Davis beat so many times in a row that they dropped football out of embarassment? Your alternate name was "punching bag". Your tiny stadium was fun though.

[dprichar]

this... really seems to bother you, mate. Let me explain my usage, as I am in full agreement with your position that it makes a great deal of difference.

I made use of the term intentionally, not as any kind of affront to your institution (of which I am very fond) but as an affront to its arrogant and entitled sister (and peer) institution who claims the name and moniker "Cal" all to itself. As much as I abhor flagships of any kind (I refer to UT-Austin or Nebraska-Lincoln similarly), my particular disdain for the most egregious misnomer in "California", whose use of the term is predicated upon a self-assured sense of their innate superiority over all other institutions, peer or otherwise. I describe most Cal schools this way not in opposition to them, but to their usurper; likewise I refer to "California" as "Cal Berkeley" or, more frequently, UCB.

I will however deffer to your fervent position on this subject and refer instead to historical precedent for the use of a different (and, in my view, superior) name: the Cal Aggies. You will find wide usage of the term when discussing sports in newspapers nationwide (http://www.google.com/search?q=Cal+aggies&tbs=nws:1,ar:1&source=newspapers), from the Los Angeles Times (http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/latimes/access/395795291.html?dids=395795291:395795291&FMT=ABS&FMTS=ABS:AI&type=historic&date=Oct+23%2C+1934&author=&pub=Los+Angeles+Times&desc=Cal-Aggies+%22Breather%22+for+Bruin+Grid+Eleven&pqatl=google) to the Lodi Sentinel (http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=NsozAAAAIBAJ&sjid=Bu8HAAAAIBAJ&pg=4838,6011742&dq=cal+aggies&hl=en); from the Sacramento Bee (http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we/Archives?p_product=SB&p_theme=sb&p_action=search&p_maxdocs=200&p_topdoc=1&p_text_direct-0=0EB0D761CD07A3A2&p_field_direct-0=document_id&p_perpage=10&p_sort=YMD_date:D&s_trackval=GooglePM) to the Berkeley Daily Gazette (http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=xVIyAAAAIBAJ&sjid=6eQFAAAAIBAJ&pg=1154,4806425&dq=cal+aggies&hl=en). I will prefer to use "Cal Aggies" in the future in reference to the University of California, Davis.


Dude, It's really not that big of a deal, but you are wrong. The sources you cite for "Cal Aggies" are from the 1930s. Come on.

I could go around calling the LA Dodgers the Brooklyn Bridesgrooms by the same logic, but that would be stupid. You've got to remember that at the FCS level it is hard enough to build a brand without people intentionally calling you the wrong thing. I guess the Cal Poly fans are a little sensitve to this because we are struggling to drop the SLO out of our name. Despite the university's best efforts we still end up as CPSLO on the ESPN ticker, Cal State San Luis Obispo, Polytechnic State, San Luis Obispo State, UC SLO and god knows what else. If you're doing it just to piss off the Davis fans I guess that's cool, but if you think you are going to bring down Cal fans a peg by insulting their old farm school, I think you're mistaken. Believe me, they don't even know FCS exists.

[cpalum]

Dude, It's really not that big of a deal, but you are wrong. The sources you cite for "Cal Aggies" are from the 1930s. Come on.

I could go around calling the LA Dodgers the Brooklyn Bridesgrooms by the same logic, but that would be stupid. You've got to remember that at the FCS level it is hard enough to build a brand without people intentionally calling you the wrong thing. I guess the Cal Poly fans are a little sensitve to this because we are struggling to drop the SLO out of our name. Despite the university's best efforts we still end up as CPSLO on the ESPN ticker, Cal State San Luis Obispo, Polytechnic State, San Luis Obispo State, UC SLO and god knows what else. If you're doing it just to piss off the Davis fans I guess that's cool, but if you think you are going to bring down Cal fans a peg by insulting their old farm school, I think you're mistaken. Believe me, they don't even know FCS exists.

What he said exactly...Seriously I doubt any Cal fans will care either way and what the hell is wrong with being Cal? They were the first UC, were they not?

The school is called UC Davis. Learn it and move on

[darell1976]

It would be like people calling you the University of North Dakota Bison. What's the difference?

Hey now....That is very offensive.xnonox