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DFW HOYA
May 24th, 2011, 10:28 AM
http://web1.ncaa.org/maps/cVbnp9TaprRelease.jsp

Charleston Southern: Immediate Penalty - Scholarship Reduction = 2.72
Georgia Southern: Immediate Penalty - Scholarship Reduction = 4.47
Hampton: Immediate Penalty - Scholarship Reduction = 6.3
Howard: Immediate Penalty - Scholarship Reduction = 2.84
Missouri State: Immediate Penalty - Scholarship Reduction = 6.25
Portland State: Immediate Penalty - Scholarship Reduction = 0.29
Sam Houston State: Immediate Penalty - Scholarship Reduction = 3.25
Southeastern Louisiana: Immediate Penalty - Scholarship Reduction = 1.69
Weber State: Immediate Penalty - Scholarship Reduction = 0.43

WestCoastAggie
May 24th, 2011, 10:59 AM
The OVC is posting very decent APR numbers in football.

Football Austin Peay State University TN 2009 - 2010 967
Football Eastern Illinois University IL 2009 - 2010 949
Football Eastern Kentucky University KY 2009 - 2010 960
Football Jacksonville State University AL 2009 - 2010 925
Football Murray State University KY 2009 - 2010 964
Football Southeast Missouri State University MO 2009 - 2010 937
Football Tennessee State University TN 2009 - 2010 912
Football Tennessee Technological University TN 2009 - 2010 953
Football University of Tennessee at Martin TN 2009 - 2010 930

Lehigh Football Nation
May 24th, 2011, 11:20 AM
PL schools for 2010 season:
Bucknell: 976
Colgate: 978
Holy Cross: 974
Fordham: 975
Georgetown: 979
Lafayette: 978
Lehigh: 971

Almost indistinguishable. But of particular note: Fordham's APR levels shot up to those of the rest of the league in 2009, their first "full scholarship" year, and got up to the rest of the league in 2010:

Football Fordham University NY 2004 - 2005 949
Football Fordham University NY 2005 - 2006 942
Football Fordham University NY 2006 - 2007 942
Football Fordham University NY 2007 - 2008 949
Football Fordham University NY 2008 - 2009 960

Coincidence? I think not.

Smitty
May 24th, 2011, 11:20 AM
So if you have lost scholarships, how do you get them back?

Smitty
May 24th, 2011, 11:29 AM
SoCon results

Football Appalachian State University NC 2009 - 2010 974
Football Elon University NC 2009 - 2010 964
Football Furman University SC 2009 - 2010 968
Football Georgia Southern University GA 2009 - 2010 921 Immediate Penalty - Scholarship Reduction = 4.47
Football Samford University AL 2009 - 2010 961
Football The Citadel SC 2009 - 2010 967
Football University of Tennessee at Chattanooga TN 2009 - 2010 925
Football Western Carolina University NC 2009 - 2010 933
Football Wofford College SC 2009 - 2010 977

superman7515
May 24th, 2011, 11:41 AM
Three FCS schools are teetering on the edge:

Idaho State - Football - currently 888
Historical Penalty - Public Notice = Yes
Historical Penalty - Scholarship Reduction = 2.982
Historical Penalty - Practice Reduction = Yes
Historical Penalty - Championship Ban = Yes

Jackson State - Football - currently 879
Historical Penalty - Public Notice = Yes
Historical Penalty - Scholarship Reduction = 6.3
Historical Penalty - Practice Reduction = Yes
Historical Penalty - Championship Ban = Yes

Southern University - Football - currently 899
Historical Penalty - Public Notice = Yes
Historical Penalty - Scholarship Reduction = 1.67
Historical Penalty - Practice Reduction = Yes
Historical Penalty - Championship Ban = Yes

WestCoastAggie
May 24th, 2011, 11:44 AM
Three FCS schools are teetering on the edge:

Idaho State - Football - currently 888
Historical Penalty - Public Notice = Yes
Historical Penalty - Scholarship Reduction = 2.982
Historical Penalty - Practice Reduction = Yes
Historical Penalty - Championship Ban = Yes

Jackson State - Football - currently 879
Historical Penalty - Public Notice = Yes
Historical Penalty - Scholarship Reduction = 6.3
Historical Penalty - Practice Reduction = Yes
Historical Penalty - Championship Ban = Yes

Southern University - Football - currently 899
Historical Penalty - Public Notice = Yes
Historical Penalty - Scholarship Reduction = 1.67
Historical Penalty - Practice Reduction = Yes
Historical Penalty - Championship Ban = Yes

Jackson State had their waiver approved and I think Southern had their waiver approved as well. I am not sure but I haven't heard about any champ. bans.

Lehigh Football Nation
May 24th, 2011, 11:50 AM
Chatty seems to be a great example as to how to turn things around. They are exactly at 925 and are now eligible for postseason once again.

ur2k
May 24th, 2011, 12:08 PM
How do the scholarship reductions work?

Smitty
May 24th, 2011, 12:11 PM
Because the contemporaneous penalties are meant to be the "shot across the bow" and not the be-all/end-all punitive hammer, the CAP decided to limit the contemporaneous penalties that can be assessed to one team to about 10 percent of the team's financial aid limit. That includes rounding up to the next whole number for headcount sports. For example, in men's and women's basketball (both headcount sports), the maximum penalty would be two scholarships. In baseball (an equivalency sport with a maximum 11.7 grants-in-aid), the maximum penalty would be 1.17 scholarships.

http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/NCAANewsArchive/2005/Division+I/apr%2B101%2B-%2B2-14-05%2Bncaa%2Bnews.html

dbackjon
May 24th, 2011, 01:02 PM
NAU leading Big Sky by a wide margin:

California State University, Sacramento CA 2009 - 2010 931
Eastern Washington University WA 2009 - 2010 935
Idaho State University ID 2009 - 2010 888
Montana State University-Bozeman MT 2009 - 2010 932
Northern Arizona University AZ 2009 - 2010 953
Portland State University OR 2009 - 2010 921 Immediate Penalty - Scholarship Reduction = 0.29
University of Montana MT 2009 - 2010 932
University of Northern Colorado CO 2009 - 2010 938
Weber State University UT 2009 - 2010 913 Immediate Penalty - Scholarship Reduction = 0.43

UAalum72
May 24th, 2011, 01:47 PM
Northeast Conference

Bryant University (https://web1.ncaa.org/app_data/aprx2010/GaEhgdcJF9I81_2010_apr.pdf) RI 983
Monmouth University (https://web1.ncaa.org/app_data/aprx2010/16hxfSvEvwH439_2010_apr.pdf) NJ 970
Duquesne University (https://web1.ncaa.org/app_data/aprx2010/jhJ2CtcuY1x194_2010_apr.pdf) PA 966
Wagner College (https://web1.ncaa.org/app_data/aprx2010/FA8I5e7dx2o748_2010_apr.pdf) NY 956
University at Albany (https://web1.ncaa.org/app_data/aprx2010/4Bngf8645tY14_2010_apr.pdf) NY 948
Robert Morris University (https://web1.ncaa.org/app_data/aprx2010/wg2kLJpQbE0579_2010_apr.pdf) PA 935
Central Connecticut State University (https://web1.ncaa.org/app_data/aprx2010/OOYgQwnBkAu127_2010_apr.pdf) CT 934
Sacred Heart University (https://web1.ncaa.org/app_data/aprx2010/VomLCX8vDfL590_2010_apr.pdf) CT 933
Saint Francis University PA 928

chattanoogamocs
May 24th, 2011, 01:53 PM
Chatty seems to be a great example as to how to turn things around. They are exactly at 925 and are now eligible for postseason once again.

Here is what makes me proud of the new coaching staff...and the hard work of the administration...

Not only did they finally make the threshold score to get all their scholarships and practice time back (the first time since the APR was instituted). But check out the 4 years scores (particularly the last one)...

2006-07 931
2007-08 915
2008-09 867
2009-10 988

A 121 point increase for the Mocs from the last year of Allison to the first year of Huesman shows the commitment Russ and his staff have placed on academics.

Our AD, Rick Hart, also deserves praise. APR was a huge mess when he got to Chattanooga (that's what happens when you have an "ol ball coach" as AD)...the academic staff basically consisted of one person, now there is an entire department. All 17 UTC sports were above the threshold this year and 3 teams had perfect 1,000 point scores. xthumbsupx

Lehigh Football Nation
May 24th, 2011, 02:14 PM
http://lehighfootballnation.blogspot.com/2011/05/patriot-league-and-latest-academic.html

My blog posting mostly concerns the Patriot League - and, specifically, Fordham's great APR numbers - but I think there's also a point to be made about the overall issuing of the APR awards now that affects all of FCS.

LegalGaSouthernEagle
May 24th, 2011, 02:23 PM
Great job once again, Sam Baker. Will this ****ing nightmare ever end!!

darell1976
May 24th, 2011, 02:40 PM
GWFC:

North Dakota 972
UC Davis 964
Cal Poly 960
South Dakota 959
Southern Utah 933

No penalties!!

StorminASU
May 24th, 2011, 02:56 PM
Not only did they finally make the threshold score to get all their scholarships and practice time back (the first time since the APR was instituted). But check out the 4 years scores (particularly the last one)...

2006-07 931
2007-08 915
2008-09 867
2009-10 988

A 121 point increase for the Mocs from the last year of Allison to the first year of Huesman shows the commitment Russ and his staff have placed on academics.

Where did you get these numbers?

Skjellyfetti
May 24th, 2011, 03:17 PM
SoCon results

Football Appalachian State University NC 2009 - 2010 974
Football Elon University NC 2009 - 2010 964
Football Furman University SC 2009 - 2010 968
Football Georgia Southern University GA 2009 - 2010 921 Immediate Penalty - Scholarship Reduction = 4.47
Football Samford University AL 2009 - 2010 961
Football The Citadel SC 2009 - 2010 967
Football University of Tennessee at Chattanooga TN 2009 - 2010 925
Football Western Carolina University NC 2009 - 2010 933
Football Wofford College SC 2009 - 2010 977

damn. just missed 1st place by a hair.

Smitty
May 24th, 2011, 03:17 PM
You can click on the school name to bring up the actual report for the year.It gives the Multi-year then 09-10 APR score.

http://web1.ncaa.org/maps/cVbnp9TaprRelease.jsp

chattanoogamocs
May 24th, 2011, 04:35 PM
Where did you get these numbers?

I got the multi-year numbers for the UTC Sports Information Department. They sent out a press release that had all four years (and the average) for all 17 of their teams.

Just goes to show what a hole the football team had been in...they had to make an almost perfect score just to get up to 925 (the 4 year average was 925.25)

chattanoogamocs
May 24th, 2011, 04:40 PM
SoCon 2009-2010 APR

Wofford 990
UTC 988
ASU 978
Elon 967
Samford 967
Citadel 965
Furman 959
WCU 958
GSU 914

(Note: this is just for 2009-10, not the 4-year average that is used to determine penalties)

OL FU
May 24th, 2011, 04:40 PM
Football Furman University SC 2004 - 2005 986
Football Furman University SC 2005 - 2006 983
Football Furman University SC 2006 - 2007 983
Football Furman University SC 2007 - 2008 977
Football Furman University SC 2008 - 2009 974
Football Furman University SC 2009 - 2010 968

Well even though it isn't bad, win loss percentages aren't the only thing that have been declining at my alma mater:(

OL FU
May 24th, 2011, 04:42 PM
SoCon 2009-2010 APR

Wofford 990
UTC 988
ASU 978
Elon 967
Samford 967
Citadel 965
Furman 959
WCU 958
GSU 914

(Note: this is just for 2009-10, not the 4-year average that is used to determine penalties)

that must be all sports. FU's football over the last four years hasn't had a year as low as that average.

OL FU
May 24th, 2011, 04:49 PM
Football Appalachian State University NC 2004 - 2005 914
Football Appalachian State University NC 2005 - 2006 929
Football Appalachian State University NC 2006 - 2007 938
Football Appalachian State University NC 2007 - 2008 963
Football Appalachian State University NC 2008 - 2009 970
Football Appalachian State University NC 2009 - 2010 974
Football Elon University NC 2004 - 2005 945
Football Elon University NC 2005 - 2006 954
Football Elon University NC 2006 - 2007 953
Football Elon University NC 2007 - 2008 952
Football Elon University NC 2008 - 2009 965
Football Elon University NC 2009 - 2010 964
Football Furman University SC 2004 - 2005 986
Football Furman University SC 2005 - 2006 983
Football Furman University SC 2006 - 2007 983
Football Furman University SC 2007 - 2008 977
Football Furman University SC 2008 - 2009 974
Football Furman University SC 2009 - 2010 968
Football Georgia Southern University GA 2004 - 2005 880 Immediate Penalty - Scholarship Reduction = 5.43

Football Georgia Southern University GA 2005 - 2006 890 Immediate Penalty - Scholarship Reduction = 4.66

Football Georgia Southern University GA 2006 - 2007 905 Immediate Penalty - Scholarship Reduction = 3.51

Football Georgia Southern University GA 2007 - 2008 913 Immediate Penalty - Scholarship Reduction = 3.02

Football Georgia Southern University GA 2008 - 2009 920 Immediate Penalty - Scholarship Reduction = 3.53

Football Georgia Southern University GA 2009 - 2010 921 Immediate Penalty - Scholarship Reduction = 4.47

Football Samford University AL 2008 - 2009 955
Football Samford University AL 2009 - 2010 961
Football The Citadel SC 2004 - 2005 935
Football The Citadel SC 2005 - 2006 941
Football The Citadel SC 2006 - 2007 951
Football The Citadel SC 2007 - 2008 966
Football The Citadel SC 2008 - 2009 965
Football The Citadel SC 2009 - 2010 967
Football University of Tennessee at Chattanooga TN 2004 - 2005 837 Immediate Penalty - Scholarship Reduction = 6.3

Football University of Tennessee at Chattanooga TN 2005 - 2006 821 Immediate Penalty - Scholarship Reduction = 6.3
Historical Penalty - Public Notice = Yes

Football University of Tennessee at Chattanooga TN 2006 - 2007 855 Historical Penalty - Public Notice = Yes
Historical Penalty - Scholarship Reduction = 2.73
Historical Penalty - Practice Reduction = Yes

Football University of Tennessee at Chattanooga TN 2007 - 2008 870 Historical Penalty - Public Notice = Yes
Historical Penalty - Scholarship Reduction = 3.15
Historical Penalty - Practice Reduction = Yes
Historical Penalty - Championship Ban = Yes

Football University of Tennessee at Chattanooga TN 2008 - 2009 885 Historical Penalty - Public Notice = Yes
Historical Penalty - Scholarship Reduction = 3.3
Historical Penalty - Practice Reduction = Yes

Football University of Tennessee at Chattanooga TN 2009 - 2010 925
Football Western Carolina University NC 2004 - 2005 927
Football Western Carolina University NC 2005 - 2006 928
Football Western Carolina University NC 2006 - 2007 928
Football Western Carolina University NC 2007 - 2008 919 Immediate Penalty - Scholarship Reduction = 3.04

Football Western Carolina University NC 2008 - 2009 925
Football Western Carolina University NC 2009 - 2010 933
Football Wofford College SC 2004 - 2005 987
Football Wofford College SC 2005 - 2006 981
Football Wofford College SC 2006 - 2007 984
Football Wofford College SC 2007 - 2008 976
Football Wofford College SC 2008 - 2009 973
Football Wofford College SC 2009 - 2010 977


Interesting, App has made strides not just in Footballxbowx

Most everybody up. Even GSU with the penalties is climbing.

chattanoogamocs
May 24th, 2011, 05:05 PM
that must be all sports. FU's football over the last four years hasn't had a year as low as that average.

https://web1.ncaa.org/app_data/aprx2010/SwmvCGWgXuC244_2010_apr.pdf

Maybe I am interpreting the data wrong...but they way I read it...first column is 4-yr avg (968) and 2nd column is for this year's individual average (959)

...and then I just went through and checked each SoCon school.

EDIT: I went back and looked again...those are the correct numbers.

LegalGaSouthernEagle
May 24th, 2011, 05:39 PM
https://web1.ncaa.org/app_data/aprx2010/SwmvCGWgXuC244_2010_apr.pdf

Maybe I am interpreting the data wrong...but they way I read it...first column is 4-yr avg (968) and 2nd column is for this year's individual average (959)

...and then I just went through and checked each SoCon school.

EDIT: I went back and looked again...those are the correct numbers.Thanks for the update on your thought process (or lack thereof). xoopsx

Wildcat80
May 24th, 2011, 06:27 PM
Old Dominion of CAA 896!? What's up with that?

TexasTerror
May 24th, 2011, 06:53 PM
Anyone know what this is about??? Did not see this school listed at the top...


Texas Southern, which played for last year's SWAC football title, must give up nearly 15 football scholarships, while Jackson State lost half a dozen. Both of those schools will have their practice time reduced.

http://www.nola.com/sports/index.ssf/2011/05/southern_football_team_banned.html

JSU02
May 24th, 2011, 08:34 PM
Anyone know what this is about??? Did not see this school listed at the top...



http://www.nola.com/sports/index.ssf/2011/05/southern_football_team_banned.html

That is strange. Their APR for 09-10 is 734 (down from 795 for 08-09). Why don't they have a post season ban and why must they lose so many scholarships?

OL FU
May 25th, 2011, 05:31 AM
https://web1.ncaa.org/app_data/aprx2010/SwmvCGWgXuC244_2010_apr.pdf

Maybe I am interpreting the data wrong...but they way I read it...first column is 4-yr avg (968) and 2nd column is for this year's individual average (959)

...and then I just went through and checked each SoCon school.

EDIT: I went back and looked again...those are the correct numbers.

could be I have no clue, but if you add up our last five years numbers and divide by five it doesn't work. But I don't understand the APR anyway

eaglewraith
May 25th, 2011, 07:17 AM
could be I have no clue, but if you add up our last five years numbers and divide by five it doesn't work. But I don't understand the APR anyway

Add up the scores for 2010-2009, 2009-2008, 2008-2007, 2007-2006 and divide by 4. It's a 4 year average not 5 ;)

TexasTerror
May 25th, 2011, 07:33 AM
Here's another article on Texas Southern's sanctions... still confused on how they are able to maintain their SWAC title...


Texas Southern will lose 14.78 of the 63 football scholarships allowed for the 2011-12 school year because of its historically low performance under the NCAA’s Academic Progress Report formula, and an athletic department administrator said TSU could post a perfect APR score for the next two years and still run the risk of more sanctions because of past failures to retain and graduate football players.

TSU, which won the Southwestern Athletic Conference’s 2010 football title but dismissed coach Johnnie Cole this spring as it awaits the results of an NCAA probe that could include evidence of academic irregularities, suffered the most severe hit, in terms of lost scholarships, of any program sanctioned by the NCAA for APR shortcomings. Its football practice schedule will be cut from 20 hours per week to 16.

Read more: http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/college/7579168.html#ixzz1NMo5laju

Milktruck74
May 25th, 2011, 07:42 AM
Looks like the Mocs are back to a 20 hour week and full strength. Russ is righting the ship in all ways!!! Trying to put a band-aid on a gushing wound with JuCos and transfers has been a real problem when it comes to the APR. They rarely pan out academically.

bonarae
May 25th, 2011, 08:06 AM
Ivy League APR's:

Football Brown University RI 2009 - 2010 992
Football Columbia University-Barnard College NY 2009 - 2010 986
Football Cornell University NY 2009 - 2010 983
Football Dartmouth College NH 2009 - 2010 989
Football Harvard University MA 2009 - 2010 983
Football Princeton University NJ 2009 - 2010 986
Football University of Pennsylvania PA 2009 - 2010 995
Football Yale University CT 2009 - 2010 991

Good showing by all eight.

Milktruck74
May 25th, 2011, 08:09 AM
Ivy League APR's:

Football Brown University RI 2009 - 2010 992
Football Columbia University-Barnard College NY 2009 - 2010 986
Football Cornell University NY 2009 - 2010 983
Football Dartmouth College NH 2009 - 2010 989
Football Harvard University MA 2009 - 2010 983
Football Princeton University NJ 2009 - 2010 986
Football University of Pennsylvania PA 2009 - 2010 995
Football Yale University CT 2009 - 2010 991

Good showing by all eight.

Excellent. I thought that APR was only based on those players on Athletic Scholarship, and I thought the Ivys were all "need based"? I guess I'm not smart enough to figure out the APR, but if this is true then wouldn't the Ivy League and PFL not have APRs?

OL FU
May 25th, 2011, 08:12 AM
Add up the scores for 2010-2009, 2009-2008, 2008-2007, 2007-2006 and divide by 4. It's a 4 year average not 5 ;)


xlolx


still doesn't work:D

StorminASU
May 25th, 2011, 08:12 AM
I got the multi-year numbers for the UTC Sports Information Department. They sent out a press release that had all four years (and the average) for all 17 of their teams.

Just goes to show what a hole the football team had been in...they had to make an almost perfect score just to get up to 925 (the 4 year average was 925.25)

Very happy for the Mocs to get back on track. Now if we can get them and two other Socon teams in the playoffs this year***cough, ASU & GSU*** we'll be set to go. Congrats to all the STUDENT athletes!!!

ccd494
May 25th, 2011, 08:39 AM
CAA standings:

Northeastern 992*
New Hampshire 982
William & Mary 979
Maine 978
Richmond 973
Villanova 970
Towson 961
Rhode Island 948
James Madison 941
Delaware 936
Hofstra 928*
UMass 927
Old Dominion 896

Maybe you guys need to keep us northern schools around to make your academics look better. ;)

JSU02
May 25th, 2011, 08:57 AM
Here's another article on Texas Southern's sanctions... still confused on how they are able to maintain their SWAC title...



Read more: http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/college/7579168.html#ixzz1NMo5laju

I thought you could only lose a maximum of 10% of the scholarships granted? I'm pretty sure Texas Southern doesn't offer 147 football scholarships. If Southern and Jackson State are to get bans, why in the world wouldn't Texas Southern? If anyone can get to the bottom of this, it's Texas Terror.

The Cats
May 25th, 2011, 09:01 AM
Great job once again, Sam Baker. Will this ****ing nightmare ever end!!

How can you blame low ARP on the AD? GSU's problem with APR is not GPA, its with player turnover, you've got to retain players. GSU's actual '09-10 APR is - 914, while your actual '08-09 APR was - 907. What did you expect?

bjtheflamesfan
May 25th, 2011, 09:20 AM
Thanks for reinforcing the GSU stereotype. xthumbsupx


Whatever chattanoogamocs. Think outloud on a messageboard some more.

The previous posts are under review...

cmaxwellgsu
May 25th, 2011, 10:08 AM
How can you blame low ARP on the AD? GSU's problem with APR is not GPA, its with player turnover, you've got to retain players. GSU's actual '09-10 APR is - 914, while your actual '08-09 APR was - 907. What did you expect?

Our AD publicly admitted after year one that he didn't understand how it was calculated, and said he wished that the NCAA had done a trial run. Apparently that and playoff bid paperwork are too tricky for only one AD in America: good ol' Sammy.

cannonballgsu
May 25th, 2011, 10:42 AM
Our AD publicly admitted after year one that he didn't understand how it was calculated, and said he wished that the NCAA had done a trial run. Apparently that and playoff bid paperwork are too tricky for only one AD in America: good ol' Sammy.

Not to mention going through coaches like toilet paper. It's hard to keep a team together and reinforce the important things when the coach don't stick around. From what I've heard/read, Monken has the team on the right track and we now have more resources to prevent academic issues in the future.

WestCoastAggie
May 25th, 2011, 02:47 PM
Add up the scores for 2010-2009, 2009-2008, 2008-2007, 2007-2006 and divide by 4. It's a 4 year average not 5 ;)

And to figure out the APR for a single season, the equation is:

2(# of players academically eligible)/2(# of players with athletic scholly's[Counters]) x 1000 = APR

eaglewraith
May 25th, 2011, 04:39 PM
And to figure out the APR for a single season, the equation is:

2(# of players academically eligible)/2(# of players with athletic scholly's[Counters]) x 1000 = APR

Does that one work out? I know it's typically stated as ((Total # of points)/(Total Possible Points))*1000 = APR with points being counted for each player, 1 for good standing and 1 for retention. Never really thought about splitting them out in the numerator and denominator like that and I don't really feel like doing the math right now haha.

LegalGaSouthernEagle
May 25th, 2011, 04:56 PM
Never really thought about splitting them out in the numerator and denominator like that and I don't really feel like doing the math right now haha.This is probably exactly what Sam Baker said.
Nicely done.

WestCoastAggie
May 25th, 2011, 05:08 PM
Does that one work out? I know it's typically stated as ((Total # of points)/(Total Possible Points))*1000 = APR with points being counted for each player, 1 for good standing and 1 for retention. Never really thought about splitting them out in the numerator and denominator like that and I don't really feel like doing the math right now haha.

xlolx

But yeah, I just found it easier computing the calculations splitting them.

WestCoastAggie
May 25th, 2011, 05:09 PM
This is probably exactly what Sam Baker said.
Nicely done.

You are giving your guy too much credit, apparently. xlolx

DFW HOYA
May 25th, 2011, 05:35 PM
Our AD publicly admitted after year one that he didn't understand how it was calculated, and said he wished that the NCAA had done a trial run. Apparently that and playoff bid paperwork are too tricky for only one AD in America: good ol' Sammy.

The NCAA did a trial run...in 2004. This is the seventh year of the program.

JSU02
May 25th, 2011, 06:17 PM
+1

eaglewraith
May 25th, 2011, 07:06 PM
This is probably exactly what Sam Baker said.
Nicely done.

He would have gotten to the word numerator and been confused.