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smallcollegefbfan
December 7th, 2010, 09:18 AM
ARKANSAS-PINE BLUFF’S RAYMOND WEBBER & DRAKE’S DAIN TAYLOR HEADLINE 2010 AFCA FOOTBALL CHAMPIONSHIP SUBDIVISION COACHES’ ALL-AMERICA TEAM

2010 AFCA Football Championship Subdivision Coaches’ All-America Team
Offense
Pos Name Ht. Wt. Cl. School Coach Hometown (High School)
WR Raymond Webber 6-3 220 Sr. Arkansas-Pine Bluff Monte Coleman St. Louis, Mo. (Miller)
WR Tysson Poots 6-3 220 Sr. Southern Utah Ed Lamb Las Vegas, Nev. (Coronado)
TE Dean Rogers 6-3 250 Sr. UC Davis Bob Biggs Visalla, Calif. (Redwood)
OL Ben Ijalana 6-4 320 Sr. Villanova Andy Talley Hainesport, N.J. (Rancocas Valley)
OL Corey Konycki 6-5 315 Sr. Robert Morris Joe Walton Hunlock Creek, Pa. (Wyoming Seminary)
OL Johnny Culbreath 6-6 280 Sr. South Carolina St. Buddy Pough Monroe, Ga. (Monroe Area)
OL David Arkin 6-5 302 Sr. Missouri St. Terry Allen Wichita, Kan. (Kapaun)
OL Mike Person 6-5 295 Sr. Montana St. Rob Ash Glenville, Mont. (Dawson County)
QB Jeremy Moses 6-0 195 Sr. Stephen F. Austin J.C. Harper Baytown, Texas (Lee)
RB Nate Eachus 5-10 216 Jr. Colgate Dick Biddle Drums, Pa. (Hazleton Area)
RB Taiwan Jones 6-1 200 Jr. Eastern Washington Beau Baldwin Antioch, Calif. (Deer Valley)

Defense
Pos Name Ht. Wt. Cl. School Coach Hometown (High School)
DL Martin Parker 6-3 283 Sr. Richmond Latrell Scott New Haven, Conn. (Hyde Leadership)
DL Jabari Fletcher 6-3 265 Sr. Appalachian St. Jerry Moore Atlanta, Ga. (Grady)
DL Dain Taylor 6-3 251 Sr. Drake Chris Creighton Highlands Ranch, Colo. (Mountain Vista)
DL Kenneth Charles 6-3 266 Sr. Stephen F. Austin J.C. Harper Missouri City, Texas (Hightower)
LB Tyler Holmes 6-0 220 Jr. Massachusetts Kevin Morris Blacksburg, Va. (Blacksburg)
LB J.C. Sherritt* 5-10 220 Sr. Eastern Washington Beau Baldwin Pullman, Wash. (Pullman)
LB Eric McBride 6-2 231 Sr. Richmond Latrell Scott Richmond, Va. (L.C. Bird)
DB Mark LeGree* 6-0 200 Sr. Appalachian St. Jerry Moore Columbus, Ga. (Pacelli Catholic)
DB Dino Vasso 5-9 175 Sr. New Hampshire Sean McDonnell Crum Lynne, Pa. (Ridley)
DB James Vercammen 5-10 192 Sr. Dayton Rick Chamberlin Bloomfield Hills, Mich. (Groves)
DB Trumaine Johnson 6-3 197 Jr. Montana Robin Pflugrad Stockton, Calif. (Edison)

Specialists
Pos Name Ht. Wt. Cl. School Coach Hometown (High School)
P David Miller 6-0 183 Sr. William & Mary Jimmye Laycock Centreville, Va. (Westfield)
PK Jason Cunningham 6-1 175 Jr. Montana St. Rob Ash Amarillo, Texas (Tascosa)
AP Tavoy Moore 5-7 195 Jr. Idaho St. John Zamberlin Long Beach, Calif. (Gahr)
*-2009 All-American

http://www.afca.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=9300&ATCLID=205043554

Wildcat80
December 7th, 2010, 09:51 AM
Congrats to Dino Vasso of UNH!!!

FCS_pwns_FBS
December 7th, 2010, 10:43 AM
Guess they don't vote for sophomores, because there's no way GSU's Brent Russell isn't one of the top 4 DL in the FCS.

UNHFootballAlum
December 7th, 2010, 11:23 AM
Guess they don't vote for sophomores, because there's no way GSU's Brent Russell isn't one of the top 4 DL in the FCS.

Same for LB Matt Evans

blueballs
December 7th, 2010, 11:36 AM
Guess they don't vote for sophomores, because there's no way GSU's Brent Russell isn't one of the top 4 DL in the FCS.

I think it is interesting how two App defensive players (nothing against either of those players) were slected but not the DL from Wofford who was SoCon defensive POTY. HMMMMMMMMMMMMM.....................

straightshooter
December 7th, 2010, 11:39 AM
Here's an even worse one. The PK from MT State was 20/24 on FG and 42/48 on PAT. No way that's an AA performance. You can't miss six PATs and be AA. There were many more PK with better numbers on playoff teams. GSU PK Adrian Mora is 15/16 on FG and 45/45 on PAT. Those are AA stats. This must just be a popularity contest voted on by people who have no clue.

smallcollegefbfan
December 7th, 2010, 11:55 AM
I think it is interesting how two App defensive players (nothing against either of those players) were slected but not the DL from Wofford who was SoCon defensive POTY. HMMMMMMMMMMMMM.....................

Well I will say that I don't think Pall is as good as his numbers indicate. He was silent against App State and is not very athletic. Just a try hard overachiever really. I doubt he has big numbers next year when teams start to scheme against him because he is not overly fast or athletic.

sav eagle34
December 7th, 2010, 02:22 PM
Well I will say that I don't think Pall is as good as his numbers indicate. He was silent against App State and is not very athletic. Just a try hard overachiever really. I doubt he has big numbers next year when teams start to scheme against him because he is not overly fast or athletic.

Really? I mean really? 20.5 TFL's & 12.5 sacks are more than a byproduct of trying hard. C'mon man, the numbers & the tape certainly say otherwise. But, the selection of Parker, from Richmond??? I don't see 13.5 tfl & 5.5 sacks being A.A. No way you can justify that over Russell with 17.5 & 8. And I know Fletcher is a player, but 1st team A.A. might be a reach too. It's obvious that being on a recognized team outweighs individual performance here.

danefan
December 7th, 2010, 02:38 PM
Almost all the conferences represented (including the supposedly inferior PFL with two nods.

The only conference I see without a player is the Ivy's.

sav eagle34
December 7th, 2010, 02:46 PM
I will also note that Pat Illig was definitely the best OL I have seen this year. Pretty suprised he didn't get the nod as a Senoir. Ok, that's all of the Wofford love this week! You guys suck lol!

smallcollegefbfan
December 7th, 2010, 02:57 PM
Really? I mean really? 20.5 TFL's & 12.5 sacks are more than a byproduct of trying hard. C'mon man, the numbers & the tape certainly say otherwise. But, the selection of Parker, from Richmond??? I don't see 13.5 tfl & 5.5 sacks being A.A. No way you can justify that over Russell with 17.5 & 8. And I know Fletcher is a player, but 1st team A.A. might be a reach too. It's obvious that being on a recognized team outweighs individual performance here.

Russell is by far a better player than Pall. I'm dead serious on Pall. He is a good player mostly because he gives effort and tries hard. He is not overly fast or super talented. I will almost guarantee that his numbers will decrease next year as teams scheme against him more. His numbers declined as this season went on. He has 12.5 sacks right but look at the sacks over the last three games and look at who he had his best sacks numbers against:

Dec 4- JSU- 0 sacks
Nov 20- UTC- 0 sacks
Nov 13- App State- 0 sacks, just 2 tackles

He was also held without a sack against GSU.

Best sack games:
Samford- Nov 6- 2 sacks
Union- Sept 18- 2 sacks
WCU- Oct 16- 1.5 sacks
Elon- Oct 23- 2 sacks
Furman- Oct 2- 3 sacks

So three of those games are against awful teams and one of them was against a team who passed the ball 40 times (Elon) giving him plenty of chances. Furman threw it 34 times.

So when you look at his numbers they were all against pass happy teams or low level competition. He doesn't have a single sack against a team who made the playoffs and he has faced three playoff teams.

And on Fletcher I totally agree from my film evals. He can be lazy going silent for two quarters sometimes. I know he has a rep for being lazy in practice, too. Russell, Kenrick Ellis, Mario Kurn, Zack Nash, and Martin Parker were the best defensive linemen I saw all year long. Ellis is by far the most gifted of the bunch though. He is just so massive and strong. He has a good 50 pounds and four inches on Russell making him a player that will definitely play in the NFL while Russell will have to get bigger before he can. With that said, Russell has the potential to because he is already strong and a disruptive force.

smallcollegefbfan
December 7th, 2010, 03:02 PM
I will also note that Pat Illig was definitely the best OL I have seen this year. Pretty suprised he didn't get the nod as a Senoir. Ok, that's all of the Wofford love this week! You guys suck lol!

Not sure I agree. Kilgore of App State is a better athlete and not soft like Illig. Illig is good but he won't play on Sundays while I think Kilgore might as a guard.

sav eagle34
December 7th, 2010, 03:29 PM
Russell is by far a better player than Pall.
Hey, no argument there. I'd take Russell on any team, any level, any day. He has a motor that is unmatched. I'm just not going to knock Pall because he plays for an underrated team. The guy just produces. My point being here is that I can't see a justification for Fletcher over Pall, outside of the beatdown the team took. All American is an individual award unlike an MVP.



Not sure I agree. Kilgore of App State is a better athlete and not soft like Illig. Illig is good but he won't play on Sundays while I think Kilgore might as a guard.

I was actually thinking about Kilgore as I wrote that one. He is a beast with a nasty streak for sure and will undoubtedly get his chance in the pros. However, soft is not exactly the term that comes to mind when I think of Illig. He has the prototype frame and great feet. You never see him out of position. But, perhaps he would be judged differently in another offensive scheme? Take it however you wish, the NFL draft bible has Illig projected in the 5th round & Kilgore undrafted.

smallcollegefbfan
December 7th, 2010, 03:42 PM
Hey, no argument there. I'd take Russell on any team, any level, any day. He has a motor that is unmatched. I'm just not going to knock Pall because he plays for an underrated team. The guy just produces. My point being here is that I can't see a justification for Fletcher over Pall, outside of the beatdown the team took. All American is an individual award unlike an MVP.

Pall deserves All-America honors but he is a player who is going to dominate bad teams but can easily be shut down by a very good one. He got most of his sacks against teams that a defender should when a team throws the ball 30-40 times.

I was actually thinking about Kilgore as I wrote that one. He is a beast with a nasty streak for sure and will undoubtedly get his chance in the pros. However, soft is not exactly the term that comes to mind when I think of Illig. He has the prototype frame and great feet. You never see him out of position. But, perhaps he would be judged differently in another offensive scheme? Take it however you wish, the NFL draft bible has Illig projected in the 5th round & Kilgore undrafted.

On Illig and Kilgore I can guarantee you Illig is not getting drafted. Teams don't like him. I would take Draft Bible with a grain of salt. I guarantee you they have not scouted both of those kids enough to truly know and only have Illig rated that high because one of the NFL's scouting services gave him a 7th round grade in the spring. They probably figured when he got the Blocking Trophy that he has moved up the board. I have talked to 6 teams and none of them gave him a draftable grade. One of them even rejected him for their scheme. I have two teams who said they think Kilgore is App State's best prospect and that includes All-Americans Smith and LeGree whom have gotten all of the hype. When comparing the play of those them Kilgore is athletic, has a nasty streak, great feet, and finishes blocks. Illig is big and has decent feet but he is stiff, soft, and doesn't finish. He was not mauling opponents against App like Kilgore did against Wofford and a few other teams this year. He looked very good week in and week out and really should have won the Blocking Trophy. If App had beaten GSU as well I think Kilgore would have gotten the trophy. The coaches were trying to spread the player of the year awards around pretty equally which is why Kilgore didn't win. He had the better year and is rated higher by NFL teams.

Personally though I don't care if a player is drafted or not. What matters is what they do in the NFL. I kept gushing over Karim on the boards last year and he fell all the way to the sixth round but has proven he should have been a third or fourth rounder. I even told some folks he would be a better pro than AE from App State and caught grief for it. So far it isn't even close as to which one is better.

AshevilleApp
December 7th, 2010, 05:13 PM
With the utmost respect to Pall & Russell, who are both beasts. Fletcher put up some pretty impressive numbers. I'm not saying that Jabari was any better than the other guys just that he can not be overlooked

FLETCHER
Tackles: 55
TFL: 14.5-88
Sacks: 8-52
INT: 1
BU: 5
PD: 6
QB Hurries: 9
FF: 2
FR: 4

RUSSELL
Tackles: 59
TFL: 17.5-94
Sacks: 8-60
INT: 0
BU: 2
PD: 2
QB Hurries: 4
FF: 1
FR: 1

PALL
Tackles: 47
TFL: 19.5-98
Sacks: 12.5-74
INT: 0
BU: 0
PD: 0
QB Hurries: 6
FF: 2
FR: 2

Mr. C
December 7th, 2010, 08:48 PM
The AFCA team is typically the most suspect of All-American teams. It is more of a spread the wealth team than one based on ability. I see plenty of screw-ups on this one, just like every year. A few years back, they didn't have DaVon Fowlkes at WR or KR after he caught 103 passes, had over 3,000 combined yards and was third in the Payton voting.

Personally, DTs Russell of GSU and Kendrick Ellis of Hampton were the top defensive linemen I saw ALL year and you could make an argument for them being the among the top defensive players at ANY position this season. Pat Devlin of Delaware is hands down the top QB in FCS and one of the top ones in all of college football. Moses may have thrown for a gazillion yards, but all you have to do is compare the Devlin and Moses performances against Villanova in a two-game span to see who is better. Like someone else said, I wasn't impressed at all with Pall when I saw him in person. He had a very bad game and zero impact. Some of those guys are on there purely on reputation.

UNHFootballAlum
December 7th, 2010, 09:20 PM
Mr. C, I'd love your opinion as to why Matt Evans keeps getfing overlooked

smallcollegefbfan
December 7th, 2010, 10:21 PM
Mr. C, I'd love your opinion as to why Matt Evans keeps getfing overlooked

I know you didn't ask me but I will go ahead and answer it. Coaches love honoring seniors and juniors and he is just a sophomore. He will get his dues next year. For a sophomore to make first-team All-CAA or All-America they have to be hands down the best it seems. Ijalana didn't even get first-team All-America as a sophomore and we see how much reputation he has now. Evans and Holmes will be the top two linebackers by far going into next year.

TheValleyRaider
December 7th, 2010, 10:30 PM
NATE EACHUS! xsmileyclapx xsmileyclapx

Go Lehigh TU owl
December 7th, 2010, 10:32 PM
It's amazing there's two guys from Northeast PA on this list. HS football in this area is dreadful.

smallcollegefbfan
December 7th, 2010, 10:40 PM
It's amazing there's two guys from Northeast PA on this list. HS football in this area is dreadful.

Neither are NFL caliber players. Both are too slow. That might be why PA ball is not very good because of the speed. Eachus and Vasso can play but are not next level guys because of speed and Vasso is also a little on the light side (175 pounds).

Go Lehigh TU owl
December 7th, 2010, 10:51 PM
Neither are NFL caliber players. Both are too slow. That might be why PA ball is not very good because of the speed. Eachus and Vasso can play but are not next level guys because of speed and Vasso is also a little on the light side (175 pounds).

Really? As a whole i always considered PA as one of the top states for HS talent. There's always a ton of guys that come from the WPIAL, Lehigh Valley and Philly area. Scranton/WB? Not so much. Although West Scranton HS has put a few guys in the FBS ranks including McGloin at PSU.

VUCats02
December 7th, 2010, 11:10 PM
It's not that dreadful compared to other areas of the country - just dreadful compared to the rest of PA. What districts are considered Northeast PA? I always thought that there was some pretty good football around Bloomsburg/Selinsgrove/Williamsport. I guess if you do go northeast of Scranton though, it's pretty bad.

Go Lehigh TU owl
December 7th, 2010, 11:20 PM
It's not that dreadful compared to other areas of the country - just dreadful compared to the rest of PA. What districts are considered Northeast PA? I always thought that there was some pretty good football around Bloomsburg/Selinsgrove/Williamsport. I guess if you do go northeast of Scranton though, it's pretty bad.

District 2 and the northern reaches of District 11 would be considered NEPA. Geographically speaking, Hazleton and Stroudsburg would be the southern reaches, Berwick would be the western edge.

UNHFootballAlum
December 8th, 2010, 12:54 AM
The only reason i did not ask you is that you had already given me your opinion on the subject, which I appreciated it. I understand about juniors & seniors, but that is a horrible excuse for not honoring one of the best LB's in the country for what he did this year. Next year is not promised to anyone

UNHFootballAlum
December 8th, 2010, 12:56 AM
Vasso will work great in the CFL

smallcollegefbfan
December 8th, 2010, 09:31 AM
Really? As a whole i always considered PA as one of the top states for HS talent. There's always a ton of guys that come from the WPIAL, Lehigh Valley and Philly area. Scranton/WB? Not so much. Although West Scranton HS has put a few guys in the FBS ranks including McGloin at PSU.

I'm no expert on the regions up there but I do know historically the speed there is not as good as down in the south. Great players come from everywhere but I have noticed those PA kids aren't as fast. I remember some PA LBs at Ohio State who ran poor 40 times at the combine. No knock on the talent just lacking a lot of elite speed in that area.

smallcollegefbfan
December 8th, 2010, 09:33 AM
The only reason i did not ask you is that you had already given me your opinion on the subject, which I appreciated it. I understand about juniors & seniors, but that is a horrible excuse for not honoring one of the best LB's in the country for what he did this year. Next year is not promised to anyone

Yeah it is but hey it is just how things are. A lot of reasons I give for things aren't what I believe but what happens to be truth. I disagree with a lot of things I see in the voting for certain awards. To me if a freshman has a better season than a returning two-time All-American you pick the freshman but most coaches give awards based on reputation. That is why I always take notice when a sophomore makes first-team All-CAA because you know he is a stud to have overcome that upperclassmen bias.

smallcollegefbfan
December 8th, 2010, 09:34 AM
Vasso will work great in the CFL

I would have to agree with that as well. He needs to bulk up some but he is an excellent cover man who I believe can make it in the CFL.