PDA

View Full Version : 2005 I-A vs I-AA



ISUMatt
May 5th, 2005, 10:16 PM
9-1 Northwestern St vs La-Monroe
9-1 Western Illinois vs Toledo
9-1 William & Mary vs Marshall
9-3 Missouri St vs Arkansas
9-3 Eastern Washington vs San Jose St
9-3 Nicholls St vs Utah St
9-3 Cal Poly vs Troy
9-3 Montana St vs Oklahoma St
9-3 Sacramento St vs California
9-3 Murray St vs Mississippi St
9-3 Maine vs Nebraska
9-3 Portland St vs Oregon St
9-3 Illinois St vs Iowa St
9-10 Sam Houston St vs Houston
9-10 UT Martin vs Arkansas St
9-10 Nicholls St vs Indiana
9-10 Samford vs Baylor
9-10 Appalachian St vs Kansas
9-10 SEMO vs Kent St
9-10 Wofford vs West Virginia
9-10 Montana vs Oregon
9-10 Villanova vs Rutgers
9-10 Northern Arizona vs Arizona
9-10 Eastern Illinois vs BYU
9-10 The Citadel vs Florida St
9-10 Weber St vs Fresno St
9-10 Liberty vs Uconn
9-17 Southern Illinois vs Western Michigan
9-17 Grambling vs Washington St
9-17 Northwestern St vs La-Lafayette
9-17 UC Davis vs Stanford
9-17 Northern Iowa vs Iowa
9-17 Eastern Kentucky vs NC St
9-17 Tennessee Tech vs Northern Illinois
9-17 Mc Neese St vs S Miss
9-17 Chattanooga vs Memphis
9-17 Sam Houston St vs Texas Tech
9-17 VMI vs Duke
9-24 Indiana St vs Texas Tech
9-24 Youngstown vs Pittsburgh
9-24 Texas St vs Texas A&M
9-24 Richmond vs Vanderbilt
9-24 Western Kentucky vs Auburn
10-8 Portland St vs Boise St
10-8 The Citadel vs Ole Miss
11-19 Western Kentucky vs Florida International

If I missed a game or two, post it please I manually did this so odds are I missed a few!!!

Lehigh Football Nation
May 5th, 2005, 11:14 PM
Here are your "upsets":

9-1 Northwestern St over La-Monroe
9-3 Eastern Washington over San Jose St (by more than 2 TDs)
9-3 Portland St over Oregon St
9-10 Appalachian St over Kansas
9-10 Villanova over Rutgers
9-17 Northwestern St over La-Lafayette
9-17 Southern Illinois over Western Michigan
11-19 Western Kentucky over Florida International

Will do I-AA proud but will fall short:

9-1 Western Illinois vs Toledo
9-1 William & Mary vs Marshall
9-3 Cal Poly vs Troy
9-3 Montana St vs Oklahoma St
9-3 Maine vs Nebraska
9-10 Northern Arizona vs Arizona
9-10 Wofford vs West Virginia
9-10 Montana vs Oregon
9-10 Sam Houston St vs Houston
9-10 SEMO vs Kent St
9-17 Northern Iowa vs Iowa
9-17 Sam Houston St vs Texas Tech
9-24 Richmond vs Vanderbilt
9-24 Western Kentucky vs Auburn
10-8 Portland St vs Boise St

Turn away from the TV set!:

9-3 Missouri St vs Arkansas
9-3 Nicholls St vs Utah St
9-3 Sacramento St vs California
9-3 Murray St vs Mississippi St
9-3 Illinois St vs Iowa St
9-10 UT Martin vs Arkansas St
9-10 Nicholls St vs Indiana
9-10 Samford vs Baylor
9-10 Eastern Illinois vs BYU
9-10 The Citadel vs Florida St
9-10 Weber St vs Fresno St
9-10 Liberty vs Uconn
9-17 Grambling vs Washington St
9-17 UC Davis vs Stanford
9-17 Middle Tennessee vs Akron
9-17 Eastern Kentucky vs NC St
9-17 Tennessee Tech vs Northern Illinois
9-17 Mc Neese St vs S Miss
9-17 Chattanooga vs Memphis
9-17 VMI vs Duke
9-24 Indiana St vs Texas Tech
9-24 Youngstown vs Pittsburgh
9-24 Texas St vs Texas A&M
10-8 The Citadel vs Ole Miss

ISUMatt
May 5th, 2005, 11:38 PM
OOOPS took that out, dont know what I was thinking there

McNeese75
May 6th, 2005, 12:24 AM
Here are your "upsets":

9-1 Northwestern St over La-Monroe
9-3 Eastern Washington over San Jose St (by more than 2 TDs)
9-3 Portland St over Oregon St
9-10 Appalachian St over Kansas
9-10 Villanova over Rutgers
9-17 Northwestern St over La-Lafayette
9-17 Southern Illinois over Western Michigan
11-19 Western Kentucky over Florida International

Will do I-AA proud but will fall short:

9-1 Western Illinois vs Toledo
9-1 William & Mary vs Marshall
9-3 Cal Poly vs Troy
9-3 Montana St vs Oklahoma St
9-3 Maine vs Nebraska
9-10 Northern Arizona vs Arizona
9-10 Wofford vs West Virginia
9-10 Montana vs Oregon
9-10 Sam Houston St vs Houston
9-10 SEMO vs Kent St
9-17 Northern Iowa vs Iowa
9-17 Sam Houston St vs Texas Tech
9-24 Richmond vs Vanderbilt
9-24 Western Kentucky vs Auburn
10-8 Portland St vs Boise St

Turn away from the TV set!:

9-3 Missouri St vs Arkansas
9-3 Nicholls St vs Utah St
9-3 Sacramento St vs California
9-3 Murray St vs Mississippi St
9-3 Illinois St vs Iowa St
9-10 UT Martin vs Arkansas St
9-10 Nicholls St vs Indiana
9-10 Samford vs Baylor
9-10 Eastern Illinois vs BYU
9-10 The Citadel vs Florida St
9-10 Weber St vs Fresno St
9-10 Liberty vs Uconn
9-17 Grambling vs Washington St
9-17 UC Davis vs Stanford
9-17 Middle Tennessee vs Akron
9-17 Eastern Kentucky vs NC St
9-17 Tennessee Tech vs Northern Illinois
9-17 Mc Neese St vs S Miss
9-17 Chattanooga vs Memphis
9-17 VMI vs Duke
9-24 Indiana St vs Texas Tech
9-24 Youngstown vs Pittsburgh
9-24 Texas St vs Texas A&M
10-8 The Citadel vs Ole Miss

I think you need to slide a couple of your middle group to the bottom list. No way Sam Houston stays with Texas Tech and I have my doubts about N. Arizona vs Arizona and Montana St vs OK State is going to get ugly as well. At this point in time, I cannot argue with my Cowboys being put in the bottom category until they prove themselves.

DemiGS
May 6th, 2005, 01:20 AM
Is it me...or is The Citadel always landing big Div1-A games?!? Is it the fact that the Citadel's name might be known more to the general public and therefore looks better on a 1A schedule?

Wmbgskip
May 6th, 2005, 02:06 AM
11/12 -- UMass at Army

Looking at the 5 A-10/I-A matchups, here's the order I would rank them in likelihood of upset.

UMass at Army -- Weak Army team over the past few seasons, and by most accounts a conference-contender in Amherst. However, I don't discount Bobby Ross in his second year, nor fail to take a grain of salt with UMass. That being said, still the most likely bet at this point in the pre-season. I think that if Army is having a good season by the time they hit November, they'll take it, otherwise, I look for the Minutemen to give the Black Knights a big ole "flesh wound." (Apologies to Monty Python)

W&M at Marshall -- The Herd have a lot of starting gaps to fill...16 of them, actually. W&M's only gap is at QB, with the man Dominique Thompson understudied to until he got hurt at New Hampshire (Josh Lustig) and sophomore standout Joe Nicholas anchoring the wideouts. Especially coming the first week of the season, strong possibility of the A-10 smacking around C-USA. Not ranked first due to the Tribe's dearth of I-A wins since the Temple game.

Villanova at Rutgers -- Wildcats have ruled the city of Brotherly love for the past several years, and remains the favorite for the win among the three A-10/BCS matchups. However, I think Rutgers is getting better, and this will be a tight game either way.

Maine at Nebraska -- I rank this ahead of Richmond/Vandy only because I'm that critical of Richmond's status next season. Maine pulled out the big win last year down south, and could carry the psychological conviction of being able to beat the big boys into this season as well. However, the Huskers are in their second go-round with Bill Callahan's offense, and will be much more comfortable with it. If the Bears win, it'll be another squeaker. If not, it'll be a blowout.

Richmond at Vanderbilt -- I like Dave Clawson. I think by 2006, the Spiders will be competitive in the league. But this is 2005, and the Commodores have Bobby Johnson at the helm, who is no stranger to the abilities of I-AA. I like Richmond to throw the fear of the A-10 into the SEC for the first half at least, but the odds of pulling out the victory are about the same as China telling Taiwan that they will recognize their independence.

--Skip

WCU LawCat
May 6th, 2005, 03:25 AM
Western Carolina vs Cincinnati

Has not been mentioned yet...I think its winable.

Tribe4SF
May 6th, 2005, 06:31 AM
11/12 -- UMass at Army

Looking at the 5 A-10/I-A matchups, here's the order I would rank them in likelihood of upset.

UMass at Army -- Weak Army team over the past few seasons, and by most accounts a conference-contender in Amherst. However, I don't discount Bobby Ross in his second year, nor fail to take a grain of salt with UMass. That being said, still the most likely bet at this point in the pre-season. I think that if Army is having a good season by the time they hit November, they'll take it, otherwise, I look for the Minutemen to give the Black Knights a big ole "flesh wound." (Apologies to Monty Python)

W&M at Marshall -- The Herd have a lot of starting gaps to fill...16 of them, actually. W&M's only gap is at QB, with the man Dominique Thompson understudied to until he got hurt at New Hampshire (Josh Lustig) and sophomore standout Joe Taylor anchoring the wideouts. Especially coming the first week of the season, strong possibility of the A-10 smacking around C-USA. Not ranked first due to the Tribe's dearth of I-A wins since the Temple game.

Villanova at Rutgers -- Wildcats have ruled the city of Brotherly love for the past several years, and remains the favorite for the win among the three A-10/BCS matchups. However, I think Rutgers is getting better, and this will be a tight game either way.

Maine at Nebraska -- I rank this ahead of Richmond/Vandy only because I'm that critical of Richmond's status next season. Maine pulled out the big win last year down south, and could carry the psychological conviction of being able to beat the big boys into this season as well. However, the Huskers are in their second go-round with Bill Callahan's offense, and will be much more comfortable with it. If the Bears win, it'll be another squeaker. If not, it'll be a blowout.

Richmond at Vanderbilt -- I like Dave Clawson. I think by 2006, the Spiders will be competitive in the league. But this is 2005, and the Commodores have Bobby Lamb at the helm, who is no stranger to the abilities of I-AA. I like Richmond to throw the fear of the A-10 into the SEC for the first half at least, but the odds of pulling out the victory are about the same as China telling Taiwan that they will recognize their independence.

--Skip

A little editing for you, Skip. The sophomore standout WR is Joe NICHOLAS. John TAYLOR is a junior back-up WR.

TexasTerror
May 6th, 2005, 06:47 AM
You really think SHSU will do I-AA "proud and fall short" to Texas Tech? They're going to be bruised and battered after battling I-A Houston the week before, then have to go up to Lubbock the following weekend. That's tough!

Wmbgskip
May 6th, 2005, 07:57 AM
Argh, good catch 4SF (no pun intended).

And that, kids, is why we don't write posts at 3 AM.

--Skip

JaxSinfonian
May 6th, 2005, 08:12 AM
Here's one you missed:

9-17 - Jacksonville State vs. UAB

I like to think we've got a shot. If nothing else, we may be able to outnumber the Blazers fans at Legion Field.

ISUMatt
May 6th, 2005, 09:17 AM
OK here is the Updated List so far...

9-1 Northwestern St vs La-Monroe
9-1 Western Illinois vs Toledo
9-1 William & Mary vs Marshall
9-3 Missouri St vs Arkansas
9-3 Eastern Washington vs San Jose St
9-3 Nicholls St vs Utah St
9-3 Cal Poly vs Troy
9-3 Montana St vs Oklahoma St
9-3 Sacramento St vs California
9-3 Murray St vs Mississippi St
9-3 Maine vs Nebraska
9-3 Portland St vs Oregon St
9-3 Illinois St vs Iowa St
9-10 Sam Houston St vs Houston
9-10 UT Martin vs Arkansas St
9-10 Nicholls St vs Indiana
9-10 Samford vs Baylor
9-10 Appalachian St vs Kansas
9-10 SEMO vs Kent St
9-10 Wofford vs West Virginia
9-10 Montana vs Oregon
9-10 Villanova vs Rutgers
9-10 Northern Arizona vs Arizona
9-10 Eastern Illinois vs BYU
9-10 The Citadel vs Florida St
9-10 Weber St vs Fresno St
9-10 Liberty vs Uconn
9-17 Southern Illinois vs Western Michigan
9-17 Grambling vs Washington St
9-17 Northwestern St vs La-Lafayette
9-17 UC Davis vs Stanford
9-17 Western Carolina vs Cincinnati
9-17 Northern Iowa vs Iowa
9-17 Eastern Kentucky vs NC St
9-17 Tennessee Tech vs Northern Illinois
9-17 Mc Neese St vs S Miss
9-17 Jacksonville St vs UAB
9-17 Chattanooga vs Memphis
9-17 Sam Houston St vs Texas Tech
9-17 VMI vs Duke
9-24 Indiana St vs Texas Tech
9-24 Youngstown vs Pittsburgh
9-24 Texas St vs Texas A&M
9-24 Richmond vs Vanderbilt
9-24 Western Kentucky vs Auburn
10-8 Portland St vs Boise St
10-8 The Citadel vs Ole Miss
11-12 Umass vs Army
11-19 Western Kentucky vs Florida International

McNeese75
May 6th, 2005, 09:57 AM
You really think SHSU will do I-AA "proud and fall short" to Texas Tech? They're going to be bruised and battered after battling I-A Houston the week before, then have to go up to Lubbock the following weekend. That's tough!

We will be pulling for you Terror but I agree, it is going to be tough in Lubbock. I do however think you could do well against Houston.

Luck to ya :)

AppMan
May 6th, 2005, 10:35 AM
November 5, 2005 Appalachian vs LSU

exbearkat
May 6th, 2005, 10:51 AM
We will be pulling for you Terror but I agree, it is going to be tough in Lubbock. I do however think you could do well against Houston.

Luck to ya :)
Yes, I like our chances in H-town against UofH. As much as both teams love to chunk the rock around, it should be an extremely high scoring, thus very exciting contest to watch.

NoCoDanny
May 6th, 2005, 11:04 AM
How often has a I-AA hosted a IA? Anyone recall any examples and the results?

Paladin1aa
May 6th, 2005, 11:10 AM
Word in the Columbus Dispatch this morning is that Ohio St. is looking to schedule Youngstown St in 2006.

Thats a $500k- 550k game for the Penguins !! :)

Wmbgskip
May 6th, 2005, 11:17 AM
Edited my post again to reflect a mistake that a venerable Furman supporter pointed out to me in a PM. Bobby Johnson is the Vanderbilt coach, formerly at Furman, while Bobby Lamb is the current Furman coach.

Apologies for the mistake, and thanks to OL FU for the catch.

--Skip

Reed Rothchild
May 6th, 2005, 11:35 AM
Will do I-AA proud but will fall short:

9-17 Northern Iowa vs Iowa



Hate to say it, but this one won't be close and it won't do I-AA proud in the state of Iowa. Anytime UNI plays ISU/Iowa and loses (no matter what the score) it gives the reason for everyone in the state to view UNI as far inferior. :(

ISUMatt
May 6th, 2005, 11:44 AM
Iowa is looking at a probable Top 5 ranking also!!!

ISUMatt
May 6th, 2005, 11:44 AM
Updated List

9-1 Northwestern St vs La-Monroe
9-1 Western Illinois vs Toledo
9-1 William & Mary vs Marshall
9-3 Missouri St vs Arkansas
9-3 Eastern Washington vs San Jose St
9-3 Nicholls St vs Utah St
9-3 Cal Poly vs Troy
9-3 Montana St vs Oklahoma St
9-3 Sacramento St vs California
9-3 Murray St vs Mississippi St
9-3 Maine vs Nebraska
9-3 Portland St vs Oregon St
9-3 Illinois St vs Iowa St
9-10 Sam Houston St vs Houston
9-10 UT Martin vs Arkansas St
9-10 Nicholls St vs Indiana
9-10 Samford vs Baylor
9-10 Appalachian St vs Kansas
9-10 SEMO vs Kent St
9-10 Wofford vs West Virginia
9-10 Montana vs Oregon
9-10 Villanova vs Rutgers
9-10 Northern Arizona vs Arizona
9-10 Eastern Illinois vs BYU
9-10 The Citadel vs Florida St
9-10 Weber St vs Fresno St
9-10 Liberty vs Uconn
9-17 Southern Illinois vs Western Michigan
9-17 Grambling vs Washington St
9-17 Northwestern St vs La-Lafayette
9-17 UC Davis vs Stanford
9-17 Western Carolina vs Cincinnati
9-17 Northern Iowa vs Iowa
9-17 Eastern Kentucky vs NC St
9-17 Tennessee Tech vs Northern Illinois
9-17 Mc Neese St vs S Miss
9-17 Jacksonville St vs UAB
9-17 Chattanooga vs Memphis
9-17 Sam Houston St vs Texas Tech
9-17 VMI vs Duke
9-24 Indiana St vs Texas Tech
9-24 Youngstown vs Pittsburgh
9-24 Texas St vs Texas A&M
9-24 Richmond vs Vanderbilt
9-24 Western Kentucky vs Auburn
10-8 Portland St vs Boise St
10-8 The Citadel vs Ole Miss
11-5 Appalachian St vs LSU
11-12 Umass vs Army
11-19 Western Kentucky vs Florida International

TexasTerror
May 6th, 2005, 03:41 PM
How often has a I-AA hosted a IA? Anyone recall any examples and the results?

TxState-San Marcos hosted FAU last year and I believe they lost to them. I can't recall. FAU and FIU are provisional teams so they played at some I-AAs the last year or two of their provisional time, or whatever it's called.

mikebigg
May 6th, 2005, 03:56 PM
Grambling has a tall order against Washington State in Seattle. The $500K payday is great but we also hope to compete and represent Grambling against huge odds. I actually think we will matchup okay early on...not sure how much depth will enter into things. I think Grambling will be more balanced this year even with Bruce coming back at qb. Our running game really took off at the end of last season...especially Ab Kuaan and Ruben Mayes, a 250 lb fullback who can spells Kuaan at tailback or gets handoff when we do double wing!

arkstfan
May 6th, 2005, 04:17 PM
Grambling State missed its best shot, which was 3-8 San Jose State and on national TV to boot.

I remember watching Grambling at Arkansas State in 1985. Without a doubt the most massive offensive line I've seen. ASU had six guys starting on defense that day that ended up signing either NFL or USFL contracts and they got no penetration on a very sloppy field (rained like heck Thursday and Friday pretty and sunny on Saturday). ASU won 10-7 but one break and Grambling wins.

arkstfan
May 6th, 2005, 04:31 PM
How often has a I-AA hosted a IA? Anyone recall any examples and the results?

I bet Ralph has some more, but this is a start.

1989
Louisiana Tech 40 at Arkansas State 37
Akron 17 at Youngstown State 20
Akron 17 at Eastern Illinois 21
Akron 31 at Murray State 31

1990
Louisiana Tech 51 at McNeese State 3
Louisiana Tech 31 at Louisiana Monroe 7

1991
Louisiana Tech 42 at Arkansas State 10

1997
Idaho 21 at Eastern Washington 24
Idaho 43 at Idaho State 0

1999
Idaho 48 at Eastern Washington 21
Idaho 33 at Montana 30

2001
Idaho 27 at Montana 33

2003
Idaho 28 at Montana 41

mikebigg
May 6th, 2005, 04:42 PM
Grambling State missed its best shot, which was 3-8 San Jose State and on national TV to boot.

I remember watching Grambling at Arkansas State in 1985. Without a doubt the most massive offensive line I've seen. ASU had six guys starting on defense that day that ended up signing either NFL or USFL contracts and they got no penetration on a very sloppy field (rained like heck Thursday and Friday pretty and sunny on Saturday). ASU won 10-7 but one break and Grambling wins.


Yeah, we blew that one big time. Was too pass happy and inconsistent. I hope we have matured into being more balanced. Our O-line this year is huge also...hopefully our new S&C/Secondary Coach (Sam Petitto) formerly of Southeastern will have them in fighting trim come September. His newspaper comments sound promising...we'll see.

I remember the game against ASU. A fumblerooski for a TD did us in and a stout ASU defense. Too bad we never played again. I wouldn't mind seeing a game against you guys in the future. Would there be any interest on the part of ASU?

kats89
May 6th, 2005, 04:43 PM
Don't be surprised if Sam Houston sneaks up on Univ of Houston and gets a W. We will be lucky if Tx Tech doesn't put 70 on us.

arkstfan
May 6th, 2005, 04:57 PM
I remember the game against ASU. A fumblerooski for a TD did us in and a stout ASU defense. Too bad we never played again. I wouldn't mind seeing a game against you guys in the future. Would there be any interest on the part of ASU?

Actually Ray Brown was stopped at the one on the guard around. Rickey Jemison scored the TD. Delaware fans remember him, he was averaging around 50 yards per carry after his first two touches up there.

BTW that's the same Ray Brown who is still playing in the NFL.

The guard around was a regular part of arsenal back then. Two years later we were behind at Jackson State. My brother turned to me and said "You know what time it is?" I said "Yep, guard around" and it was the next play run and went for a huge gain and a TD. Also scored a TD in the 1984 playoffs against Chattanoga with that play.

arkstfan
May 6th, 2005, 04:59 PM
We will be lucky if Tx Tech doesn't put 70 on us.

TCU and Nebraska weren't lucky enough to keep TT under 70 last year.

ysuindy
May 6th, 2005, 10:58 PM
How often has a I-AA hosted a IA? Anyone recall any examples and the results?

Until the MAC banned its members from playing at I-AA schools, YSU hosted several MAC teams along with one game with Cincinnati:

1984 Eastern Michigan 31-7 W
1985 Cincinnati 27-29 L
1986 Eastern Michigan 17-18 L
1988 Akron 7-33 L
1988 Eastern Michigan 12-17 L
1989 Akron 20-17 W
1990 Ohio U. 27-0 W
1990 Akron 28-23 W
1990 Eastern Michigan 24-14 W
1994 Akron 41-7 W
1994 Kent 28-14 W
1995 Central Michigan 25-36 L
1997 Kent 44-23 W

Overall record was 8-5, winning 7 of the last 8.

Tod
May 7th, 2005, 12:28 AM
Until the MAC banned its members from playing at I-AA schools, YSU hosted several MAC teams along with one game with Cincinnati:

1984 Eastern Michigan 31-7 W
1985 Cincinnati 27-29 L
1986 Eastern Michigan 17-18 L
1988 Akron 7-33 L
1988 Eastern Michigan 12-17 L
1989 Akron 20-17 W
1990 Ohio U. 27-0 W
1990 Akron 28-23 W
1990 Eastern Michigan 24-14 W
1994 Akron 41-7 W
1994 Kent 28-14 W
1995 Central Michigan 25-36 L
1997 Kent 44-23 W

Overall record was 8-5, winning 7 of the last 8.


Well, no wonder the MAC forbids it!!!! :) :) :) :mad:

Paladin1aa
May 7th, 2005, 08:58 AM
YSU home games were not the only problem. YSU holds a 17-16-1 record vs. the MAC and many of the losses were extremely close on THEIR field.

So much for I-A. :nod:

Tod
May 7th, 2005, 04:13 PM
2000 I-AA versus I-A, 45 Games, I-AA record: 14-31

W-L, I-AA school, at I-A school
...
...
...
...
9/16 W Southern Utah 7, at San Jose State 47


?????????

Tod
May 7th, 2005, 07:09 PM
Nope, looks good. :)

blackfordpu
May 7th, 2005, 07:17 PM
I am going to go out on a limb here and say that Sam Houston will be UofH. I have just not been impressed by the past few years of UofH football, sure they are I-A but that is only because of the size of the school.

The Texas Tech game I see as being one of two things, a blowout or a really, really close one. I do not see any room for anything in between. If Sam gets their offense going early and can make some early stops on defense I like our chances. Other than that, WATCH OUT!!!

TexasTerror
May 8th, 2005, 11:48 AM
I am going to go out on a limb here and say that Sam Houston will be UofH. I have just not been impressed by the past few years of UofH football, sure they are I-A but that is only because of the size of the school.

They are I-A because they have the scholarship advantage on the Kats. I think SHSU will hang with them through the middle or late part of the 3rd quarter, but the game will go UH's way by two scores. And that's only if we have some WRs who are stepping it up and giving the Kats to hang in there.

UH is two years removed from a bowl. I think last year was a tough year for them, but they will have a better record and go bowling this year.

golionsgo
May 9th, 2005, 12:59 AM
Southeastern Louisiana plays at Tulane, 10/01/05.

Venom
May 9th, 2005, 12:30 PM
FAMU vs University of South Florida 9/10/05

FAMU vs Florida International 10/01/05

charliej
May 9th, 2005, 06:38 PM
11/12 -- UMass at Army

Looking at the 5 A-10/I-A matchups, here's the order I would rank them in likelihood of upset.

UMass at Army -- Weak Army team over the past few seasons, and by most accounts a conference-contender in Amherst. However, I don't discount Bobby Ross in his second year, nor fail to take a grain of salt with UMass. That being said, still the most likely bet at this point in the pre-season. I think that if Army is having a good season by the time they hit November, they'll take it, otherwise, I look for the Minutemen to give the Black Knights a big ole "flesh wound." (Apologies to Monty Python)

W&M at Marshall -- The Herd have a lot of starting gaps to fill...16 of them, actually. W&M's only gap is at QB, with the man Dominique Thompson understudied to until he got hurt at New Hampshire (Josh Lustig) and sophomore standout Joe Nicholas anchoring the wideouts. Especially coming the first week of the season, strong possibility of the A-10 smacking around C-USA. Not ranked first due to the Tribe's dearth of I-A wins since the Temple game.

Villanova at Rutgers -- Wildcats have ruled the city of Brotherly love for the past several years, and remains the favorite for the win among the three A-10/BCS matchups. However, I think Rutgers is getting better, and this will be a tight game either way.

Maine at Nebraska -- I rank this ahead of Richmond/Vandy only because I'm that critical of Richmond's status next season. Maine pulled out the big win last year down south, and could carry the psychological conviction of being able to beat the big boys into this season as well. However, the Huskers are in their second go-round with Bill Callahan's offense, and will be much more comfortable with it. If the Bears win, it'll be another squeaker. If not, it'll be a blowout.

Richmond at Vanderbilt -- I like Dave Clawson. I think by 2006, the Spiders will be competitive in the league. But this is 2005, and the Commodores have Bobby Johnson at the helm, who is no stranger to the abilities of I-AA. I like Richmond to throw the fear of the A-10 into the SEC for the first half at least, but the odds of pulling out the victory are about the same as China telling Taiwan that they will recognize their independence.

--Skip

Pretty good call here.Although I fully expect a Nova win,I'm not as sure as I was on the last go round.Rutgers has improved,besides sooner or later Schiano is going to beat a 1AA.(0-3,maybe 0-4 since taking over the program)Law of averages is starting to come into play here.

Also, I admit that I would be surprised by a UR win over Vandy,but not shocked.

ISUMatt
May 9th, 2005, 09:08 PM
FAMU vs University of South Florida 9/10/05

FAMU vs Florida International 10/01/05

Yea I forgot FAMU slipped back to I-AA my bad!

McNeese75
May 9th, 2005, 09:29 PM
)



Maine at Nebraska -- I rank this ahead of Richmond/Vandy only because I'm that critical of Richmond's status next season. Maine pulled out the big win last year down south, and could carry the psychological conviction of being able to beat the big boys into this season as well. However, the Huskers are in their second go-round with Bill Callahan's offense, and will be much more comfortable with it. If the Bears win, it'll be another squeaker. If not, it'll be a blowout.

--Skip

I'm sorry to disagree but Maine will get beat pretty easily in this game. Nebraska is not Southern Miss.

Tribe4SF
May 10th, 2005, 06:47 AM
I'm sorry to disagree but Maine will get beat pretty easily in this game. Nebraska is not Southern Miss.

If you're referring to last year, Maine beat Miss. St., not Southern Miss. They probably would have lost to Southern Miss and would have had a better chance against Nebraska, which was not a good football team last year.

Anovafan
May 10th, 2005, 03:08 PM
I bet Ralph has some more, but this is a start.

1989
Louisiana Tech 40 at Arkansas State 37
Akron 17 at Youngstown State 20
Akron 17 at Eastern Illinois 21
Akron 31 at Murray State 31

1990
Louisiana Tech 51 at McNeese State 3
Louisiana Tech 31 at Louisiana Monroe 7

1991
Louisiana Tech 42 at Arkansas State 10

1997
Idaho 21 at Eastern Washington 24
Idaho 43 at Idaho State 0

1999
Idaho 48 at Eastern Washington 21
Idaho 33 at Montana 30

2001
Idaho 27 at Montana 33

2003
Idaho 28 at Montana 41

In 1988, just the fourth year back from having no team whatsoever, Nova hosted Wake Forest:

Nova 11, Wake Forest 31.

Not quite sure how Nova got Wake to come to our little 12,000 seat stadium, but they did.

arkstfan
May 10th, 2005, 03:40 PM
Odd.

I noticed that Wake also went to Richmond twice after the Spiders were reclassified I-AA. Some more to add

1982
Louisiana Lafayette 10 at McNeese State 10
Tulsa 38 at North Texas 20

1983
Wake Forest 31 at Richmond 6
Louisiana Lafayette 6 at Louisiana Monroe
Tulsa 22 at Drake 13

1984
Wake Forest 29 at Richmond 16
Louisiana Lafayette 17 McNeese State 30
Louisiana Lafayette 7 at Chattanoga 9
Tulsa 28 at Illinois State 7
Tulsa 24 at Indiana State 17
Tulsa 35 at West Texas A&M 7

1986
Louisiana Lafayette 33 at McNeese State 13

1987
Louisiana Lafayette 17 at Louisiana Monroe 7

1989
Louisiana Lafayette 24 at Louisiana Monroe 10

1990
Louisiana Lafayette 17 at Arkansas State 16

1991
Louisiana Lafayette 17 at Arkansas State 13

WMTribe90
May 10th, 2005, 04:20 PM
I'm really beginning to like our chances at Marshall. They replace 16 starters, including their QB. The have a new coaching staff that was replaced just prior to spring practice this year. WM returns 17 starters and has more depth than at anytime in recent history. While WM hasn't beaten a IA since Temple in 97 we have played ECU, Indiana, and UNC very close in recent years. I will predict two IA wins for the A-10 this year.

Tribe4SF
May 10th, 2005, 06:45 PM
W&M played the following I-As at home after going I-AA.

1980 Wake Forrest
1981 Miami (Ohio)
1982 East Carolina
1983 Rutgers
1984 Temple

McNeese75
May 10th, 2005, 11:29 PM
If you're referring to last year, Maine beat Miss. St., not Southern Miss. They probably would have lost to Southern Miss and would have had a better chance against Nebraska, which was not a good football team last year.

My Bad on the wrong Miss Team. I still do not think they can beat Nebraska in Huskerland, last year, this year or next year. Tough arena for a I-AA team.

arkstfan
May 11th, 2005, 12:14 AM
W&M played the following I-As at home after going I-AA.

1980 Wake Forrest
1981 Miami (Ohio)
1982 East Carolina
1983 Rutgers
1984 Temple

I show Bill and Mary as I-A until the 1982 realignment. Plus some more

1982
East Carolina 31 at William and Mary 27
Boston College 34 at UMass 21

1983
Rutgers 35 at William & Mary 28
Boston College 42 at Yale 7
Army 21 at Harvard 24

1984
Temple 28 at William & Mary 14
Boston College 45 at Holy Cross 10

1986
Boston College 56 at Holy Cross 26
Army 41 at Yale 24

1988
Army 33 at Yale 18

arkstfan
May 11th, 2005, 12:15 AM
Excellent work! You're a real asset to AGS!! :nod:

Glad to help.

Hope you are squirreling these away.

Of course you can pretty much figure the 1982, 1983, and 1984 games were a result of folks not breaking contracts signed when both schools were I-A.

HensRock
May 11th, 2005, 12:52 PM
Delaware hosted some Div-I teams even when it was Div-II! UD moved up to I-AA in 1980, so I'll only include those:

1980: Villanova* at Delaware - WIN 17-7 *Yes, VU was IA then.
1981: Temple at Delaware - WIN 13-7
1983: Temple at Delaware - LOSS 16-23
1985: Navy at Delaware - WIN 16-13
1985: Temple at Delaware - WIN 17-10
1987: Navy at Delaware - LOSS 22-31
1989: Navy at Delaware - WIN 10-9

That's 5-2, not bad.

From the 90's and on, no I-A teams would visit the Tub.

Lehigh Football Nation
May 11th, 2005, 04:26 PM
Something I've been thinking about more lately is the possibility of Lehigh scheduling Penn St. in the future. I don't think this is just an idle possibility for several reasons.

* Penn St. schedules Lehigh in wrestling every year, and both are always in the Top 25
* Penn St. has scheduled Lehigh in men's b-ball the past few years
* They are about a 2 hour drive from each other

The ADs obviously have a relationship in other sports, and for Lehigh fans and players it's a doable bus ride. Maybe this is a good possibility, now that there's a 12th game and a I-AA game counts as a Division I win?

Pantherpower
May 12th, 2005, 07:53 AM
Will do I-AA proud but will fall short:

Lehigh Football Nation,

I appreciate your thoughts on UNI's effort against Iowa this fall but if we stay within 5 touchdowns, I would be surprised. I hope your prediction is true!

GannonFan
May 12th, 2005, 10:12 AM
Something I've been thinking about more lately is the possibility of Lehigh scheduling Penn St. in the future. I don't think this is just an idle possibility for several reasons.

* Penn St. schedules Lehigh in wrestling every year, and both are always in the Top 25
* Penn St. has scheduled Lehigh in men's b-ball the past few years
* They are about a 2 hour drive from each other

The ADs obviously have a relationship in other sports, and for Lehigh fans and players it's a doable bus ride. Maybe this is a good possibility, now that there's a 12th game and a I-AA game counts as a Division I win?

Has Penn St ever played a IAA team? I know with the 12th game and relaxation of the win count that they could be more likely to play one, but there's still a lot of real bad IA teams out there who they could play who are actually easier wins than a Lehigh would be. If they do play a IAA, I could see them picking a Lehigh over a say, Delaware. With Penn St's horrible record versus Michigan they wouldn't want to play anything that closely resembled the Wolverines.

WMTribe90
May 12th, 2005, 01:26 PM
Penn State played WM a while back, but WM may have been IA at the time. I'll have to check on the year. I just remeber seeing it in the media guide at one point.

89Hen
May 12th, 2005, 01:29 PM
1984: Penn State 56 - W&M 18
1983: Penn State 38 - Brown 21

DHS22P
May 12th, 2005, 04:05 PM
I think Samford could beat Baylor. What do you think?

GeauxLions94
May 12th, 2005, 05:00 PM
Southeastern Louisiana at Tulane (do they still qualify as I-A :rolleyes: )

mikebigg
May 12th, 2005, 05:32 PM
I think Samford could beat Baylor. What do you think?

Dude, don't mention the word beat with that picture in the background :D

arkstfan
May 27th, 2005, 08:26 AM
I was just scanning the games where a I-AA hosted a I-A. One thing that jumped out at me was that it happened, obviously it wasn't regular, but it happened when I-A's could count I-AA wins freely. When those games quit counting they disappeared except for Idaho.

jimbo65
May 27th, 2005, 01:43 PM
The Citadel vs Florida St
The Citadel vs Ole Miss[/QUOTE]

The Citadel Administration should be courtmartialed for dereliction of duty for scheduling these games. Payday or not, these mismatches are ridiculous if not criminal.

Tribe4SF
May 27th, 2005, 02:01 PM
1984: Penn State 56 - W&M 18
1983: Penn State 38 - Brown 21

Ron Gillam had a big day receiving for W&M in that game. Paterno sought him out after the game to tell him how impressed he was with his performance.

Umass74
May 27th, 2005, 03:52 PM
1984: Penn State 56 - W&M 18
1983: Penn State 38 - Brown 21

Former UMass coach Mark Whipple was coaching Brown in the 1983 game.

UMgrizzlies
June 1st, 2005, 05:56 PM
I like to think Montana can get a W in Eugene. I like to think one of our QB's will step and lead us to victory. Maybe the Griz fans that make the trip will provide that extra spark. With Oregon's mediocre record last year, we might win, if not stay close.

ISUMatt
June 1st, 2005, 06:17 PM
I like to think Montana can get a W in Eugene. I like to think one of our QB's will step and lead us to victory. Maybe the Griz fans that make the trip will provide that extra spark. With Oregon's mediocre record last year, we might win, if not stay close.

I just hope this game is on ESPNGameplan so I can see it!!!

TxState_GO_CATS!
June 2nd, 2005, 01:14 PM
You really think SHSU will do I-AA "proud and fall short" to Texas Tech? They're going to be bruised and battered after battling I-A Houston the week before, then have to go up to Lubbock the following weekend. That's tough!

OUCH! That's brutal scheduling. Hope you guys stay healthy.

TxState_GO_CATS!
June 2nd, 2005, 01:17 PM
TxState-San Marcos hosted FAU last year and I believe they lost to them. I can't recall. FAU and FIU are provisional teams so they played at some I-AAs the last year or two of their provisional time, or whatever it's called.


Yup...Texas State hosted Florida Atlantic. I think it was the week after FAU upset Hawaii at Hawaii.

FAU 24
Texas State 17