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carney2
November 7th, 2009, 07:17 PM
Finally, the real Patriot League Game of the Year

Saturday, Nov. 14th

LAFAYETTE @ HOLY CROSS
Richmond @ GEORGETOWN
LEHIGH @ FORDHAM
BUCKNELL @ COLGATE

One OOC game in week 10, a loss, so the 2009 W-L totals move to 18-16.

vs. Big South: 1-1
vs. CAA: 1-2
vs. Independents: 1-1
vs. Ivy League: 10-8
vs. MEAC: 0-1
vs. NEC: 4-2
vs. Pioneer: 1-1

Standings after week 9:

Holy Cross 4-0 PL, 8-1 Total
Lafayette 4-0, 8-1
Colgate 3-2, 8-2
Lehigh 2-2, 2-7
Fordham 1-3, 4-5
Bucknell 1-3, 3-6
Georgetown 0-5, 0-9

ngineer
November 7th, 2009, 09:09 PM
I have seen Holy Cross in person, and a couple of the 'pards' games on tv. I have to say that this should be a great game. Despite the home field advantage, I'm picking Laughteryette because of their balanced offense. Curley is not the physical specimen Randolph is, but he's a very heady player and is making good decisions. Randolph, against Lehigh, tried to do too much at times, and almost cost his team the game because of it. I think LC will see how Lehigh was able to pressure him and feed off that. LC's offense should be able to move the ball on HC as well. Picking the 'Pards, 38-35.

Richmond coming off their upset to loss to Villanova will likely be scary. This could be 'big time ugly'...and probably should, but London will call off the dogs and give the backups some rep time. Spiders resew the web, 45-10

Colgate may have trouble with the Bison as the wild loss to Laughteryette lingers in their brains. Bucknell has been a 'stubborn' team for all opponents this year, but they just don't have the horses. This is also Colgate's last game, so they'll want to end up on a high note at home. Red Raiders, 31-17.

Lehigh will be looking to finish strong heading into #145, and after coming oh-so close to knocking off #13 Holy Cross, confidence should be growing that they can win against a gunslinger like Skelton. I look for Lehigh to be more ball control to keep him off the field. The running game showed well against Holy Cross, and should have been used more.(don't get me started on our OC). But barring a mental let down, I see Lehigh coming back with a nice 27-17 win.

RichH2
November 7th, 2009, 09:37 PM
LC , if not overconfidant, comfortable win. While LC showed little D vs Gate ,I think they have a bit more than HC.

LU over FU, both have disappointed this year but LU has D FU does not

GU will show up for Richmond unfortunately for Hoyas so will Spiders.

Gate over BU but close Biddle will have to bring them back after such a tough game.

Sader87
November 7th, 2009, 09:58 PM
Lafayette 59 HC 3 Will get ugly early and often.

LU 24 Fordham 21 Engineers ground Skelton.

Richmond 77 GU 6 This game was scheduled why exactly?

Colgate 38 Bison 10 Red Raiders bounce back.

RichH2
November 7th, 2009, 10:03 PM
87, I think you've gone a bit over the falls . You may indeed see the same LC D on Sat. Final could be 56-55. Think LC's balanced O and a presumably better D will win out 38-28 or so.

Altho, if Spiders dont sit there starters in the 2nd half, could score 70+

HoyaMetanoia
November 7th, 2009, 10:05 PM
What could the line on the Georgetown-Richmond game even be at this point?

Very disappointed, however, that it will not be a #1 vs #118 matchup, with Richmond's loss to Nova.

Pard4Life
November 7th, 2009, 10:49 PM
If Curley somehow outplays Randolph, should he deserve 1st team All-Patriot?

Pard4Life
November 7th, 2009, 10:51 PM
Geez carney, I guess the 24-hour Tavani rule doesn't apply to you?

DFW HOYA
November 8th, 2009, 07:15 AM
This game was scheduled why exactly?

Georgetown can't get on any new Ivy schedules for 3-4 more years and absent any other interest (e.g., it's not like Villanova or UNH is calling...), filled its schedule with opponents within a 2-3 hour drive (Howard, Old Dominion, Richmond)

Games like this can't help with recruiting, and recruiting could get worse over the next 2-3 years but for the simple fact that winless teams don't draw recruits' interest.

Hoyas finished winless on the road for the second time in four years, and open 2010 with four straight on the road and five of its first six.

Pard94
November 8th, 2009, 07:31 AM
Finally, the real Patriot League Game of the Year

Saturday, Nov. 14th

LAFAYETTE @ HOLY CROSS
Richmond @ GEORGETOWN
LEHIGH @ FORDHAM
BUCKNELL @ COLGATE

One OOC game in week 10, a loss, so the 2009 W-L totals move to 18-16.

vs. Big South: 1-1
vs. CAA: 1-2
vs. Independents: 1-1
vs. Ivy League: 10-8
vs. MEAC: 0-1
vs. NEC: 4-2
vs. Pioneer: 1-1

Standings after week 9:

Holy Cross 4-0 PL, 8-1 Total
Lafayette 4-0, 8-1
Colgate 3-2, 8-2
Lehigh 2-2, 2-7
Fordham 1-3, 4-5
Bucknell 1-3, 3-6
Georgetown 0-5, 0-9

Lafayette vs. Holy Cross...I've never been so excited for a trip to Worcester in all my life. Heart beats head in this instance. I'm going with the illogical homer pick Lafayette wins 38-35. Sader87's cheese has slipped off of his cracker. All of the sudden HC can only come up with 3 points? Huh?

Richmond vs. Georgetown...Why? Why? Richmond wins in a walk. They enact the mercy rule when the score hits 59-0. Should be a good tune up for the Spider's 4th string.

Lehigh vs. Fordham...I know I said Lehigh doesn't win again this year. I am changing my tune. They need to win this game to attain maximum annoyance levels heading into The Rivalry.

Bucknell vs. Colgate...Colgate gets back on track 28-12. Eachus is a stud. Just thought I'd throw that in there.

carney2
November 8th, 2009, 12:03 PM
Geez carney, I guess the 24-hour Tavani rule doesn't apply to you?

He has his rules. I have mine.

Ivytalk
November 8th, 2009, 12:56 PM
Lafayette vs. Holy Cross...I've never been so excited for a trip to Worcester in all my life. Heart beats head in this instance. I'm going with the illogical homer pick Lafayette wins 38-35. Sader87's cheese has slipped off of his cracker. All of the sudden HC can only come up with 3 points? Huh?

Richmond vs. Georgetown...Why? Why? Richmond wins in a walk. They enact the mercy rule when the score hits 59-0. Should be a good tune up for the Spider's 4th string.

Lehigh vs. Fordham...I know I said Lehigh doesn't win again this year. I am changing my tune. They need to win this game to attain maximum annoyance levels heading into The Rivalry.

Bucknell vs. Colgate...Colgate gets back on track 28-12. Eachus is a stud. Just thought I'd throw that in there.

What he said. Lafayette wins a close shootout on the road.

Keenan
November 8th, 2009, 01:15 PM
What could the line on the Georgetown-Richmond game even be at this point?

Very disappointed, however, that it will not be a #1 vs #118 matchup, with Richmond's loss to Nova.

Going by USA Today Sagarin Ratings Predictor
Richmond (-44) @ Georgetown

Why on earth would Richmond schedule this game?

Franks Tanks
November 8th, 2009, 01:27 PM
Going by USA Today Sagarin Ratings Predictor
Richmond (-44) @ Georgetown

Why on earth would Richmond schedule this game?

Why not? They played Duke and the brutal CAA South schedule. I think they deserve one easy OOC game.

jcmanson
November 8th, 2009, 01:28 PM
Go Pards!

Fordhamanhattan
November 8th, 2009, 04:12 PM
Fordham over Lehigh 35-28 Skelton puts on a show in his last appearance on Jack Coffey Field before he heads to the professional ranks. understand, he's been invited to appear in a few post season all star games.
Cross over the Leopards. 35-28The Crusaders won't change their spot at home.
Colgate pastes Bucknell 35-14 Bison don't have any offensive weapons as usual.
Richmond takes it easy with Georgetown 35-7 Spiders show some class against the outclassed.

carney2
November 8th, 2009, 07:34 PM
Go Pards!

Are you certain about that? A Lafayette win throws Holy Cross into the at-large pool and my suspicion is that they have a better shot at making the playoffs from the losers bracket than any other Patriot League team. Since the Liberty folks are hoping for one of those last 2-3-4 at-large spots, I would think that a Lafayette win might - just might - reduce their chances to some extent. Anyway, Liberty supporters, I'd be careful what I wished for in this one.

carney2
November 8th, 2009, 07:48 PM
LAFAYETTE @ HOLY CROSS
Lafayette Holy Cross has the best player in the Patriot League since Gordie Lochbaum. Lafayette has the best team in the Patriot League in 2009. I’m taking the team over the player - and am beginning to pray.

Richmond @ GEORGETOWN
Richmond

LEHIGH @ FORDHAM
Lehigh Three weeks ago I made up my mind that the ChickenSquawks would not/could not win another game this year. Now I’m not so sure. I’d have more confidence if this weren’t being played in The Bronx on Senior Day.

BUCKNELL @ COLGATE
Colgate

Sader87
November 8th, 2009, 07:56 PM
LAFAYETTE @ HOLY CROSS
Lafayette Holy Cross has the best player in the Patriot League since Gordie Lochbaum. Lafayette has the best team in the Patriot League in 2009. I’m taking the team over the player - and am beginning to pray.

Richmond @ GEORGETOWN
Richmond

LEHIGH @ FORDHAM
Lehigh Three weeks ago I made up my mind that the ChickenSquawks would not/could not win another game this year. Now I’m not so sure. I’d have more confidence if this weren’t being played in The Bronx on Senior Day.

BUCKNELL @ COLGATE
Colgate

It's Lockbaum...but no worries. I still think Ciaccio (HC QB, class of '92) may have been a little bit better overall than Randolph.

carney2
November 8th, 2009, 08:18 PM
It's Lockbaum...but no worries. I still think Ciaccio (HC QB, class of '92) may have been a little bit better overall than Randolph.

I forgot about Ciaccio. Tom, wasn't it? He was excellent. As I recall, he was a great runner as well as a solid overall QB. Still, Randolph seems able to control the outcome of games better than anyone I remember. I'm still thinking he's the man of these past two decades.

This could get really ugly and expand into yet another 100+ post thread. How about Phil Stambaugh, Jordan Scott, Jamaal Branch, Eric Marsh...?

letsgopards04
November 9th, 2009, 07:45 AM
LAFAYETTE @ HOLY CROSS - Lafayette's D makes just enough stops while Air Curley throws all over the Crusaders.
Richmond @ GEORGETOWN
LEHIGH @ FORDHAM
BUCKNELL @ COLGATE

jcmanson
November 9th, 2009, 07:59 AM
Are you certain about that? A Lafayette win throws Holy Cross into the at-large pool and my suspicion is that they have a better shot at making the playoffs from the losers bracket than any other Patriot League team. Since the Liberty folks are hoping for one of those last 2-3-4 at-large spots, I would think that a Lafayette win might - just might - reduce their chances to some extent. Anyway, Liberty supporters, I'd be careful what I wished for in this one.

If the committee chose HC over us in that scenario, I would be very surprised and pissed off.

HC would be 9-2 with no good wins. Their best win would be over a 3rd place Colgate team, and 2 losses worse than either of Liberty’s.

FUrams7
November 9th, 2009, 08:06 AM
Holy Cross over Lafayette-- 31-27
Fordham over Lehigh-- 37-24
Colgate over Bucknell 31-14
Richmond over G'town hope they have mercy..

Franks Tanks
November 9th, 2009, 08:14 AM
If the committee chose HC over us in that scenario, I would be very surprised and pissed off.

HC would be 9-2 with no good wins. Their best win would be over a 3rd place Colgate team, and 2 losses worse than either of Liberty’s.

They would also have beaten potential IVy Champs Harvard.

jcmanson
November 9th, 2009, 08:33 AM
They would also have beaten potential IVy Champs Harvard.

Patriot > Ivy

Pard94
November 9th, 2009, 08:42 AM
Patriot > Ivy


Oh boy. While I agree with you...that kind of statement is certainly liable to whip up the 6 ivy league supporters on this board.

DFW HOYA
November 9th, 2009, 08:47 AM
Patriot > Ivy


Top 3 of Patriot > Top 3 Ivy

Middle of Patriot = Middle of Ivy

Bottom of Ivy > Bottom of Patriot

Then again, after last week:
Middle of Pioneer >> Bottom of Patriot

Franks Tanks
November 9th, 2009, 08:50 AM
Patriot > Ivy

Top of Ivy equals or exceeds top of Patriot most years. This is the first year in a while that a PL team swept the best of the Ivies. Holy Cross did lose to a Brown team that is not in the hunt for the Ivy title.

jimbo65
November 9th, 2009, 08:57 AM
Holy Cross in a close one but home cooking is a big edge

Rams over Mountain Hawks in another close one. Were the game on the road would go the other way

Colgate over Bison, saw Bison v. Rams and their offense seemed to consist of the QB running. Colgate by 3 touchdowns. More if they have the same refs they had aginst Fordham.

Richmond over Gtown. Requisceat in Pace, this game could be a rerun of the Charge of the Light Brigade. Then again, you never know, witness yeaterday's defeat of the Packers by the Bucs, who wore those original orange uniforms.

Bogus Megapardus
November 9th, 2009, 09:28 AM
Patriot > Ivy

xsmhxxsmhxxsmhx

Not true. Lafayette was better this year but from a historical perspective it was an anomaly. Harvard/Yale/Princeton/Penn typically win their PL series.

Pard94
November 9th, 2009, 09:38 AM
xsmhxxsmhxxsmhx

Not true. Lafayette was better this year but from a historical perspective it was an anomaly. Harvard/Yale/Princeton/Penn typically win their PL series.

Whether it was an anomoly or the beginning of a trend has yet to be seen. No arguing that it is a fact this year though.

Pard4Life
November 9th, 2009, 10:35 AM
If you take away Gtown OOc losses, our league has a pretty decent mark. We don't know how we'd stack up against the CAA or top leagues because we don't play anybody aside from URI, Northeastern on a regular basis. And Lehigh hasn't been good enough to even challenge Nova.

TheValleyRaider
November 9th, 2009, 12:25 PM
Lafayette at Holy Cross Holy Cross Two good squads, I'm taking the home team. Holy Cross finally gets its key Patriot League tilt in Worcester, and this time they won't disappoint the home fans. It's the Crusaders' time

Richmond at Georgetown Richmond Coming off their first loss, the Spiders will likely be looking to bounce back. Yeah....

Lehigh at Fordham Fordham This one is kinda tough, as both have fluctuated in results throughout the season (even if the fluctuation ranges from "win" to "close loss" to "bad loss"). With nothing else to really go on, I'll take the home team

Bucknell at Colgate Colgate Disappointing that a potentially 9-2 season will wind up with nothing else to show for it. Hopefully they come out with fire in the belly for one last hurrah on the Andy Kerr turf until attention shifts to hockey

65 Pard
November 9th, 2009, 06:38 PM
Lafayette over HC by 10...Air Curley has more fighters than Air Randolph, but neither will run out of ammo.

Lehigh by 7 over the Rams. The engineers want it more.

Richmond by however many they want over Georgetown

Colgate by 14

VT Wildcat Fan53
November 9th, 2009, 08:02 PM
LAFAYETTE 24 @ HOLY CROSS 30 (OT) xthumbsupx xpeacex Ole Fitton Field is treated to the PL Game of the last few years. Randolph does NOT disappoint the Purple faithful.
Richmond 83 @ GEORGETOWN 0 xeekx The Perfect Storm
LEHIGH 14 @ FORDHAM 17 xrotatehx Skelton pulls out the win with 0:00 on the clock!
BUCKNELL 10 @ COLGATE 45 xeyebrowx Biddle rights the ship, .... finally

ColgateTD
November 9th, 2009, 09:23 PM
I forgot about Ciaccio. Tom, wasn't it? He was excellent. As I recall, he was a great runner as well as a solid overall QB. Still, Randolph seems able to control the outcome of games better than anyone I remember. I'm still thinking he's the man of these past two decades.

How about Ryan Vena?...xeekx

Franks Tanks
November 9th, 2009, 09:37 PM
How about Ryan Vena?...xeekx

I played against Vena. He was a great player, but Colgate didnt quite ask Vena to do as much as The Cross asks Randolph.

With that being said Vena was the consumate winner, not sure Dom can elevate to Vena's status without a championship.

DFW HOYA
November 10th, 2009, 06:17 AM
Georgetown coach Kevin Kelly: "Right now the score is 0-0. We understand we’re the underdog, but we’ll give it a shot and see what happens."

http://www.thehoya.com/sports/field-goal-sinks-gu/

carney2
November 10th, 2009, 07:34 AM
How about Ryan Vena?...xeekx

Like I said, this could get to be a long discussion.

carney2
November 10th, 2009, 12:10 PM
So far 7 people have picked Lafayette and 6 have picked Holy Cross in this week's version of the Game of the Year. Moving to more "objective viewponts (i.e., those people with no obvious affiliation to either school), 5 have picked Holy Cross and 3 have picked Lafayette.

Bogus Megapardus
November 10th, 2009, 12:12 PM
So far 7 people have picked Lafayette and 6 have picked Holy Cross in this week's version of the Game of the Year. Moving to more "objective viewponts (i.e., those people with no obvious affiliation to either school), 5 have picked Holy Cross and 3 have picked Lafayette.

Still no "objective" Sportsbook line out for this week. I am "guessing" you will see Cross -7 will a prediction of 35 - 28, or something like that.

crusader11
November 10th, 2009, 12:28 PM
Holy Cross for me. If we are favored by a touchdown though, I'd take Lafayette with the points.

Go...gate
November 10th, 2009, 02:25 PM
I played against Vena. He was a great player, but Colgate didnt quite ask Vena to do as much as The Cross asks Randolph.

With that being said Vena was the consumate winner, not sure Dom can elevate to Vena's status without a championship.

Vena, ably tutored by Fred Dunlap (who came out of retirement to coach him for two seasons), resurrected a dead program. He had a horrendous first game (second half) against Penn in the fourth game of the 1996 season and the rest was history.

Also, Colgate 31-8 against the Ivy since 1996. We have more than held our own against the whole conference and would love to have the chance to play Penn again after they rubbed our noses in it when the program was struggling, which was one of the few periods when the Quackers would schedule us.

Pards Rule
November 10th, 2009, 03:32 PM
Gate, we have been returning the favor the last few years for you

Go...gate
November 10th, 2009, 04:10 PM
Gate, we have been returning the favor the last few years for you

Many thanks. The Quackers deserve a hell of a lot of payback.

HoyaMetanoia
November 10th, 2009, 04:55 PM
Georgetown coach Kevin Kelly: "Right now the score is 0-0. We understand we’re the underdog, but we’ll give it a shot and see what happens."

http://www.thehoya.com/sports/field-goal-sinks-gu/

Even if the score started Georgetown 28, Richmond 0, I'm pretty sure we couldn't play ball control and win the game.

ngineer
November 10th, 2009, 09:24 PM
I played against Vena. He was a great player, but Colgate didnt quite ask Vena to do as much as The Cross asks Randolph.

With that being said Vena was the consumate winner, not sure Dom can elevate to Vena's status without a championship.

I agree on the observation. While Randolph is one hell of a QB, I think Vena had a better overall team around him. HC relies too much on Randolph to carry the load and by scheming correctly on him, HC can be shut down, as we almost did last week. For the same reason, I'm picking LC to win Saturday because they appear to have better overall team balance.

Sader87
November 10th, 2009, 09:31 PM
Randolph, for whatever reason, was "pressing" last week. I give Lehigh's D all the credit in the world for bringing that about. They defended HC better than anyone this year by far.

I think Randolph's a great talent but if he does have a flaw (and Lord knows, we all do), it's that he tries to do too much at times.

Hopefully he'll limit his "chutzpah" this week and guide the Saders to victory.

Pard4Life
November 11th, 2009, 08:15 AM
Vena, ably tutored by Fred Dunlap (who came out of retirement to coach him for two seasons), resurrected a dead program. He had a horrendous first game (second half) against Penn in the fourth game of the 1996 season and the rest was history.

Also, Colgate 31-8 against the Ivy since 1996. We have more than held our own against the whole conference and would love to have the chance to play Penn again after they rubbed our noses in it when the program was struggling, which was one of the few periods when the Quackers would schedule us.

Uh, yeah... what's that Ivy record against sub-par Dartmouth, Cornell, and Princeton teams?

Bogus Megapardus
November 11th, 2009, 08:20 AM
Uh, yeah... what's that Ivy record against sub-par Dartmouth, Cornell, and Princeton teams?

Be fair, now. The Pards got to chew on sub-par Columbia all those years. That's worth at least two Dartmounths.

Pards Rule
November 11th, 2009, 08:20 AM
Any one with the official line on HC-LC??

Bogus Megapardus
November 11th, 2009, 08:23 AM
Any one with the official line on HC-LC??

I just checked and it's still not up. It should be this morning sometime. I'll post all Ivy and PL lines as soon as they're up. I'll see if I can find a Williams/Amherst line, too . . . xnodx

Pards Rule
November 11th, 2009, 08:29 AM
God, I actually looked into those two schools but realized that Div 3 wasn't on the Prudential Halftime Scoreboard (anyone remember that? Please bring it back rather than this overobsessed constant running of FBS Top 25 crap!!) when I was considering in fall 1979 - 30 years ago!!

Bogus Megapardus
November 11th, 2009, 08:30 AM
FCS lines are starting to come up . . . only have Penn +1 at Harvard so far . . .

Pard4Life
November 11th, 2009, 08:30 AM
Ok...

Richmond 49, Gtown 3... subs play most of game.

Lehigh 28, Fordham 24... expected more out of the Rams this season. Lehigh has the best defense in the PL with an offense starting to click. They will be ready for the Pards.

Colgate 38, Bucknell 21... Colgate's season is over at 9-2. Wow that felt good to say.. So I'll say it again! Colgate's season is over at 9-2!

Holy Cross 35, Lafayette 34... Though I guaranteed this a win earlier in the year, I'm picking a loss solely on the dread factor. Something weird, illogical, or moronic (the story of LC football) has yet to cost us a game this year. On a technical basis, the Pards are better: stronger D, HC poor first down and pass protection, the offense revolving around Randolph. Gate was more of a threat with Eachus/McCord/Sullivan, but our DL is the best and should disrupt Randolph in the pocket. He is prone to INTs. Both believe they can win... will it come down to Davis PATs?

Go...gate
November 11th, 2009, 08:34 AM
Uh, yeah... what's that Ivy record against sub-par Dartmouth, Cornell, and Princeton teams?

Hey Pard, WTH's your problem these days? You beat us. So did Cross. Colgate has made no excuses; you guys were better.

Bogus Megapardus
November 11th, 2009, 08:35 AM
Still trickling in . . . . Duquesne at Sacred Heart, anyone?

Pard4Life
November 11th, 2009, 08:37 AM
Be fair, now. The Pards got to chew on sub-par Columbia all those years. That's worth at least two Dartmounths.

Well...

Dartmouth > Columbia
Penn >> Princeton
Harvard >>>> Cornell

Pards play the toughest Ivy schedule each year.

Pard4Life
November 11th, 2009, 08:40 AM
Hey Pard, WTH's your problem these days? You beat us. So did Cross. Colgate has made no excuses; you guys were better.

I really don't like Colgate football, coupled with all the close losses the past few years. It wouldn't be surprising if we lost the next six meetings... party while you can.

Bogus Megapardus
November 11th, 2009, 08:40 AM
Book is up:

Lafayette at Holy Cross

Lafayette +3
Holy Cross -3

TheValleyRaider
November 11th, 2009, 08:41 AM
Well...

Dartmouth > Columbia
Penn >> Princeton
Harvard >>>> Cornell

Pards play the toughest Ivy schedule each year.

They inflate their record against Lafayette xwhistlex

Bogus Megapardus
November 11th, 2009, 08:44 AM
Vegas is calling this game a pick and giving Cross the standard three for home field. This means that the Pards MUST bring at least 2,500 to Fitton to make some noise.

Bogus Megapardus
November 11th, 2009, 08:59 AM
Sportsbook for Week 11 . . . .


Pennsylvania at Harvard

Pennsylvania +1½ Over 33½
Harvard -1½ Under 33½

Lafayette at Holy Cross

Lafayette +3 Over 59
Holy Cross -3 Under 59

Columbia at Cornell

Columbia -3 Under 43
Cornell +3 Under 43

Dartmouth at Brown

Dartmouth +15 Over 50
Brown -15 Under 50

Richmond at Georgetown

Richmond -41 Over 46½
Georgetown +41 Under 46½

Yale at Princeton

Yale -7½ Over 32
Princeton +7½ Under 32

Bucknell at Colgate

Bucknell +21½ Over 51½
Colgate -21½ Under 51½

Lehigh at Fordham

Lehigh +5 Over 44 xlolxxrotatehxxnodx
Fordham -5 Under 44


* * * * * * *

Franks Tanks
November 11th, 2009, 09:01 AM
I really don't like Colgate football, coupled with all the close losses the past few years. It wouldn't be surprising if we lost the next six meetings... party while you can.

Frank has bulit a program. As good as Colgate is I dont see us losing to them 6,7,8 times in a row any longer. Since we got consistenly good in 2004 we are 2-4 against the Gate. Not spectacular, but much better than our historic record. We should win at the least 1 out of 3 againt Colgate going forward

Go...gate
November 11th, 2009, 09:09 AM
I really don't like Colgate football, coupled with all the close losses the past few years. It wouldn't be surprising if we lost the next six meetings... party while you can.

Sorry you feel this way. Have to admit I like and support the Pards and Engineers a lot, Cross is a traditional and respected Colgate rival, and I had family at Fordham, so most of the PL has a family tone to it. You support your own.

I haven't made a pick for this week (it is damn tough), but I hope Lafayette plays a great game - to its full potential - against Cross and I want Cross to do the same.

Go...gate
November 11th, 2009, 09:10 AM
Vegas is calling this game a pick and giving Cross the standard three for home field. This means that the Pards MUST bring at least 2,500 to Fitton to make some noise.

Fitton can be a great place to play when it is anywhere near full. I really like it.

Bogus Megapardus
November 11th, 2009, 09:10 AM
Frank has bulit a program. As good as Colgate is I dont see us losing to them 6,7,8 times in a row any longer. Since we got consistenly good in 2004 we are 2-4 against the Gate. Not spectacular, but much better than our historic record. We should win at the least 1 out of 3 againt Colgate going forward

Pards always have great backs but we still don't have a Nate Eachus. Just imagine this season if we did . . .

Pard4Life
November 11th, 2009, 09:15 AM
Pards always have great backs but we still don't have a Nate Eachus. Just imagine this season if we did . . .

We'd be Colgate 2003. But, I like what White and Morrow give us. We just have not run as much as we usually do.

Franks Tanks
November 11th, 2009, 09:39 AM
Pards always have great backs but we still don't have a Nate Eachus. Just imagine this season if we did . . .

Eachus is a special player.

Hebron is pretty big and very athletic.. hoping he develops into a Jonathan Hurt type player. However, I think that may be Hebron's ceiling. Its a very good place to be, but not Eachus.

DFW HOYA
November 11th, 2009, 09:47 AM
Georgetown +41 Under 46½


Doesn't speak well for Georgetown's offense in this game.

Bogus Megapardus
November 11th, 2009, 09:57 AM
Doesn't speak well for Georgetown's offense in this game.

DFW - the oddsmakers are saying the Hoya offense will put up 5½ on the Spiders. It's that last ½ point that might prove the toughest. How they get the initial 5 is anyone's guess. :p

Pards Rule
November 11th, 2009, 09:59 AM
Eachus is a special player.

Hebron is pretty big and very athletic.. hoping he develops into a Jonathan Hurt type player. However, I think that may be Hebron's ceiling. Its a very good place to be, but not Eachus.

Can Vaughan's dad be a volunteer RB coach??

Franks Tanks
November 11th, 2009, 10:00 AM
Can Vaughan's dad be a volunteer RB coach??


He is too busy on Eagles Post Game Live

Pards Rule
November 11th, 2009, 10:34 AM
But thats on Sunday!!

Bogus Megapardus
November 11th, 2009, 10:35 AM
Can Vaughan's dad be a volunteer RB coach??

I'm sure he's already a volunteer Vaughn, Jr. coach!

HoyaMetanoia
November 11th, 2009, 11:09 AM
DFW - the oddsmakers are saying the Hoya offense will put up 5½ on the Spiders. It's that last ½ point that might prove the toughest. How they get the initial 5 is anyone's guess. :p

If the game is +41 that means they think Richmond will win by 41. If the over/under is 46.5 that means the combined points must be 46.5. That means they believe Georgetown will score 2.75 and Richmond will score 43.75.

Bogus Megapardus
November 11th, 2009, 11:13 AM
If the game is +41 that means they think Richmond will win by 41. If the over/under is 46.5 that means the combined points must be 46.5. That means they believe Georgetown will score 2.75 and Richmond will score 43.75.

You're right - my bad. Maybe if the field goal dribbles over the crossbar you can get partial credit . . . .

DFW HOYA
November 11th, 2009, 12:47 PM
You're right - my bad. Maybe if the field goal dribbles over the crossbar you can get partial credit . . . .

No "rouge" points in the PL, either.

Lehigh Football Nation
November 11th, 2009, 12:49 PM
Georgetown can't get on any new Ivy schedules for 3-4 more years and absent any other interest (e.g., it's not like Villanova or UNH is calling...), filled its schedule with opponents within a 2-3 hour drive (Howard, Old Dominion, Richmond)

Games like this can't help with recruiting, and recruiting could get worse over the next 2-3 years but for the simple fact that winless teams don't draw recruits' interest.

I unearthed this one because there's a good point to be made here.

Winless teams or sub-.500 have some strikes against them when it comes to recruiting, but not always. What's the great equalizer? FBS games.

It's a lot easier to recruit a kid to Indiana State - a team with no recent history of winning - when you can say "In your junior year you'll be playing Louisville, and your senior year, Cincinnati". The PL can't compete by saying "You're going to play Havard every year, or Yale in 2012!"

The NCAA unfortunately has made the playing field for FBS bowl eligibility tied to scholarship limits. That means the already-slim number of FBS games Patriot teams were getting have become "none". That's a much bigger FCS recruiting disadvantage than folks have cared to talk about.

I think one of the biggest cases for PL football scholarships is for this reason alone. Not for guarantee chasing - just for opportunities for the athletes. I don't think any Lehigh player forgot beating Buffalo or playing UConn when those games were scheduled.

The same can happen with Georgetown. Imagine one game with Maryland - how much interest that would spark inside and outside the program. Even if you went 2-9 or 3-8 everything would change.

DFW HOYA
November 11th, 2009, 01:26 PM
I think one of the biggest cases for PL football scholarships is for this reason alone. Not for guarantee chasing - just for opportunities for the athletes. I don't think any Lehigh player forgot beating Buffalo or playing UConn when those games were scheduled. The same can happen with Georgetown. Imagine one game with Maryland - how much interest that would spark inside and outside the program. Even if you went 2-9 or 3-8 everything would change.

Spending $3.5M to get to 60 schoalrships is a laudable (if highly unlikely) goal, but there's no guarantee Maryland would ever extend such an offer. Remember, these two schools haven't played in a regular season series in basketball in 30 years.

ColgateTD
November 11th, 2009, 02:47 PM
I interrupt this program to bring you another set of predictions:

Holy Cross - I could go either way on this one, but wonder which is more important to the Pards: The PL Title or The 145th? With LU gaining steam each week I think the right side of the Pard's brain will be thinking about the Ngineers and they will take their eyes off the ball just enough to give Dom the edge.

Richmond - should bounce back against the Hoyas.....(duh)

Colgate - Biddle is a finisher and he won't let the Raiders leave the field without one last win in 2009. Eachus + McCord = over 200 yds.

Lehigh - another close one. The losses to 'Gate and HC were warm-up games, as is this one. The Ngineers have their eyes on building strategy for an upset in The 145th. A win over the Rams should ensure that all cylinders are working for The Rivalry Game.

41-8 on the season...xcoolx

HoyaMetanoia
November 11th, 2009, 02:48 PM
Spending $3.5M to get to 60 schoalrships is a laudable (if highly unlikely) goal, but there's no guarantee Maryland would ever extend such an offer. Remember, these two schools haven't played in a regular season series in basketball in 30 years.

You're missing the point. If it's not UMD, then maybe UVA. It would certainly be a motivating factor for players.

Franks Tanks
November 11th, 2009, 02:55 PM
I interrupt this program to bring you another set of predictions:

Holy Cross - I could go either way on this one, but wonder which is more important to the Pards: The PL Title or The 145th? With LU gaining steam each week I think the right side of the Pard's brain will be thinking about the Ngineers and they will take their eyes off the ball just enough to give Dom the edge.

Richmond - should bounce back against the Hoyas.....(duh)

Colgate - Biddle is a finisher and he won't let the Raiders leave the field without one last win in 2009. Eachus + McCord = over 200 yds.

Lehigh - another close one. The losses to 'Gate and HC were warm-up games, as is this one. The Ngineers have their eyes on building strategy for an upset in The 145th. A win over the Rams should ensure that all cylinders are working for The Rivalry Game.

41-8 on the season...xcoolx


With all due respect to the Rivalry, everyone in Maroon would rather win the PL and makes the playoffs. If we lose to Cross and beat Lehigh it will still be a fine year, but the PL championship is the number one goal every year.

Bogus Megapardus
November 11th, 2009, 02:58 PM
Question: Has D. Rudolph played in really windy or rainy weather this year? What, if any, was its effect on his performance?

Go...gate
November 11th, 2009, 02:59 PM
Question: Has D. Rudolph played in really windy or rainy weather this year? What, if any, was its effect on his performance?

He played a good game against Colgate in snow squalls and wind last year.

Bogus Megapardus
November 11th, 2009, 03:04 PM
He played a good game against Colgate in snow squalls and wind last year.

Worcester, MA - Event Day Forecast for Nov. 14

Showers
Daytime High:50°F
Overnight Low:47°F
Probability of Precipitation: 40%
Wind: From the East Northeast at 16 mph


Rain plus16 mph winds coming over the east endzone - enough to affect things?

Go...gate
November 11th, 2009, 03:10 PM
Worcester, MA - Event Day Forecast for Nov. 14

Showers
Daytime High:50°F
Overnight Low:47°F
Probability of Precipitation: 40%
Wind: From the East Northeast at 16 mph


Rain plus16 mph winds coming over the north endzone - enough to affect things?

Throwing a wet ball instead of a cold one may make a difference, but it is his field, so he will know the dips, divots and ball marks. The Lafayette players may need to bring mud cleats.

Franks Tanks
November 11th, 2009, 03:13 PM
Throwing a wet ball instead of a cold one may make a difference, but it is his field, so he will know the dips, divots and ball marks. The Lafayette players may need to bring mud cleats.

Only our second game on grass since The Lehigh game in 07. Every one of our games was on turf last year, and only Yale on grass this year.

Bogus Megapardus
November 11th, 2009, 03:15 PM
Only our second game on grass since The Lehigh game in 07. Every one of our games was on turf last year, and only Yale on grass this year.

Tricky for a back-peddling secondary. Will they take practice reps at Metzgar this week?

colorless raider
November 11th, 2009, 03:22 PM
It was Colgate's only game on grass and our corners were falling down and the field was in good shape despite earlier rain. Wind is the key factor, however it did not appear that the pards ground game is much better that HC so who knows??

Franks Tanks
November 11th, 2009, 03:30 PM
Tricky for a back-peddling secondary. Will they take practice reps at Metzgar this week?

Good question-- dont know if they ever go to Metzgar these days

Pard4Life
November 11th, 2009, 03:33 PM
It was Colgate's only game on grass and our corners were falling down and the field was in good shape despite earlier rain. Wind is the key factor, however it did not appear that the pards ground game is much better that HC so who knows??

Eh, Pards played on a wet field at Yale and their speed was still effective. Downpour in the third too. Don't think Randolph's familiarity with the field matters since it changes each play. It's not like theirs a mud pit at the 20 a la 2005 Fisher Field.

carney2
November 11th, 2009, 04:17 PM
With all due respect to the Rivalry, everyone in Maroon would rather win the PL and makes the playoffs. If we lose to Cross and beat Lehigh it will still be a fine year, but the PL championship is the number one goal every year.

Speak for yourself. Plucking the Squawks is not a good thing. It is the only thing. To beat the Cross and then lose to the DungBoys would send all of these great weeks into the hopper. The following week against [write in the CAA team of your choice here] would not be on my radar screen if that happened. Losing to the 'saders and then also the Featherheads would be only slightly worse. Tavani is on my permanent s _ _ t list for his idiot performance last year against the Poultry. I do not forgive. I do not forget.

carney2
November 11th, 2009, 04:19 PM
Question: Has D. Rudolph played in really windy or rainy weather this year? What, if any, was its effect on his performance?

The northeast set a record with 7 consecutive Saturdays of rain this fall. I think that Dom the Bomb is probably accustomed to it.

Bogus Megapardus
November 11th, 2009, 04:48 PM
the Poultry

xlolxxnodxxlolxxnodxxlolxxnodx

Lehigh Football Nation
November 11th, 2009, 04:51 PM
Tavani is on my permanent s _ _ t list for his idiot performance last year against the Poultry. I do not forgive. I do not forget.

For this reason alone I'm thinking of putting Tavani on my Christmas Card list. xnodx

Fordhamanhattan
November 11th, 2009, 06:32 PM
John Skelton has been selected to the East-West Shrine game in Orlando in January. he is just the third Patriot league player to be so honored.

Franks Tanks
November 11th, 2009, 06:40 PM
Speak for yourself. Plucking the Squawks is not a good thing. It is the only thing. To beat the Cross and then lose to the DungBoys would send all of these great weeks into the hopper. The following week against [write in the CAA team of your choice here] would not be on my radar screen if that happened. Losing to the 'saders and then also the Featherheads would be only slightly worse. Tavani is on my permanent s _ _ t list for his idiot performance last year against the Poultry. I do not forgive. I do not forget.

I understand where you are coming from Carney, but I disagree.

I would chose a PL title and a playoff appearance, over a win vs. Lehigh. A win over Lehigh is still critically important, but it is not our only goal every seson.

Franks Tanks
November 11th, 2009, 06:42 PM
John Skelton has been selected to the East-West Shrine game in Orlando in January. he is just the third Patriot league player to be so honored.

Great for Skelton. Who were the other PL players chosen?

Invites to this game are based on who scouts want to see, so he has a great chance of being drafted if he performs well.

Bogus Megapardus
November 11th, 2009, 06:43 PM
John Skelton has been selected to the East-West Shrine game in Orlando in January. he is just the third Patriot league player to be so honored.

Congratulations!!! xthumbsupx

Fordham
November 11th, 2009, 07:13 PM
Lafayette
Richmond
Colgate
Lehigh

HoyaMetanoia
November 11th, 2009, 08:38 PM
Can this week's predictions re: Georgetown-Richmond take the spread (41 points) into account, please? It's too easy to pick the winner.

Pard94
November 11th, 2009, 08:48 PM
I understand where you are coming from Carney, but I disagree.

I would chose a PL title and a playoff appearance, over a win vs. Lehigh. A win over Lehigh is still critically important, but it is not our only goal every seson.

I'm with you FT. It's always great to beat Lehigh but everyone I played with, myself included, looked at the championship first and Lehigh a close second. I think only alum would suggest that the Lehgih game is more important. No offense to anyone intended just a fact. I never knew of any player who didn't want to win the championship first.

ngineer
November 11th, 2009, 09:40 PM
I'm with you FT. It's always great to beat Lehigh but everyone I played with, myself included, looked at the championship first and Lehigh a close second. I think only alum would suggest that the Lehgih game is more important. No offense to anyone intended just a fact. I never knew of any player who didn't want to win the championship first.

I think perspectives have changed over the years due to being in a league with an actual championship and the result of AQ. Back in my era, there was no league and you just hoped some committee would recognize your season's accomplishments. So the L-L game had more of an 'end all' effect. Plus, before 1971 there were no playoffs either. So the 'younger generation' while always wanting to win that last game, has had different prizes to play for.

ngineer
November 11th, 2009, 09:44 PM
John Skelton has been selected to the East-West Shrine game in Orlando in January. he is just the third Patriot league player to be so honored.

Well I know John Hill from our 1971 team was selected at center, and I seem to recall that Adam Bergen played at tight end as well. If not those two, who?

RichH2
November 11th, 2009, 09:49 PM
Branch from Colgate perhaps.

Fordhamanhattan
November 12th, 2009, 06:01 AM
Gordie Lockbaum and Adam Bergen

Fordhamanhattan
November 12th, 2009, 06:28 AM
As John Skelton's entire family comes up to Rose Hill from El Paso for his final appearance on Jack Coffey field, it would be a fitting time to recall what an singular set of cicumstances led to his arrival in The Bronx. In high school, he was seriously considered by Texas Tech and UTEP where his father played and his mother also attended. But they chose not to offer. With the clock ticking, two of his uncles who played at Columbia suggested the Lions. So John traveled up north but the new coaching staff at Morningside Heights showed no interest. An uncle suggested dropping a tape at nearby Fordham. Newly hired Coach Massella took one look at the tape and was off to El Paso. The rest is history. Despite his size, the remarkable thing about Skelton is his athleticism. He played basketball and shortstop in high school. One of his uncles is a minority owner of the Texans so don't be surprised if they give him a shout. Finally, he is a grounded young man. His father coaches high school football and is a strong no nonsense native Oklahoman. At a recent post game tailgate, John and his brother Steve were very kind and respectful to an old timer Andy Lukac, the captain of Fordham's 8-1 1950 team which was our last very good big time team. Andy, a Pennsylvania coalminers son, told them of first going to Notre Dame to play for Frank Leahy but after military service being advised to avoid the loaded Bertelli-Lujack Irish by Fordham assistant coach Vince Lombardi. Andy was one of the few to be coached by Lombadi then play against him when Mr. Lombardi moved up the Hudson to coach with Earl Blaik and the Black Knights. Looking forward to Saturday.

RichH2
November 12th, 2009, 07:38 AM
Interesting history. My Dad played for Fordham 40-41. Fordham football was one of his passions. Wish that he could have lived long enuf to enjoy FU-LU games.
Should be fun on Saturday even with the wind and rain.

Sader87
November 12th, 2009, 07:54 AM
Before Lockbaum, John Provost (another DB) '74 was the last Sader in the East-West Shrine game. There were multiple players from the 40's and 50's.

http://www.goholycross.com/sports/m-footbl/archive_files/honors.pdf

Pard4Life
November 12th, 2009, 08:05 AM
So far, the only other QBs are Lefevour of Central Michigan and Max Hall of BYU. A WR from Citadel is the only other FCS player.

Pard4Life
November 12th, 2009, 08:08 AM
I still think Curley deserves an all-league nod over Skelton, and maybe Randolph pending Saturday.

Pard94
November 12th, 2009, 08:34 AM
I still think Curley deserves an all-league nod over Skelton, and maybe Randolph pending Saturday.

You know what? I totally agree with you. Skelton is an impressive talent but Curely has done more withhis talents to actually help his team win. And that's what it should be all about. No doubt Dominic should get the first team nod because he is a supremely talented QB who also helped his team put together a championship type season. Skelton...not so much.

Lehigh Football Nation
November 12th, 2009, 08:58 AM
If Lafayette wins this weekend, look for a "Randolph 1st team/Skelton-Curley tie for 2nd team" solution for the all-League team. That is, of course, if Curley wins his final two regular-season games.

Locks no matter what for all-League team: Poulson, Schmidlein, probably Rodriguez. And plenty of others.

DFW HOYA
November 12th, 2009, 12:04 PM
Locks no matter what for all-League team: Poulson, Schmidlein, probably Rodriguez. And plenty of others.

How many picks by school this year? Here was 2008:

Colgate: 8 first team, 12 overall
Holy Cross: 5 first team, 11 overall
Lafayette: 4 first team, 10 overall
Lehigh: 7 first team, 9 overall
Fordham: 2 first team, 5 overall
Bucknell: 1 first team, 4 overall
Georgetown: 0 first team, 2 overall
(Is this the year the voters select no GU awardee?)

Bogus Megapardus
November 12th, 2009, 12:11 PM
How many picks by school this year? Here was 2008:

Is this the year the voters select no GU awardee?

That would never happen.

ngineer
November 12th, 2009, 12:34 PM
I still think Curley deserves an all-league nod over Skelton, and maybe Randolph pending Saturday.

If he shines and LC wins out, no question, including over Randolph.

Pard94
November 12th, 2009, 02:31 PM
Here's my best guess for Lafayette this year

1st team

Poulson
Dell
Leggerio
Schmidlein
McGovern
Wojik
Hart-Predmore
Layton

2nd team

Bennet
Stripe
Rodriguez


At least that's how it should be! By the way all of these players should recieve all Ivy accolades as well.

Go...gate
November 12th, 2009, 03:30 PM
John Skelton has been selected to the East-West Shrine game in Orlando in January. he is just the third Patriot League player to be so honored.

You mean since the PL was founded, right?

Andy Kerr of Colgate coached the East squad in the Shrine for many years (30's and 40's). Prior the founding of the PL many players from its membership were named to the team.

ngineer
November 12th, 2009, 04:51 PM
You mean since the PL was founded, right?

Andy Kerr of Colgate coached the East squad in the Shrine for many years (30's and 40's). Prior the founding of the PL many players on its membership were named to the team.

OK-that's where I missed the PL start...John Hill was when I played when there was no league, but D-II.

DFW HOYA
November 12th, 2009, 09:04 PM
That would never happen.

That's good to hear. I wasn't sure if one of those 0-11 Fordham teams met a similar fate.

Georetown's likely 2nd team selection: LB Nick Parrish. I can't see any offensive pick this year.

ColgateTD
November 13th, 2009, 10:32 AM
Gotta put in a plug for 'Gate's Simonds & Eachus for All-League, and Sullivan on 4th team (if there is a 4th team)....xconfusedx

McCord could be in the mix as well.

Pard4Life
November 13th, 2009, 10:49 AM
OPOY: Randolph or Curley
DPOY: Leggiero, LC
ROY: Houghton, HC
Coach OY: Tavani, regardless the outcome tmrw

HoyaMetanoia
November 13th, 2009, 10:52 AM
OPOY: Randolph or Curley
DPOY: Leggiero, LC
ROY: Houghton, HC
Coach OY: Tavani, regardless the outcome tmrw

Not Kelly? Are you serious?

carney2
November 13th, 2009, 10:52 AM
That's good to hear. I wasn't sure if one of those 0-11 Fordham teams met a similar fate.

Georetown's likely 2nd team selection: LB Nick Parrish. I can't see any offensive pick this year.

There was also a DB, whose name escapes me at the moment, who looked good early on.

carney2
November 13th, 2009, 11:00 AM
Hey, Bogus, anything on lines for this weekend yet? With Lafayette having a Sagarin edge of 2.17 points* and then bumping HC a little for being the home team, I would think this might be anywhere from even to Lafayette by less than a TD.

Saturday's weather forecast fpr WooMass is deteriorating by the hour. The latest:

Rain. Rain may be heavy at times in the afternoon. Near steady temperature around 50. Northeast winds 10 to 15 mph with gusts up to 25 mph. Chance of rain near 100 percent

Who that favors is anybody's guess.

*Saqarin rating points are not scoreboard points. You do not simply add 3 to the Sagarin differential to get the spread. (If I knew how they do it - or, to put it another way, if I knew what I was talking about - I wouldn't be asking Bogus what's up - and I'd be rich.)

Go Lehigh TU owl
November 13th, 2009, 11:10 AM
37-11 Overall, 14-1 in PL games

Richmond 45 Georgetown 0: I have to think the Spiders will show some sort of mercy on the Hoyas.

Colgate 31 Bucknell 21: Colgate has stumbled a bit down the stretch. Their defense has to be a bit of a concern but the Bison have struggled all year on "O".

Lafayette 31 Holy Cross 28: I just believe Lafayette is the more complete team. Holy Cross really does go as DR does. Lafayette does just enough to escape Worcester with a "W".

Lehigh 31 Fordham 20: I don't know why i'm picking Lehigh, i just am. Fordham has done nothing really all year but some how has managed 2 more wins than Lehigh. If Lehigh comes to play i think they're just a little better. However, Lehigh must win by more than 10, otherwise they'll lose.

RichH2
November 13th, 2009, 11:25 AM
Owl

If its 7 or under we lose. 14 or more we win. Hell of a handicap. Weather should help us tho. If its not too bad I will go to game

SoCalAg
November 13th, 2009, 11:46 AM
HC wins a shootout, 45-35

Bogus Megapardus
November 13th, 2009, 11:52 AM
anything on lines for this weekend yet?

I won't have a legitimate Vegas line until late next Tuesday or Wednesday morning. If HC/LC and LU/FU are close games (regardless of the winner) I would expect it to be something in the neighborhood of Lafayette -8.5 over Lehigh taking into account home field.

Bogus Megapardus
November 13th, 2009, 11:54 AM
anything on lines for this weekend yet?


See Post #63

Lafayette at Holy Cross

Lafayette +3 Over 59
Holy Cross -3 Under 59

carney2
November 13th, 2009, 12:00 PM
See Post #63

Lafayette at Holy Cross

Lafayette +3 Over 59
Holy Cross -3 Under 59

I guess I should start paying attention.

Bogus Megapardus
November 13th, 2009, 12:09 PM
My guesses for this weekend:

Fordham over Lehigh, 31 to 21

Lafayette over Holy Cross, 31 to 28 (that means you, Davis Rodriguez)

Richmond over Georgetown, 41 to 6

Colgate over Bucknell, 38 to 10


* * * * * * * *

CrusaderBob
November 13th, 2009, 02:35 PM
Here we go ...

Richmond - enough said

Lehigh - been play well, just coming up short. Have to beware the let down between HC & the 145th, but they badgered Randolph all game last week. Will do more of the same against Skelton.

Colgate - Bounce back from a tough loss.

Holy Cross - The weather? Doesn't matter. Who each team played and who they beat? Doesn't matter. How they played last week? Doesn't matter. For the second year in a row HC is in the de facto PL Championship and trying not to be second for the third year in a row. This game is why Randolph is still playing college FB and he has more than enough support. The defense has been better than given credit for, particularly when Anthony DiMichele has played in the secondary. He's expected to be there tomorrow along with DE Alex Carson (both missed last week against LU) and will give HC enough defense to allow the Crusaders to win!

Go...gate
November 13th, 2009, 04:39 PM
Fordham 27, Lehigh 23

Holy Cross 37, Lafayette 31

Richmond 45, Georgetown 6

Colgate 30, Bucknell 16

Lehigh Football Nation
November 13th, 2009, 10:05 PM
I think I was perfect last weekend. Here are the sources of my picks this weekend:

http://www.championshipsubdivisionnews.com/index.php/2009/11/12/the-csn-way-win-and-you-re-in?blog=5

http://lehighfootballnation.blogspot.com/2009/11/game-preview-lehigh-at-fordham.html

Lehigh at Fordham. Say what you want about Lehigh, but the Mountain Hawks know the importance of winning the game before "that school in Easton". They've won eleven straight games the second weekend in November (and the game they lost in 1997 wasn't exactly a cakewalk - a 24-19 defeat to Delaware).

Some teams quit after being out of the Patriot League race, but this team doesn't strike me in that way. This team has fought hard through the losses, trying to find answers to questions. And with the biggest game yet to play for, the players know they need to win this one to get to next weekend.

They don't know what they'll get next weekend: either the Leopards will be Patriot League champs, or they'll be 8-2 and will need to beat Lehigh to have a prayer at making the playoffs as an at-large team. But they do know they need to win this weekend to have a chance, and I think the hard work will pay off handsomely with a win here. Win here, and go into "The Rivalry" guns blazing.

Lehigh 31, Fordham 17

Not incredibly far from Harvard Stadium is Fitton Field, where Payton Award candidate Dominic Randolph will aim to make his closing argument for the award when his Holy Cross team faces off against Lafayette for the Patriot League championship. Randolph has been a multi-faceted attack for the Crusaders: not only passing the ball (2,810 passing yards, 28 touchdowns) but also running the ball (426 yards, 5 touchdowns). He’s one tantalizing win away from the goals that have eluded Holy Cross for nearly two decades: a Patriot League title (their last was in 1991) and a place in the FCS playoffs (their last, and only, appearance was in 1983).

That’s not to sell short Lafayette’s chances, with quarterback Rob Curley (2,432 passing yards, 23 touchdowns) coming almost out of nowhere to potentially lead the Leopards to their fourth playoff appearance in the last six years. A more efficient passer than Randolph - and fresh off a seven touchdown performance in a 56-49 victory over Colgate - Curley could lead the Leopards to the victory here.

But at home, in front of the biggest crowd Holy Cross may have seen in years, it just seems like Randolph should have what it takes to finally give the Crusaders that elusive Patriot League title.

Meanwhile, Colgate will attempt to make their closing argument for an at-large playoff berth against Bucknell. They’ll do so - and hope that the rest of the FCS world implodes in a 2012-like disaster area. (It might.)

Purple Defense Eaters 42, Curley-Tailed Leopards 38
Panty Raiders 49, Bison Burgers 12

While the Villanova Wildcats shouldn’t have too much trouble with 2-7 Towson this weekend, and the Richmond Spiders won’t have any struggles with the winless Georgetown Hoyas, it’s New Hampshire’s trip to William & Mary that looms as an interesting game that could be for a home game - or more - in the FCS playoffs. The Tribe, who have done it with a stifling defense (led by defensive lineman Adrian Tracy’s 50 tackles and 7 sacks), the Wildcats’ balanced offense (powered by running backs Chad Kackert and Sean Jellison) and opportunistic defense (defensive back Dino Vasso and linebacker Terrance Klein both have four interceptions apiece) have won games for New Hampshire.

New Hampshire has always struggled against the Tribe, and I think that trend holds this week as Tracy and company set up a big game next weekend against Richmond.

David Robinson’s Alma Mater 42, Joe Flacco’s Alma Mater 3
Spider Men 56, Hoya Boyas 0
Nova Nation 24, Tigger Nation 6
Terrific Tribe 20, Peanut Butter and Jellison’s 13

Bogus Megapardus
November 14th, 2009, 07:33 AM
Fitton @ 8:30 AM (from NOAA):

Wind from the NE (040 degrees) at 16 MPH (14 KT) gusting to 23 MPH (20 KT)
Visibility 2 mile(s)
Sky conditions overcast
Weather Rain
Mist
Precipitation last hour 0.06 inches
Temperature 46 F (8 C)
Dew Point 44 F (7 C)
Relative Humidity 93%
Pressure (altimeter) 30.07 in. Hg (1018 hPa)

Bogus Megapardus
November 14th, 2009, 07:44 AM
Good luck to everyone today (yes even you, Lehigh). Thoughts go especially to the Hoyas who have a very difficult match. Play tough and stay healthy!

RichH2
November 14th, 2009, 08:11 AM
Same here, Championship game s/b a lulu. Maythe better team win.

Sader87
November 14th, 2009, 09:03 AM
Absolutely POURING in Worcester...wussing out and watching online here.

Bogus Megapardus
November 14th, 2009, 09:16 AM
Absolutely POURING in Worcester...wussing out and watching online here.

No excuse not to go if you're there already.