AGS Poll Week 6 Results

[AGSPoll]

Any Given Saturday Poll Top 25

(First place votes in parenthesis), Points

1. Richmond (70) 2368
2. Northern Iowa (20) 2296
3. New Hampshire (4) 2168
4. Montana (2) 2131
5. Southern Illinois 1899
6. Villanova 1883
7. William & Mary 1811
8. Elon 1709
9. Central Arkansas 1605
10. Appalachian St. 1588
11. South Carolina St. 1197
12. South Dakota St. 1161
13. McNeese St. 1023
14. Jacksonville St. 992
15. Weber St. 926
16. Delaware 794
17. James Madison 776
18. Cal Poly 774
19. Massachusetts 670
20. Stephen F. Austin 619
21. Colgate 604
22. Eastern Washington 419
23. Florida A&M 321
24. Furman 311
25. Eastern Kentucky 244

Others receiving votes (minimum of 5 votes): Liberty (51), Holy Cross (38), Chattanooga (26), Northern Arizona (26), Eastern Illinois (18), Prairie View A&M (17), Harvard (9), Montana St. (8), Central Connecticut St. (5)

MOST SIGNIFICANT WIN OF THE WEEK: New Hampshire
MOST SIGNIFICANT LOSS OF THE WEEK: Villanova

[JoshUCA]

Top 10! Woo Hoo!

[Lehigh Football Nation]

Any Given Saturday Poll Top 25

(First place votes in parenthesis), Points

Others receiving votes (minimum of 5 votes):Harvard (9), Montana St. (8), Central Connecticut St. (5)

There's a really serious question here: Why no love for Harvard?

[JSU02]

At least we are starting to get some repect :)

[danefan]

There's a really serious question here: Why no love for Harvard?

Really?

I find myself asking the exact opposite question - what would make anyone vote for Harvard at all?

[bluehenbillk]

Top 10 looks good.

Too High: SC State, Weber & JMU

Too Low: SFA

[ISUMatt]

Harvard falls into that 30ish rank for me

[El Gato]

Three Southland Conference Teams in the top 20. Great for the SLC. If things pan out, the SLC could send two teams into the postseason this year. Will be fun to watch newcomer to the top 25, No. 20 SFA take on No. 9 UCA this weekend. This game will be televised on SLC TV for any of those interested.

TxState better get their crap together if there is an hope in making it into the postseason though, as the cats will face these top 20 teams all back to back beginning in two weeks.

[DOME]

# 5 plays at #2 this weekend...gonna be a BATTLE!

[dbackjon]

NAU not in the poll shows this to be a complete JOKE. Pathetic voting.

[yorkcountyUNHfan]

# 5 plays at #2 this weekend...gonna be a BATTLE!

For the third week in a rowxsmiley_wix

[mcveyrl]

NAU not in the poll shows this to be a complete JOKE. Pathetic voting.

FWIW (which is not much), they were in mine.

[93henfan]

FWIW (which is not much), they were in mine.

Mine too. I had four from the BSC, so don't go all ECB on me.

[cats2506]

NAU not in the poll shows this to be a complete JOKE. Pathetic voting.


I agree

[WestCoastAggie]

SC State @ 11 = WOAH!!!!

[smallcollegefbfan]

Three Southland Conference Teams in the top 20. Great for the SLC. If things pan out, the SLC could send two teams into the postseason this year. Will be fun to watch newcomer to the top 25, No. 20 SFA take on No. 9 UCA this weekend. This game will be televised on SLC TV for any of those interested.

TxState better get their crap together if there is an hope in making it into the postseason though, as the cats will face these top 20 teams all back to back beginning in two weeks.

Looks like Steele is half right on Hofstra with them clearly being improved but not top 10 like he had them and Texas State is not looking good at all where Steele had them outside the top 40 and nobody else did. Anyone started looking at how the preseason lists have compared to the postseason lists this year?

[mcveyrl]

Mine too. I had four from the BSC, so don't go all ECB on me.

I was not there. I had three.

[smallcollegefbfan]

NAU not in the poll shows this to be a complete JOKE. Pathetic voting.

I agree. I had NAU #21 this week and I think SFA should have been 4-5 spots higher, at least.

[smallcollegefbfan]

Any Given Saturday Poll Top 25

(First place votes in parenthesis), Points

1. Richmond (70) 2368
2. Northern Iowa (20) 2296
3. New Hampshire (4) 2168
4. Montana (2) 2131
5. Southern Illinois 1899
6. Villanova 1883
7. William & Mary 1811
8. Elon 1709
9. Central Arkansas 1605
10. Appalachian St. 1588
11. South Carolina St. 1197
12. South Dakota St. 1161
13. McNeese St. 1023
14. Jacksonville St. 992
15. Weber St. 926
16. Delaware 794
17. James Madison 776
18. Cal Poly 774
19. Massachusetts 670
20. Stephen F. Austin 619
21. Colgate 604
22. Eastern Washington 419
23. Florida A&M 321
24. Furman 311
25. Eastern Kentucky 244

Others receiving votes (minimum of 5 votes): Liberty (51), Holy Cross (38), Chattanooga (26), Northern Arizona (26), Eastern Illinois (18), Prairie View A&M (17), Harvard (9), Montana St. (8), Central Connecticut St. (5)

MOST SIGNIFICANT WIN OF THE WEEK: New Hampshire
MOST SIGNIFICANT LOSS OF THE WEEK: Villanova

Based on this I would say the most overrated team is SC State. I think they should be outside of the top 15. Colgate could qualify as well. They should be no higher than 23 or 24, at best. The most underrated is NAU for not being in the top 25 but SFA is lower than I thought too.

EKU should fall out and put NAU at #21 and Colgate at #25 with SFA a few spots higher and then I would be all for this.

[UNIFanSince1983]

For the third week in a rowxsmiley_wix

Yeah this doesn't make me feel good since #5 beat #2 just this past weekend. Although #2 beat #5 the weekend before...

[bluehenbillk]

Just noticed NAU isn't in there. Add them to my "too low" list. I had them in my poll.

[Panther88]

Any Given Saturday Poll Top 25

(First place votes in parenthesis), Points

1. Richmond (70) 2368
2. Northern Iowa (20) 2296
3. New Hampshire (4) 2168
4. Montana (2) 2131
5. Southern Illinois 1899
6. Villanova 1883
7. William & Mary 1811
8. Elon 1709
9. Central Arkansas 1605
10. Appalachian St. 1588
11. South Carolina St. 1197
12. South Dakota St. 1161
13. McNeese St. 1023
14. Jacksonville St. 992
15. Weber St. 926
16. Delaware 794
17. James Madison 776
18. Cal Poly 774
19. Massachusetts 670
20. Stephen F. Austin 619
21. Colgate 604
22. Eastern Washington 419
23. Florida A&M 321
24. Furman 311
25. Eastern Kentucky 244

Others receiving votes (minimum of 5 votes): Liberty (51), Holy Cross (38), Chattanooga (26), Northern Arizona (26), Eastern Illinois (18), Prairie View A&M (17), Harvard (9), Montana St. (8), Central Connecticut St. (5)

MOST SIGNIFICANT WIN OF THE WEEK: New Hampshire
MOST SIGNIFICANT LOSS OF THE WEEK: Villanova

This is what I'd call a poll voted upon by idjits. I'm talking straight up numbskull and dumb****s. :D

I refuse to speak football w/ "poll voters" who never even participated in the game outside of being a stadium bleacher dweller. I'll wait for the coaches poll or the SportsNetwork poll. The ags "poll" is a load of monkey crap.

[smallcollegefbfan]

This is what I'd call a poll voted upon by idjits. I'm talking straight up numbskull and dumb****s. :D

I refuse to speak football w/ "poll voters" who never even participated in the game outside of being a stadium bleacher dweller. I'll wait for the coaches poll or the SportsNetwork poll. The ags "poll" is a load of monkey crap.

You would be surprised. There are a few AGS voters who work in the media. :D

[danefan]

This is what I'd call a poll voted upon by idjits. I'm talking straight up numbskull and dumb****s. :D

I refuse to speak football w/ "poll voters" who never even participated in the game outside of being a stadium bleacher dweller. I'll wait for the coaches poll or the SportsNetwork poll. The ags "poll" is a load of monkey crap.

Don't hold your breath for the Coaches or TSN poll.

Both are pretty bad this year and neither would fit your criteria. The TSN is made of 'media members' and the Coaches poll is dominated by SIDs that vote for their coaches. Not exactly the "on-field" experience you are looking for.

[Bill Hanson]

Why is Mcneese so high?

[ElonPride]

You would be surprised. There are a few AGS voters who work in the media. :D

Hey now! I'm a TV guy! ....but I don't vote in the poll!

[89Hen]

There's a really serious question here: Why no love for Harvard?
They're overrated as it is. xcoffeex

[89Hen]

I refuse to speak football w/ "poll voters" who never even participated in the game outside of being a stadium bleacher dweller.
Why are so many ob/gyn's men? xcoffeex

[mcveyrl]

This is what I'd call a poll voted upon by idjits. I'm talking straight up numbskull and dumb****s. :D

I refuse to speak football w/ "poll voters" who never even participated in the game outside of being a stadium bleacher dweller. I'll wait for the coaches poll or the SportsNetwork poll. The ags "poll" is a load of monkey crap.


Don't hold your breath for the Coaches or TSN poll.

Both are pretty bad this year and neither would fit your criteria. The TSN is made of 'media members' and the Coaches poll is dominated by SIDs that vote for their coaches. Not exactly the "on-field" experience you are looking for.

I'll second danefan's response and also point out that all three polls are pretty similar.

But while we're on the topic. Please post your extremely educated former player Top 25.

[89Hen]

Just noticed NAU isn't in there. Add them to my "too low" list. I had them in my poll.
Me too. xnodx

[89Hen]

NAU not in the poll shows this to be a complete JOKE. Pathetic voting.


FWIW (which is not much), they were in mine.


Mine too. I had four from the BSC, so don't go all ECB on me.


I agree. I had NAU #21 this week and I think SFA should have been 4-5 spots higher, at least.


Just noticed NAU isn't in there. Add them to my "too low" list. I had them in my poll.


Me too. xnodx
Jon, looks like maybe the problem lies with your fellow non-eastern fans. Those of us in the East seem to have them in their ballots. :p

[LAWdiddy]

What does Elon have to do to get respect. Number 8? Are you kidding me. What does Elon have to do to convince y'all they are a Top 5 team that will contend for a national title?

[soccerguy315]

What does Elon have to do to get respect. Number 8? Are you kidding me. What does Elon have to do to convince y'all they are a Top 5 team that will contend for a national title?

beat somebody good?

[PantherRob82]

What does Elon have to do to get respect. Number 8? Are you kidding me. What does Elon have to do to convince y'all they are a Top 5 team that will contend for a national title?

Show up for your FCS game?

[uofmman1122]

Jon, looks like maybe the problem lies with your fellow non-eastern fans. Those of us in the East seem to have them in their ballots. :pI had them in mine.

Methinks the problem lies in the same types of people who got SCSU ranked #11. I'll eat my socks if they really are the #11 team in the country.

[Lehigh Football Nation]

What does Elon have to do to get respect. Number 8? Are you kidding me. What does Elon have to do to convince y'all they are a Top 5 team that will contend for a national title?

I had them at No. 3.

[89Hen]

Methinks the problem lies in the same types of people who got SCSU ranked #11. I'll eat my socks if they really are the #11 team in the country.
I think it's possible for a team like SCSt to be #11 without receiving any votes of 11 or better. I'm guessing they are on just about every ballot in the 14-18ish range, which when added up gives them enough votes to be 11. (I have them 17). NAU is just getting on some people's radar. xpeacex

[LAWdiddy]

Furman and Citadel are tough teams. They survived Furman and kicked the turd out of The Citadel. They've proven to have the best defense bar none in the FCS and their offense isnt bad either. but yeah you guys are right they suck

[uofmman1122]

I think it's possible for a team like SCSt to be #11 without receiving any votes of 11 or better. I'm guessing they are on just about every ballot in the 14-18ish range, which when added up gives them enough votes to be 11. (I have them 17). NAU is just getting on some people's radar. xpeacexThey've been on my radar since we almost lost to them. xlolx

[CamelCityAppFan]

Furman and Citadel are tough teams. They survived Furman and kicked the turd out of The Citadel. They've proven to have the best defense bar none in the FCS and their offense isnt bad either. but yeah you guys are right they suck

Elon has never been to the playoffs, never won the SoCon. 8th is possibly the highest they've ever been ranked on AGS. They've been steadily moving up in polls. Respect is earned through accomplishment, not because fans demand it. If Elon keeps winning, ranking will continue to rise. But there are still plenty of conference games left.

[Ronbo]

NAU not in the poll shows this to be a complete JOKE. Pathetic voting.

I agree with you NAU and Montana State would beat 10 teams in the top 25.

[LAWdiddy]

Elon has never been to the playoffs, never won the SoCon. 8th is possibly the highest they've ever been ranked on AGS. They've been steadily moving up in polls. Respect is earned through accomplishment, not because fans demand it. If Elon keeps winning, ranking will continue to rise. But there are still plenty of conference games left.

is this a poll based on previous success or lack thereof? my understanding is that we are ranking this years' teams.

[89Hen]

I agree with you NAU and Montana State would beat 10 teams in the top 25.
Cripes Ronbo. I too think NAU should be in the poll, but do you really have to make silly statements like this?

[Panther88]

I'll second danefan's response and also point out that all three polls are pretty similar.

But while we're on the topic. Please post your extremely educated former player Top 25.

Hold your breath for 10 mins mcveyrl and then I'll post it. lol :D

[danefan]

is this a poll based on previous success or lack thereof? my understanding is that we are ranking this years' teams.

xlolxxlolxxlolx

Some teams are being ranked based on what they did in 2003.

[LAWdiddy]

Yeah, and that's a load of bull.

[uofmman1122]

Cripes Ronbo. I too think NAU should be in the poll, but do you really have to make silly statements like this?He probably would have been better by saying "could very easily beat" instead of "would beat."

I could easily see NAU beating these teams:

11. South Carolina St. 1197
12. South Dakota St. 1161
14. Jacksonville St. 992
15. Weber St. 926
18. Cal Poly 774
19. Massachusetts 670
21. Colgate 604
22. Eastern Washington 419
23. Florida A&M 321
24. Furman 311
25. Eastern Kentucky 244

Heck, even in the Big Sky, I'd say NAU is playing better than anyone but Montana.

[89Hen]

He probably would have been better by saying "could very easily beat" instead of "would beat."
Much, but that wouldn't be his style. xsmiley_wix

[HensRock]

Another East Coast vote for NAU.
I had them at #17 in my ballot.
xthumbsupx

[89Hen]

I could easily see NAU beating these teams:

15. Weber St. 926
BTW, at least we will get a chance to see that one. Tough finish for NAU...

@ Mississippi, @ Weber State, EWU xeyebrowx

[MacThor]

What does Elon have to do to get respect. Number 8? Are you kidding me. What does Elon have to do to convince y'all they are a Top 5 team that will contend for a national title?

Who would you rank them ahead of? You'd leapfrog 3 teams above.

FWIW, I ranked them 7.

[uofmman1122]

BTW, at least we will get a chance to see that one. Tough finish for NAU...

@ Mississippi, @ Weber State, EWU xeyebrowxWell, the good news for NAU fans is that if they win the other BSC games, they can lose two of those three games and still make the playoffs.....

...Technically. xlolx

[gophoenix]

What does Elon have to do to get respect. Number 8? Are you kidding me. What does Elon have to do to convince y'all they are a Top 5 team that will contend for a national title?

It doesn;t matter, we just need to win. Polls are meaningless.

[LAWdiddy]

It doesn;t matter, we just need to win. Polls are meaningless.

They aren't though. I would prefer if Elon had homefield advantage until chatt but it wont b that way b/c of the polls

[JSU02]

He probably would have been better by saying "could very easily beat" instead of "would beat."

I could easily see NAU beating these teams:


14. Jacksonville St. 992


Heck, even in the Big Sky, I'd say NAU is playing better than anyone but Montana.

xnonox You clearly haven't seen Jax State play.

[uofmman1122]

xnonox You clearly haven't seen Jax State play.You clearly haven't seen NAU play. xcoffeex xlolx

[CamelCityAppFan]

is this a poll based on previous success or lack thereof? my understanding is that we are ranking this years' teams.

Frankly, it's a combination of both. The majority of the voters on this poll (I am not one) have a lot of knowledge and understanding of FCS football. Past experiences will apply, for better or worse.

Do you honestly think Elon should be ranked higher than any of the 7 teams above it?

Applachian is ranked a bit too high at the moment, but history tells us a sluggish start for them does not mean a complete meltdown. Last year ASU started 2-2, and then didn't lose again until the playoffs.

Like I said, Elon this week is possibly ranked as high as it ever has been on AGS, and that's not good enough for you? You think that's a lack of respect?

You should be pleased with the steady rise in rankings, not griping about respect. xnonox

[WrenFGun]

NAU not in the poll shows this to be a complete JOKE. Pathetic voting.

We have had numerous quarrels over the years, but for once, I absolutely agree. With the parity and performance over the last few weeks, NAU is a clear top 25 team, IMO.

[soccerguy315]

Furman and Citadel are tough teams. They survived Furman and kicked the turd out of The Citadel. They've proven to have the best defense bar none in the FCS and their offense isnt bad either. but yeah you guys are right they suck

who has Furman beat that is good?
who has the Citadel beat that is good?

which of the following teams: Richmond, UNI, UNH, Montana, SIU, Nova, W&M do you think Elon is better than, and why?

[WrenFGun]

I don't fault voters too much this week. I had an impossible time filling out my poll as there aren't many good teams right now. FWIW, I saw so few teams worth voting for that CCSU was my #25.

[OhioHen]

More non-East Coast Bias:

NAU made my top 25 this week.

[MacThor]

Exactly. To move Elon into the top five you have to drop UNI, Montana and/or two of the four CAA teams that won their FBS games (and whose only losses are to other top 7 CAA teams).

Hey, last year Elon was ranked ahead of UR until the end of the season even though they lost head-to-head, at home.

[89Hen]

More non-East Coast Bias:

NAU made my top 25 this week.
This is getting awfully fishy. Seems like there are at least a dozen that have them in their ballots. xeyebrowx

[Ivytalk]

NAU not in the poll shows this to be a complete JOKE. Pathetic voting.


FWIW (which is not much), they were in mine.


Mine too. I had four from the BSC, so don't go all ECB on me.

I sense a conspiracy! I had NAU at #23.xeyebrowxxeyebrowxxeyebrowx

[Ivytalk]

This is getting awfully fishy. Seems like there are at least a dozen that have them in their ballots. xeyebrowx

RE-COUNT!! DIMPLED CHADS!! RE-COUNT!!!xthumbsupx

[Ivytalk]

Really?

I find myself asking the exact opposite question - what would make anyone vote for Harvard at all?

You just can't help yourself, can you??xcoolxxrolleyesxxnonox

[danefan]

You just can't help yourself, can you??xcoolxxrolleyesxxnonox

I didn't bring it up. xrolleyesx

[Ivytalk]

I didn't bring it up. xrolleyesx

No, but you always have the same Pavlovian response whwnever Harvard is mentioned.xsmhx It's as predictable as the dawn.

[WestCoastAggie]

RE-COUNT!! DIMPLED CHADS!! RE-COUNT!!!xthumbsupx

No more recounts! (In my best G. Doubya impression) xlolx

[jstclmet]

NA Who???? I almost voted for them, but went with my ECB, and voted for Delaware @ #25 instead.xlolx

[aggiemba]

Just more East Coast bias.

Evidence: Where the hell is UC Davis? xmadx

[401ks]

Where the hell is UC Davis? xmadx

In Davis, California?

:o

[GannonFan]

I had NAU in my top 25 - it's those darn West Coast people that are suddenly anti-NAU!!!

[GannonFan]

NA Who???? I almost voted for them, but went with my ECB, and voted for Delaware @ #25 instead.xlolx

Wow, ranking a team who you picked would only win 3 games all this year (and has already beaten that prediction) - was it a tough ballot for you to hit "confirm"? xlolx

[ElonPride]

You should be pleased with the steady rise in rankings, not griping about respect. xnonox

I think most Elon fans are very pleased about the rise of the Phoenix and how weel they are playing. Take it easy on this kid, he's new to all this as are most Elon fans!xthumbsupx

[GannonFan]

I think most Elon fans are very pleased about the rise of the Phoenix and how weel they are playing. Take it easy on this kid, he's new to all this as are most Elon fans!xthumbsupx

If Elon keeps winning, and teams ahead of them lose, they'll move up. Hard to see them leapfrogging teams with the same records at this time.

Regardless, though, Elon will get their chance to prove things come playoff time. And if Elon wins the SoCon, they'll get a top 4 seed - whether they get a top 2 seed is dependent on other teams losing, but it's certainly possible.

[MacThor]

If Elon keeps winning, and teams ahead of them lose, they'll move up. Hard to see them leapfrogging teams with the same records at this time.

Regardless, though, Elon will get their chance to prove things come playoff time. And if Elon wins the SoCon, they'll get a top 4 seed - whether they get a top 2 seed is dependent on other teams losing, but it's certainly possible.

If UR, UNH, UNI and Montana run the table (a big IF) I think the selection committee will be hard-pressed not to seed those four, even the loser of the CAA coin flip.

[WileECoyote06]

Two things made this week's poll voting difficult.

1) The number of losses that occurred by ranked teams. SC State, Jacksonville State, and SD State probably benefitted tremendously from those mid-tier losses; thus their ascension into the top-15. I personally think SC State and Jax State are about right and are better than people wish to give them credit for. . .

2) Your philosophy about ranking; some I'm sure rank who they think the best 25 teams are; while others rank the 25 most successful seasons so far.

[GannonFan]

If UR, UNH, UNI and Montana run the table (a big IF) I think the selection committee will be hard-pressed not to seed those four, even the loser of the CAA coin flip.

Actually, you're kinda right there. That Wake Forest loss isn't going to look better than wins over Ball St or Duke. UNH would have wins too against nova and W&M (and UMass, although they're overrated). Richmond would have wins over W&M, nova, UD, JMU, and UMass. If Elon did get a top 4 seed, it would have to be over UNH, and that looks like a stretch - only way they'd get it is if the committee doesn't want to give the CAA two seeds.

[Squealofthepig]

If UR, UNH, UNI and Montana run the table (a big IF) I think the selection committee will be hard-pressed not to seed those four, even the loser of the CAA coin flip.

Yeah. And not just because of records, winning histories and conferences - all four also have a very solid history of turning in strong performances at the turnstiles when hosting playoff games. Like it or not, that still factors in. If Elon keeps it up, they should be able to get at least one home game, which can help in subsequent years.

[malibudude]

In Davis, California?

:o


Why are you concerned with FCS polls? I thought Davis was moving up to the academically challenged WAC?

[89Hen]

Just more East Coast bias.

Evidence: Where the hell is UC Davis? xmadx
Still in overtime against a new I-AA. xcoffeex

[soccerguy315]

Just more East Coast bias.

Evidence: Where the hell is UC Davis? xmadx

UC Davis? The one that is 2-3 with only 1 Division I win? Western Oregon is DII, right? correct me if I'm wrong.

Why should a team that is 2-3 with 1 Division I win be ranked?

[MacThor]

Actually, you're kinda right there. That Wake Forest loss isn't going to look better than wins over Ball St or Duke. UNH would have wins too against nova and W&M (and UMass, although they're overrated). Richmond would have wins over W&M, nova, UD, JMU, and UMass. If Elon did get a top 4 seed, it would have to be over UNH, and that looks like a stretch - only way they'd get it is if the committee doesn't want to give the CAA two seeds.

I think the committee seeded both UNI and SIU in 2007, so there's no rule against it.

[jstclmet]

Wow, ranking a team who you picked would only win 3 games all this year (and has already beaten that prediction) - was it a tough ballot for you to hit "confirm"? xlolx

Easy there GF. If memory serves, UD won 4 last year (going 4 - 8, riiight???). I'm pretty sure I gave UD the credit that they would win at least 4, and Devlin would add 1 maybe 2 W's. The gimme's were WC, DSU, TU, HU. The Unk's were Maine & UMass.

Now you've beaten Maine & UMass which should be the tougher games, but you still got business to take care of against TU & HU.

Hey, ya might even get lucky against JMU when ya see'em. If JMU loses to Nova this week, you can stick a fork in em. By the time they come to Newark, that team's spirit will be broken.

Any CAA team with an above .500 record is top 25 poll worthy.

[GoAgs72]

Okay, some West Coast bias finally. I had Northern Arizona at 20. I also had SFA at 18. If UC Davis can beat Cal Poly they will show up in the polls - if they lose they are an also-ran.

[GeauxLions94]

I don't fault voters too much this week. I had an impossible time filling out my poll as there aren't many good teams right now. FWIW, I saw so few teams worth voting for that CCSU was my #25.

xflaggedx

I had an interesting week as well with so many ranked teams losing, but CCSU??? xchinscratchx There had to be at least one CAA, Southern, Southland, MVFC, Big Sky team up for consideration before CCSU (whose only loss was to W&M, but has beaten 1-4 Lehigh, 2-2 Columbia, 1-4 Sacred Heart and 0-6 Robert Morris).

[LAWdiddy]

We lost to Wake Forest, big deal. Richmond beat Duke, yes, good win for them, but Florida would beat Duke by 85. Wake Forest, in my opinion, is a much better team than Duke.

[WileECoyote06]

We lost to Wake Forest, big deal. Richmond beat Duke, yes, good win for them, but Florida would beat Duke by 85. Wake Forest, in my opinion, is a much better team than Duke.

I wouldn't say that Wake is that much better than Duke. Especially comparing results against NC State. We'll find out later in the year. And Florida would not beat Duke by 85. Maybe Charleston Southern, but not Duke. That's a fisherman's tale.

[JMUNJ08]

We lost to Wake Forest, big deal. Richmond beat Duke, yes, good win for them, but Florida would beat Duke by 85. Wake Forest, in my opinion, is a much better team than Duke.

The only team that sticks out in the ACC is VT. The rest show up a week and then don't the next (UVA, Maryland, Florida St. etc.). Florida would kill 11 of the 12 ACC teams right now. As far as I see it, UR had the 'W' and you guys the 'L' and neither was against VT. This year with many of the top FCS teams beating a FBS team can make the difference in the polls.

[JMUNJ08]

Lehigh won this week and didn't get in the top 25? xlolx

What does it take nowadays?

[Go...gate]

xlolxxlolxxlolx

Some teams are being ranked based on what they did in 2003.

Maybe you should play us and find out how much we have declined.

[KiddBrewer]

is this a poll based on previous success or lack thereof? my understanding is that we are ranking this years' teams.

naive much? xcoffeex

[KiddBrewer]

I think most Elon fans are very pleased about the rise of the Phoenix and how weel they are playing. Take it easy on this kid, he's new to all this as are most Elon fans!xthumbsupx

did you mean to do that, or just a clever coincidence? xnodx

[Native]

NAU not in the poll shows this to be a complete JOKE. Pathetic voting.

I feel your pain, dbjon! Last week, before the Northern Arizona victory over Montana State, the Lumberjacks came in at 26th on Gridiron Power Index.

After convincingly beating the Bobcats in Bozeman this past weekend, Sagarin already has NAU 13th among all FCS teams, so I am sure the jacks will jump in the GPI this week, and the AGS voters will eventually catch up if you keep winning.

Still plenty of games remaining!

[mcveyrl]

We lost to Wake Forest, big deal. Richmond beat Duke, yes, good win for them, but Florida would beat Duke by 85. Wake Forest, in my opinion, is a much better team than Duke.

If you beat Wake Forest that would matter. As it is, comparing losses to wins is apples and oranges.

BTW, Duke hung 49 on NC State last weekend and almost beat Va. Tech.

[JMUNJ08]

I think the past does play a part in the rankings. Elon, Furman and NAU all have disappointed bandwagon followers the last few years. Each team looked good until big games at the end of the season did them in. That sticks with a voter and makes them want to see more before getting back on.

You don't take back a significat other after they lie/cheat on you without a little reassurance first right????

IMO...as I don't vote...

[89Hen]

I think the past does play a part in the rankings.
xnodx At the start of the season 100% of the vote is on history and what they have returning. 0% is based on this year's accomplishment. As the games are played, they move inversely until by maybe week 8 or 9 it's 0-100% the other way.

[CamelCityAppFan]

xnodx At the start of the season 100% of the vote is on history and what they have returning. 0% is based on this year's accomplishment. As the games are played, they move inversely until by maybe week 8 or 9 it's 0-100% the other way.

I think that's just about right. xthumbsupx

[CamelCityAppFan]

We lost to Wake Forest, big deal. Undefeated defending National Champion Richmond beat Duke, yes, good win for them, but Florida would beat Duke by 85. Wake Forest, in my opinion, is a much better team than Duke.

There, fixed it for ya.

You aren't really picking good arguments for the whole "we don't get no respect" routine. xwhistlex

[JMUNJ08]

xnodx At the start of the season 100% of the vote is on history and what they have returning. 0% is based on this year's accomplishment. As the games are played, they move inversely until by maybe week 8 or 9 it's 0-100% the other way.

xthumbsupx So we are at about the 50% history 50% performance stand point. Thats why a 2-3 JMU team is ranked better than 6-0 Colgate.

[MacThor]

We lost to Wake Forest, big deal. Richmond beat Duke, yes, good win for them, but Florida would beat Duke by 85. Wake Forest, in my opinion, is a much better team than Duke.

So you'd rank Elon over Richmond. Who else?

[soccerguy315]

We lost to Wake Forest, big deal. Richmond beat Duke, yes, good win for them, but Florida would beat Duke by 85. Wake Forest, in my opinion, is a much better team than Duke.

So you would rank Elon ahead of Richmond because Elon lost to Wake Forest and Richmond beat Duke? And since Richmond is #1, you would rank Elon ahead of all the other teams as well?

[JMUNJ08]

We are now beating a dead horse. Please see above for why Richmond is better than Elon right now and that the arguement in favor is invalid.xrulesx

[PhoenixMan]

What does Elon have to do to get respect. Number 8? Are you kidding me. What does Elon have to do to convince y'all they are a Top 5 team that will contend for a national title?

I think Elon is a top 5 team also, but 8 is fair for now. Patience my Phoenix friend, they will keep climbingxthumbsupx

[LAWdiddy]

I'm not saying we should be ahead of Richmond. Richmond is undefeated and the national champs. im just saying florida woudl beat duke by 85

[theasushow]

Elon has never been to the playoffs, never won the SoCon. 8th is possibly the highest they've ever been ranked on AGS. They've been steadily moving up in polls. Respect is earned through accomplishment, not because fans demand it. If Elon keeps winning, ranking will continue to rise. But there are still plenty of conference games left.

not saying that APP deserves to be ranked higher, but they have won 3 in a row and havent moved up a single spot. i guess the pollsters just dont like these "ugly wins". like I said i dont really think the ranking is unfair as i would be the first to admit app hasnt played well thus far, but its rare to win 3 straight games and not move up ANY.

[CamelCityAppFan]

not saying that APP deserves to be ranked higher, but they have won 3 in a row and havent moved up a single spot. i guess the pollsters just dont like these "ugly wins". like I said i dont really think the ranking is unfair as i would be the first to admit app hasnt played well thus far, but its rare to win 3 straight games and not move up ANY.

Not to concerned about it, teams above have to lose to make room. If App takes care of its business, these things will sort themselves out. xthumbsupx

[Native]

Based on this I would say the most overrated team is SC State. I think they should be outside of the top 15. Colgate could qualify as well. They should be no higher than 23 or 24, at best. The most underrated is NAU for not being in the top 25 but SFA is lower than I thought too.

EKU should fall out and put NAU at #21 and Colgate at #25 with SFA a few spots higher and then I would be all for this.


Yup! xthumbsupx

[KiddBrewer]

Not to concerned about it, teams above have to lose to make room. If App takes care of its business, these things will sort themselves out. xthumbsupx

yea, im not complaining a bit about being in the top 10, personallyxcoffeex

(not saying you were complaining 'theasushow')

[UMass922]

This is getting awfully fishy. Seems like there are at least a dozen that have them in their ballots. xeyebrowx

Add me to the list. I had NAU in at #19.

[soccerguy315]

not saying that APP deserves to be ranked higher, but they have won 3 in a row and havent moved up a single spot. i guess the pollsters just dont like these "ugly wins". like I said i dont really think the ranking is unfair as i would be the first to admit app hasnt played well thus far, but its rare to win 3 straight games and not move up ANY.

same with Richmond ;)

[tractorapp]

What does Elon have to do to get respect. Number 8? Are you kidding me. What does Elon have to do to convince y'all they are a Top 5 team that will contend for a national title?

Beat App and I will give Elon respect.

[VT Wildcat Fan53]

# 5 plays at #2 this weekend...gonna be a BATTLE!

3rd week in a row for #2 vs #5. Only difference is #2 is at home this time.

[Houndawg]

I'm not saying we should be ahead of Richmond. Richmond is undefeated and the national champs. im just saying florida woudl beat duke by 85

So who in the current top 5 is elon better than? xeyebrowx

[lknspider]

I'm not saying we should be ahead of Richmond. Richmond is undefeated and the national champs. im just saying florida woudl beat duke by 85

Elon is one dimensional and over rated. If they played JMU, they would be 12 point underdogs. I will take Appy right now straight up! Good luck!

[IaaScribe]

I'm not saying we should be ahead of Richmond. Richmond is undefeated and the national champs. im just saying florida woudl beat duke by 85

Ridiculous. Duke played well against a Top-5 Virginia Tech team and was in that game in the fourth quarter and the Devils just waxed North Carolina State on the road. Florida would not beat Duke by 85. Goodness.

[LAWdiddy]

Elon is one dimensional and over rated. If they played JMU, they would be 12 point underdogs. I will take Appy right now straight up! Good luck!

Yes, we're one dimensional, huh? Look at our rushing stats against The citadel and tell me we're one dimensional. Look at our QB-WR combo. Look at our best defense in the country. But yes, we're one dimensional and overrated.

[WileECoyote06]

Ridiculous. Duke played well against a Top-5 Virginia Tech team and was in that game in the fourth quarter and the Devils just waxed North Carolina State on the road. Florida would not beat Duke by 85. Goodness.

repeat

I wouldn't say that Wake is that much better than Duke. Especially comparing results against NC State. We'll find out later in the year. And Florida would not beat Duke by 85. Maybe Charleston Southern, but not Duke. That's a fisherman's tale.


I don't know what dude/lady is talking about.

[R3TRO]

Yes, we're one dimensional, huh? Look at our rushing stats against The citadel and tell me we're one dimensional. Look at our QB-WR combo. Look at our best defense in the country. But yes, we're one dimensional and overrated.

Boy, you better hope that Elon goes undefeated and wins the NC because all this ranting will make you look real stupid if your team slips up and they don't come out ready to play

[LAWdiddy]

im aware of that. i just hate people talking **** about elon who have never seen them play

[CamelCityAppFan]

You are complaining that the poll has Elon at 8, but you still haven't said which teams 1-7 Elon should be ahead of. I'll bet you haven't seen any of those teams play.

[LAWdiddy]

I think on a given day Elon can b as good as any team in the country

[CamelCityAppFan]

xlolx That avoids the question, doesn't it? I think on a given day Appalachian can be as good as any team in the country, but I certainly don't think that they should be ranked any higher than they are right now.

[WileECoyote06]

im aware of that. i just hate people talking **** about elon who have never seen them play

Who has been talking _____ about Elon? You got a quote?

[DSUrocks07]

I think on a given day (insert your team here) can b as good as any team in the country

xlolx

well thats proof enough for me. Elon gets my vote. xsmiley_wix

[Houndawg]

Yes, we're one dimensional, huh? Look at our rushing stats against The citadel and tell me we're one dimensional. Look at our QB-WR combo. Look at our best defense in the country. But yes, we're one dimensional and overrated.

Well, you can't be a top 5 team then. But you already know that or you wouldn't keep ignoring those who ask you which top 5 teams Elon is better than. Simple.xnodx

[89Hen]

I think on a given day Elon can b as good as any team in the country
xlolx One of the most weak backpedalling statements I've ever seen here.

[phoenix3]

Fwiw, So far Elon has done exactly what they were expected to do & nothing more. I`m proud we`re in the top 10 but that`s all. Do we deserve to be there, I think we do. Time will tell. Especially the Nov. 14 game results.

Not to say I`m not confident in OUR team, I`m just willing to let the team do the talking, not a bunch of pollsters.

[PhoenixMan]

Elon is one dimensional and over rated. If they played JMU, they would be 12 point underdogs. I will take Appy right now straight up! Good luck!

I'm not sure how you see them as one dimensional. They are racking up yards on the ground and through the air. Not to mention the defense is ranked #1 in the country. That being said....I have to agree with another poster.......until we beat Appy we don't deserve but so much respect.

[ngineer]

Fwiw, So far Elon has done exactly what they were expected to do & nothing more. I`m proud we`re in the top 10 but that`s all. Do we deserve to be there, I think we do. Time will tell. Especially the Nov. 14 game results.

Not to say I`m not confident in OUR team, I`m just willing to let the team do the talking, not a bunch of pollsters.

And that's the way it should be. xthumbsupx

[BigHouseClosedEnd]

Fwiw, So far Elon has done exactly what they were expected to do & nothing more. I`m proud we`re in the top 10 but that`s all. Do we deserve to be there, I think we do. Time will tell. Especially the Nov. 14 game results.

Not to say I`m not confident in OUR team, I`m just willing to let the team do the talking, not a bunch of pollsters.

You don't think Elon was expected to play even a competitive ballgame at Wake? xeyebrowx

[PhoenixSupreme]

I personally like Elon to be ranked a little lower than they probably want to be ranked. It seems like Elon plays worse when they have a really high ranking go to their head. The #4 vs #5 match with Richmond last season and the #3 vs #4 match with Wofford last season seemed to have created overinflated ambitions in the fans and players at the time. Nevertheless, we got beat bad in both games, and players and fans alike felt deflated. So I pretty much like having a lower ranking than desired so the expectations and egos occurred from having a higher ranking are less likely to happen.

[lknspider]

Elon does not have a quality, top shelf win. If you don't believe this, just analyze the schedule of each opponent that Elon has played. There is not a quality win by even one of those opponents! In fact the losses are pitiful. Don't try to claim success based on reputations or records from the past. What appears to be developing is the overall weakness of the Southern Conference. I predict that Appy gets busy and beats the pants off their remaining opponents and restores order.

[LAWdiddy]

why do u think app could beat us at our place?

[Reign of Terrier]

why do u think app could beat us at our place?

because Elon has NEVER beaten App

another history lesson brought to you by Youngterrierxpeacex

[PhoenixSupreme]

because Elon has NEVER beaten App

another history lesson brought to you by Youngterrierxpeacex

Yeah, that was kind of an easy one for you to handle YT

[Reign of Terrier]

Yeah, that was kind of an easy one for you to handle YT

kinda sucks when I know your history better than your fans:D

[PhoenixSupreme]

kinda sucks when I know your history better than your fans:D

hey somepeople only have a 6-month memory :D

[Reign of Terrier]

hey somepeople only have a 6-month memory :D

it's kind of up there with the "I don't care what we've done in the Socon in 35 years"

xeyebrowxxoopsx:D