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unipanthers8907
September 16th, 2009, 11:08 AM
If you were allowed to vote in a top 10 poll, how would you rank the teams so far?

1. Richmond
2. Northern Iowa
3. Villanova
4. William & Mary
5. New Hampshire
6. Montana
7. McNeese State
8. James Madison
9. Elon
10. (tie) Southern Illinois
10. (tie) Appalachian State

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Gil Dobie
September 16th, 2009, 11:19 AM
1. Richmond
2. Villanova
3. William & Mary
4. Montana
5. New Hampshire
6. Cal Poly
7. South Dakota St.
8. Elon
9. Wofford
10. Southern Illinois

Native
September 16th, 2009, 11:34 AM
Lots of great choices this year at this point in the season!

1. Richmond
2. William & Mary
3. Northern Iowa
4. Villanova
5. New Hampshire
6. McNeese State
7. James Madison
8. Elon
9. Southern Illinois
10. Cal Poly

joecooll6
September 16th, 2009, 11:40 AM
1. Richmond
2. Villanova
3. William & Mary
4. Montana
5. New Hampshire
6. Cal Poly
7. South Dakota St.
8. Elon
9. Wofford
10. Southern Illinois

What has SIU done that we havent?

GSUhooligan
September 16th, 2009, 12:18 PM
1. Villanova
2. Richmond
3. Montana
4. Northern Iowa
5. William & Mary
6. Appalachian St.
7. Southern Illinois
8. James Madison
9. Weber St.
10. New Hampshire

ASUG8
September 16th, 2009, 12:21 PM
1. Villanova
2. Richmond
3. Montana
4. Northern Iowa
5. William & Mary
6. Appalachian St.
7. Southern Illinois
8. James Madison
9. Weber St.
10. New Hampshire


I appreciate the ranking, but there are better current teams than #6 right now including the folks who just beat us.

GSUhooligan
September 16th, 2009, 12:33 PM
I appreciate the ranking, but there are better current teams than #6 right now including the folks who just beat us.

Current events only effect my ranking so much*. With Armanti healthy, I don't see App losing another game this year (did I just say that :pumpuke:). I pretty much rank as I see them finishing unless something happens that makes me change my opinion. Same reason I still have Weber in the top 10. I know I'll get alot of flack, but its what I believe.


* I realized I may need to clarify this statement. McNeese is a perfect example. Had I taken a one game perspective, McNeese would have fell out of my poll after their performance against Henderson St. but they stayed in the high teens for me b/c I wanted to see a larger sample size. Similarly, they beat an ASU team with a rusty Armanti, but it was at the Rock. Do I skyrocket them up the poll? No. What happens if they lay an egg against Savannah St? I don't like playing top 25 bungee jumping. Over the course of the season consistantcy will be rewarded or penalized accordingly.

ValleyChamp
September 16th, 2009, 12:37 PM
1. Richmond
2. UNI
3. Nova
4. W & M
5. Montana
6. McNeese
7. James Madison
8. App St.
9. SIU
10. New Hampshire.

ValleyChamp
September 16th, 2009, 12:38 PM
1. Richmond
2. Villanova
3. William & Mary
4. Montana
5. New Hampshire
6. Cal Poly
7. South Dakota St.
8. Elon
9. Wofford
10. Southern Illinois

You forgot to put NDSU in there.xcoffeex

RabidRabbit
September 16th, 2009, 12:43 PM
1. Villanova
2. Northern Iowa
3. Richmond
4. William & Mary
5. James Madison
6. New Hampshire
7. Southern Illinois
8. Montana
9. Elon
10. South Dakota St.

McNeese #11
App St. #12

McNeese needs to knock off Tulane to get into the top 10, and ASU needs to start winning, and no more losses.

The CAA South, with all their FBS wins are again setting up to be the one with multiple 2nd round play-off games. JMU may be more a 9/10 than a 5/6. SIU has the horrid D-II game, that shouldn't be part of the schedule. Part of the reason McNeese is looking outside top 10.

SDSU has the ONE GAME on the resume, and next challenging game should be Cal Poly on 10/3. Jacks need to have a lot on "back up" minutes in the next two games. The 4th qtr vs GSU was a lot of back ups.

Elon is generally untested.

GOKATS
September 16th, 2009, 12:43 PM
1. Richmond
2. Northern Iowa
3. Villanova
4. Appalachian St.
5. Southern Illinois
6. New Hampshire
7. James Madison
8. William & Mary
9. Weber St.
10. Cal Poly

ChickenMan
September 16th, 2009, 12:50 PM
1 - Richmond
2 - UNI
3 - Montana
4 - Villanova
5 - UNH
6 - W&M
7 - Elon
8 - JMU
9 - South Dakota St
10 - McNeese St

PantherRob82
September 16th, 2009, 12:53 PM
1. Richmond
2. Villanova
3. William & Mary
4. Montana
5. New Hampshire
6. Cal Poly
7. South Dakota St.
8. Elon
9. Wofford
10. Southern Illinois

Wow. Rough. UNI isn't even Top 10 in your mind?

89Hen
September 16th, 2009, 12:55 PM
This was my top 10 in my ballot

1. Richmond
2. Villanova
3. Northern Iowa
4. Montana
5. Weber St.
6. Wofford
7. Southern Illinois
8. James Madison
9. South Dakota St.
10. Elon

McNeese72
September 16th, 2009, 12:57 PM
1. Villanova
2. Northern Iowa
3. Richmond
4. William & Mary
5. James Madison
6. New Hampshire
7. Southern Illinois
8. Montana
9. Elon
10. South Dakota St.

McNeese #11
App St. #12

McNeese needs to knock off Tulane to get into the top 10, and ASU needs to start winning, and no more losses.



Good post! If we win the next two games, I'd cautiously say we belong in the Top Ten but not just yet.

Doc

grizband
September 16th, 2009, 01:00 PM
1. Richmond
2. Northern Iowa
3. Villanova
4. Appalachian St.
5. Southern Illinois
6. New Hampshire
7. James Madison
8. William & Mary
9. Weber St.
10. Cal Poly
Cal Poly over the Griz, huh? xwhistlex

uofmman1122
September 16th, 2009, 01:28 PM
1. Villanova
2. Northern Iowa
3. Richmond
4. William & Mary
5. Weber St.
6. Southern Illinois
7. New Hampshire
8. James Madison
9. Montana
10. Elon

That was on my ballot. For all I know, half these teams could drop off.

McNeese75
September 16th, 2009, 01:42 PM
1. Villanova
2. Northern Iowa
3. Richmond
4. William & Mary
5. James Madison
6. New Hampshire
7. Southern Illinois
8. Montana
9. Elon
10. South Dakota St.

McNeese #11
App St. #12

McNeese needs to knock off Tulane to get into the top 10, and ASU needs to start winning, and no more losses.

The CAA South, with all their FBS wins are again setting up to be the one with multiple 2nd round play-off games. JMU may be more a 9/10 than a 5/6. SIU has the horrid D-II game, that shouldn't be part of the schedule. Part of the reason McNeese is looking outside top 10.

SDSU has the ONE GAME on the resume, and next challenging game should be Cal Poly on 10/3. Jacks need to have a lot on "back up" minutes in the next two games. The 4th qtr vs GSU was a lot of back ups.

Elon is generally untested.

Not sure how SDSU gets in front of McNeese after one game but one opinoin is as good as another.

GOKATS
September 16th, 2009, 01:45 PM
Cal Poly over the Griz, huh? xwhistlex

I just copied the top 10 off my Monday ballot, griz were #11.

PhoenixMan
September 16th, 2009, 01:51 PM
I appreciate the ranking, but there are better current teams than #6 right now including the folks who just beat us.

Elon doesn't get in your Top 10? xsmhx Oh well, they have choked the last 2 years, but they are pretty good right now. Good enough for the top 10.
Here's my top 10
1. Richmond
2. N. Iowa
3. JMU
4. Elon
5. Villanova
6. App St.
7. Montana
8. William & Mary
9. Southern Ill.
10. New Hampshire

89Hen
September 16th, 2009, 01:51 PM
Not sure how SDSU gets in front of McNeese after one game but one opinoin is as good as another.
My guess is they were a lot of spots in front of McNeese before last week. I didn't have McNeese ranked prior to last week but had SDSU in the top 15. McNeese moved up more in my poll than SDSU but are still a couple spots behind. xpeacex

sharkeycox
September 16th, 2009, 01:59 PM
My guess is they were a lot of spots in front of McNeese before last week. I didn't have McNeese ranked prior to last week but had SDSU in the top 15. McNeese moved up more in my poll than SDSU but are still a couple spots behind. xpeacex

Must still be bitter about"97 xlolx

PantherRob82
September 16th, 2009, 02:00 PM
1. Richmond
2. N. Iowa
3. JMU
4. Elon
5. Villanova
6. App St.
7. Montana
8. William & Mary
9. Southern Ill.
10. New Hampshire

Have you watched the other teams? Elon at 4 after 2 weak opponents seems a little high.

89Hen
September 16th, 2009, 02:03 PM
Must still be bitter about"97 xlolx
Will always be. :p

89Hen
September 16th, 2009, 02:04 PM
Here's my top 10
4. Elon
First you talk erroneously about racism, then you make up figures on gas prices, now you have Elon at 4. xlolx xlolx xlolx

purplepeopleeaterv2
September 16th, 2009, 02:05 PM
First you talk erroneously about racism, then you make up figures on gas prices, now you have Elon at 4. xlolx xlolx xlolx

He can't be all that crazy look who he has at #3 xthumbsupx

PhoenixMan
September 16th, 2009, 02:11 PM
First you talk erroneously about racism, then you make up figures on gas prices, now you have Elon at 4. xlolx xlolx xlolx

Listen Henny...I don't make up anything, it's just your inability to deal with facts or at least form an opinion based any credible data that creates problems. xrulesx
A little data for you.....Elon at 4 may look a little lofty, and they have played two easy teams. However, they lead the nation in total offense and total defense, on any level. So, I like them at #4. I guess we'll really see after Sat. at Wake Forest.

89Hen
September 16th, 2009, 02:12 PM
Listen Henny...I don't make up anything, it's just your inability to deal with facts or at least form an opinion based any credible data that creates problems. xrulesx
A little data for you.....Elon at 4 may look a little lofty, and they have played two easy teams. However, they lead the nation in total offense and total defense, on any level. So, I like them at #4. I guess we'll really see after Sat. at Wake Forest.
xlolx You wouldn't know a fact if it jumped up and bit you in the arse.


So, are you predicting an Elon win on Saturday?

PhoenixMan
September 16th, 2009, 02:19 PM
xlolx You wouldn't know a fact if it jumped up and bit you in the arse.


So, are you predicting an Elon win on Saturday?

as you know, I can get a little carried away.....a win? I can't go that far, but I think they will keep it close, and have a chance to win if they can create some turnovers. Either way, I'll be in 50 yd. line seats in the middle of the Demon Deacon club section, screaming like a maniac. If someone tries to kick my arse, you gonna help me out?xcoolx

wideright82
September 16th, 2009, 02:20 PM
Listen Henny...I don't make up anything, it's just your inability to deal with facts or at least form an opinion based any credible data that creates problems. xrulesx
A little data for you.....Elon at 4 may look a little lofty, and they have played two easy teams. However, they lead the nation in total offense and total defense, on any level. So, I like them at #4. I guess we'll really see after Sat. at Wake Forest.


I'll give you a top 10, but ranking them above Nova is laughable to me.

89Hen
September 16th, 2009, 02:21 PM
If someone tries to kick my arse, you gonna help me out?xcoolx
I got your back. Differences aside, I will always pull for the I-AA (except Furman this week). xthumbsupx

wideright82
September 16th, 2009, 02:23 PM
I'll give you a top 10, but ranking them above Nova is laughable to me.


Same with Wilma & Mary

ElonPride
September 16th, 2009, 02:28 PM
Have you watched the other teams? Elon at 4 after 2 weak opponents seems a little high.

Agreed. Especially after making it up to #3 last year, then having the season collapse xnonono2x

Hopefully we'll keep it close with Wake.

PhoenixMan
September 16th, 2009, 02:32 PM
I got your back. Differences aside, I will always pull for the I-AA (except Furman this week). xthumbsupx

I always pull for 1AA also, but I must admit, it has gotten harder to pull for App st. against anyone. Although, I dislike ECU even more, so App. had my support week one.

PhoenixMan
September 16th, 2009, 02:50 PM
Same with Wilma & Mary

I understand your point....however, I have been going to Elon football games since 1970. And even though we did win back to back National Championships in NAIA (1980 and 1981) there have been some lean times, especially since joining the SOCON. So, to cut through the BS.......like most long time Elon fans, I'm just happy to see us in anyone's TOP 10xthumbsupx

Gil Dobie
September 16th, 2009, 03:08 PM
You forgot to put NDSU in there.xcoffeex

Beat Iowa and UNI is in my top 10 xoopsx

Gil Dobie
September 16th, 2009, 03:10 PM
What has SIU done that we havent?

Nothing really, UNI is right behind SIU, IMO xpeacex

UNIFanSince1983
September 16th, 2009, 04:36 PM
Both SIU and SDSU have only played one game. SIU is currently 0-1 how can they be ahead of us? Their one loss is to a lesser opponent, and by more points than our 1 loss.

SDSU is looking impressive, but GSU squeaked by Albany so is that a quality win? I know our win isn't against a quality team, but it was by 59 points. Not many teams are winning by that much against D2 teams, and this is a FCS team we did it to. Not the quality of team SDSU beat by 38, but is GSU that quality of a team. So far I have to say they aren't. I can't say we are better than SDSU yet, but I can say if we aren't better we are right next to them. To me Gil it seems you are having a tough time dealing with UNI being so good. You already have a little brother syndrome and you have only been in the conference 1 year.

If you would have seen us play at all this year you would at least have us at number 10. Notice everyone else on here has us at least in the top 10, and most have us in the top 5.

That being said here goes my shot at a top 10
1. Richmond
2. Villanova
3. UNI
4. Montana
5. William and Mary
6. SIU
7. JMU
8. New Hampshire
9. McNeese St.
10. South Dakota State

ElonPride
September 16th, 2009, 04:37 PM
I understand your point....however, I have been going to Elon football games since 1970. And even though we did win back to back National Championships in NAIA (1980 and 1981) there have been some lean times, especially since joining the SOCON. So, to cut through the BS.......like most long time Elon fans, I'm just happy to see us in anyone's TOP 10xthumbsupx

Isn't that the truth!

93henfan
September 16th, 2009, 04:40 PM
Week 2
Approved
1. Villanova
2. Richmond
3. Northern Iowa
4. William & Mary
5. Montana
6. Elon
7. New Hampshire
8. James Madison
9. Cal Poly
10. McNeese St.

joecooll6
September 16th, 2009, 05:28 PM
Nothing really, UNI is right behind SIU, IMO xpeacex

So we go to the national semifinals last year, get a 3 seed, finish with a 12-3 record, start the year losing to a Big 10 team by 1 point and blow out an FCS team 66-7 and that isnt good enough to be in the Top Ten?

Seems like other factors may be at play here.

I'm not saying UNI is definately going to be a Top 10 team at the end of the year, but it makes no sense not to have us in now, IMO.

Gil Dobie
September 16th, 2009, 05:33 PM
So we go to the national semifinals last year, get a 3 seed, finish with a 12-3 record, start the year losing to a Big 10 team by 1 point and blow out an FCS team 66-7 and that isnt good enough to be in the Top Ten?

Seems like other factors may be at play here.

I'm not saying UNI is definately going to be a Top 10 team at the end of the year, but it makes no sense not to have us in now, IMO.

SDSU is the factor at play, GSU>USD, and it's just my opinion, which is neither right or wrong, but an opinion.

WSBE
September 16th, 2009, 05:46 PM
I am shocked that no one has ranked UNI #1. They outplayed & should have beaten #22 Iowa in front of 71k fans. Iowa was a TOP 25 FBS team..they went on to crush Iowa State. I know UNI lost but how many games in history ended on 2 blocked FG? I know it's not ASU over Michigan 2007 but how many "Top 25" FBS have ever been beaten by a FCS team before ASU-Michigan. My point is this is a significant game...then UNI turn puts up 66 points last week. QB Pat Grace, a kicker, thunder & lightning in the backfield...with a great D....they're the team to beat in my opinion. Having watched Richmond almost lose to Delaware, I give the #2 spot to Villanova....I also think W&M & JMU are solid top to bottom & showed their superiority in match-ups with FCS too (I'm not overly enamored with FCS wins but Virginia & Maryland are legitimate programs). I think App State would be in my top 6 even at 0-4!! - they are so good every year that I can't see the DNA changing after 2 close ones without their best player. I would also add that anyone who had UNH in their top 6, hasn't seen them play yet. I am a UNH fanatic & I think they have the best defense they've had in a decade BUT their offense has been woeful.....it couldn't beat any team on this list today. However, if they can find their rythym & plays, get RB Kackert back, & Toman can regain his accuracy - they will be more balanced in playoffs than previous years (Oct 10th Villanova will say a lot)

1. Northern Iowa Panthers
2. Villanova Wildcats
3. Richmond Spiders
4. Montana Grizzlies
5. William & Mary Tribe
6. Appalachian State Mountaineers
7. James Madison Dukes
8. New Hampshire Wildcats
9. McNeese State Cowboys
10. Southern Illinois Salukis

ValleyChamp
September 16th, 2009, 06:06 PM
SDSU is the factor at play, GSU>USD, and it's just my opinion, which is neither right or wrong, but an opinion.

Not right, not wrong. But stupid.xpeacex

PhoenixSupreme
September 16th, 2009, 06:11 PM
1. Villanova
2. Northern Iowa
3. William & Mary
4. Montana
5. Richmond
6. New Hampshire
7. Elon
8. McNeese State
9. JMU
10. App. State

Kind of hard to do a top 10, but that's about as close as I'll try to make one out

appirishmen
September 16th, 2009, 06:41 PM
Elon doesn't get in your Top 10? xsmhx Oh well, they have choked the last 2 years, but they are pretty good right now. Good enough for the top 10.
Here's my top 10
1. Richmond
2. N. Iowa
3. JMU
4. Elon
5. Villanova
6. App St.
7. Montana
8. William & Mary
9. Southern Ill.
10. New Hampshire

way to high. Elon has not played anyone..... of course they have the top o and d right now....who have they played to challenge them?

JohnStOnge
September 16th, 2009, 06:49 PM
All I'll say is that I'd put Northern Iowa at #1 at this point. I think a real good argument can be made for Richmond. But if I honestly ask myself which FCS team right now has had the most impressive performance and appears to be the best team in FCS my answer is 'Northern Iowa."

VT Wildcat Fan53
September 16th, 2009, 06:50 PM
1. Richmond
2. Villanova
3. Northern Iowa
4. William & Mary
5. Montana
6. James Madison
7. New Hampshire
8. Elon
9. Southern Illinois
10. McNeese St.

JohnStOnge
September 16th, 2009, 06:55 PM
I am shocked that no one has ranked UNI #1.

If it makes you feel better: I posted my last post before I read yours.

tandemlax
September 16th, 2009, 07:07 PM
1. Richmond
2. Northern Iowa
3. Villanova
4. William & Mary
5. Montana
6. James Madison
7. Elon
8. New Hampshire
9. McNeese State
10. Appalachian State

mcneese
September 16th, 2009, 07:16 PM
I'd put the McBoys somewhere around 11 or 12....for now.

BigHouseClosedEnd
September 16th, 2009, 07:23 PM
Here was mine this week. I had JMU at 11 and UD at 12.

1. Villanova
2. Richmond
3. Northern Iowa
4. William & Mary
5. Elon
6. Montana
7. New Hampshire
8. McNeese St.
9. Appalachian St.
10. Southern Illinois

achrist70
September 16th, 2009, 07:33 PM
1.2.3. Richmond, UNI Nova put them were you want I won't argue a lot
4. William & Mary-A couple of impressive wins
5. Montana-A good team with some not so impressive wins
6. SIU-Lost to an average FBS team, but there is a lot of talent
7. Mc Neese-Beat App. State still a lot to prove
8. SDSU-Quality win but still have something to prove
9. Elon-Right now best team in SoCon (other teams might have something to say)
10. James Madison-Good team with decent games.

uofmman1122
September 16th, 2009, 07:53 PM
I don't know how anyone can have us in the top 5.

Those of you that do, I imagine you haven't seen us play. xlolx

We've got top 5 talent, but we have yet to show we know how to use it. Hopefully we figure things out this week against PSU.

Gil Dobie
September 16th, 2009, 07:56 PM
I don't know how anyone can have us in the top 5.

Those of you that do, I imagine you haven't seen us play. xlolx

We've got top 5 talent, but we have yet to show we know how to use it. Hopefully we figure things out this week against PSU.

Seems like Montana plays some close games with lesser competition every year, and ends up with a great record, Big Sky Championship and a playoff bid. It's hard to get a read based on past history.

joecooll6
September 16th, 2009, 08:20 PM
SDSU is the factor at play, GSU>USD, and it's just my opinion, which is neither right or wrong, but an opinion.

If thats your rationale, and you're going to disregard our 1 point loss to a Top 25 FBS team, and how we finished last year, what has Elon or SIU, or heck even Wofford or Cal Poly or Montana done to deserve to be ahead of UNI right now based on your criteria. What exactly are your criteria that leave UNI out of the Top 10?

I know Im coming off like a dbag, but Id just like to see the set of rules that puts UNI outside of the Top Ten at this point.

appirishmen
September 16th, 2009, 08:46 PM
i dont see how everyone has Elon so high. they have not been tested. they have only beat Davidson and Presby, both teams could be beaten by most if not all of the rest of the socon. if they beat wake by a lot this weekend i will be a little more sold. but untill then i say they are too high. i do agree that McNeese should be in the top 7. they looked really good last sat. but to be honest... wake isnt that strong, they lost to Baylor and only beat Stanford by 7.

Gil Dobie
September 16th, 2009, 08:48 PM
If thats your rationale, and you're going to disregard our 1 point loss to a Top 25 FBS team, and how we finished last year, what has Elon or SIU, or heck even Wofford or Cal Poly or Montana done to deserve to be ahead of UNI right now based on your criteria. What exactly are your criteria that leave UNI out of the Top 10?

I know Im coming off like a dbag, but Id just like to see the set of rules that puts UNI outside of the Top Ten at this point.

Elon, Cal-Poly and Montana do not have a loss. I have UNI 2 or 3 in the MVFC, and I went with SIU at 2 at this time. We don't know how good Iowa is in the Big 10 right now. Central Michigan just beat Michigan St. If Wofford loses to Wisconsin this weekend, they drop big in my poll. If SDSU loses to Minnesota, same thing. Elon and Wofford are my 1 & 2 in the SoCo, both in the top 10. Sorry if there are no hard fast rules this early in the season. xpeacex

PhoenixMan
September 16th, 2009, 09:13 PM
i dont see how everyone has Elon so high. they have not been tested. they have only beat Davidson and Presby, both teams could be beaten by most if not all of the rest of the socon. if they beat wake by a lot this weekend i will be a little more sold. but untill then i say they are too high. i do agree that McNeese should be in the top 7. they looked really good last sat. but to be honest... wake isnt that strong, they lost to Baylor and only beat Stanford by 7.

Elon has 18 of 22 starters back on a team that was 7-1 at one point and ranked #3 for several weeks last year. Top 6 or 7 is not too lofty for them. If they beat Wake by a lot? How about if they beat them at all. That should be enough to change your mind. And, Of course McNeese State looked good. They were playing the now 0-2 Mountaineers.xnodx

Skjellyfetti
September 16th, 2009, 09:23 PM
a team that was 7-1 at one point


and ranked #3 for several weeks last year.




They were playing the now 0-2 Mountaineers.xnodx

Elon fans love these early season polls. Please come back after your yearly November collapse.

South Carolina Duke
September 16th, 2009, 09:25 PM
Richmond
Nova
Montana
Northern Iowa
Wm & Mary
JMU
New Hampshire
Southern Ill
McNeese State
App State* They belong somewhere, above any other SoCon team, but 0-2 record is hard to have in the top 10

WrenFGun
September 16th, 2009, 09:35 PM
Any undefeated team with an FBS win should be in the top 10...sooo, Richmond, W&M, 'Nova, and UNH. Signature FCS Wins: McNeese State, South Dakota State, Richmond (you can see why Richmond is my #1).

There is absolutely, positively, NO WAY anyone can think SIU is better than UNI, in my opinion. Having played both in the playoffs, it wasn't close, talent wise, IMO, nevermind that SIU lost their best and only significant offensive threat.

My top 10, as I recall, was:
1. Richmond
2. Nova
3. Northern Iowa
4. William and Mary
5. New Hampshire
6. Montana
7. James Madison
8. McNeese
9. Southern Illinois
10. South Dakota State

In retrospect, I should have flopped 9 and 10, but I had SIU higher than SDSU to begin the season.

PantherRob82
September 16th, 2009, 09:45 PM
All I'll say is that I'd put Northern Iowa at #1 at this point. I think a real good argument can be made for Richmond. But if I honestly ask myself which FCS team right now has had the most impressive performance and appears to be the best team in FCS my answer is 'Northern Iowa."

We're not in the CAA though. :D

PantherRob82
September 16th, 2009, 09:46 PM
Seems like Montana plays some close games with lesser competition every year, and ends up with a great record, Big Sky Championship and a playoff bid. It's hard to get a read based on past history.

That's why it's good to watch games. Not necesarily aimed at you, but a general comment.

uofmman1122
September 16th, 2009, 09:54 PM
That's why it's good to watch games. Not necesarily aimed at you, but a general comment.Exactly, which is why I don't think anyone who has Montana in the top 5 that isn't a homer has seen us play.

appirishmen
September 16th, 2009, 09:55 PM
They were playing the now 0-2 Mountaineers.xnodx

yea...im sure if we played the teams you played we would be 2-0 also xnodx lets talk after conference play starts. its going to be a good year.

PantherRob82
September 16th, 2009, 09:57 PM
Exactly, which is why I don't think anyone who has Montana in the top 5 that isn't a homer has seen us play.

Some of us are just much smarter than others. ;)xcoffeexxwhistlexxrotatehx

PhoenixMan
September 16th, 2009, 09:57 PM
yea...im sure if we played the teams you played we would be 2-0 also xnodx lets talk after conference play starts. its going to be a good year.

Just trying to get a little something goingxlolx Your guy was the one who came out of nowhere with "why is everyone picking Elon so high?" Because we're a very good football team, that's why. Will the choke monster show up again in Nov.? I sure hope not.xsmhx

UNIFanSince1983
September 16th, 2009, 10:15 PM
Elon, Cal-Poly and Montana do not have a loss. I have UNI 2 or 3 in the MVFC, and I went with SIU at 2 at this time. We don't know how good Iowa is in the Big 10 right now. Central Michigan just beat Michigan St. If Wofford loses to Wisconsin this weekend, they drop big in my poll. If SDSU loses to Minnesota, same thing. Elon and Wofford are my 1 & 2 in the SoCo, both in the top 10. Sorry if there are no hard fast rules this early in the season. xpeacex

I understand these are you opinions and there are no hard and fast rules, but if you are bringing in the fact that we don't know how good Iowa is then you need to re-look at SIU and SDSU. SIU has only played Marshall and I think we can agree Iowa is better than Marshall. So shouldn't a 1-1 team be better than an 0-1 team?

And we have no idea how good GSU is yet. Are they better than USD? I think that should be very evident, but again we have less to judge them on as they have played only 1 game. I know it isn't much, but our sample size is slightly larger than theirs.

I realize at this point polls mean nothing, but it seems you have some sort of axe to grind. I could see that as a lot of UNI fans have gotten pretty full of themselves after a close loss to Iowa, and a blowout of USD. I am not sold on Iowa I think they will be middle of the road in the Big 10, and USD could not have stopped an 80 year old woman from getting 200 receiving yards. They made no adjustments on defense all game either. That being said I find it difficult to not have us at least in the top 10 at this point. xpeacex

coover
September 16th, 2009, 11:06 PM
Cal Poly over the Griz, huh? xwhistlex

I'm not even going to attempt to vote for a top 10, but the Griz have had two bad games, and Cal Poly was surprisingly good in it's first and only game. Is Cal Poly as good or better than Montana? October 10 may decide that, though the Griz will have a distinct advantage in Missoula, weather wise and "12th man" wise.

I hope Montana plays better than they have. While a 38 - 0 score shows one team very superior to another, when a top FCS team plays a mediocre to awful NAIA team, it either showing mercy, or is fairly bad itself. Western State has lost to Fort Hays State 45 - 17 and to Nebraska-Kearney 45 - 13 and shows no evidence of being a good football team. And then they (the Griz) won (barely) 17-10 to a Cal Davis, a team that had been destroyed the previous week by FBS Fresno State 51 - 0, and it wasn't that close. The defense that couldn't stop Fresno State, kept Montana at a standstill. And a (evidently horrible offense - Davis attempted 60 passes, mostly short, and had no running game) was able to score one touchdown and one field goal.

Montana will have to play better to beat Cal Poly, even in Missoula.

malibudude
September 17th, 2009, 12:52 AM
Montana has 2 QB issues, neither one is named Bergquist. Struggles.

uofmman1122
September 17th, 2009, 12:59 AM
Montana has 2 QB issues, neither one is named Bergquist. Struggles.I think both our QBs are good. In some aspects, better than Bergquist (worse in others, of course).

However, we just need to %^$#ING PICK ONE!

aggiemba
September 17th, 2009, 01:27 AM
I'm not even going to attempt to vote for a top 10, but the Griz have had two bad games, and Cal Poly was surprisingly good in it's first and only game. Is Cal Poly as good or better than Montana? October 10 may decide that, though the Griz will have a distinct advantage in Missoula, weather wise and "12th man" wise.

I hope Montana plays better than they have. While a 38 - 0 score shows one team very superior to another, when a top FCS team plays a mediocre to awful NAIA team, it either showing mercy, or is fairly bad itself. Western State has lost to Fort Hays State 45 - 17 and to Nebraska-Kearney 45 - 13 and shows no evidence of being a good football team. And then they (the Griz) won (barely) 17-10 to a Cal Davis, a team that had been destroyed the previous week by FBS Fresno State 51 - 0, and it wasn't that close. The defense that couldn't stop Fresno State, kept Montana at a standstill. And a (evidently horrible offense - Davis attempted 60 passes, mostly short, and had no running game) was able to score one touchdown and one field goal.

Montana will have to play better to beat Cal Poly, even in Missoula.

Don't worry Coover, you can eat crow, when we kick the S#^T out of Poly in the 'shoe battle.xnonox

mlbowl
September 17th, 2009, 02:09 AM
I think both our QBs are good. In some aspects, better than Bergquist (worse in others, of course).

However, we just need to %^$#ING PICK ONE!

xnodxxnodxxnodx

Dignan
September 17th, 2009, 03:35 AM
I think both our QBs are good. In some aspects, better than Bergquist (worse in others, of course).

However, we just need to %^$#ING PICK ONE!

I feel your pain.

JMU Newbill
September 17th, 2009, 06:03 AM
I feel your pain.



Both of our QB's will play on Saturday.

Fortunately, I think MM finally realized that in real games, not games against VMI and the likes, we know who our real starting qb is.

South Carolina Duke
September 17th, 2009, 07:18 AM
Both of our QB's will play on Saturday.

Fortunately, I think MM finally realized that in real games, not games against VMI and the likes, we know who our real starting qb is.

Not so sure about that yet. Did you listen to Mickey's interview on Madizone?

purplepeopleeaterv2
September 17th, 2009, 09:10 AM
That's Mickey being the Mick. When push came to shove you see who had the majority of the playing time on the field against Maryland. However, that said if Duzdik is having a bad game I would not even blink to see Thorpe immediately come in.

89Hen
September 17th, 2009, 09:16 AM
I am shocked that no one has ranked UNI #1. They outplayed & should have beaten #22 Iowa in front of 71k fans. Iowa was a TOP 25 FBS team..they went on to crush Iowa State.
Time will tell if Iowa is a Top 25 team. Crushing Iowa State? They were 2-10 last year.

Dignan
September 17th, 2009, 09:43 AM
Time will tell if Iowa is a Top 25 team. Crushing Iowa State? They were 2-10 last year.

I believe he was referring to crushing the state itself. As I understand it it is pretty flat there. xrotatehx

Gil Dobie
September 17th, 2009, 10:02 AM
That's why it's good to watch games. Not necesarily aimed at you, but a general comment.

I may not have watched Montana, but I have seen Iowa, and IMO, they are not a top 25 team, and I watched Iowa St, which IMO, is the worst FBS school that NDSU has played, which doesn't give me much hope for a winning season for NDSU. People laughed when I said App St would be Michigan, and NDSU would beat Montana in 2003. UNI should have beat Iowa.

Gil Dobie
September 17th, 2009, 10:05 AM
And we have no idea how good GSU is yet. Are they better than USD? I think that should be very evident, but again we have less to judge them on as they have played only 1 game. I know it isn't much, but our sample size is slightly larger than theirs.

Yes, GSU would beat USD by 20 points, IMO. I don't think USD is as good as Albany.

smcwildcat
September 17th, 2009, 11:31 AM
UNI
Richmond
Nova
Montana
UNH
Mcneese
W&m
JMU
Elon
?

WMTribe90
September 17th, 2009, 12:43 PM
1. Richmond
2. Villanova
3. Northern Iowa
4. Montana
5. Weber St.
6. Wofford
7. Southern Illinois
8. James Madison
9. South Dakota St.
10. Elon

Wow 89, you're the only poster to this entire thread that doesn't have WM in the top 10. Most had us in the top 5. No big deal, but I have to ask your justification. Obviously on-field results mean knowing in your evaluation process, so I'm just curious as to what rationale you use for your rankings. Perhaps we are trying too hard to show we don't have a CAA bias byexcluding UNH and WM. Hard to argue at this point that WM doesn't have a top ten resume.

elon77
September 17th, 2009, 01:43 PM
as you know, I can get a little carried away.....a win? I can't go that far, but I think they will keep it close, and have a chance to win if they can create some turnovers. Either way, I'll be in 50 yd. line seats in the middle of the Demon Deacon club section, screaming like a maniac. If someone tries to kick my arse, you gonna help me out?xcoolx

Let them beat him up and knock some sense in him because sometimes he acts like he doesn't have any.xnodx

ToTheLeft
September 17th, 2009, 03:15 PM
1) Richmond
2) Nova
3) UNI
4) William and Mary
5) Elon
6) UNH
7) Montana
8) Wofford
9) JMU
10) Weber State

This was how I voted in the AGS Poll. I'm really high on Elon, but after the buttwhooping they put on us in '07 I have been following them and keeping an eye on how they're doing.

WrenFGun
September 17th, 2009, 03:30 PM
Wow 89, you're the only poster to this entire thread that doesn't have WM in the top 10. Most had us in the top 5. No big deal, but I have to ask your justification. Obviously on-field results mean knowing in your evaluation process, so I'm just curious as to what rationale you use for your rankings. Perhaps we are trying too hard to show we don't have a CAA bias byexcluding UNH and WM. Hard to argue at this point that WM doesn't have a top ten resume.

...he doesn't have UNH, either..but it wouldn't be FCS season if I had to point out to 89 that UNH is better than he thinks they are.

grizzpaw
September 17th, 2009, 05:55 PM
1.) idaho state
2.) sc state
3.) rhode island
4.) southern utah
5.) indiana state
6.) robert morris
7.) citadel
8.) se louisiana
9.) georgetown
10.) se missouri state



:Dxthumbsupx

mcneese
September 17th, 2009, 06:42 PM
that is so freaking funny!!!xlolxxnodxxlolx

PhoenixMan
September 17th, 2009, 07:41 PM
[QUOTE=elon77;1409918]Let them beat him up and knock some sense in him because sometimes he acts like he doesn't have any.xnodx[/QUOTE
I'm not sure what you are referring to....maybe my political posts? Which would explain it I guess. If you're at the game, come see me and we can talk about it...home side, 50 yd. line, section 6. I'll be the good looking guy dressed in maroon.
xnonono2xxnonono2xxnonono2x

mlbowl
September 17th, 2009, 07:47 PM
1.) idaho state
2.) sc state
3.) rhode island
4.) southern utah
5.) indiana state
6.) robert morris
7.) citadel
8.) se louisiana
9.) georgetown
10.) se missouri state



:Dxthumbsupx

Looks good to mexnodxxlolx

LakesBison
September 17th, 2009, 08:59 PM
1.Richmond
2. Villanova
3. Northern Iowa
4. Montana
5. Weber St.
6. Wofford
7. Southern Illinois
8. James Madison
9. North Dakota St.
10. Elon

after week 4. NDSU will leapfrog SIU. No way NDSU is NOT a top 10 FCS "PROGRAM"

ValleyChamp
September 17th, 2009, 09:45 PM
xoopsx

mmiller_34
September 17th, 2009, 10:02 PM
1.Richmond
2. Villanova
3. Northern Iowa
4. Montana
5. Weber St.
6. Wofford
7. Southern Illinois
8. James Madison
9. North Dakota St.
10. Elon

after week 4. NDSU will leapfrog SIU. No way NDSU is NOT a top 10 FCS "PROGRAM"


but... that was more of like...... just a joke right?

CAAisBOSS
September 17th, 2009, 10:05 PM
1.Richmond
2. Villanova
3. Northern Iowa
4. Montana
5. Weber St.
6. Wofford
7. Southern Illinois
8. James Madison
9. North Dakota St.
10. Elon

after week 4. NDSU will leapfrog SIU. No way NDSU is NOT a top 10 FCS "PROGRAM"

no William and Mary??xconfusedx

mmiller_34
September 17th, 2009, 10:08 PM
1) Richmond
2) Nova
3) UNI
4) William and Mary
5) Montana
6) UNH
7) Elon
8) Wofford
9) JMU
10) Weber State


SDSU had a great win, but thats just 1 game. We might have the squad to become a top ten team this year. But right now?? We have to earn our way into the top ten, beating GSU, Indiana State, and Illinois State will not get us there. During the stretch of Cal Poly, NDSU, and UNI. Thats when we will know. We'll see what happens when we get there.

ValleyChamp
September 17th, 2009, 10:51 PM
no William and Mary??xconfusedx

I like that you are more confused about no W&M, rather than NDSU being in his top 10.xlolxxrotatehx

PantherRob82
September 17th, 2009, 10:56 PM
1.Richmond
2. Villanova
3. Northern Iowa
4. Montana
5. Weber St.
6. Wofford
7. Southern Illinois
8. James Madison
9. North Dakota St.
10. Elon

after week 4. NDSU will leapfrog SIU. No way NDSU is NOT a top 10 FCS "PROGRAM"

xlolxxlolxxlolx

Will NDSU go .500 this year?

CAAisBOSS
September 17th, 2009, 11:03 PM
I like that you are more confused about no W&M, rather than NDSU being in his top 10.xlolxxrotatehx

I thought that part of it went without saying...xnodx

Gil Dobie
September 18th, 2009, 07:57 AM
1.Richmond
2. Villanova
3. Northern Iowa
4. Montana
5. Weber St.
6. Wofford
7. Southern Illinois
8. James Madison
9. North Dakota St.
10. Elon

after week 4. NDSU will leapfrog SIU. No way NDSU is NOT a top 10 FCS "PROGRAM"

Sorry Lakes, 0-2 teams don't belong in the top 10 xsmhx

unigriff
September 18th, 2009, 10:17 AM
the world might end if App St. goes 0-3!!! :)

Gil Dobie
September 18th, 2009, 12:31 PM
the world might end if App St. goes 0-3!!! :)

App St won't win this weekend ;)

They won't lose either xoopsx

Khan4Cats
September 18th, 2009, 02:35 PM
App St won't win this weekend ;)

They won't lose either xoopsx

Depends on if the lawn needs mowing.xwhistlex

Twentysix
September 20th, 2009, 01:14 AM
Anyone find it funny that alot of the UNI guys have there panties in a jumble that they arent ranked in the top 10 on a bison top 10 poll.
I think UNI NDSU fans have a sort of UND NDSU rivalry already.

I doubt the teams agree, but sure as hell seems the fans do.

And just to do uni some justice heres my top 10

NDSU
UNI
UNI
UNI
UNI
UNI
UNI
UNI
UNI
UNI

Sucka's!

mmiller_34
September 20th, 2009, 02:50 AM
Anyone find it funny that alot of the UNI guys have there panties in a jumble that they arent ranked in the top 10 on a bison top 10 poll.



Probably because Northern Iowa wins games and gets top ten respect every year.xeyebrowx