Northwestern St. at Grambling St. Game Thread

[Dallas Demon]

Demons already missed a couple of field goals, but driving now at the Grambling 6.

[Dallas Demon]

Loss last week to Houston (55-7) now not as bad, Houston just beat #5 Oklahoma St. 45-35 at Oklahoma St.

[darell1976]

I hope for no serious injuries for NW St as we have you next week. And you will be facing a well rested Sioux team.

[Dallas Demon]

I hope for no serious injuries for NW St as we have you next week. And you will be facing a well rested Sioux team.

We have 8-10 out with the flu today, hopefully our backups will be able to pull their weight.

[Dallas Demon]

Another missed FG by the Demons. Correction, fake field goal was not successful.

[darell1976]

We have 8-10 out with the flu today, hopefully our backups will be able to pull their weight.

I hope its not swine flu.

[Dallas Demon]

Demons drive down again, now TD Demons. Castille (back from Nebraska) 25 yard run down close to the goal line, then we punched it in (Castille again). Demons 7-0.

[Dallas Demon]

I hope its not swine flu.

Yes, swine flu.

[Dallas Demon]

I hope its not swine flu.

You coming down next week by any chance?

[darell1976]

You coming down next week by any chance?

Nope.

[Dallas Demon]

Driving rain all day at Grambling and still during the game.

[Dallas Demon]

Castille bulled over Grambling defenders for a 59 yard run. Demons now on the 19 of Grambling.

[Dallas Demon]

Demons now on the Grambling 8 yard line, 1st down.

[Dallas Demon]

TD Demons! 13-0 with extra point coming up.

[Dallas Demon]

6:03 left in the 2nd quarter, Northwestern St. 14, Grambling St. 0

[Dallas Demon]

Demons marching, but fumble. Grambling picks it up and runs it in for a TD. Now 14-7 Demons with 1:57 to go before the half.

[Dallas Demon]

Demons lose on another scoring opportunity at the end of the half (could have gotten a FG). Throw an interception. Halftime, Northwestern St. 14, Grambling St. 7.

[Dallas Demon]

Northwestern threw another interception and this one was run back for a TD. Now 14-14 with 11:23 left in the 3rd. The Demons have not punted yet, missed on 2 FG opportunities and another fake FG, one fumble and a return for a TD, and another interception for a TD. Grambling has punted every series. First half stats, Demons 38 plays for 224 yards, Grambling 37 plays for 89 yards.

[TexasTerror]

Sounds like NWST is letting Grambling have a shot by giving the ball away...

Outside of that, sounds like all Demons - Grambling is playing awful and having a chance to hang tight. Clamp down on the mistakes and shove them around!

[Dallas Demon]

Sounds like NWST is letting Grambling have a shot by giving the ball away...

Outside of that, sounds like all Demons - Grambling is playing awful and having a chance to hang tight. Clamp down on the mistakes and shove them around!

Yes, another interception by Hundley and a return for a TD by Grambling. We need the freshman QB in there now. 21-14 Grambling.

[TexasTerror]

Come on NWST! We can't lose to the SWAC on the SLC's banner day (win over SoCon, NEC and possibly soon the MVFC).

May as well wrap this one up in a pretty box the way the Demons are playing. Hundley has never been consistent for NWST and will cost them in SLC play.

[Dallas Demon]

Come on NWST! We can't lose to the SWAC on the SLC's banner day (win over SoCon, NEC and possibly soon the MVFC).

May as well wrap this one up in a pretty box the way the Demons are playing. Hundley has never been consistent for NWST and will cost them in SLC play.

Agreed the way he is playing. The Grambling offense has gotten nothing the whole game. This is shocking.

[TexasTerror]

Grambling's offense is not used to dealing with a legitimate D-Line. They won't see that in SWAC play and their offensive linemen are completely overwhelmed. Typical of a game against the SWAC where the O-lines are weak (per SWAC fans).

Would be nice if the Demons could disrupt the G-Men's nice home winning streak. Keep us updated...

[Dallas Demon]

Demons now marching close to the red zone. Now just running smash-mouth football.

[Dallas Demon]

Another Demon fumble in the red zone, Grambling football.

[Dallas Demon]

Demons lose a 4th down snap on their own 40 (another fumble), Grambling gets the ball on their 30.

[Dallas Demon]

FG Grambling, they lead the Demons 24-14 with 37 seconds left in the 3rd quarter.

[TexasTerror]

FG Grambling, they lead the Demons 24-14 with 37 seconds left in the 3rd quarter.

Alright Demons, enough with the gift-giving! Time to strap the ball to your gloves and shove it at the G-Men for 15 and change! xthumbsupx

[Dallas Demon]

End of the 3rd, Grambling 24-14.

[TexasTerror]

No updates in 10 min?

Did NWST cough up the ball again and you threw your computer out in a fit of rage?

[Dallas Demon]

FG Demons, 24-17 Grambling with just over 9 min. left in the 4th.

[Dallas Demon]

No updates in 10 min?

Did NWST cough up the ball again and you threw your computer out in a fit of rage?

Ha! Demons intercepted and made a 27 yard FG.

[TexasTerror]

Alright!

Demons, do what you've done all game and stop their offense. It's not like they know how to do anything against you besides taking advantage of your offense's mistakes...

[Dallas Demon]

Demons have not punted the whole game. Grambling offense has gotten nothing. One of the strangest games ever.

[Dallas Demon]

Now Grambling gets an 80 yard run up the middle, Demons push him out of bounds inside the Demon 5.

[Dallas Demon]

What do you know, Grambling fumbles, it goes into the end zone, and they recover for a TD. 8:02 left in the 4th, Grambling 31, Northwestern 17. Nicholls St. has shown Grambling their voodoo techniques that they use in Thibodaux.

[Dallas Demon]

It continues. Demons rough the punter to give Grambling a 1st down with 3 min. left.

[Dallas Demon]

1:42 left, Grambling TD, 38-17.

Step 1) Pick up computer
Step 2) Slam into the wall
Step 3) Go find lots of chocolate or ice cream and eat until I'm sick

[TexasTerror]

The score is not indicative of the game, is it?

G-Men put up plenty of points when NWST is pressing after taking it to Grambling the entire game. A very rough loss for the SLC, a big win for the SWAC - since we all know they'll have few OOC.

[Dallas Demon]

The score is not indicative of the game, is it?

G-Men put up plenty of points when NWST is pressing after taking it to Grambling the entire game. A very rough loss for the SLC, a big win for the SWAC - since we all know they'll have few OOC.

No, it is not indicative - however the score is the score. Congrats to Grambling, they did what they needed to do to win. We're not a very good football team now, hopefully it will change for the better soon.

[gram4life]

The score is not indicative of the game, is it?

G-Men put up plenty of points when NWST is pressing after taking it to Grambling the entire game. A very rough loss for the SLC, a big win for the SWAC - since we all know they'll have few OOC.

I know it's just eating you up inside. We played the game just like they did, what do you call our turnovers in the 1st half?

[Dallas Demon]

Final: Grambling St. 38, Northwestern St. 17.

[TexasTerror]

I know it's just eating you up inside. We played the game just like they did, what do you call our turnovers in the 1st half?

Hey, congrats on the win! The SWAC had a huge day with wins over NWST and Hampton (AAMU). This was a banner day for the league...

Demons turnovers were their ultimate downfall, because for the most part, the Grambling offense was sub-par and could not cut it against most any legitimate top 40 program, which NWST proved they are not...

The SLC had itself a banner day as well with wins over the MVFC (NDSU) and SoCon (AppSt). Guess it's not so bad...but it'd of been even sweeter if the Demons were actually the team some of them led us to believe they were...

[gram4life]

Hey, congrats on the win! The SWAC had a huge day with wins over NWST and Hampton (AAMU). This was a banner day for the league...

Demons turnovers were their ultimate downfall, because for the most part, the Grambling offense was sub-par and could not cut it against most any legitimate top 40 program, which NWST proved they are not...

The SLC had itself a banner day as well with wins over the MVFC (NDSU) and SoCon (AppSt). Guess it's not so bad...but it'd of been even sweeter if the Demons were actually the team some of them led us to believe they were...

Hater! Defense is part of the game and it's played for 4 quarters.

[crossfire07]

why is it he is a hater? because he speaks the truth?

[Dallas Demon]

why is it he is a hater? because he speaks the truth?

Why you steady hatin?

[TexasTerror]

Hater! Defense is part of the game and it's played for 4 quarters.

And what's offense? Not part of the game?

Outside of that 80 yard run, what consistency did we see from Grambling's offense? Show me the box score when it comes out. We'll see how well the G-men did.

All indications are that the Demons gave Grambling this game and the field position necessary to win by fumbling and continued poor decision-making by the QB.

On TSPN, plenty of praise for the defensive coordinator. Trust me, he knows the same thing most of the SLC knows as it relates to the Demons. It was not anything new...

[crossfire07]

I don't have an ounce of hate in my body. there is nothing that I hate. takes up too much time and energy to hate.

[gram4life]

And what's offense? Not part of the game?

Outside of that 80 yard run, what consistency did we see from Grambling's offense? Show me the box score when it comes out. We'll see how well the G-men did.

All indications are that the Demons gave Grambling this game and the field position necessary to win by fumbling and continued poor decision-making by the QB.

On TSPN, plenty of praise for the defensive coordinator. Trust me, he knows the same thing most of the SLC knows as it relates to the Demons. It was not anything new...

So the defense stopping the Demons to cut the lead to 7, was the demons fault not anything to do with Grambling, then the defense picking the ball to tie the game for the demons fault again, not anything to do with Grambling, the defense again turning around and picking the ball for another TD was not Grambling but yet again the demons fault. Ok I see where this is going, cool. Check NWst second half stats you will see they didnt do much of anything either.

[gram4life]

why is it he is a hater? because he speaks the truth?

I'm calling him one because he is, it wouldn't matter how we won this game. It will always be something, I've been around long enough to see that.

[JagHammer]

Good job Gram!!!xthumbsupx

[Coug96]

Good job Tigers!!! Great way to overcome early turnovers and get the win. Good game NWST!!

[R.A.]

Grambling's win over Northwestern State, strengthens South Carolina State's win over Grambling.

[TexasTerror]

Grambling's win over Northwestern State, strengthens South Carolina State's win over Grambling.

Depends on how Grambling AND Northwestern State finish...

The SWAC seems to be up slightly this year, so if Grambling win the league, it most certainly does. However, the Demons have yet to gain a Div I win in two attempts and could be in for a rough year. No telling at this point.

So Carolina St needs to focus on winning the MEAC and getting an AQ.

[R.A.]

Alabama A&M defeated Hampton this weekend also. Big SWAC wins.

[Dallas Demon]

Depends on how Grambling AND Northwestern State finish...

The SWAC seems to be up slightly this year, so if Grambling win the league, it most certainly does. However, the Demons have yet to gain a Div I win in two attempts and could be in for a rough year. No telling at this point.

So Carolina St needs to focus on winning the MEAC and getting an AQ.

Still too early to tell, I suspect the new coaching staff is struggling a bit to get their system to bite. The telling tale is whether we start to get better as the season goes on. North Dakota will be tough next week, Baylor will be nearly impossible to beat with the way they are playing, we will likely be 0-4 or at best 1-3 if we beat North Dakota going into Southland play. So we have 2 games to start turning things around.

[NSUDemon98]

I don't have an ounce of hate in my body. there is nothing that I hate. takes up too much time and energy to hate.

Hate? maybe not...but you see really happy to see a fellow SLC team lose a OOC game. xeyebrowx

[Dallas Demon]

Good job Tigers!!! Great way to overcome early turnovers and get the win. Good game NWST!!

Congrats GSU on your win tonight, your team took advantage of all opportunities you created and came away with a nice win. I'm hopeful that this series can continue and next time have decent weather to play in (hurricane last year and a downpour this year!).

[Frosty The Snowbuff]

Good job Gram!!!xthumbsupx

Makes it all the sweeter when Southern beats Grambling....:D

[gram4life]

Congrats GSU on your win tonight, your team took advantage of all opportunities you created and came away with a nice win. I'm hopeful that this series can continue and next time have decent weather to play in (hurricane last year and a downpour this year!).

Thank you, that's all I'm trying to say.

[MACHIAVELLI]

Team Statistics (Final)
Southwestern Athletic Conference -2009
Northwestern State vs Grambling State (Sep 12, 2009 at Grabling, LA)

Team Totals NWLA GSU
FIRST DOWNS 15 20
Rushing 9 11
Passing 5 7
Penalty 1 2
NET YARDS RUSHING 178 169
Rushing Attempts 43 47
Average Per Rush 4.1 3.6
Rushing Touchdowns 2 2
Yards Gained Rushing 227 250
Yards Lost Rushing 49 81
NET YARDS PASSING 138 144
Completions-Attempts-Int 13-29-4 18-31-2
Average Per Attempt 4.8 4.6
Average Per Completion 10.6 8.0
Passing Touchdowns 0 0
TOTAL OFFENSE YARDS 316 313
Total offense plays 72 78
Average Gain Per Play 4.4 4.0
Fumbles: Number-Lost 5-2 6-2
Penalties: Number-Yards 7-61 11-156
PUNTS-YARDS 2-64 3-97
Average Yards Per Punt 32.0 32.3
Net Yards Per Punt 32.0 33.7
Inside 20 0 0
50+ Yards 0 0
Touchbacks 0 0
Fair catch 1 0
KICKOFFS-YARDS 4-233 7-240
Average Yards Per Kickoff 58.2 34.3
Net Yards Per Kickoff 43.5 37.1
Touchbacks 0 0
Punt returns: Number-Yards-TD 1--4-0 0-0-0
Average Per Return -4.0 0.0
Kickoff returns: Number-Yds-TD 6--20-0 4-59-0
Average Per Return -3.3 14.8
Interceptions: Number-Yds-TD 2-22-0 4-49-2
Fumble Returns: Number-Yds-TD 0-0-0 1-37-1
Miscellaneous Yards 0 0
Possession Time 25:26 34:34
1st Quarter 8:27 6:33
2nd Quarter 5:50 9:10
3rd Quarter 7:37 7:23
4th Quarter 3:32 11:28
Third-Down Conversions 1 of 12 7 of 17
Fourth-Down Conversions 1 of 4 1 of 2
Red-Zone Scores-Chances 2-4 3-3
Sacks By: Number-Yards 2-13 1-3
PAT Kicks 2-2 5-5
Field Goals 1-3 1-2
Individual Statistics

[MACHIAVELLI]

Drive Chart (By Quarter)

Drive Started Drive Ended Consumed
Team Qtr Spot Time Obtained Spot Time How Lost Pl-Yds TOP RZ
GSU 1st G30 15:00 Possession G30 15:00 Kickoff 0-0 0:00
NWLA 1st N46 15:00 Kickoff G11 12:44 Missed FG 5-43 2:16
GSU 1st G20 12:44 Missed FG G38 11:35 Fumble 2-18 1:09
NWLA 1st G38 11:35 Fumble G21 09:21 Missed FG 7-17 2:14
GSU 1st G20 09:21 Missed FG G26 07:06 Fumble 6-6 2:15
NWLA 1st G26 07:06 Fumble G17 04:28 Downs 7-9 2:38
GSU 1st G17 04:28 Downs G42 01:35 Interception 7-25 2:53
NWLA 1st G37 01:35 Interception G27 00:16 Downs 5-10 1:19
GSU 1st G27 00:16 Downs G20 12:00 Downs 9--7 3:16
NWLA 2nd G20 12:00 Downs G00 11:01 * TOUCHDOWN 2-20 0:59

GSU 2nd G07 10:53 Kickoff G41 08:07 Punt 5-34 2:46
NWLA 2nd N22 08:07 Punt G00 06:03 * TOUCHDOWN 5-78 2:04
GSU 2nd G30 05:57 Kickoff G48 02:55 Punt 8-18 3:02
NWLA 2nd N20 02:55 Punt N37 01:57 Fumble 3-17 0:58
GSU 2nd N37 01:57 Fumble N37 01:57 * TOUCHDOWN 0-0 0:00
NWLA 2nd N45 01:55 Kickoff G25 00:08 Interception 6-30 1:47
GSU 2nd G20 00:08 Interception G20 00:00 End of half 0-0 0:08
GSU 3rd G13 14:30 Kickoff G38 12:26 Punt 5-25 2:04

NWLA 3rd N34 12:26 Punt N35 11:23 Interception 3-1 1:03
GSU 3rd N00 11:23 Interception N00 11:23 * TOUCHDOWN 0-0 0:00
NWLA 3rd N25 11:04 Kickoff N25 10:34 Interception 2-0 0:30
GSU 3rd N00 10:34 Interception N00 10:34 * TOUCHDOWN 0-0 0:00
NWLA 3rd N32 10:34 Kickoff G28 07:30 Fumble 8-40 3:04
GSU 3rd G28 07:30 Fumble G32 04:54 Missed FG 12-4 2:36
NWLA 3rd N32 04:54 Missed FG N28 02:50 Downs 4--4 2:04
GSU 3rd N28 02:50 Downs N13 00:37 * FIELD GOAL 8-15 2:13
NWLA 3rd N34 00:37 Kickoff N40 13:33 Punt 3-6 2:04
GSU 4th G15 13:33 Punt G16 12:48 Interception 2-1 0:45

NWLA 4th G43 12:48 Interception G10 12:48 * FIELD GOAL 9-33 0:00
GSU 4th G15 09:02 Kickoff N00 08:02 * TOUCHDOWN 3-85 1:00
NWLA 4th N28 07:54 Kickoff N43 06:13 Punt 5-15 1:41
GSU 4th G28 06:13 Punt N00 01:42 * TOUCHDOWN 10-72 4:31
NWLA 4th N40 01:38 Kickoff N40 01:26 Interception 1-0 0:12
GSU 4th G23 01:26 Interception G29 00:00 End of half 3-6 1:26

[MACHIAVELLI]

Score by Quarters 1 2 3 4 Score
----------------- -- -- -- -- -----
Northwestern State.. 0 14 0 3 - 17 Record: (0-2)
Grambling State..... 0 7 17 14 - 38 Record: (1-1)



Scoring Summary:
2nd 11:01 NWLA - Castille, Q. 3 yd run (Shaughnessy, J. kick), 2-20 0:59, NWLA 7 - GSU 0
06:03 NWLA - Griffin, W. 4 yd run (Shaughnessy, J. kick), 5-78 2:04, NWLA 14 - GSU 0
01:57 GSU - LENARD,Desmond 37 yd fumble recovery (JOHNSON,Ari kick), , NWLA 14 - GSU 7
3rd 11:23 GSU - COPELAND,Nigel 24 yd interception return (JOHNSON,Ari kick), , NWLA 14 - GSU 14
10:34 GSU - ANTHONY,Christi 25 yd interception return (JOHNSON,Ari kick), , NWLA 14 - GSU 21
00:37 GSU - JOHNSON,Ari 30 yd field goal, 8-15 2:13, NWLA 14 - GSU 24
4th 12:48 NWLA - Shaughnessy, J. 27 yd field goal, 9-33 0:00, NWLA 17 - GSU 24
08:02 GSU - PHILLIPS,Victor 0 yd fumble recovery (JOHNSON,Ari kick), 3-85 1:00, NWLA 17 - GSU 31
01:42 GSU - WALKER,Corneliu 5 yd run (JOHNSON,Ari kick), 10-72 4:31, NWLA 17 - GSU 38



NWLA GSU
FIRST DOWNS................... 15 20
RUSHES-YARDS (NET)............ 43-178 47-169
PASSING YDS (NET)............. 138 144
Passes Att-Comp-Int........... 29-13-4 31-18-2
TOTAL OFFENSE PLAYS-YARDS..... 72-316 78-313
Fumble Returns-Yards.......... 0-0 1-37
Punt Returns-Yards............ 1--4 0-0
Kickoff Returns-Yards......... 6--20 4-59
Interception Returns-Yards.... 2-22 4-49
Punts (Number-Avg)............ 2-32.0 3-32.3
Fumbles-Lost.................. 5-2 6-2
Penalties-Yards............... 7-61 11-156
Possession Time............... 25:26 34:34
Third-Down Conversions........ 1 of 12 7 of 17
Fourth-Down Conversions....... 1 of 4 1 of 2
Red-Zone Scores-Chances....... 2-4 3-3
Sacks By: Number-Yards........ 2-13 1-3

[SAME OLD G]

Makes it all the sweeter when Southern beats Grambling....:D

And no matter the outcome you are still a loser to the Grambling.

[SAME OLD G]

Congrats GSU on your win tonight, your team took advantage of all opportunities you created and came away with a nice win. I'm hopeful that this series can continue and next time have decent weather to play in (hurricane last year and a downpour this year!).

Thank you!

[MACHIAVELLI]

If you want to watch the game....
http://www.niftytv.com/gsutv/

[mikebigg]

Demons marching, but fumble. Grambling picks it up and runs it in for a TD. Now 14-7 Demons with 1:57 to go before the half.

Not really a fumble... db just took the ball and ran it in for a score.

[mikebigg]

Grambling's offense is not used to dealing with a legitimate D-Line. They won't see that in SWAC play and their offensive linemen are completely overwhelmed. Typical of a game against the SWAC where the O-lines are weak (per SWAC fans).

Would be nice if the Demons could disrupt the G-Men's nice home winning streak. Keep us updated...

Our offensive line is not weak... ask the Demons. We don't panic...Chris Anthony took over the game and started to dominate NWST's offensive line. We held them to 3 pts in the second half.

[blackcaesar3k5]

kudos on beating NW ST.. The ICON is back when it comes beating non-hbcu's..

[SUjagTILLiDIE]

Grambling's offense is not used to dealing with a legitimate D-Line. They won't see that in SWAC play and their offensive linemen are completely overwhelmed.A lie and It was the other way around TT xlolx .

[JohnStOnge]

The stats make it appear that turnovers certainly played a role in margin of victory but it was a very evenly played game physically that Grambling still might've won without a giveaway/takeaway advantage. And the giveaway/takeaway advantage wasn't THAT large. Both teams turned it over a lot (Northwestern State 6 times, Grambling4 times). Northwestern State had 316 yards and Grambling had 313.

Does look like either Grambling played well on pass defense or Northwestern State has a quarterback issue. 13 of 29 with 4 interceptions and 0 TDs isn't good.

[MACHIAVELLI]

SLC officials called this game.

[SU Jag]

Grambling's offense is not used to dealing with a legitimate D-Line. They won't see that in SWAC play and their offensive linemen are completely overwhelmed. Typical of a game against the SWAC where the O-lines are weak (per SWAC fans).

Would be nice if the Demons could disrupt the G-Men's nice home winning streak. Keep us updated...




xcoffeex

[TexasTerror]

Still too early to tell, I suspect the new coaching staff is struggling a bit to get their system to bite. The telling tale is whether we start to get better as the season goes on. North Dakota will be tough next week, Baylor will be nearly impossible to beat with the way they are playing, we will likely be 0-4 or at best 1-3 if we beat North Dakota going into Southland play. So we have 2 games to start turning things around.

That's a rough start to the season.

The SLC title could still be at play for the Demons, but there's plenty of work to be done, especially at the QB position, if NWST wants to be able to compete this year.

This is just one game. Can't count the UH game, especially since we've seen what they can do. The UND game will be a huge contest for your squad as they move forward, especially with the PEVETO PROMISE in place.

[Mr. Tiger]

Great win for Grambling. xthumbsupx

[Frosty The Snowbuff]

The stats make it appear that turnovers certainly played a role in margin of victory but it was a very evenly played game physically that Grambling still might've won without a giveaway/takeaway advantage. And the giveaway/takeaway advantage wasn't THAT large. Both teams turned it over a lot (Northwestern State 6 times, Grambling4 times). Northwestern State had 316 yards and Grambling had 313.

Does look like either Grambling played well on pass defense or Northwestern State has a quarterback issue. 13 of 29 with 4 interceptions and 0 TDs isn't good.

Fact of the matter.....Grambling scored TD's on out Turnovers.....xnodx

We....well.....didn't....xsmhx

[Frosty The Snowbuff]

kudos on beating NW ST.. The ICON is back when it comes beating non-hbcu's..

At home xnodx

[813Jag]

Sounds like the G-Men did what they had to. Most of the responses in here are just what I suspected. xreadx

[Frosty The Snowbuff]

Sounds like the G-Men did what they had to. Most of the responses in here are just what I suspected. xreadx

They did what they should have done last year.....Won da game....xnodx

As for my responses....I just like picking on Grambling fans.....nothing new...since me, my cousin, and my uncle (The latter 2 went to Southern) are the only Southern fans in our fam...

......Imagine the "abuse" I'm going through right now xlolxxlolxxlolx

I NEEDS a Jaguar win this year....

[NSUDemon98]

or Northwestern State has a quarterback issue. 13 of 29 with 4 interceptions and 0 TDs isn't good.

Yes. xeekx

[datruth4u]

SLC officials called this game.

Not entirely true....Majority Big 12 and one SLC official...

[TexasTerror]

Not entirely true....Majority Big 12 and one SLC official...

Big 12 officials ARE Southland officials.

We have an agreement with them and they are completely interchangeable. The SLC was the first FCS conference to do such an agreement with a major league and since, several others have followed suit...

Our head of officiating is the #2 official for Big 12 football.

[NSUDemon98]

I don't have an ounce of hate in my body. there is nothing that I hate. takes up too much time and energy to hate.

You sure are contradicting yourself:

"Grambling blewout Northwestern 38-17 with 1:46 left to go. any of Peveto's excitement left?"

"You people need to take that crap back to your own pathetic board. I could care less what happens to NSU. I am not an NSU fan nor am I one that cares about any other team in the conference. I care only about 1 team and NSU is not it. I don't give a rats ass about NSU's misfortunes. go tell Peveto about it. you 2 sure as hell don't take up for McNeese when people over at your dump start knocking McNeese about a home playoff loss or anything else so don't expect anyone here to have sympathy because your football team lost by 21. to a SWAC school at that."

That sure is a lot of bitter talk and "not caring" as you put it, about NSU.

[datruth4u]

Big 12 officials ARE Southland officials.

We have an agreement with them and they are completely interchangeable. The SLC was the first FCS conference to do such an agreement with a major league and since, several others have followed suit...

Our head of officiating is the #2 official for Big 12 football.

Well prior to the game, I spoke with the rep from the southland conference who was their to evaluate the officiating...Their were two big 12 officials and one southland official...IF what you say is true, there shouldn't be a reason to seperate the two right?

[TexasTerror]

Well prior to the game, I spoke with the rep from the southland conference who was their to evaluate the officiating...Their were two big 12 officials and one southland official...IF what you say is true, there shouldn't be a reason to seperate the two right?

Of course, what I say is true. It's been talked about on this board in the past and has been emulated by other conferences. While there are "Big 12 officials" and "SLC officials", ultimately - they are from the same pool, attend the same officiating workshops and get ripped one by Walt Anderson (NFL official, SHSU alum and Big 12 head of officiating) - when need be. I've seen SLC officials work 'up' and Big 12 officials 'work down'.

Speaking of 'true' - when is Grambling going to update their athletic web site? Or are my links old? Time to deal with cookies? Was trying to get some info and all I see is stuff from May.

[datruth4u]

Of course, what I say is true. It's been talked about on this board in the past and has been emulated by other conferences. While there are "Big 12 officials" and "SLC officials", ultimately - they are from the same pool, attend the same officiating workshops and get ripped one by Walt Anderson (NFL official, SHSU alum and Big 12 head of officiating) - when need be. I've seen SLC officials work 'up' and Big 12 officials 'work down'.

Speaking of 'true' - when is Grambling going to update their athletic web site? Or are my links old? Time to deal with cookies? Was trying to get some info and all I see is stuff from May.

SMH...xcoffeexxcoffeexxcoffeex

[inpsite1919]

Good Win Grambling! Makes SCSU win over you guys so much better!!!!!!

[TexasTerror]

SMH...xcoffeexxcoffeexxcoffeex

Hey, all you had to do was provide me with the new link...was it that hard? Or do you not frequent the web site of your alma mater to provide such an answer? When will "da truth" come out? xnonono2x

http://www.gsutigers.com/index.aspx?skip=true

[gram4life]

Hey, all you had to do was provide me with the new link...was it that hard? Or do you not frequent the web site of your alma mater to provide such an answer? When will "da truth" come out? xnonono2x

http://www.gsutigers.com/index.aspx?skip=true

Typical coming from you.

[3rd Coast Tiger]

Congrats on the win G-Men! xthumbsupx

[TexasTerror]

Typical coming from you.

Helping a Grambling fan out by providing a link to their web site. The link I had was outdated. da truth could not even provide da answer. xnonox

[MACHIAVELLI]

At home xnodx

We have beaten non-HBCU's on the road.

[TexasTerror]

We have beaten non-HBCU's on the road.

Not since 2001, though part of that is because a large portion of those non-HBCUs are FBS... xreadx

[MACHIAVELLI]

Not since 2001, though part of that is because a large portion of those non-HBCUs are FBS... xreadx

How long it has been is not the question. The fact that we have been some on the road is. Stay focused. Have you started denouncing the ICONs win vs NwSU yet? Have you started the NwSU is not a good team...yet? I know its coming.

[TexasTerror]

How long it has been is not the question. The fact that we have been some on the road is. Stay focused. Have you started denouncing the ICONs win vs NwSU yet? Have you started the NwSU is not a good team...yet? I know its coming.

NWST has a quarterback quandry...they are going to have to check all their options. If the Demons are going to compete, they'll need better results behind center (see SFA).

Now, Mach. Two questions...perhaps you can provide 'da truth', since he is not willing to provide answers himself.

1) Were there really 75,000 people at the NWST-Grambling gme (http://www.gsutigers.com/custompages/Football/2008/gsu0912.htm)

2) And why does Grambling athletics put out a release calling it their 500th win, when TDR already proved it to be incorrect? (http://www.gsutigers.com/news/2009/9/14/FB_0914090928.aspx)

[MACHIAVELLI]

NWST has a quarterback quandry...they are going to have to check all their options. If the Demons are going to compete, they'll need better results behind center (see SFA).

Now, Mach. Two questions...perhaps you can provide 'da truth', since he is not willing to provide answers himself.

1) Were there really 75,000 people at the NWST-Grambling gme (http://www.gsutigers.com/custompages/Football/2008/gsu0912.htm)

2) And why does Grambling athletics put out a release calling it their 500th win, when TDR already proved it to be incorrect? (http://www.gsutigers.com/news/2009/9/14/FB_0914090928.aspx)

1. No. It was a typo. 7,543 was the attendance from what I was told.
2. Send an email to [email protected] he can answer that for you.

[813Jag]

They did what they should have done last year.....Won da game....xnodx

As for my responses....I just like picking on Grambling fans.....nothing new...since me, my cousin, and my uncle (The latter 2 went to Southern) are the only Southern fans in our fam...

......Imagine the "abuse" I'm going through right now xlolxxlolxxlolx

I NEEDS a Jaguar win this year....

my commenT wasn'T directed at you. xpeacex

[SUjagTILLiDIE]

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[SUjagTILLiDIE]

TT xlolx Look at Anthony go thru 4 people and SUper SUplex the RB xnodx. Anthony is the best FCS D-Linemen. Dude had 2 INT's which both were turned into TD's, a fumble recovery, and this xlolx

http://b.static.ak.fbcdn.net/rsrc.php/zAH44/hash/1uvvxs1m.swf?v=523394037980&ev=0

[cajundemon]

NWST has a quarterback quandry...they are going to have to check all their options. If the Demons are going to compete, they'll need better results behind center (see SFA).

Very much in agreement with you there...Cannot win with Hundley. Humiliating loss after much hyped off-season. Great job by the Kats repping the conference.

[mikebigg]

Grambling is not responsible for whatever qb issues Northwestern has... we played and beat the guys you brought with you. Were we suppose to provide you with players? Yall had Tyler Wolfe to transfer in from L'ville...why didn't yall get him in the game?

[McNeese75]

TT xlolx Look at Anthony go thru 4 people and SUper SUplex the RB xnodx. Anthony is the best SWAC D-Linemen. Dude had 2 INT's which both were turned into TD's, a fumble recovery, and this xlolx

http://b.static.ak.fbcdn.net/rsrc.php/zAH44/hash/1uvvxs1m.swf?v=523394037980&ev=0

There, I fixed it for ya xlolx

Reps to the Tigers for the Victory!!! As they say, a W is a W

[cajundemon]

Grambling is not responsible for whatever qb issues Northwestern has... we played and beat the guys you brought with you. Were we suppose to provide you with players? Yall had Tyler Wolfe to transfer in from L'ville...why didn't yall get him in the game?

Tyler Wolfe has a torn meniscus. For now we are stuck with Hundley, until he gives another game away then Paul Harris a true frosh will need to step in...

[datruth4u]

Hey, all you had to do was provide me with the new link...was it that hard? Or do you not frequent the web site of your alma mater to provide such an answer? When will "da truth" come out? xnonono2x

http://www.gsutigers.com/index.aspx?skip=true


If da truth comes out...I will more than likely be banned from this board and every ounce of class that I do have, will be gone...So I'll take the high road and smh....xcoffeexxcoffeexxcoffeexxcoffeexxcoffeex

[mikebigg]

Tyler Wolfe has a torn meniscus. For now we are stuck with Hundley, until he gives another game away then Paul Harris a true frosh will need to step in...

It seems that most of you fail to give Grambling due credit for winning the game.

Well good luck with the rest of the season...

[FormerPokeCenter]

Props to Grambling for upsetting Northwestern. Big props...


I wonder what the reaction from Northwestern Fans would have been had Stoker been the one to drop the last two games???

To my Northwestern frriends, you understand that I don't have anything against Bradley Dale Peveto, you all understand that I just still think Stoker got a raw deal, right?

[NSUDemon98]

It seems that most of you fail to give Grambling due credit for winning the game.

Well good luck with the rest of the season...

You won't find anyone denying that Grambling won...but there were circumstances not credited to Grambling that had a factor in the outcome of the game.

We are not going to agree on how/why the game played out...good luck the rest of the season.

[mikebigg]

Good luck to you guys as well... I hope to play you guys again real soon. Also would like to see McNeese on the schedule as well as SFA and UCA due to proximity. Selfishly (my personal driving distance), I would like to see Southeastern on the schedule since I live in BR.

[UCABEARS75]

Good luck to you guys as well... I hope to play you guys again real soon. Also would like to see McNeese on the schedule as well as SFA and UCA due to proximity. Selfishly (my personal driving distance), I would like to see Southeastern on the schedule since I live in BR.

I would love to see a contract signed for a series of games between Grambling and UCA. That would be cool.

[Dallas Demon]

It seems that most of you fail to give Grambling due credit for winning the game.

Well good luck with the rest of the season...

Good teams find ways to win. Grambling figured out how to do this, we didn't. Credit the Tigers, we hope to prove your victory something to turn heads by the end of the year if we can turn things around.

[mikebigg]

I would love to see a contract signed for a series of games between Grambling and UCA. That would be cool.

I've been watching you guys...that's a helluva program yall got up there in Conway. I think it would be good for the region to play those games... the Northwestern visitors side was thin, but that's somewhat attributed to the weather. Once the fans become more familiar with playing each other, and the rivalry grows with SLC opponents, the attendace will grow.

[UCABEARS75]

I've been watching you guys...that's a helluva program yall got up there in Conway. I think it would be good for the region to play those games... the Northwestern visitors side was thin, but that's somewhat attributed to the weather. Once the fans become more familiar with playing each other, and the rivalry grows with SLC opponents, the attendace will grow.

Thanks.

Now more than ever in these economic times it makes sense to schedule games within easy driving distance. Our fans are beginning to travel better with the move to D-1AA. We probably took 1500-2000 to La. Tech a few years ago and 2000 or more to Tulsa last year. I think they would respond with a chance to travel to Grambling.

I think games between SLC and SWAC teams make sense although our various attempts to work things out with UAPB have not gone well. However, their overall athletic program is in shambles and I strongly believe a series with Grambling would be very successful. In fact, I am going to make a call today to our AD to get his thoughts.

[mikebigg]

Thanks.

Now more than ever in these economic times it makes sense to schedule games within easy driving distance. Our fans are beginning to travel better with the move to D-1AA. We probably took 1500-2000 to La. Tech a few years ago and 2000 or more to Tulsa last year. I think they would respond with a chance to travel to Grambling.

I think games between SLC and SWAC teams make sense although our various attempts to work things out with UAPB have not gone well. However, their overall athletic program is in shambles and I strongly believe a series with Grambling would be very successful. In fact, I am going to make a call today to our AD to get his thoughts.

Especially with the 9 game mandate in our league, our fans need to see a more diverse schedule. I'm not too familiar with your geographical location, but I do know that we have lots of students and alums from Arkansas.

[UCABEARS75]

Especially with the 9 game mandate in our league, our fans need to see a more diverse schedule. I'm not too familiar with your geographical location, but I do know that we have lots of students and alums from Arkansas.

30 miles west of Little Rock on I-40.

I believe we would be receptive to playing in War Memorial Stadium in Little Rock should anticipated attendance justify it. I believe ya'll have played UAPB there recently.

p.s. Just placed a call to our AD. He said he has put out feelers to ya'll and has heard nothing.

He agreed that a series would make sense and would love to hear from you AD so if you have his ear......he further agreed that the game in Little Rock might make sense.

[mikebigg]

30 miles west of Little Rock on I-40.

I believe we would be receptive to playing in War Memorial Stadium in Little Rock should anticipated attendance justify it. I believe ya'll have played UAPB there recently.

p.s. Just placed a call to our AD. He said he has put out feelers to ya'll and has heard nothing.

He agreed that a series would make sense and would love to hear from you AD so if you have his ear......he further agreed that the game in Little Rock might make sense.

No I don't (have his ear) but I will pass it by some folk that does. Thanks for the feedback...I think it would be a good deal. We definitely need more home games and you guys might be a good fit.

[UCABEARS75]

No I don't (have his ear) but I will pass it by some folk that does. Thanks for the feedback...I think it would be a good deal. We definitely need more home games and you guys might be a good fit.

Home and home series close enough for both fan bases to attend, gotta want that.

[Frosty The Snowbuff]

We have beaten non-HBCU's on the road.

I know this...xnodx

I was semi-hinting at the fact that yall didn't beat us at Turpin (A game yall SHOULD have won.....and bascially did....except on the scoreboard...)

Doesn't surprise me one bit that yall beat us....Just the way it happened....

I mean....who knew yalls DE could play "Pass Defense" better than yall secondary...xlolxxlolx

[Frosty The Snowbuff]

my commenT wasn'T directed at you. xpeacex

I know....just sayin' xpeacex

STILL needs a Jaguar win though...

[Frosty The Snowbuff]

Props to Grambling for upsetting Northwestern. Big props...


I wonder what the reaction from Northwestern Fans would have been had Stoker been the one to drop the last two games???

To my Northwestern frriends, you understand that I don't have anything against Bradley Dale Peveto, you all understand that I just still think Stoker got a raw deal, right?

Could you elaborate on this one??? Or would I be beating a dead horse???

I'm curious...

[McNeeserocket]

It seems that most of you fail to give Grambling due credit for winning the game.

Well good luck with the rest of the season...

Hi Mike. I hope you remember me. You and I bantered back and forth through emails back in 2003 and 2004 (friendly and respective banter).

I want to congratulate Grambling on a nice win against one of our biggest rivals. I know most McNeese fans have nothing but respect for Grambling and certainly acknowledge the long and storied program you guys have. Many of fans are very hopeful that we can get Grambling back on our football schedule sooner than later.

It is a shame that some fans have such tunnel vision that they can't just accept defeat or winning gracefully. However, I believe the more games that are contested between the Southland schools and the SWAC schools; the more a mutual respect will develop.xpeacex

[FormerPokeCenter]

Sure....I'll elaborate.

Stoker was ultimately let go because of his record...while simultanteously being asked to schedule and play money games you had no chance of winning, all in the name of taking one for the Three Columned Empire's financial bottom line...

At the same time, despite making gobs of money for the Demon athletic department, he wasn't fully funded and was hamstrung by an inability to hire a very much needed position coach, sometimes two of them. You guys were NEVER fully staffed.

Then, immediately upon terminating him. you pay the incoming head coach MORE, fully fund him and let him pay the assistant coaches MORE...

With the influx of transfers, this is clearly Bradley Dale Peveto's team, but the OOC results are very similar, yet there's no hue and cry to get rid of him.

How is it that Stoker's record is what did him in, but he was asked to voluntarily take two and sometimes three automatic losses per year?

Remember, nobody played more FBS / BCS teams than Northwestern between 2003-2008...

You do everything you're asked, including operating with a less than optimal budget and you get terminated for doing so, then the next guy gets carte blanche, and starts off 0-2 without any cries for his head....

Not exactly consistent treatment, no?

[mikebigg]

Hi Mike. I hope you remember me. You and I bantered back and forth through emails back in 2003 and 2004 (friendly and respective banter).

I want to congratulate Grambling on a nice win against one of our biggest rivals. I know most McNeese fans have nothing but respect for Grambling and certainly acknowledge the long and storied program you guys have. Many of fans are very hopeful that we can get Grambling back on our football schedule sooner than later.

It is a shame that some fans have such tunnel vision that they can't just accept defeat or winning gracefully. However, I believe the more games that are contested between the Southland schools and the SWAC schools; the more a mutual respect will develop.xpeacex

I agree and that's why I didn't like going back to the nine game mandate...I think these games could develop into some classic matchups and generate excitement. Maybe not every year (damn the mandate) siince I'd like to see us play other Southland foes as well.

[NSUDemon98]

With the influx of transfers, this is clearly Bradley Dale Peveto's team, but the OOC results are very similar, yet there's no hue and cry to get rid of him.

I wouldn't call it BDP's team exactly...we had 2 FBS transfers in 2007, Stoker brought in more to make the number 9 and to help in the W-L column and now we are up to 14 FBS transfers. So technically BDP only brought in 5 under his regime.

[SU Jag]

All ther more reason to hate that damn mandate!xnonono2x

[Panther88]

I'm for the 9-game mandate as voted upon by our 10 presidents. And I certainly stand behind my president in a united front. :D

1-2 OOC games is sufficient. Go find others to help fill your stadium and generate a "nice" payday. :D

[NSUDemon98]

I'm for the 9-game mandate as voted upon by our 10 presidents. And I certainly stand behind my president in a united front. :D

1-2 OOC games is sufficient. Go find others to help fill your stadium and generate a "nice" payday. :D

The gates weren't flooded with Jackson St., Texas Southern and Grambling fans when we played...Southern, yes...but the others, hardly.

[MsippiRattler]

I'm for the 9-game mandate as voted upon by our 10 presidents. And I certainly stand behind my president in a united front. :D

1-2 OOC games is sufficient. Go find others to help fill your stadium and generate a "nice" payday. :D


Panther88,

I'm assuming you're a Prarie View fan and I am not smacking. But it seems to me that you would want to get rid of the 9-game mandate so that you would be able to schedule more out-of-conference games with the SLC, OVC, and MVFC (not to mention getting screwed by fellow conference members who won't assist you developing a full schedule). That way you would be able to become more competitive and gain better credility as a program. And you would open more opportunities for FBS payday.

Most of us MEAC fans are highly pissed about having a 9-game mandate. For FAMU, a 7-game mandate would free us up to complete our contracts with Ala St and Southern Univ (and continue the series w/SU), alllow us to schedule a series with a Socon/CAA program, continues our series w/Tenn St, and allow for yearly FBS paydays. We have games scheduled w/UMiami for 2009 and 2010. And, we have been contacted by Georgia, Florida, and the Univ So FL for games out to 2014, but can't get scheduled due to this danged mandate!xmadx

[SU Jag]

The mandate is the worst thing ever! I hate it. I would love to see us go out and play some nice OCC games. The mandate kills any chances of that.

[Dallas Demon]

Sure....I'll elaborate.

Stoker was ultimately let go because of his record...while simultanteously being asked to schedule and play money games you had no chance of winning, all in the name of taking one for the Three Columned Empire's financial bottom line...

At the same time, despite making gobs of money for the Demon athletic department, he wasn't fully funded and was hamstrung by an inability to hire a very much needed position coach, sometimes two of them. You guys were NEVER fully staffed.

Then, immediately upon terminating him. you pay the incoming head coach MORE, fully fund him and let him pay the assistant coaches MORE...

With the influx of transfers, this is clearly Bradley Dale Peveto's team, but the OOC results are very similar, yet there's no hue and cry to get rid of him.

How is it that Stoker's record is what did him in, but he was asked to voluntarily take two and sometimes three automatic losses per year?

Remember, nobody played more FBS / BCS teams than Northwestern between 2003-2008...

You do everything you're asked, including operating with a less than optimal budget and you get terminated for doing so, then the next guy gets carte blanche, and starts off 0-2 without any cries for his head....

Not exactly consistent treatment, no?

As an out-of-towner, I can comment on what I heard from the general crowd when I went back to Natchitoches for the games. Stoker's record was not the reason he was fired, it simply made it easier to make it happen. Stoker was an X and O's type of guy, and did very little to befriend most at the university or in the city (I'm just summarizing what I heard). When you look at it, Goodwin had similar records over the years with an occasional really good year. But he was extremely well-liked by most at the university and in the town, so he survived 17 years as the head coach before he retired.

Bottom line with coaching or with any job, you can get more mileage out of being average if you are well-liked vs. being average and not well-liked. That was Stoker's ultimate undoing. xreadx

[SUjagTILLiDIE]

The mandate is the worst thing ever! I hate it. I would love to see us go out and play some nice OCC games. The mandate kills any chances of that.

I like the mandate. I would much rather play AAMU and Valley, than Central State, and FVSU. A perfect SU OC schedule would consist on Famu and Tenn St. xthumbsupx . A opponent our fans want to see, a opponent that our fans are familar with and a opponent that will bring fans and a good band.

[MsippiRattler]

I like the mandate. I would much rather play AAMU and Valley, than Central State, and FVSU. A perfect SU OC schedule would consist on Famu and Tenn St. xthumbsupx . A opponent our fans want to see, a opponent that our fans are familar with and a opponent that will bring fans and a good band.

SUjagTILLiDie,

I would think that SU would rather play a seven-game mandate, which would allow you to more easily schedule in-state SLC teams thereby increasing the odds for sellouts at MUMFORD. You could also schedule some of the Texas SLC teams. All of which would contribute to your bottom line, not to mention improving your GPI and RPI, and becoming more competitive whereby you increase your athletic credibility.

[813Jag]

SUjagTILLiDie,

I would think that SU would rather play a seven-game mandate, which would allow you to more easily schedule in-state SLC teams thereby increasing the odds for sellouts at MUMFORD. You could also schedule some of the Texas SLC teams. All of which would contribute to your bottom line, not to mention improving your GPI and RPI, and becoming more competitive whereby you increase your athletic credibility.
I agree, I have no desire to see Southern play Valley. You make one trip to Itta Bena you made 100. xlolx I'd be happy with this year's schedule if FAMU was in the place of Central St.

[Panther88]

SUjagTILLiDie,

I would think that SU would rather play a seven-game mandate, which would allow you to more easily schedule in-state SLC teams thereby increasing the odds for sellouts at MUMFORD. You could also schedule some of the Texas SLC teams. All of which would contribute to your bottom line, not to mention improving your GPI and RPI, and becoming more competitive whereby you increase your athletic credibility.

Can't speak for others but WE TRUE Panthers could care the hell L-E-S-S about "outsiders" validating us. They're insignificant and that's how we view them, insignificant and totally unnecessary. :D

Right now, what I care one way or the other doesn't really matter in the grand scheme excepting for some rhetorical internet banter. My president has spoken and the other 9 SWAC presidents have spoken where I have no choice but to agree w/ what they've stipulated and help make it "better." Our goal is NOT the playoff system. Our goal is to win the SWAC West and THEN to win the SWAC Football Championship. Period. Anything else is.... rhetoric and I won't stand w/ "outsiders" and bash what we have in place. I'm one w/ ours, not =======> them. ;)

[Panther88]

Panther88,

I'm assuming you're a Prarie View fan and I am not smacking. But it seems to me that you would want to get rid of the 9-game mandate so that you would be able to schedule more out-of-conference games with the SLC, OVC, and MVFC (not to mention getting screwed by fellow conference members who won't assist you developing a full schedule). That way you would be able to become more competitive and gain better credility as a program. And you would open more opportunities for FBS payday.

Most of us MEAC fans are highly pissed about having a 9-game mandate. For FAMU, a 7-game mandate would free us up to complete our contracts with Ala St and Southern Univ (and continue the series w/SU), alllow us to schedule a series with a Socon/CAA program, continues our series w/Tenn St, and allow for yearly FBS paydays. We have games scheduled w/UMiami for 2009 and 2010. And, we have been contacted by Georgia, Florida, and the Univ So FL for games out to 2014, but can't get scheduled due to this danged mandate!xmadx

Credibility from whom MissRattler? For what? And what purpose do the "credibiliters" lol serve regarding PVAMU?

We don't seek validation from any entity outside of what we have in place. Others should learn that. It's like you're living for them or something. That's pretty stupid IMO.

[FormerPokeCenter]

The gates weren't flooded with Jackson St., Texas Southern and Grambling fans when we played...Southern, yes...but the others, hardly.

Yes, but to be fair, you guys played Grambling at your place on a Sunday, no?

[NSUDemon98]

Yes, but to be fair, you guys played Grambling at your place on a Sunday, no?

Yes, right after the Hurricane...but this past Saturday I was at the game in Grambling and, IMO, 7,500 is an over-estimation. On my way home I was on the phone with DallasDemon and before I even saw game statistics I was estimating around 5,000 fans in attendance. It was raining but it was more of a nuisance than a rain storm.

[mikebigg]

I think the attendance would increase with an increase in frequency of matchups. I think a potential rivalry could develop, if we played more. Even if not every year, but occassionally.

[SUjagTILLiDIE]

SUjagTILLiDie,

I would think that SU would rather play a seven-game mandate, which would allow you to more easily schedule in-state SLC teams thereby increasing the odds for sellouts at MUMFORD. You could also schedule some of the Texas SLC teams. All of which would contribute to your bottom line, not to mention improving your GPI and RPI, and becoming more competitive whereby you increase your athletic credibility.

SU fans dont want to see SLC teams, we have a totally different view of things than you meac folks. Our fans want a big named HBCU with a good band, or a big named FBS school. If our administration would leave our fans alone, we would have sell outs everyweek. Sometimes it seems they are trying to run folks away with all of these rules.

[SUjagTILLiDIE]

I think the attendance would increase with an increase in frequency of matchups. I think a potential rivalry could develop, if we played more. Even if not every year, but occassionally.

In theory it sounds good, but evidently your fans or their fans arent interested in the matchup when you look at the attendence numbers.

[Dallas Demon]

I think the attendance would increase with an increase in frequency of matchups. I think a potential rivalry could develop, if we played more. Even if not every year, but occassionally.

I agree. If you remember back in 1974 we had 40,000+ in Shreveport to watch Northwestern/Grambling. It is unfortunate that we had the hurricane from last year and the terrible weather this year. For example, I go to most of the games and never thought I would miss the game at Grambling this year, but the drive from Dallas to the game and then back late at night in the rain just wasn't a smart move, especially with my son and his friend. So we ended up cancelling at the last minute.

[mikebigg]

In theory it sounds good, but evidently your fans or their fans arent interested in the matchup when you look at the attendence numbers.

The fans in North La would prefer playing in-state schools, especially as opposed to teams like Langston and Concordia (recent year) non-conference oppoenents. All we gain from those type matchups are padded stats...

I think the NSWT game crowd would have been larger as the tailgate attendance was up prior to the game. Once the rain became obvious, folks (at the tailgate) stayed under their covered area and listened to the game on radio... Some might have even had their laptops and watched it via the internet.

I'm a proponent of playing top FCS schools and/or conference members. That includes SC State, FAMU, Hampton, McNeese, UCenArk, etc.