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I Bleed Purple
September 6th, 2009, 04:16 AM
Biggest threat seemingly to Trevyn Smith's unprecedented fourth Big Sky rushing title is Chase Reynolds.

After the first game, EWU's Taiwan Jones heads the list at 122 yards, though he won't contend. Terrance Dailey may for Sac St., so he's the other running back to watch for.

1 game in:

Jones-EWU: 122
Dailey-CSUS: 101
Reynolds-UM: 100
Smith-WSU: 97

Interesting start.

Screamin_Eagle174
September 6th, 2009, 05:02 AM
Biggest threat seemingly to Trevyn Smith's unprecedented fourth Big Sky rushing title is Chase Reynolds.

After the first game, EWU's Taiwan Jones heads the list at 122 yards, though he won't contend. Terrance Dailey may for Sac St., so he's the other running back to watch for.

1 game in:

Jones-EWU: 122
Dailey-CSUS: 101
Reynolds-UM: 100
Smith-WSU: 97

Interesting start.

We'll see about that. Our O-line played horrible today, but if they can get their blocks and open up holes more consistently, Jones will take it. Once he gets loose, he's unstoppable; raw athleticism and wicked speed. At 6'1, he's a big boy to take down too.

Ronbo
September 6th, 2009, 08:08 AM
Smith could possibly run away with it this year. Chase will only get 18-20 touches a game as we have a real stable of RB's this season. The coaches will be resting Chase alot through the first half of the season.

Our depth chart
Junior Chase Reynolds
Senior Thomas Brooks Fletcher - Very good back at 5'10" 210 lbs, good vision, good power.
Sophmore Dan Moore - Big, powerful back with decent speed, 5'11" 225. Reminds me of Smith. Junior USA weightlifting team member.
Freshman Peter Nguyen - 5'9" 175, Shifty, great field vision, quick with lot's of juke. One poster on eGriz stated after seeing Peter on Saturday. Thank God EWU, Portland State, or any other Big Sky team didn't get this guy, he's awesome. Runs 4.4 forty.

These RB's will all see time and Chase will not be counted on as much as last year.

grizzpaw
September 6th, 2009, 08:16 AM
i think in the end, smith (barring injury) will win this xbowx, just so no montana player does, he HATES us xcoolx!

Screamin_Eagle174
September 7th, 2009, 03:16 PM
Let's put all the stats out there:

Jones-EWU: 122 yds on 12 carries, 2 TDs, long of 87, 10.2 yds avg.
Dailey-CSUS: 101 yds on 19 carries, 0 TDs, long of 14, 5.3 yds avg.
Reynolds-UM: 100 yds on 18 carries, 1 TD, long of 20, 5.6 yds avg.
Smith-WSU: 97 yds on 14 carries, 0 TDs, long of 49, 6.9 yds avg.

Green Laser
September 7th, 2009, 03:39 PM
Let's put all the stats out there:

Jones-EWU: 122 yds on 12 carries, 2 TDs, long of 87, 10.2 yds avg.
Dailey-CSUS: 101 yds on 19 carries, 0 TDs, long of 14, 5.3 yds avg.
Reynolds-UM: 100 yds on 18 carries, 1 TD, long of 20, 5.6 yds avg.
Smith-WSU: 97 yds on 14 carries, 0 TDs, long of 49, 6.9 yds avg.

Of course Jones and Reynolds were running against Division II teams while Dailey and Smith were against FBS teams.

Screamin_Eagle174
September 7th, 2009, 03:50 PM
Of course Jones and Reynolds were running against Division II teams while Dailey and Smith were against FBS teams.

Definitely. It will interesting to see what Jones does against Cal this weekend.

GOKATS
September 7th, 2009, 04:14 PM
Let's put all the stats out there:

Jones-EWU: 122 yds on 12 carries, 2 TDs, long of 87, 10.2 yds avg.
Dailey-CSUS: 101 yds on 19 carries, 0 TDs, long of 14, 5.3 yds avg.
Reynolds-UM: 100 yds on 18 carries, 1 TD, long of 20, 5.6 yds avg.
Smith-WSU: 97 yds on 14 carries, 0 TDs, long of 49, 6.9 yds avg.

I realize that all the yards count, but Jones got most of his on one carry- take away that run and he was 11/35, 3.2 yds. avg. against a DII team. Smith got over half his on one carry- take away that run and he was 13/48, 3.7 yds. avg. against an FBS team. Just saying.........

Screamin_Eagle174
September 7th, 2009, 04:22 PM
I realize that all the yards count, but Jones got most of his on one carry- take away that run and he was 11/35, 3.2 yds. avg. against a DII team. Smith got over half his on one carry- take away that run and he was 13/48, 3.7 yds. avg. against an FBS team. Just saying.........

I realize all points scored count, but all MSU's points against Michigan State came on a FG... you take away that FG, and MSU got shut out. Just saying...... xcoffeex

GOKATS
September 7th, 2009, 04:26 PM
I realize all points scored count, but all MSU's points against Michigan State came on a FG... you take away that FG, and MSU got shut out. Just saying...... xcoffeex

Which has absolutely nothing to do with this thread.xoopsx You seem hell bent on posting stats, I was just demonstrating that if you're going to base things on stats that they should be analyzed a bit, especially when it comes to things like avg. yds./ gain.

Screamin_Eagle174
September 7th, 2009, 04:29 PM
Which has absolutely nothing to do with this thread.xoopsx You seem hell bent on posting stats, I was just demonstrating that if you're going to base things on stats that they should be analyzed a bit, especially when it comes to things like avg. yds./ gain.

I was simply using your logic, which is completely moot. Technically, the only pertinent stat for the title of this thread is rushing yards. In which case Jones is currently the leader.

kalm
September 7th, 2009, 05:41 PM
Jones has a lot to prove before even being a part of the conversation. And with some inexperience on the line, the other weapons on offense, and the possible need to win thru shootouts, I don't see him getting the touches. I hope Smith gets it, that would be a cool accomplishment.

I Bleed Purple
September 7th, 2009, 09:10 PM
Screamin, EWU does not run an offense conducive to racking up enough yards to win a title. Jones will get, what, 15 carries in a game max? Smith will average 22-23 carries once FCS season starts.

The depth at UM is interesting. Might make four straight more likely.

Grizo406
September 7th, 2009, 09:48 PM
Smith could possibly run away with it this year. Chase will only get 18-20 touches a game as we have a real stable of RB's this season. The coaches will be resting Chase alot through the first half of the season.

Our depth chart
Junior Chase Reynolds
Senior Thomas Brooks Fletcher - Very good back at 5'10" 210 lbs, good vision, good power.
Sophmore Dan Moore - Big, powerful back with decent speed, 5'11" 225. Reminds me of Smith. Junior USA weightlifting team member.
Freshman Peter Nguyen - 5'9" 175, Shifty, great field vision, quick with lot's of juke. One poster on eGriz stated after seeing Peter on Saturday. Thank God EWU, Portland State, or any other Big Sky team didn't get this guy, he's awesome. Runs 4.4 forty.

These RB's will all see time and Chase will not be counted on as much as last year.


Pretty good assessment, Ronbo, but TBF is 5' 10", and Peter Nguyen is 5' 9" like I'm 6' 10"!

I'm not sure how tall TBF is, but I know he ain't 5' 10", and Nguyen comes to just about chin level on me...and I'm 5' 10".

catbob
September 7th, 2009, 10:56 PM
I was simply using your logic, which is completely moot. Technically, the only pertinent stat for the title of this thread is rushing yards. In which case Jones is currently the leader.

Then why did you "put all the stats out there"?

Screamin_Eagle174
September 7th, 2009, 11:02 PM
Then why did you "put all the stats out there"?

For schnitz and giggles.

Ronbo
September 8th, 2009, 12:22 AM
Pretty good assessment, Ronbo, but TBF is 5' 10", and Peter Nguyen is 5' 9" like I'm 6' 10"!

I'm not sure how tall TBF is, but I know he ain't 5' 10", and Nguyen comes to just about chin level on me...and I'm 5' 10".

Sorry I looked up Peter. I missed by an inch.
28 Nguyen, Peter FR RB 5'8" 175 Bellevue, Wash. Bellevue HS
24 Brooks-Fletcher, Thomas SR RB 5'10" 210 Bellevue, Wash. Interlake HS

You have a two inch head????????

CopperCat
September 8th, 2009, 10:10 AM
I was simply using your logic, which is completely moot. Technically, the only pertinent stat for the title of this thread is rushing yards. In which case Jones is currently the leader.

EXACTLY you bonehead! Yet you still felt the need to trash MSU for no reason at all. Grow up.

On the subject of rushing, the stats from week one WILL be slanted due to some teams playing the patsies and others playing up. I don't think there will be any real indication of where the running title contenders in the BSC will be until the conclusion of week 3. Having said that, I still think Smith will be the man at the end of the season. I watched some of the griz game (in Philipsburg, MT, great little town!) and thought Chase showed some flashes in there, but with the experience of Smith and WSU's offensive line being a little better, I think that will be the difference.

putter
September 8th, 2009, 11:46 AM
Of course Jones and Reynolds were running against Division II teams while Dailey and Smith were against FBS teams.

Agreed, however, Chase sat out just as much as he played against WSC.

bpcats
September 8th, 2009, 01:06 PM
I expect the Griz to lead the conference in total rushing. Their oline and their offense is based on a power running attack which they are very good at. I don't see Chase leading the conference as an individual because the Griz have a platoon of rb's that they will utilize especially in the 4th quarter when the game is already put away.

Smith from WSU will lead the league the in rushing. Their offense is based on running the ball and setting up the play action pass and Smith is their workhorse.

EWU - may have a good to great runner but that offense is based on Nichols passing the ball all over the place. Their runner will be effective though.

MSU - will be lucky if they are third in the conference in rushing when all is said and done. There will be a platooning of a powerback and a speedster all game long.

UNC got a very good transfer in that runs hard but must hang onto the ball and the NAU running back (Henderson??) may rack up a lot of yards now that last years freshman of the year left the program.

Screamin_Eagle174
September 8th, 2009, 03:08 PM
Agreed, however, Chase sat out just as much as he played against WSC.

Same with Jones. xcoffeex

Screamin_Eagle174
September 8th, 2009, 03:11 PM
EXACTLY you bonehead! Yet you still felt the need to trash MSU for no reason at all. Grow up.

On the subject of rushing, the stats from week one WILL be slanted due to some teams playing the patsies and others playing up. I don't think there will be any real indication of where the running title contenders in the BSC will be until the conclusion of week 3. Having said that, I still think Smith will be the man at the end of the season. I watched some of the griz game (in Philipsburg, MT, great little town!) and thought Chase showed some flashes in there, but with the experience of Smith and WSU's offensive line being a little better, I think that will be the difference.

I used MSU as an example of your same logic so you would see how irrelevant your comment was to this thread. I didn't trash MSU, I simply brought up a fact: MSU only scored 3 points. It is what it is. Don't be bitter because your team under performed.

Native
September 8th, 2009, 05:13 PM
I realize that all the yards count, but Jones got most of his on one carry- take away that run and he was 11/35, 3.2 yds. avg. against a DII team. Smith got over half his on one carry- take away that run and he was 13/48, 3.7 yds. avg. against an FBS team. Just saying.........

Not quite right, because Smith had some yards taken away by penalties. Part of the game, of course, just sayin'...

Mistakes characterized Weber's performance in game one. I sure hope it was just early season jitters, and/or an above average defense.

CopperCat
September 8th, 2009, 08:27 PM
I used MSU as an example of your same logic so you would see how irrelevant your comment was to this thread. I didn't trash MSU, I simply brought up a fact: MSU only scored 3 points. It is what it is. Don't be bitter because your team under performed.

You could have approached the issue like an adult instead of neg repping, but your true colors came through.

And we didn't play the patsy DII school in week 1. What's more is that we weren't "underperforming" against a DII school as EWU did in week 1.

kalm
September 8th, 2009, 08:55 PM
So this week MSU gets the chance to underperform against the DII patsie, and EWU gets to underperform playing up. Which is more likely, EWU scoring only 3 and losing by 41 or MSU winning by less than three touchdowns and their running back gaining under 122 yards? :)

Screamin_Eagle174
September 8th, 2009, 09:38 PM
And we didn't play the patsy DII school in week 1. What's more is that we weren't "underperforming" against a DII school as EWU did in week 1.

That's right, you're playing the patsy this week. HUGE difference. Either way, the Bobcats STILL underperformed against Michigan State. WOU is a solid D-II team. Dixie State? Not so much. Went 4-7 last year and lost to WOU.

Watch EWU put up more than a FG against no. 10 Cal. That should get your tastebuds by until we serve MSU another yearly helping of crow when the Bobcats lose in Cheney.

Screamin_Eagle174
September 8th, 2009, 09:40 PM
So this week MSU gets the chance to underperform against the DII patsie, and EWU gets to underperform playing up. Which is more likely, EWU scoring only 3 and losing by 41 or MSU winning by less than three touchdowns and their running back gaining under 122 yards? :)

Give him a break Kalm. It's not like Dixie State is as good as Chadron State. Now that is a quality team! xsmiley_wix

I Bleed Purple
September 8th, 2009, 10:27 PM
I'm sure you're glad MSU fans popped up, Screamin', since you know you can't dispute my assertion that Jones won't win the rushing title. ;)*

















*fully expects last year's EWU-WSU result to be brought up despite it not being pertinent to the thread. When Screamin' can't dispute a point he resorts to unimportant past glory. ZING! :D**













**I'm also aware UM fans are sitting back laughing at the bickerin' and bitin' going on between teams that can only tie them for conference titles. xbawlingx***











*** Yes, that's three asterisks.

kalm
September 8th, 2009, 10:42 PM
Yeah well at least we've won a title outright, and the last team other than Montana to do so, which was only...yee-gads 12 years ago. :o

Screamin_Eagle174
September 8th, 2009, 11:15 PM
I'm sure you're glad MSU fans popped up, Screamin', since you know you can't dispute my assertion that Jones won't win the rushing title. ;)*


I can dispute that... because there's an almost full season of football to be played... it will be settled on the field. I'm not saying his chances are great, but he has a shot. Conversely, Smith isn't a lock either. Yes, his chances are good, but he's not a lock.


I don't have to bring up Eastern's win against WSU last year. You already did! Thanks! xlolxxlolxxlolx

CopperCat
September 9th, 2009, 06:30 PM
Watch EWU put up more than a FG against no. 10 Cal. That should get your tastebuds by until we serve MSU another yearly helping of crow when the Bobcats lose in Cheney.

With Boyce at WR, you SHOULD put up at least 14 points.

But Cal will score more than 44.

I Bleed Purple
September 12th, 2009, 08:58 PM
So this week MSU gets the chance to underperform against the DII patsie, and EWU gets to underperform playing up. Which is more likely, EWU scoring only 3 and losing by 41 or MSU winning by less than three touchdowns and their running back gaining under 122 yards? :)

Interesting post here. Seems like both happened unless you really want to champion the fact you scored more than three points even though you lost by more.

I Bleed Purple
September 12th, 2009, 09:04 PM
I can dispute that... because there's an almost full season of football to be played... it will be settled on the field. I'm not saying his chances are great, but he has a shot. Conversely, Smith isn't a lock either. Yes, his chances are good, but he's not a lock.




Seriously? You really think he had a shot? Or still has one? Smith now has 175 yds after two FBS games. He had 28 carries against an FBS. Jones had four. Barring injury, Reynolds and Smith are going to run away from the field, given Dailie's performance against Cal Poly.

I Bleed Purple
September 13th, 2009, 12:37 AM
Well, a incredibly great game by Taiwan Jones unfortunately couldn't keep him on top of the total rushing yards totem pole. His four yards bumps him to 126. Dailey's day for CSUS wasn't very good, rushing for 9 yards.

Reynolds-UM: 190
Harris-UNC: 174
Smith-WSU: 170
Jones-EWU: 126
Mason-MSU: 122
Dailey-CSUS: 110

UNCBears2010
September 13th, 2009, 12:57 AM
Andre Harris for UNC had 22 yards against Kansas and 152 today for a total of 174 on the season.

I Bleed Purple
September 13th, 2009, 01:07 AM
I completely neglected UNC when looking up stats. I shall edit him in. Thanks for that.

UNCBears2010
September 13th, 2009, 01:18 AM
I completely neglected UNC when looking up stats. I shall edit him in. Thanks for that.

Thanks. Just wanted Andre to get the credit he deserves. IMO he'll be near the top of that list all season, he is damn good.

I Bleed Purple
September 13th, 2009, 07:10 PM
And in the interest of whole stats for some reason.


From the Big Sky's website.

RUSHING Cl G Att. Yards Avg. TD Long Avg/G
1. Chase Reynolds-UM JR 2 43 190 4.4 2 29 95.0
2. Andre Harris-NC JR 2 26 174 6.7 2 45 87.0
3. Treyvn Smith-WSU SR 2 42 170 4.0 1 49 85.0
4. Taiwan Jones-EWU SO 2 16 124 7.8 2 87 62.0
5. Aaron Mason-MSU SR 2 20 122 6.1 0 15 61.0
6. Alex Henderson-NAU SR 1 14 56 4.0 0 17 56.0
7. Terrance Dailey-SAC SO 2 25 110 4.4 0 14 55.0
8. C. Kavanaugh-PSU SO 2 8 100 12.5 1 36 50.0
9. John Burnley-NC FR 2 10 83 8.3 1 34 41.5

Screamin_Eagle174
September 19th, 2009, 06:38 PM
95 yards on 18 carries today for Jones... xnodx

grizband
September 19th, 2009, 06:53 PM
95 yards on 18 carries today for Jones... xnodx
Unfortunately, only 28 for Reynolds today, in limited action (12 carries). However, the Griz rushed for 229 yards as a team!

I Bleed Purple
September 19th, 2009, 11:05 PM
Disappointed that Smith didn't run for 200. Only rushed for 177.

Will have update later.

I Bleed Purple
September 19th, 2009, 11:33 PM
All right, here are the unofficial stats after the third week.

Smith-WSU: 344
Harris-UNC: 271
Henderson-NAU: 224
Jones-EWU: 219
Reynolds-UM: 218

Henderson leads the pack of players who have only played two games. He joins Harris and Smith as the only backs to get 20+ carries in Week 3.

Shellin
September 20th, 2009, 12:15 AM
I think I like Smith's chances. That kid is a great back.

Screamin_Eagle174
September 20th, 2009, 12:22 AM
I think I like Smith's chances. That kid is a great back.

Indeed. ISU's defense is also very sub par.

Ronbo
September 20th, 2009, 06:39 AM
This is why Chase will have a hard time getting rushing records. Our RB stable is allowing the coaches to spread the ball around. Chase is only getting 18 touches a game.

RUSHING GP Att Gain Loss Net Avg TD Long Avg/G
-----------------------------------------------------------
Chase Reynolds 3 55 230 12 218 4.0 3 29 72.7
Peter Nguyen 3 12 103 1 102 8.5 1 57 34.0
Gerald Kemp 2 13 68 0 68 5.2 0 15 34.0
Andrew Selle 3 6 55 15 40 6.7 0 34 13.3
Dan Moore 3 12 35 0 35 2.9 1 7 11.7
Brooks-Fletcher 3 9 29 0 29 3.2 0 6 9.7
Justin Roper 3 4 20 2 18 4.5 0 15 6.0
Beau Donaldson 1 1 1 0 1 1.0 1 1 1.0


RUSHING OFFENSE G Att Yards Avg. TD Yards/G
1. Montana 3 116 498 4.3 6 166.0
2. Northern Arizona 2 59 315 5.3 5 157.5
3. Northern Colorado 3 100 408 4.1 3 136.0
4. Weber State 3 95 377 4.0 4 125.7
5. Montana State 2 71 222 3.1 0 111.0
6. Eastern Washington 3 99 320 3.2 2 106.7
7. Portland State 3 77 273 3.5 2 91.0
8. Sacramento State 2 60 171 2.8 1 85.5
9. Idaho State 3 86 118 1.4 0 39.3

Weber State has 377 yards total rushing and Smith is 344 yards of that! Better pray he stays healthy.

I Bleed Purple
September 20th, 2009, 01:17 PM
Weber State has 377 yards total rushing and Smith is 344 yards of that! Better pray he stays healthy.
Point stands, but at least take the sacks of the total. In reality, it's closer to 85% than 92%.

Native
September 20th, 2009, 01:29 PM
This is why Chase will have a hard time getting rushing records. Our RB stable is allowing the coaches to spread the ball around. Chase is only getting 18 touches a game.

RUSHING GP Att Gain Loss Net Avg TD Long Avg/G
-----------------------------------------------------------
Chase Reynolds 3 55 230 12 218 4.0 3 29 72.7
Peter Nguyen 3 12 103 1 102 8.5 1 57 34.0
Gerald Kemp 2 13 68 0 68 5.2 0 15 34.0
Andrew Selle 3 6 55 15 40 6.7 0 34 13.3
Dan Moore 3 12 35 0 35 2.9 1 7 11.7
Brooks-Fletcher 3 9 29 0 29 3.2 0 6 9.7
Justin Roper 3 4 20 2 18 4.5 0 15 6.0
Beau Donaldson 1 1 1 0 1 1.0 1 1 1.0


RUSHING OFFENSE G Att Yards Avg. TD Yards/G
1. Montana 3 116 498 4.3 6 166.0
2. Northern Arizona 2 59 315 5.3 5 157.5
3. Northern Colorado 3 100 408 4.1 3 136.0
4. Weber State 3 95 377 4.0 4 125.7
5. Montana State 2 71 222 3.1 0 111.0
6. Eastern Washington 3 99 320 3.2 2 106.7
7. Portland State 3 77 273 3.5 2 91.0
8. Sacramento State 2 60 171 2.8 1 85.5
9. Idaho State 3 86 118 1.4 0 39.3

Weber State has 377 yards total rushing and Smith is 344 yards of that! Better pray he stays healthy.

Because of the dissimilar out of conference schedules, these stats don't mean much, Ronbo.

Let's take another look in a couple more weeks using BSC conference-only stats. Smith and the Weber rushing stats will look even better by then.

I think the lesson learned by Big Sky teams from Weber's performance to date is that you have to force mistakes to beat the Wildcats.

...and there are several teams that could get 'er done!

Screamin_Eagle174
September 26th, 2009, 11:22 PM
All right, here are the unofficial stats after the third week.

Smith-WSU: 344 + 30
Harris-UNC: 271 + 52
Henderson-NAU: 224 + 52
Jones-EWU: 219 + 190
Reynolds-UM: 218 + 73

Henderson leads the pack of players who have only played two games. He joins Harris and Smith as the only backs to get 20+ carries in Week 3.

Well, after week 4 it looks like we have a new leader. xnodx Jones exploded for 190 yards on only 15 carries, with 4 TD's against Sac State. Smith saw limited action after coming out with a split lip, but still only managed 30 yards on 13 carries against a stingy Vikings run D. Here are the results after week 4:

Jones-EWU: 409
Smith-WSU: 374
Harris-UNC: 323
Reynolds-UM: 291
Henderson-NAU: 276

Screamin_Eagle174
September 27th, 2009, 12:15 AM
Bumpity Bump Bump.

And I Bleed Purple: YES, I do think Jones still has a chance. xthumbsupx

I Bleed Purple
September 27th, 2009, 12:15 AM
Ah. Only updating when it's convenient for you, eh? Didn't even have a chance to find the box score that wasn't on ESPN. Now if Jones has a poor day and Smith overtakes him, will you be posting the update again? ;)

I Bleed Purple
September 27th, 2009, 12:18 AM
Bumpity Bump Bump.

And I Bleed Purple: YES, I do think Jones still has a chance. xthumbsupx

You guys don't run the same offense you did the last three years with Nichols. After seeing a couple games I imagine Jones has more of a chance to win the Big Sky rushing title than I felt before, which was zero. Now it's above zero. He still doesn't get the carries necessary so I don't think he'll do it or end up challenging.

JALMOND
September 27th, 2009, 12:28 AM
Leave it to the Viking run defense to throw a wrench into this.

Reynolds, UM---28 yards
Smith, WSU---30 yards

We are certainly shutting down the feature backs. Unfortunately, the backup backs are running wild, though.

Screamin_Eagle174
September 27th, 2009, 12:28 AM
Ah. Only updating when it's convenient for you, eh? Didn't even have a chance to find the box score that wasn't on ESPN. Now if Jones has a poor day and Smith overtakes him, will you be posting the update again? ;)

Isn't that what you've been doing? xcoffeex Pot, meet kettle.

Screamin_Eagle174
September 27th, 2009, 12:30 AM
Leave it to the Viking run defense to throw a wrench into this.

Reynolds, UM---28 yards
Smith, WSU---30 yards

We are certainly shutting down the feature backs. Unfortunately, the backup backs are running wild, though.

Now if only the Vikings could stop the pass... xnodx xlolx

I Bleed Purple
September 27th, 2009, 12:32 AM
Isn't that what you've been doing? xcoffeex Pot, meet kettle.

Well, yeah, but Smith was only in first place after Week 3 and I updated all three weeks. This is my thread dammit, and I want it back. xbawlingxxbawlingxxbawlingx *



*This is not an open invitation to delete your updated post, making me do what you already did. :D

I Bleed Purple
September 27th, 2009, 12:33 AM
Leave it to the Viking run defense to throw a wrench into this.

Reynolds, UM---28 yards
Smith, WSU---30 yards

We are certainly shutting down the feature backs. Unfortunately, the backup backs are running wild, though.

I don't know what you did against UM, but you had 8 men in the box ALL GAME until the last drive.

JALMOND
September 27th, 2009, 12:39 AM
I don't know what you did against UM, but you had 8 men in the box ALL GAME until the last drive.

Put Shead on an island with Toone, harass Higgins and try not to let Smith beat you. And it almost worked.xnodx:D

You guys are a little different without Nakamora. If he would have been playing, we would not have been able to get away with that, no question

Screamin_Eagle174
September 27th, 2009, 12:44 AM
By the way, Jones has 285 yards on 31 carries against two FCS defenses for an average of 8.6 ypc.

Smith has 207 yards on 41 carries against two FCS defenses for an average of 5 ypc.

JALMOND
September 27th, 2009, 12:51 AM
By the way, Jones has 285 yards on 31 carries against two FCS defenses for an average of 8.6 ypc.

Smith has 207 yards on 41 carries against two FCS defenses for an average of 5 ypc.

China Jones has not run against PSU yet. If the Vikings can shut both Reynolds and Smith down, they can do that to any feature back in the conference. His backup may get 150 yards, but his yardage will be tough.

I Bleed Purple
September 27th, 2009, 12:51 AM
By the way, Jones has 285 yards on 31 carries against two FCS defenses for an average of 8.6 ypc.

Smith has 207 yards on 41 carries against two FCS defenses for an average of 5 ypc.

xnonoxxnonoxxnonoxxnonox

Don't be cherry picking like that. What would be the FBS averages? Besides, PSU has proven to stop the run. Sac St. has proven it can't guard a fence post.

Reality is that two to three more games are needed to see if Jones is going to get the carries and the game breaking plays and if defenses are content with Higgins throwing 400 yds against them.

I Bleed Purple
September 27th, 2009, 12:52 AM
China Jones has not run against PSU yet. If the Vikings can shut both Reynolds and Smith down, they can do that to any feature back in the conference. His backup may get 150 yards, but his yardage will be tough.

That would be "Chinese Taipei" Jones. xlolx

Screamin_Eagle174
September 27th, 2009, 12:54 AM
xnonoxxnonoxxnonoxxnonox

Don't be cherry picking like that. What would be the FBS averages? Besides, PSU has proven to stop the run. Sac St. has proven it can't guard a fence post.

Reality is that two to three more games are needed to see if Jones is going to get the carries and the game breaking plays and if defenses are content with Higgins throwing 400 yds against them.

I'll cherry pick all I want. xlolx xrotatehx :D

Screamin_Eagle174
September 27th, 2009, 12:56 AM
That would be "Chinese Taipei" Jones. xlolx

http://goeags.com/photos/sport/m-footbl/auto_headshot/1303843.jpeg?max_width=160

Does that man look slanty-eyed to you!? That's what I thought.

WTF kind of name is Trevyn anyway? xlolx

Both of them have weird-ass first names and simpleton last names.

JALMOND
September 27th, 2009, 12:59 AM
That would be "Chinese Taipei" Jones. xlolx

I almost called him China Phillips. xlolx

I Bleed Purple
September 27th, 2009, 01:03 AM
Both of them have weird-ass first names and simpleton last names.
You know what, you're absolutely right. xlolx

Screamin_Eagle174
September 27th, 2009, 01:16 AM
I make fun of him because I'm envious and wish PSU had a back with that kind of speed and talent. xlolx

Awww, that's sweet! xrolleyesx

JALMOND
September 27th, 2009, 01:22 AM
Awww, that's sweet! xrolleyesx

Wait a minute, I flag that for unsportsmanlike conduct.xnonono2xxlolx

JALMOND
September 27th, 2009, 01:24 AM
I'm going to bow out of this thread before we run it up to 10 pages of nonsense. I don't have a horse in this anyway.

Screamin_Eagle174
October 3rd, 2009, 08:46 PM
Well, after week 4 it looks like we have a new leader. xnodx Jones exploded for 190 yards on only 15 carries, with 4 TD's against Sac State. Smith saw limited action after coming out with a split lip, but still only managed 30 yards on 13 carries against a stingy Vikings run D. Here are the results after week 4:

Jones-EWU: 409
Smith-WSU: 374
Harris-UNC: 323
Reynolds-UM: 291
Henderson-NAU: 276

Week 5 yardage:

Jones: 168 yds (14 carries, 3 TDs)
Henderson: 160 yds (19 carries, 1TD)
Smith: 148 yds (31 carries, 0 TDs)
Dailey: 111 yds (34 carries, 1 TD)
Harris: 3 yds (1 carry, 0 TD)
Reynolds: 0 yds (BYE)

Since this is IBP's thread, I'll let him do the math and post the update. xthumbsupx



xlolxxlolxxlolxxlolx

technocat
October 3rd, 2009, 09:45 PM
I think Aaron Mason deserves a shoutout

4 games - 340 yards

GOKATS
October 3rd, 2009, 09:48 PM
I think Aaron Mason deserves a shoutout

4 games - 340 yards

138 today.xthumbsupx

Screamin_Eagle174
October 5th, 2009, 04:54 PM
Week 5 yardage:

Jones: 168 yds (14 carries, 3 TDs)
Henderson: 160 yds (19 carries, 1TD)
Smith: 148 yds (31 carries, 0 TDs)
Dailey: 111 yds (34 carries, 1 TD)
Harris: 3 yds (1 carry, 0 TD)
Reynolds: 0 yds (BYE)

Since this is IBP's thread, I'll let him do the math and post the update. xthumbsupx



xlolxxlolxxlolxxlolx

Well, IBP's a no show, so I'll update it.

Jones (EWU): 577 yards (5 games)
Smith (WSU): 522 yards (5 games)
Henderson (NAU): 436 yards (4 games)
Mason (MSU): 340 yards (4 games)
Harris (UNC): 326 (5 games)
Reynolds (UM): 290 yards (4 games)
Dailey (SAC): 243 yards (4 games)
Bowen (PSU): 151 yards (5 games)
Laporta (ISU): 93 yards (4 games) xlolx

I Bleed Purple
October 6th, 2009, 09:10 PM
Thanks for posting in my....um....absence.

catbob
October 6th, 2009, 09:58 PM
Who would have thought Reynolds would be so low?

Walkon79
October 6th, 2009, 10:01 PM
Well, IBP's a no show, so I'll update it.

Jones (EWU): 577 yards (5 games)
Smith (WSU): 522 yards (5 games)
Henderson (NAU): 436 yards (4 games)
Mason (MSU): 340 yards (4 games)
Harris (UNC): 326 (5 games)
Reynolds (UM): 290 yards (4 games)
Dailey (SAC): 243 yards (4 games)
Bowen (PSU): 151 yards (5 games)
Laporta (ISU): 93 yards (4 games) xlolx


Mason's also at a similar disadvanatage as Reynolds. C.J. Is getting a ton of carries.

gbhmt
October 7th, 2009, 01:11 AM
Who would have thought Reynolds would be so low?

Anyone could predict that. He doesn't get many carries. We have too much talent at RB for him to get the kind of touches the other backs get.

Poker Alan
October 7th, 2009, 08:59 AM
Who would have thought Reynolds would be so low?

last year he had an incredibly slow start to the season, as well, even less rushing yards than this season at the same point. He really didn't get rolling until game 7 or 8 last season. Griz O-line is still gelling, I would anticipate another late season surge by him, as well... especially once the Griz get that pesky QB situation locked in.

kalm
October 7th, 2009, 10:01 AM
Mason's also at a similar disadvanatage as Reynolds. C.J. Is getting a ton of carries.

Nichol's, Boyce, Overbay, and Davis take away carries from Jones. ;)

catbob
October 7th, 2009, 12:21 PM
Anyone could predict that. He doesn't get many carries. We have too much talent at RB for him to get the kind of touches the other backs get.

What is so different from last year? Brooks-Fletcher was there last year, and Reynolds still put up monster numbers. Is Nguyen that good? I see he has 13 carries. Reynolds still has the 3rd most carries in the conference, but the 6th most rushing yards, at less than 73 yards per game. He was at nearly 99 yards per game last year. I guess I don't follow the Griz closely enough to know that "anyone could predict" he wouldn't be top 5 in the conference in rushing so far?

I'm asking in all seriousness because I thought Reynolds had a breakout year last year and that it would continue.

Silenoz
October 7th, 2009, 12:45 PM
It isn't the carries, his YPC is way down. Right now our run block isn't performing particularly well, but that was the case last year as well. I'd guess they get on track in the next few weeks

catatac
October 7th, 2009, 12:50 PM
What is so different from last year? Brooks-Fletcher was there last year, and Reynolds still put up monster numbers. Is Nguyen that good? I see he has 13 carries. Reynolds still has the 3rd most carries in the conference, but the 6th most rushing yards, at less than 73 yards per game. He was at nearly 99 yards per game last year. I guess I don't follow the Griz closely enough to know that "anyone could predict" he wouldn't be top 5 in the conference in rushing so far?

I'm asking in all seriousness because I thought Reynolds had a breakout year last year and that it would continue.

THe griz O line is not as good as last year. As some have stated, they may still be "gelling" and may prove to be good... but they lost 3 extremely talented ilneman to graduation. I doubt they ever get to the level of where they were last year in terms of run blocking. Pass blocking may be a different story because their line has been pretty poor at this for the past few years.

catbob
October 7th, 2009, 02:09 PM
Yea I knew they lost some great lineman from last year. I guess I was mostly questioning the"UM has too much talent at RB for him to get many carries" line.

I hope Smith gets it, he has been my favorite back to watch in the Sky the last 3 years. But Jones could steal his glory!

Speaking of Jones, is there any video out there of this kid? I've heard the talk, but I wana see it for myself (before he potentially torches my Cats).

gbhmt
October 7th, 2009, 03:12 PM
The situation with Reynolds is definitely very largely an issue with the offensive line but the carries are just getting spread so much more and most importantly, are being spread out later in the game when defenses are more worn out (when Reynolds really shines). Look at the Portland State game from this year:

Peter Nguyen 5 71 0 71 0 57 14.2
Gerald Kemp 11 61 0 61 0 15 5.5
Andrew Selle 3 50 9 41 0 34 13.7
Chase Reynolds 12 34 6 28 1 8 2.3
Dan Moore 7 20 0 20 0 6 2.9
Brooks-Fletcher 3 5 0 5 0 3 1.7
Justin Roper 1 2 0 2 0 2 2.0
Beau Donaldson 1 1 0 1 1 1 1.0
Totals... 43 244 15 229 2 57 5.3

and last year:

Chase Reynolds 35 173 13 160 3 20 4.6
Cole Bergquist 16 119 28 91 1 35 5.7
Andrew Schmidt 5 39 2 37 0 19 7.4
Brooks-Fletcher 3 16 0 16 0 14 5.3
Brody McKnight 1 13 0 13 0 13 13.0
TEAM 1 0 3 -3 0 0 -3.0
Rob Schulte 1 0 5 -5 0 0 -5.0
Totals... 62 360 51 309 4 35 5.0

Twelve carries vs thirty five. And I can't blame you for not thinking Ngyuen is "talent" because you must not have seen him by now. He's honestly the most exciting freshman I've seen for a while. He's got the quickest feet I've seen on the team, and while he's not as fast as Reynolds, his lateral agility makes up for it. You'll see more of Dan Moore soon enough, he comes off as a power back but he's still got a surprising burst of speed. Throw in Kemp, an exceptional running QB and Donaldson, an at least solid FB that's already delivering (2 TD last game) and yes, we've got a whole lot of depth in the backfield this year. Brooks-Fletcher is still around but honestly I think Ngyuen is much more dangerous and possibly even Dan Moore is a better back. Last year, all that was behind Reynolds was a somewhat decent Brooks-Fletcher and a few QB read plays from Bergquist.

At the beginning of the season, Hauck said he wouldn't ride Reynolds hard at all, particularly earlier in the season, because he simply doesn't have to. Reynolds can deliver later in the season when we really need him to churn out over thirty carries a game.

Edit: Oh and if you want an intro to Ngyuen, just watch him return kickoffs. He averages 30 yards a return, ranking 13th in the nation.

Screamin_Eagle174
October 7th, 2009, 04:24 PM
Yea I knew they lost some great lineman from last year. I guess I was mostly questioning the"UM has too much talent at RB for him to get many carries" line.

I hope Smith gets it, he has been my favorite back to watch in the Sky the last 3 years. But Jones could steal his glory!

Speaking of Jones, is there any video out there of this kid? I've heard the talk, but I wana see it for myself (before he potentially torches my Cats).

Not that I know of. Watch the EWU/Weber game on Bigskytv this weekend. Otherwise wait until just after the Griz game... their Athletic Dept always puts out good game recap vids. I wish ours did.

ASU_Fanatic
October 7th, 2009, 06:23 PM
Interesting.

I Bleed Purple
October 10th, 2009, 09:16 PM
Updated by me this time since of course Smith retook the lead. :D

1. Trevyn Smith-WSU SR 6 146 668 4.6 5 49 111.3
2. Taiwan Jones-EWU SO 6 76 641 8.4 9 96 106.8
3. Alex Henderson-NAU SR 5 96 448 4.7 4 69 89.6
4. Terrance Dailey-SAC SO 5 77 431 5.6 2 69 86.2
5. Chase Reynolds-UM JR 5 107 400 3.7 6 29 80.0
6. Aaron Mason-MSU SR 5 61 355 5.8 2 26 71.0
7. Andre Harris-NC JR 5 69 326 4.7 2 45 65.2
8. CJ Palmer-MSU SO 5 56 207 3.7 2 29 41.4
9. John Burnley-NC FR 4 27 131 4.9 1 34 32.8
10. Clint Knickrehm-ISU SR 5 66 156 2.4 0 20 31.2

Screamin_Eagle174
October 11th, 2009, 12:58 AM
Updated by me this time since of course Smith retook the lead. :D

1. Trevyn Smith-WSU SR 6 146 668 4.6 5 49 111.3
2. Taiwan Jones-EWU SO 6 76 641 8.4 9 96 106.8
3. Alex Henderson-NAU SR 5 96 448 4.7 4 69 89.6
4. Terrance Dailey-SAC SO 5 77 431 5.6 2 69 86.2
5. Chase Reynolds-UM JR 5 107 400 3.7 6 29 80.0
6. Aaron Mason-MSU SR 5 61 355 5.8 2 26 71.0
7. Andre Harris-NC JR 5 69 326 4.7 2 45 65.2
8. CJ Palmer-MSU SO 5 56 207 3.7 2 29 41.4
9. John Burnley-NC FR 4 27 131 4.9 1 34 32.8
10. Clint Knickrehm-ISU SR 5 66 156 2.4 0 20 31.2

xlolxxlolxxlolx

Damn, I was going to do it too, but you beat me to it.

Enjoy that 27 yards for now. Jones has almost as many yards on just about half as many carries, and almost twice the TDs as Smitty. xthumbsupx

I Bleed Purple
October 11th, 2009, 03:02 AM
xlolxxlolxxlolx

Damn, I was going to do it too, but you beat me to it.

Enjoy that 27 yards for now. Jones has almost as many yards on just about half as many carries, and almost twice the TDs as Smitty. xthumbsupx

You do realize that Jones needs 7 more touchdowns in five games to better Smith's TD rate of last year. Dude had 21 rushing touchdowns in 14 games. Jones needs 17 in 11 to better it. And that's not including Smith's 7 Rec TDs last year. Smith averaged 2 TDs a game last year. Absolutely nuts.

And your boy has a harder slate than Smith. Your line's not going to open gashes in the opponents D-Line against the likes of not Sac State. He'll get yards since he's too damn good, but he'll be contained and won't get those huge 80 yard runs. EWU also likely won't blow out any more opponents (by all means, PLEASE do prove me wrong) so he won't get as many carries, either. You'll throw the ball a lot. I'm guessing he'll finish the year in the high 6s, maybe low 7s ypc.

Edit:

The weird thing is that so far, Weber and EWU have only had one common opponent so far, ISU. Smith has the edge there, 177 to 168, as if that meant anything.

Screamin_Eagle174
October 11th, 2009, 01:13 PM
You do realize that Jones needs 7 more touchdowns in five games to better Smith's TD rate of last year. Dude had 21 rushing touchdowns in 14 games. Jones needs 17 in 11 to better it. And that's not including Smith's 7 Rec TDs last year. Smith averaged 2 TDs a game last year. Absolutely nuts.

And your boy has a harder slate than Smith. Your line's not going to open gashes in the opponents D-Line against the likes of not Sac State. He'll get yards since he's too damn good, but he'll be contained and won't get those huge 80 yard runs. EWU also likely won't blow out any more opponents (by all means, PLEASE do prove me wrong) so he won't get as many carries, either. You'll throw the ball a lot. I'm guessing he'll finish the year in the high 6s, maybe low 7s ypc.

Edit:

The weird thing is that so far, Weber and EWU have only had one common opponent so far, ISU. Smith has the edge there, 177 to 168, as if that meant anything.

Comparing Jones this year to Smith's junior (best) year? How fair is that. He'll break Smith's Freshman year numbers, that's for sure.

Native
October 11th, 2009, 02:08 PM
Comparing Jones this year to Smith's junior (best) year? How fair is that. He'll break Smith's Freshman year numbers, that's for sure.

Is Jones not a sophomore this year?

Silenoz
October 11th, 2009, 02:12 PM
Chase may or may not win the rushing title (probably won't), but he does have a good shot at breaking his own scoring record, and eventually our all time scoring records.

Screamin_Eagle174
October 11th, 2009, 02:14 PM
Is Jones not a sophomore this year?

He is. But he was out half of last season (only played 4 games), and he played CB. This is his first year at RB (in college).

Native
October 11th, 2009, 02:15 PM
When we are talking about conference titles, I prefer to look at conference-only stats, since some teams have easier non-conference schedules than others.

From the conference web site, here are the Big Sky rushing stats including the games of 10 October:

RUSHING Cl G Att. Yards Avg. TD Long Avg/G
1. Taiwan Jones-EWU SO 4 60 517 8.6 7 96 129.2
2. Trevyn Smith-WSU SR 4 104 498 4.8 4 48 124.5
3. Terrance Dailey-SAC SO 3 52 321 6.2 2 69 107.0
4. Aaron Mason-MSU SR 3 41 233 5.7 2 26 77.7
5. Alex Henderson-NAU SR 3 50 224 4.5 1 69 74.7
6. Chase Reynolds-UM JR 2 35 101 2.9 3 13 50.5
7. Clint Knickrehm-ISU SR 3 37 145 3.9 0 20 48.3
8. Andre Harris-NC JR 4 49 182 3.7 0 25 45.5
9. CJ Palmer-MSU SO 3 31 132 4.3 2 29 44.0
10. Sam McCowan-SAC FR 3 31 130 4.2 2 20 43.3

Native
October 11th, 2009, 02:18 PM
It is worth noting that Taiwan Jones is yet to face the three most stingy rushing defenses in the conference. Trevyn Smith has already faced two of the top four.

From the Big Sky Conference web site, here are the BSC conference-only rushing defense stats through the games of 10 October:

RUSHING DEFENSE G Att Yards Avg. TD Yards/G
1. Northern Arizona 3 98 140 1.4 2 46.7
2. Montana 2 49 96 2.0 1 48.0
3. Montana State 3 98 148 1.5 0 49.3
4. Eastern Washington 4 139 377 2.7 4 94.2
5. Weber State 4 128 506 4.0 4 126.5
6. Sacramento State 3 84 391 4.7 7 130.3
7. Portland State 4 135 543 4.0 4 135.8
8. Northern Colorado 4 155 626 4.0 2 156.5
9. Idaho State 3 98 698 7.1 7 232.7

I Bleed Purple
October 17th, 2009, 09:39 PM
Back and forth continues. Jones with a good day, Smith didn't do too much.

RUSHING Cl G Att. Yards Avg. TD Long Avg/G
1. Taiwan Jones-EWU SO 7 93 786 8.5 10 96 112.3
2. Trevyn Smith-WSU SR 7 164 724 4.4 5 49 103.4
3. Alex Henderson-NAU SR 6 117 540 4.6 6 69 90.0
4. Terrance Dailey-SAC SO 6 99 527 5.3 2 69 87.8
5. Chase Reynolds-UM JR 6 128 469 3.7 8 29 78.2
6. Aaron Mason-MSU SR 5 61 355 5.8 2 26 71.0
7. Andre Harris-NC JR 7 99 469 4.7 3 45 67.0
8. CJ Palmer-MSU SO 6 75 313 4.2 3 29 52.2
9. B. McClintock-PSU SR 7 49 217 4.4 0 27 31.0
10. C. Kavanaugh-PSU SO 7 32 205 6.4 3 36 29.3

Screamin_Eagle174
October 17th, 2009, 10:13 PM
Back and forth continues. Jones with a good day, Smith didn't do too much.

RUSHING Cl G Att. Yards Avg. TD Long Avg/G
1. Taiwan Jones-EWU SO 7 93 786 8.5 10 96 112.3
2. Trevyn Smith-WSU SR 7 164 724 4.4 5 49 103.4
3. Alex Henderson-NAU SR 6 117 540 4.6 6 69 90.0
4. Terrance Dailey-SAC SO 6 99 527 5.3 2 69 87.8
5. Chase Reynolds-UM JR 6 128 469 3.7 8 29 78.2
6. Aaron Mason-MSU SR 5 61 355 5.8 2 26 71.0
7. Andre Harris-NC JR 7 99 469 4.7 3 45 67.0
8. CJ Palmer-MSU SO 6 75 313 4.2 3 29 52.2
9. B. McClintock-PSU SR 7 49 217 4.4 0 27 31.0
10. C. Kavanaugh-PSU SO 7 32 205 6.4 3 36 29.3

:D

Shellin
October 17th, 2009, 11:31 PM
Taiwan Jones is a stud, that guy looked to be nearly impossible to tackle today.

mvemjsunpx
October 18th, 2009, 01:22 AM
Taiwan Jones is a stud, that guy looked to be nearly impossible to tackle today.

Except for the kicker. McKnight wrapped him up good.

Native
October 18th, 2009, 10:52 AM
By the way, Jones has 285 yards on 31 carries against two FCS defenses for an average of 8.6 ypc.

Smith has 207 yards on 41 carries against two FCS defenses for an average of 5 ypc.

That tells me that both Smith and Jones are pretty dang good. xthumbsupx

Native
October 18th, 2009, 11:05 AM
Top Big Sky Rushing Defenses after the games of 17 October:

RUSHING DEFENSE G Att Yards Avg. TD Yards/G
1. Montana State 3 98 147 1.5 0 49.0
2. Northern Arizona 4 127 277 2.2 3 69.2
3. Montana 3 84 268 3.2 2 89.3
4. Eastern Washington 5 177 521 2.9 6 104.2
5. Sacramento State 4 112 484 4.3 8 121.0
6. Northern Colorado 5 173 615 3.6 2 123.0
7. Weber State 5 165 617 3.7 4 123.4
8. Portland State 5 177 747 4.2 7 149.4
9. Idaho State 4 138 908 6.6 9 227.0

Trevyn Smith has yet to face Northern Arizona and Montana. Taiwan Jones has yet to face Montana State and Northern Arizona.

As far as I am concerned, the personal rushing stats that matter the most are the conference only stats. After Week 7 (17 October). With only three conference games to go, Jones leads:

RUSHING Cl G Att. Yards Avg. TD Long Avg/G
1. Taiwan Jones-EWU SO 5 77 662 8.6 8 96 132.4
2. Trevyn Smith-WSU SR 5 122 554 4.5 4 48 110.8

But even more importantly, a conference championship and shot at the national title matter the most. Even Trevyn, with his very healthy ego, will tell you that!

Screamin_Eagle174
October 18th, 2009, 11:27 AM
Top Big Sky Rushing Defenses after the games of 17 October:

RUSHING DEFENSE G Att Yards Avg. TD Yards/G
1. Montana State 3 98 147 1.5 0 49.0
2. Northern Arizona 4 127 277 2.2 3 69.2
3. Montana 3 84 268 3.2 2 89.3
4. Eastern Washington 5 177 521 2.9 6 104.2
5. Sacramento State 4 112 484 4.3 8 121.0
6. Northern Colorado 5 173 615 3.6 2 123.0
7. Weber State 5 165 617 3.7 4 123.4
8. Portland State 5 177 747 4.2 7 149.4
9. Idaho State 4 138 908 6.6 9 227.0

Trevyn Smith has yet to face Northern Arizona and Montana. Taiwan Jones has yet to face Montana State and Northern Arizona.

As far as I am concerned, the personal rushing stats that matter the most are the conference only stats. After Week 7 (17 October). With only three conference games to go, Jones leads:

RUSHING Cl G Att. Yards Avg. TD Long Avg/G
1. Taiwan Jones-EWU SO 5 77 662 8.6 8 96 132.4
2. Trevyn Smith-WSU SR 5 122 554 4.5 4 48 110.8

But even more importantly, a conference championship and shot at the national title matter the most. Even Trevyn, with his very healthy ego, will tell you that!

I guess it must be a real heart-breaker that Smith won't get either then!? xlolx

Screamin_Eagle174
October 18th, 2009, 11:38 AM
Yea I knew they lost some great lineman from last year. I guess I was mostly questioning the"UM has too much talent at RB for him to get many carries" line.

I hope Smith gets it, he has been my favorite back to watch in the Sky the last 3 years. But Jones could steal his glory!

Speaking of Jones, is there any video out there of this kid? I've heard the talk, but I wana see it for myself (before he potentially torches my Cats).

Here ya go: http://www.montanagrizzlies.com/pages/news_item.aspx?n=8348&m=18

There's a couple good highlights... look for 22... might be hard to read the numbers because he's so fast! xthumbsupx

gbhmt
October 18th, 2009, 11:51 AM
Jones has my vote, he's legit. Disgusting speed combined with deadly quickness. I'd say watch out for him but by the time you look for him he's by you.xthumbsupx

Ronbo
October 18th, 2009, 11:55 AM
Montana players are constantly drilled that team play and winning is paramount and trumps any individual glory or award. Many players were quoted as saying so when 75% of the Weber starters were honored as All Big Sky and most of the Griz starters were snubbed.

gbhmt
October 18th, 2009, 11:57 AM
Montana players are constantly drilled that team play and winning is paramount and trumps any individual glory or award. Many players were quoted as saying so when 75% of the Weber starters were honored as All Big Sky and most of the Griz starters were snubbed.

On that note, I've never seen a punt return where all eleven players on the side put in 100% of their effort as the TD yesterday. It was remarkable.

I Bleed Purple
October 24th, 2009, 10:14 PM
Jones starting to pull away as Smith did something he shouldn't have and had to watch his backup run for 200+ yards.

1. Taiwan Jones-EWU SO 8 105 841 8.0 10 96 105.1
2. Trevyn Smith-WSU SR 7 164 724 4.4 5 49 103.4
3. Alex Henderson-NAU SR 7 134 672 5.0 8 69 96.0
4. Terrance Dailey-SAC SO 7 118 617 5.2 3 69 88.1
5. Chase Reynolds-UM JR 7 148 581 3.9 11 29 83.0
6. Andre Harris-NC JR 8 109 518 4.8 4 45 64.8
7. CJ Palmer-MSU SO 7 101 447 4.4 4 31 63.9
8. Bo Bolen-WSU FR 8 63 338 5.4 3 35 42.2
9. Brooks-Fletcher-UM SR 7 52 246 4.7 1 18 35.1
10. Clint Knickrehm-ISU SR 7 89 225 2.5 0 20 32.1

Screamin_Eagle174
October 25th, 2009, 11:38 AM
Jones starting to pull away as Smith did something he shouldn't have and had to watch his backup run for 200+ yards.

1. Taiwan Jones-EWU SO 8 105 841 8.0 10 96 105.1
2. Trevyn Smith-WSU SR 7 164 724 4.4 5 49 103.4
3. Alex Henderson-NAU SR 7 134 672 5.0 8 69 96.0
4. Terrance Dailey-SAC SO 7 118 617 5.2 3 69 88.1
5. Chase Reynolds-UM JR 7 148 581 3.9 11 29 83.0
6. Andre Harris-NC JR 8 109 518 4.8 4 45 64.8
7. CJ Palmer-MSU SO 7 101 447 4.4 4 31 63.9
8. Bo Bolen-WSU FR 8 63 338 5.4 3 35 42.2
9. Brooks-Fletcher-UM SR 7 52 246 4.7 1 18 35.1
10. Clint Knickrehm-ISU SR 7 89 225 2.5 0 20 32.1

What'd he do?

Screamin_Eagle174
October 25th, 2009, 11:39 AM
And can we add receptions and receiving TDs to this list? :D

Jones had 6 catches for 149 yards and 2 TDs...

I Bleed Purple
October 25th, 2009, 01:11 PM
What'd he do?

Violation of team rules. He missed a Friday meeting according to the Standard, so...

Screamin_Eagle174
October 31st, 2009, 09:25 PM
Jones starting to pull away as Smith did something he shouldn't have and had to watch his backup run for 200+ yards.

1. Taiwan Jones-EWU SO 8 105 841 8.0 10 96 105.1
2. Trevyn Smith-WSU SR 7 164 724 4.4 5 49 103.4
3. Alex Henderson-NAU SR 7 134 672 5.0 8 69 96.0
4. Terrance Dailey-SAC SO 7 118 617 5.2 3 69 88.1
5. Chase Reynolds-UM JR 7 148 581 3.9 11 29 83.0
6. Andre Harris-NC JR 8 109 518 4.8 4 45 64.8
7. CJ Palmer-MSU SO 7 101 447 4.4 4 31 63.9
8. Bo Bolen-WSU FR 8 63 338 5.4 3 35 42.2
9. Brooks-Fletcher-UM SR 7 52 246 4.7 1 18 35.1
10. Clint Knickrehm-ISU SR 7 89 225 2.5 0 20 32.1

Both Jones and Smith had subpar days, although Jones has been getting a lot of YAC on short little screen passes lately. Reynolds moves into contention for the title after a monster day today.


1. Taiwan Jones-EWU: 903
2. Chase Reynolds-UM: 822
3. Trevyn Smith-WSU: 788
4. Alex Henderson-NAU: 770
5. Terrance Dailey-SAC: 617
6. Andre Harris-NC: 574
7. CJ Palmer-MSU: 490
8. Aaron Mason-MSU: 466
9. Bo Bolen-WSU: 351
10. Brooks-Fletcher-UM: 274

JALMOND
November 1st, 2009, 12:38 PM
My thoughts on Taiwan Jones...Its true you cannot teach speed (and Jones has speed), but you can teach technique. Jones needs to realize that he is not going to break for a big run every time he gets the ball. He does spend a lot of time dancing around trying to find a place to run instead of just going where the play is supposed to go. Both of PSU's safeties were as a result of his dancing around near the goal line. If he would have just run where the play was to go instead of looking for the big play, Nichols would not have had to try to get it back on the next play. Sometimes, when you try to wait for a bigger play, you end up losing what you had.

Hig big run in the second quarter, it looked like he trusted his blockers and ran where the play was supposed to go, and he had the 47 yard run. He should try to do more of that, my opinion.

gbhmt
November 8th, 2009, 11:30 AM
The race just got a little more interesting now that the Griz have played as many games as EWU.

1. Chase Reynolds-UM JR 9 203 945 4.7 12 40 105.0
2. Taiwan Jones-EWU SO 9 117 903 7.7 12 96 100.3
3. Trevyn Smith-WSU SR 8 184 788 4.3 5 49 98.5
4. Alex Henderson-NAU SR 9 192 872 4.5 11 69 96.9
5. Terrance Dailey-SAC SO 7 118 617 5.2 3 69 88.1
6. Aaron Mason-MSU SR 7 103 520 5.0 4 26 74.3
7. Andre Harris-NC JR 10 137 621 4.5 7 45 62.1
8. CJ Palmer-MSU SO 9 109 497 4.6 5 31 55.2
9. Bo Bolen-WSU FR 9 66 351 5.3 3 35 39.0

gbhmt
November 15th, 2009, 01:54 AM
Barring a huge game from Henderson or Jones combined with a no-show by Reynolds, it appears that Chase will win the rushing title. Honestly, I'm surprised, but I suppose Hauck kept his word when he said he wouldn't ride him till the end of the season.

1. Chase Reynolds-UM JR 10 226 1096 4.8 15 54 109.6
2. Alex Henderson-NAU SR 10 222 983 4.4 11 69 98.3
3. Taiwan Jones-EWU SO 10 134 980 7.3 13 96 98.0
4. Trevyn Smith-WSU SR 9 201 872 4.3 5 49 96.9
5. Aaron Mason-MSU SR 8 118 567 4.8 5 26 70.9
6. Andre Harris-NC JR 11 145 646 4.5 7 45 58.7
7. CJ Palmer-MSU SO 10 111 495 4.5 5 31 49.5
8. Bo Bolen-WSU FR 10 87 443 5.1 3 35 44.3
9. Clint Knickrehm-ISU SR 10 140 434 3.1 2 31 43.4
10. B. McClintock-PSU SR 11 87 420 4.8 2 27 38.2

Screamin_Eagle174
November 15th, 2009, 02:16 AM
Barring a huge game from Henderson or Jones combined with a no-show by Reynolds, it appears that Chase will win the rushing title. Honestly, I'm surprised, but I suppose Hauck kept his word when he said he wouldn't ride him till the end of the season.

1. Chase Reynolds-UM JR 10 226 1096 4.8 15 54 109.6
2. Alex Henderson-NAU SR 10 222 983 4.4 11 69 98.3
3. Taiwan Jones-EWU SO 10 134 980 7.3 13 96 98.0
4. Trevyn Smith-WSU SR 9 201 872 4.3 5 49 96.9
5. Aaron Mason-MSU SR 8 118 567 4.8 5 26 70.9
6. Andre Harris-NC JR 11 145 646 4.5 7 45 58.7
7. CJ Palmer-MSU SO 10 111 495 4.5 5 31 49.5
8. Bo Bolen-WSU FR 10 87 443 5.1 3 35 44.3
9. Clint Knickrehm-ISU SR 10 140 434 3.1 2 31 43.4
10. B. McClintock-PSU SR 11 87 420 4.8 2 27 38.2


Yeah, Reynolds will probably run away with it this year. I'm not worried though... Jones will get more carries next year since we'll have a young, unproven QB at the helm. Jones' 7ypc is ridiculous, and will only get better as he matures and works on the fundamentals.

One thing to note is Jones' receiving yards. His speed is the ultimate threat, so bubble screens to Jones give him the ability to get some space and turn on the burners. Over the last 3 games, Jones has had a combined 13 receptions for 280 yards and 3 TDs, an average of a little over 21 yards per catch.

I Bleed Purple
November 15th, 2009, 01:07 PM
Yep, Trevyn's done. I can't feel too bad. Looked slower all this year until yesterday, actually. Bolen has outplayed him the last half of the year anyway, so he should be out there. Still, it was great to have Smith here for four years.


I hope you mean Jones the back will get better Screamin', and not the 7 ypc. Jones will be the focus for opponents next year with Nichols gone. It'll be nice to him him in person next year.

gbhmt
November 21st, 2009, 11:52 PM
Wellll thanks a lot Eastern, you just had to let Henderson run all over you and steal the title by SEVEN FREAKING YARDS. Hmph.

1. Alex Henderson-NAU SR 11 253 1166 4.6 12 69 106.0
2. Chase Reynolds-UM JR 11 251 1159 4.6 15 54 105.4
3. Taiwan Jones-EWU SO 11 147 1095 7.4 14 96 99.5
4. Trevyn Smith-WSU SR 10 221 979 4.4 7 49 97.9
5. Aaron Mason-MSU SR 9 128 618 4.8 5 26 68.7
6. Andre Harris-NC JR 11 145 646 4.5 7 45 58.7
7. CJ Palmer-MSU SO 11 115 510 4.4 5 31 46.4
8. Clint Knickrehm-ISU SR 10 140 434 3.1 2 31 43.4
9. Bo Bolen-WSU FR 11 88 442 5.0 3 35 40.2
10. B. McClintock-PSU SR 11 87 420 4.8 2 27 38.2

Screamin_Eagle174
November 21st, 2009, 11:57 PM
Wellll thanks a lot Eastern, you just had to let Henderson run all over you and steal the title by SEVEN FREAKING YARDS. Hmph.

1. Alex Henderson-NAU SR 11 253 1166 4.6 12 69 106.0
2. Chase Reynolds-UM JR 11 251 1159 4.6 15 54 105.4
3. Taiwan Jones-EWU SO 11 147 1095 7.4 14 96 99.5
4. Trevyn Smith-WSU SR 10 221 979 4.4 7 49 97.9
5. Aaron Mason-MSU SR 9 128 618 4.8 5 26 68.7
6. Andre Harris-NC JR 11 145 646 4.5 7 45 58.7
7. CJ Palmer-MSU SO 11 115 510 4.4 5 31 46.4
8. Clint Knickrehm-ISU SR 10 140 434 3.1 2 31 43.4
9. Bo Bolen-WSU FR 11 88 442 5.0 3 35 40.2
10. B. McClintock-PSU SR 11 87 420 4.8 2 27 38.2

xlolxxlolxxlolxxlolx

Now THAT'S funny. On over a hundred less carries, Jones still almost takes it... xrulesx

Jones will be a force to be reckoned with next year. Don't forget about his nearly 500 yards receiving this season too, with another 4 TDs xnodxxnodxxnodx

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Native
November 22nd, 2009, 12:21 AM
Looks like Reynolds, Jones and Smith will have a good chance to pad those numbers a bit in the post season.

Screamin_Eagle174
November 22nd, 2009, 12:26 AM
Looks like Reynolds, Jones and Smith will have a good chance to pad those numbers a bit in the post season.

But will they count for the rushing title? I thought it was just regular season.

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Native
November 22nd, 2009, 12:27 AM
But will they count for the rushing title? I thought it was just regular season.

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Don't think it counts for the BSC title, just sayin'...

Here are the CONFERENCE ONLY stats:

RUSHING Cl G Att. Yards Avg. TD Long Avg/G
1. Taiwan Jones-EWU SO 8 114 894 7.8 11 96 111.8
2. Chase Reynolds-UM JR 8 179 860 4.8 12 54 107.5
3. Alex Henderson-NAU SR 8 173 840 4.9 7 69 105.0
4. Trevyn Smith-WSU SR 7 159 702 4.4 4 48 100.3

grizband
November 22nd, 2009, 04:23 PM
Don't think it counts for the BSC title, just sayin'...

Here are the CONFERENCE ONLY stats:

RUSHING Cl G Att. Yards Avg. TD Long Avg/G
1. Taiwan Jones-EWU SO 8 114 894 7.8 11 96 111.8
2. Chase Reynolds-UM JR 8 179 860 4.8 12 54 107.5
3. Alex Henderson-NAU SR 8 173 840 4.9 7 69 105.0
4. Trevyn Smith-WSU SR 7 159 702 4.4 4 48 100.3
I wonder the last season when 4 Big Sky running backs all averaged over 100 yards/game in conference play.