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gsugt1
November 21st, 2005, 12:34 PM
for putting in Lafayette :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: over YSU. I am sorry but that is horrible. Lafayette wasn't even ranked :eek:

Pard4Life
November 21st, 2005, 12:45 PM
for putting in Lafayette :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: over YSU. I am sorry but that is horrible. Lafayette wasn't even ranked :eek:


I think I hear a "YSU.. overrated" chant somewhere.

colgate13
November 21st, 2005, 12:46 PM
Considering we are not the sham of Division I-A, polls mean jack ****.

God, a win would be so sweet, no fellow PL'ers?

gsugt1
November 21st, 2005, 01:01 PM
There are 7-4 teams who should have got in before Lafayette :nod:

Paladin1aa
November 21st, 2005, 01:03 PM
And Ill St. is one of them !! :nod: :nod: :nod:

colgate13
November 21st, 2005, 01:04 PM
There are 7-4 teams who should have got in before Lafayette :nod::boring::boring::boring::deadhorse:deadhorse

bandl
November 21st, 2005, 01:07 PM
There are 7-4 teams who should have got in before Lafayette :nod:

Then all those 7-4 teams should have got in before YSU as well.

ChickenMan
November 21st, 2005, 01:07 PM
http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/695/1020/1600/baby%20crying.jpg

Screamin_Eagle174
November 21st, 2005, 01:07 PM
Montana State should be in the playoffs; they shut down Montana just as Eastern did, and have the same record in the Big Sky. They probably want it more too. The only reason Montana got the bid was their image; overrated. Image+23,000 capacity stadium+die hards=$$$ for NCAA

gsugt1
November 21st, 2005, 01:11 PM
I have nothing to cry about Chicken Man. I agree about the 7-4 teams. Who has Lafayette beaten ? Convince me they belong !!

mainejeff
November 21st, 2005, 01:13 PM
Just think.....if Youngstown State hadn't cancelled their game with Maine and whored themselves out to Pitt.......they might be playing on Saturday.

colgate13
November 21st, 2005, 01:13 PM
I have nothing to cry about Chicken Man. I agree about the 7-4 teams. Who has Lafayette beaten ? Convince me they belong !!

Richmond
Lehigh

Who has YSU beaten?

OL FU
November 21st, 2005, 01:13 PM
I agree. This is absolutely outrageous.

One decent win and a bunch of crappy losses.


What the hell is Georgia Southern in the playoffs for anyway :eek: :D

Pard4Life
November 21st, 2005, 01:17 PM
Richmond
Lehigh

Who has YSU beaten?


Didn't you know?? Slippery Rock!!

ChickenMan
November 21st, 2005, 01:18 PM
I have nothing to cry about Chicken Man. I agree about the 7-4 teams. Who has Lafayette beaten ? Convince me they belong !!

Richmond and Lehigh... both better than ANY YSU win... :nod:

gsugt1
November 21st, 2005, 01:19 PM
I bet Lafayette would lose to most teams in the Socon :D

ChickenMan
November 21st, 2005, 01:21 PM
I bet Lafayette would lose to Elon in the Socon :D


much better chance that LC would beat GSU in the Socon... :D

GannonFan
November 21st, 2005, 01:22 PM
I bet Lafayette would lose to most teams in the Socon :D

Any conference that boasts of both Elon and UT-Chatt being in their conference can truly mean that.

gsugt1
November 21st, 2005, 01:25 PM
Any conference that boasts of both Elon and UT-Chatt being in their conference can truly mean that.
Sagarin Ratings
Appalachian =85 (-4)
GaSouthern =110 (-5)
Furman =120 (+1)
W Carolina =141 (-3)
Wofford =160 (-2)
Lafayette=168
Chattanooga =169 (-1)
The Citadel =177 (+4)
Elon =195 (-1)
FYI:

00bluehen
November 21st, 2005, 01:28 PM
Why are you guys arguing with a fan of a team that almost lost to NORTHEASTERN???

Ronbo
November 21st, 2005, 01:28 PM
Montana State should be in the playoffs; they shut down Montana just as Eastern did, and have the same record in the Big Sky. They probably want it more too. The only reason Montana got the bid was their image; overrated. Image+23,000 capacity stadium+die hards=$$$ for NCAA

You're a moron. You 7-4 teams that think you are the nations best slay me. You lost 4 games, you suck. We beat ISU, Weber St., and Cal Poly, you didn't. You're overrated!

PantherMan
November 21st, 2005, 01:30 PM
Richmond and Lehigh... both better than ANY YSU win... :nod:

Illinois State would take Lehigh and Lafayette to the woodshed. Too bad we'll never know though. The same could be said about YSU. YSU would have given ASU a legitimate threat in the first round. Lafayette will give them a laugher. :deadhorse

nevadagriz
November 21st, 2005, 01:31 PM
Montana State should be in the playoffs; they shut down Montana just as Eastern did, and have the same record in the Big Sky. They probably want it more too. The only reason Montana got the bid was their image; overrated. Image+23,000 capacity stadium+die hards=$$$ for NCAA

Damn SE174 that was pretty harsh coming from a team that needed UM to lose so you could get in!!! After the cat loss the one positive most griz fans found was that 2 big sky teams got in because of the loss. Sorry we have great fan support and can submit bids for games. Good luck in the playoffs and i hope if the Griz can't win it all you guys can. To bad you can't show a little respect for us.
GO GRIZ
GO BIG SKY

rcny46
November 21st, 2005, 01:32 PM
Illinois State would take Lehigh and Lafayette to the woodshed. Too bad we'll never know though. The same could be said about YSU. YSU would have given ASU a legitimate threat in the first round. Lafayette will give them a laugher. :deadhorse


AMEN!

gsugt1
November 21st, 2005, 01:34 PM
Why are you guys arguing with a fan of a team that almost lost to NORTHEASTERN???

That was the first game of the season. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: We were breaking in a new QB. The same team with QB on a roll beat the # 1 team in the country a few weeks back.

nmatsen
November 21st, 2005, 01:36 PM
Montana State should be in the playoffs; they shut down Montana just as Eastern did, and have the same record in the Big Sky. They probably want it more too. The only reason Montana got the bid was their image; overrated. Image+23,000 capacity stadium+die hards=$$$ for NCAA

Screamin_Eagle174,
Don't go calling Montana overated, you and all of your other fans seem to think you are gonna walk into the UNI-Dome this weekend and hand it to us mostly due to the fact "you beat Montana at Wash Griz, har har har", now you are calling them overated so which is it, are they the greatest team in the world that you are basing your run in the playoffs at or an overated team that should not have gotten into the playoffs? I can tell you one team that isn't overated and thats the one you are playing Saturday, 3 top 12 victories the last 4 weeks. We are peaking!
See ya Saturday!

Pard4Life
November 21st, 2005, 01:36 PM
Illinois State would take Lehigh and Lafayette to the woodshed. Too bad we'll never know though. The same could be said about YSU. YSU would have given ASU a legitimate threat in the first round. Lafayette will give them a laugher. :deadhorse

The Patriot League is 2-1 vs. your wonderful Gateway. Colgate lost in the second year of PL eligibility. And then, Lehigh walked into W. Illinois and destroyed them in 2000. Colgate beat W. Illinois in 2003 enroute to the final. Give me a break.

ChickenMan
November 21st, 2005, 01:39 PM
Illinois State would take Lehigh and Lafayette to the woodshed. Too bad we'll never know though.


But we sure DO know this.... some of you GW guys said similar things a few years ago before Lehigh took your Gateway champ 'Western Illinois' to the 'woodshed'... but good... 37-7. :D :p ;)

mlbowl
November 21st, 2005, 01:42 PM
You 7-4 teams that think you are the nations best slay me. You lost 4 games, you suck. We beat ISU, Weber St., and Cal Poly, you didn't. You're overrated!




:nod: :nod: :nod: .......You'd think we could get a thank you from some of these whiney Eastern fans

Pard94
November 21st, 2005, 01:43 PM
I have nothing to cry about Chicken Man. I agree about the 7-4 teams. Who has Lafayette beaten ? Convince me they belong !!

Other than Lehigh and Richmond?

89Hen
November 21st, 2005, 01:45 PM
some of you GW guys said similar things a few years ago before Lehigh took your Gateway champ 'Western Illinois' to the 'woodshed'... but good... 37-7. :D :p ;)
:nod: :lmao: :beerchug:

WTF is all this speculation about 'Illinois State would take Lehigh and Lafayette to the woodshed.' :rolleyes:

PantherMan
November 21st, 2005, 01:47 PM
The Patriot League is 2-1 vs. your wonderful Gateway. Colgate lost in the second year of PL eligibility. And then, Lehigh walked into W. Illinois and destroyed them in 2000. Colgate beat W. Illinois in 2003 enroute to the final. Give me a break.

2-1 all time...last meeting in '03. I'd have to say that this statistic is useless at the present time. Top to bottom, the Gateway is better than the PL. Anyone who doubts that is living in dreamland. ;)

ChickenMan
November 21st, 2005, 01:52 PM
2-1 all time...last meeting in '03. I'd have to say that this statistic is useless at the present time. Top to bottom, the Gateway is better than the PL. Anyone who doubts that is living in dreamland. ;)


Top to bottom is irrelevant come playoff time.

89Hen
November 21st, 2005, 01:53 PM
Top to bottom, the Gateway is better than the PL. Anyone who doubts that is living in dreamland. ;)
:confused: For a fan of a conference who's champ has lost in the first round the last two years.... maybe not TOP to bottom. :p

grizindabox
November 21st, 2005, 01:55 PM
I still believe that it will be difficult for a 4 lose team to get into the playoffs even with the change in the selection process to 7 D-1 wins will get you considered. The committee members are still going to give 9-2 South Carolina St, or 9-2 Coastal Carolina, or 8-3 Lafayette, or 8-3 Lehigh the last spots as opposed to a 4 lose team that does not win an autobid. The 4 lose teams thought they had a chance by the change, but until I see one actually chosen, I think it is a pipe dream. (This statement in no way tries to figure out why Lafayette is in and YSU is out though)

nmatsen
November 21st, 2005, 02:13 PM
:confused: For a fan of a conference who's champ has lost in the first round the last two years.... maybe not TOP to bottom. :p

You ain't the champ unless you get the auto bid in my opinion and they did not have the auto-bid in 2003 so you are a little off.

89Hen
November 21st, 2005, 02:22 PM
You ain't the champ unless you get the auto bid in my opinion and they did not have the auto-bid in 2003 so you are a little off.
Oh, that's right. The Hens destroyed them the following week. :p

http://www2.delawareonline.com/newsjournal/sports/2003/11/images/112903ud01.jpg
http://www2.delawareonline.com/newsjournal/sports/2003/12/images/120603ud03.jpg

nmatsen
November 21st, 2005, 02:23 PM
Oh, that's right. The Hens destroyed them the following week. :p

http://www2.delawareonline.com/newsjournal/sports/2003/11/images/112903ud01.jpg
http://www2.delawareonline.com/newsjournal/sports/2003/12/images/120603ud03.jpg

Hey Retard! Your Hens destroyed everybody that year, I ain't ashamed!

ChickenMan
November 21st, 2005, 02:24 PM
Well you won't have to worry about us this year... :(

kalm
November 21st, 2005, 02:42 PM
Montana State's losses were to Oklahoma State by 5, Portland State, Cal Poly, and EWU. The Big Sky is rated higher than the Gateway. The cats deserved in more than Youngstown.

As for the Griz, they were perhaps a little overated at #2, but so what if that's due to reputation, they've earned it. And I'll say it again, the Big Sky is the #1 rated conference. If the Griz figure out an offense, I can see them getting by Poly and and all the way into the semi's if they get GSU in Missoula. Their D is awesome, and Wa Griz stadium IS all it's cracked up to be.

So how's that for showing the Griz some love, ronbo? Of course I do have them losing in the semi's at EASTERN WASHINGTON's Grizzly Stadium to you know who.

In the interim, Go 1-AA West!

SoCon48
November 21st, 2005, 03:01 PM
Why are you guys arguing with a fan of a team that almost lost to NORTHEASTERN???

Oh, what happened to all that A-10 top to bottom crap?

GannonFan
November 21st, 2005, 03:06 PM
Oh, what happened to all that A-10 top to bottom crap?


Hey, I'll take Northeastern and the points giving 21 to Elon anyday of the week.

89Hen
November 21st, 2005, 03:22 PM
Oh, what happened to all that A-10 top to bottom crap?
Rather a down year for many in I-AA, the A10 included. But Richmond is the ninth different A10 team to make the playoffs in the last four years.

2002: Villanova, Northeastern, Maine
2003: UD, UMass
2004: JMU, W&M, UNH, UD
2005: UNH, Richmond

*****
November 21st, 2005, 03:44 PM
Rather a down year for many in I-AA, the A10 included. But Richmond is the ninth different A10 team to make the playoffs in the last four years...All but three from the PL made it too and all but four of the GFC, SoCon and Big Sky and two of the SLC made it.

colgate13
November 21st, 2005, 04:06 PM
All but three from the PL made it too and all but four of the GFC, SoCon and Big Sky and two of the SLC made it.

True, but percentage wise that is an impressive feat.

SoCon48
November 21st, 2005, 04:11 PM
Hey, I'll take Northeastern and the points giving 21 to Elon anyday of the week.


Elon's sorry but not that sorry. Nkang would rack up the first 3 NE QB's they put in.

89Hen
November 21st, 2005, 04:24 PM
All but three from the PL made it too and all but four of the GFC, SoCon and Big Sky and two of the SLC made it.
:confused:

A10 - 9 of 12 = 75%
PL - 4 of 7 = 57%
GFC - 4 of 8 = 50%
SoCon - 4 of 8 = 50%
BSC - 4 of 8 = 50%
Southland - 5 of 7 = 71%

putter
November 21st, 2005, 04:27 PM
Thanks, Kalm

EWU, or should I say, a healthy EWU is a force to be reckoned with and definitely has a shot to go all the way with how you can put points on the board. The Eagles are one team I don't want to face again but I think if we did it wouuld be in Missoula because of the bidding process..

*****
November 21st, 2005, 04:32 PM
:confused:

A10 - 9 of 11 = 82%
PL - 4 of 7 = 57%
GFC - 4 of 8 = 50%
SoCon - 4 of 8 = 50%
BSC - 4 of 8 = 50%
Southland - 5 of 7 = 71%No other conference is as big as the A-10 so more teams have a chance (not saying its not impressive). BTW, that should read:
A10 - 9 of 12 = 75%

Teams not making the playoffs the last four years:
Southland - two
A10, Patriot - three
Gateway, Southern, Big Sky - four

Hansel
November 21st, 2005, 04:33 PM
:confused:

A10 - 9 of 11 = 82%
PL - 4 of 7 = 57%
GFC - 4 of 8 = 50%
SoCon - 4 of 8 = 50%
BSC - 4 of 8 = 50%
Southland - 5 of 7 = 71%
Only 11 teams in the A-10, if you aren't going to count Towson, you can't count SeLa from the SLC (this is their first year in conf)

89Hen
November 21st, 2005, 04:40 PM
Only 11 teams in the A-10, if you aren't going to count Towson, you can't count SeLa from the SLC (this is their first year in conf)
Doh!

89Hen
November 21st, 2005, 04:43 PM
No other conference is as big as the A-10 so more teams have a chance (not saying its not impressive). BTW, that should read:
A10 - 9 of 12 = 75%

Teams not making the playoffs the last four years:
Southland - two
A10, Patriot - three
Gateway, Southern, Big Sky - four
My fault on the 11, WTF was I smoking. But even so, it's 75% and the percentage makes a LOT more sense than number missing, after all, Independents only have one missing.

Proud Griz Man
November 21st, 2005, 04:55 PM
Montana State should be in the playoffs; they shut down Montana just as Eastern did, and have the same record in the Big Sky. They probably want it more too. The only reason Montana got the bid was their image; overrated. Image+23,000 capacity stadium+die hards=$$$ for NCAA

Come on #174, get off your high horse. UM is 21 wins, versus 10 losses and a tie versus EWU. :cool: :cool: :cool: