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smallcollegefbfan
January 6th, 2009, 02:16 PM
http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=/cfoot2/news/AGN4201666.htm

2008 FCS Football All-America Team

First Team - Offense
Player School Pos. Cl. Ht. Wt.
Armanti Edwards Appalachian State QB Jr. 6-0 185
Herb Donaldson Western Illinois RB Sr 5-11 225
Rashad Jennings Liberty RB Sr 6-1 230
Dane Romero Wofford FB Sr 6-1 218
Ramses Barden Cal Poly WR Sr 6-5 230
John Matthews San Diego WR Sr 6-0 203
Andre Roberts The Citadel WR Jr 5-11 175
Marquez Branson Central Arkansas TE Sr 6-3 248
Joel Bell Furman T Sr 6-8 308
Nick Hennessey Colgate T Sr 6-6 300
Colin Dow Montana G Sr 6-5 300
Matthew McCracken Richmond G Jr 6-4 300
Scott Lemn James Madison C Sr 6-3 285
Kevin Teel Hampton KR Sr 5-9 168
Jeremy Gilchrist Hampton PR Sr 5-10 174

First Team - Defense
Player School Pos. Cl. Ht. Wt.
Jovan Belcher Maine DE Sr. 6-2 228
Greg Peach Eastern Washington DE Sr 6-2 250
Chris Baker Hampton DT Jr 6-2 298
John Faletoese UC Davis DT Sr 6-3 290
Zach East Prairie View LB Sr 6-2 230
Jacque Roman Appalachian State LB Jr 6-1 240
Jason Williams Western Illinois LB Sr 6-3 235
Nathan Williams Murray State LB Sr 6-1 225
K.J. Gerard Northern Arizona CB Sr 6-1 180
William Middleton Furman CB Sr 5-10 186
Colt Anderson Montana S Sr 5-11 185
Mark LeGree Appalachian State S So 6-0 200
Lardarius Webb Nicholls State S Sr 5-11 180
Brett Arnold Massachusetts P Sr 6-0 180
Taylor Long Eastern Kentucky PK Sr 5-11 176

Second Team - Offense
Player School Pos. Cl. Ht. Wt.
Rodney Landers James Madison QB Sr 6-1 215
William Ford South Carolina St RB Jr 5-11 185
Trevyn Smith Weber State RB Jr 5-9 210
Jared Turcotte Maine FB Fr 6-2 220
Terrell Hudgins Elon WR Jr 6-3 235
Marc Mariani Montana WR Jr 6-0 185
Tim Toone Weber State WR Jr 5-10 165
Scott Sicko New Hampshire TE Jr 6-3 225
Cornelius Lewis Tennessee State T Sr 6-5 310
Brent Russum Montana T Sr 6-4 295
Stephen Field Cal Poly G Sr 6-1 280
Aaron Lockwood Southern Illinois G Sr 6-2 303
Raymond Harrison South Carolina St C Sr 6-2 275
Leroy Vann Florida A&M KR Jr 5-9 185
Scotty McGee James Madison PR Jr 5-9 180

Second Team - Defense
Player School Pos. Cl. Ht. Wt.
Larry Hart Central Arkansas DE Jr 6-1 252
Lawrence Sidbury Richmond DE Sr 6-4 260
Melvin Matthews Grambling DT Sr 6-5 305
Everette Pedescleaux Northern Iowa DT Sr 6-6 305
Bobby Abare Yale LB Sr 6-2 210
Andy Romans Lafayette LB Sr 5-11 215
Cristian Sarmento Northern Colorado LB Sr 6-1 220
Andy Schantz Portland State LB Sr 6-1 235
Cortez Gilbert Appalachian State CB Jr 5-11 175
Domonique Johnson Jackson State CB Sr 6-3 218
Tommy Connors SE Louisiana S Jr 6-0 195
Marcus Haywood James Madison S Sr 6-0 190
Jeromy Miles Massachusetts S Jr 6-2 207
Andrew Wilcox Elon PK Sr 6-2 231
Robbie Dehaze Northern Arizona P Sr 6-3 184

Third Team - Offense
Player School Pos. Cl. Ht. Wt.
*Nathan Brown Central Arkansas QB Sr 6-2 209
*Cameron Higgins Weber State QB So 6-2 195
David McCarty Albany RB Jr 6-0 190
Josh Vaughan Richmond RB Sr 6-0 235
Dre Gibbs Western Illinois FB Jr 5-10 225
Dominique Edison Stephen F. Austin WR Sr 6-3 220
Cameron Luke Texas State WR Sr 6-2 211
Tony Washington Sacramento State WR Sr 5-11 185
Cody Nakamura Weber State TE Jr 6-1 215
Paul Carpenter Weber State T Sr 6-6 295
James Williams Harvard T Jr 6-6 285
Jonathan Compas UC Davis G Sr 6-3 298
Eman Naghavi McNeese State G Sr 6-2 290
Cecil Newton Tennessee State C Sr 6-2 305
Larry Warner Southern Illinois KR Sr 5-5 169
Dominic Bolden Liberty PR Sr 5-10 180

Third Team - Defense
Third-Team School Pos. Cl. Ht. Wt.
Greg Miller Villanova DE Sr 6-3 250
James Ruffin Northern Iowa DE Jr 6-4 265
Kyle Hawari Yale DT Sr 6-5 260
Bryce Scanlon Weber State DT Sr 6-3 295
Pierre Banks Appalachian State LB Sr 6-0 210
Endor Cooper Howard LB Sr 6-3 245
Marcellus Speaks Jackson State LB Sr 6-2 235
Jeffrey Williams Gardner-Webb LB So 6-0 210
*Andrew Berry Harvard CB Sr 6-1 175
Korey Lindsey Southern Illinois CB Jr 6-0 187
*Chris Wynn Penn CB Sr 5-9 175
Brandon Gathof Eastern Kentucky S Sr 6-2 200
Beau Hadley Weber State S Jr 6-0 185
Terrell Whitehead Norfolk State S Jr 6-2 200
Andrew Samson Penn PK So 6-1 180
Doug Spada SE Missouri State P Jr 6-1 190


# Cameron Higgins and Nathan Brown and Andrew Berry and Chris Wynn tied with the same number of votes.

Honorable Mention (10 or more points)

OFFENSE

Quarterback: Cole Bergquist, Montana; Ryan Berry, South Dakota State; Jonathan Dally, Cal Poly; Chris Pizzotti, Harvard; Dominic Randolph, Holy Cross.

Running Back: Karrington Bush, Texas State; Corey Lewis, Northern Iowa; Toddrick Penland, McNeese State; Chase Reynolds, Montana; David Sinisi, Monmouth; Jordan Scott, Colgate; Jarvarris Williams, Tennessee State.

Fullback: John Crone, Richmond; Jhamal Fluellen, Maine; Jon Hall, Cal Poly; Marcus Mailei, Weber State; Contrevious Parks, Stephen F. Austin.

Tight End: Abner Brown, Mississippi Valley State; Octavius Darby, South Carolina State; Clay Harbor, Missouri State; Ben Jorden, Appalachian State.

Wide Receiver: Michael Boyle, New Hampshire; Dobson Collins, Gardner-Webb; JaRon Harris, South Dakota State; Tysson Poots, Southern Utah.

Center: Ryan Canary, Maine; Mike Godsil, Liberty; Zach Harrington, North Dakota State; Kheon Hendricks, Delaware; Tommy Hernandez, UC Davis; J.D. Quinn, Montana; Brad Samsa, Youngstown State; Austin Steichen, Northern Iowa, Jonathan St. Pierre, Illinois State.

Guard: Mario Acitelli, Appalachian State; Jeff Bowen, Texas State; Dorian Brooks, James Madison; Dennis Conley, Hampton; Jeff Hansen, Montana State; Chaz Millard, Eastern Illinois

Tackle: Izzy Bauta, Villanova; Vladamir Ducasse, Massachusetts; Ben Ijalana, Villanova; Kyle Link, McNeese State; Raphael Nguti, Albany; Michael Silva, Richmond; Derek Wooten, Wofford

DEFENSE

Defensivie End: Lardarius Anthony, Arkansas-Pine Bluff; Marcus Benard, Jackson State; Tim Knicky, Stephen F. Austin; Kevin Linehan, Weber State; Sherman Logan, Richmond; Adrian Tracy, William & Mary; Dakota Walker, Georgia Southern; Pierre Walters, Eastern Illinois; Scott Vossler, Dayton.

Defensive Tackle: Austin Curtis, Southern Utah; Matt Curtis, Harvard; Brian Jackson, Lehigh; Tom Pandolf, Albany; Ray Williams, Tennessee-Martin.

Linebacker: Chris Covington, Georgia Southern; Bobby Daly, Montana State; Tim Diamond, Lehigh; Seth Goldwire, Wofford; Jarrell Guyton, Morgan State; De'Veon Harris, Northern Iowa; Scott Lewis, Saint Francis; Cyrus Mulitalo, Sacramento State; Osayi Osunde, Villanova; Lee Robinson, Alcorn State.

Cornerback: Jeffrey Jack, Grambling; Josh Morris, Weber State; Courtney Robinson, Massachusetts; Justin Rogers, Richmond.

Safeties: Carnell Clark, Jacksonville State; Max Lerner, Furman; Dontrell Miller, Tennessee-Martin.

Kickers: Robbie Dehaze, Northern Arizona; Andrew Ireland, Texas State; Billy Halgren, Northern Iowa; Jeremy Licea, Alabama A&M; Davis Rodriguez, Lafayette; Dave Stannard, James Madison; Robert Weeks, Northwestern State

Punters: Jason Leo, Lehigh; Derrick Raymer, Sam Houston State; Brian Scullin, Dartmouth; Trevor Ward, Southern Utah.

Kickoff Returners: Jonathan Grimes, William & Mary; A.J. Kizekai, Bucknell; Scotty McGee, James Madison; Lardarius Webb, Nicholls State.

Punt Returners: Elliott Finkley, Jacksonville; Austin Knowlin, Columbia; Marc Mariani, Montana; William Osborne, Texas Southern; Andre Roberts, The Citadel.

danefan
January 6th, 2009, 02:44 PM
Woohooo....someone finally got it right and included McCarty!


Congrats to all selected. All-american honors is a wonderful thing to have plastered on your resume.

smallcollegefbfan
January 6th, 2009, 02:53 PM
Woohooo....someone finally got it right and included McCarty!


Congrats to all selected. All-american honors is a wonderful thing to have plastered on your resume.

Told you to give it time. xthumbsupx

Those worthy will get honored by someone.

Syntax Error
January 6th, 2009, 03:12 PM
Those worthy will get honored by someone.Especially when about 130 players are honored on one list alone, some more than once! xeekx Congrats to SCFF for including the honorable mention players in his post.

smallcollegefbfan
January 6th, 2009, 05:23 PM
Especially when about 130 players are honored on one list alone, some more than once! xeekx Congrats to SCFF for including the honorable mention players in his post.

Do you think I should take the honorable mention off or leave it on?

Reign of Terrier
January 6th, 2009, 05:29 PM
Finally someone respects Romero!!

Syntax Error
January 6th, 2009, 05:47 PM
Do you think I should take the honorable mention off or leave it on?I think when you post lists you should always post the complete list. xnodx You got it right this time! xthumbsupx

smallcollegefbfan
January 6th, 2009, 06:16 PM
I think when you post lists you should always post the complete list. xnodx You got it right this time! xthumbsupx

Just making sure. I usually do post the full lists.

Green26
January 6th, 2009, 06:27 PM
This list was very accurate on the Montana players, altho Quinn could have been a bit higher, in my view. Based only on eyeballing this and the limited knowledge I have, this looks like a very well selected team.

Syntax Error
January 6th, 2009, 06:38 PM
I received this email:
Explain to me how TSN gets THREE Hampton players on the first team...

... as did THREE App State players...

... compared to Richmond's ONE...

... and Rashad Jennings is FIRST team, and Josh Vaughn is THIRD team...

... and how a Furman and App State CB (Cortez Gilbert?) get ranked ahead of Justin Rogers (and Dino Vasso is nowhere on the list!)

They need to do something how they weight that list. There is something seriously wrong when App State, UC Davis and Hampton have more players on the first team than New Hampshire has in total - and that includes honorable mentions!

GATA
January 6th, 2009, 07:35 PM
I received this email:

Rashad Jennings was pretty sick...I think Vaughn was where he deserved to be.

AppAlum2003
January 6th, 2009, 07:41 PM
Cortez Gilbert single-handedly shut down two of the best receiver in FCS last year (Hudgins and Roberts.) Offenses just stopped throwing in his direction... numbers aren't everything.

smallcollegefbfan
January 6th, 2009, 07:42 PM
I received this email:

So are they saying Vaughan should be 1st team just because Richmond won the national title?

Hampton has very good special teams and Chris Baker is the best DT in FCS, which is why he is declaring himself eligible for the NFL Draft.

Gilbert and Middleton are among the best CBs in FCS. Middleton is a likely draft pick and Gilbert is going to be a NFL prospect next year. Middleton put up big numbers and is very fast. Gilbert shut some quality WRs down, as mentioned before. Although I will say that Hudgins is a great FCS player but I don't see him getting drafted by the NFL. Hudgins is a 4.7 or 4.8 guy in the 40 and he is too small for TE. Where does a player without WR speed and TE size land? Probably ends up like a Daniel Wilcox who went undrafted after a dominating season but still made it in the NFL. I could see Hudgins making it in the NFL if he can get with the right team.

Not sure what that person is complaining about on the UNH end. Who besides Sicko can they say is a definite AA selection?

Last year the TSN teams were very skeptical with way too many ASU players just because of their dominance in the semis and finals. The list looks very good and I must say it was the best list I have seen from TSN in a while.

BigHouseClosedEnd
January 6th, 2009, 08:28 PM
I think they got it right on the Richmond kids. If anything, Justin Rogers should be on one of the 3 teams. Honorable Mention isn't bad.

Eric McBride may have deserved some consideration at Linebacker.

Big Dawg
January 6th, 2009, 08:35 PM
Leroy Vann

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1gbXycdTT0

CatMom07
January 6th, 2009, 10:02 PM
Nice to see Karrington Bush get an Honorable Mention (and 3 other Bobcats). Just a Soph, you'll be 'hearing' from him the next 2 years.

Eight Legger
January 6th, 2009, 10:41 PM
I am not sure how Lawrence Sidbury doesn't make the first team on defense. He's going to the NFL and he dominated all year long for us.

seantaylor
January 6th, 2009, 11:03 PM
How Chris Covington was only HM is beyond me. Entirely too many App players on this list. Coulson bias.

Syntax Error
January 6th, 2009, 11:11 PM
I am not sure how Lawrence Sidbury doesn't make the first team on defense. He's going to the NFL...
Chris Baker is the best DT in FCS, which is why he is declaring himself eligible for the NFL Draft... Middleton is a likely draft pick and Gilbert is going to be a NFL prospect next year... Hudgins is a great FCS player but I don't see him getting drafted...What does the NFL have to do with FCS all-american teams? Quick answer, nothing at all.

smallcollegefbfan
January 6th, 2009, 11:16 PM
How Chris Covington was only HM is beyond me. Entirely too many App players on this list. Coulson bias.

This was based on the vote of the media and SIDs around the nation, not his picks. I do think Covington should have been higher but that is how the votes went. Covington is a heck of a player and should be a 3rd teamer but at least he was mentioned. xthumbsupx

smallcollegefbfan
January 6th, 2009, 11:24 PM
What does the NFL have to do with FCS all-american teams? Quick answer, nothing at all.

I imagine the All-America teams as picking who the top players are and not solely on stats. There is a LB from SEMO who had 150 tackles and should be considered an All-American based on numbers but he is not on the list.

As for the CBs I can tell you right now that Gilbert and Middleton being NFL prospects is not why I would put them where they are. My reasons are that they are physical, shut down cover corners, fast, athletic, good ball skills, and productive and it just so happens those things make them prospects as well.

A NFL prospect list and All-America list are two different things but there is some correlation to them at times. If a 6'6 WR runs 4.4s but only has 350 yards receiving then obviously he is not an All-American but if I am picking between one who is 6'5 210 and runs 4.4s and great routes and one who is 6'3 220 and runs 4.8s and has similiar numbers, then I am taking the faster and bigger player.

As you said should not be a direct thing, but you can find some correlation in the two different lists. You can be an All-American and not be a NFL prospect but if I am choosing between two productive players and one is bigger, faster, and has NFL potential I am going to take that one so when he plays on Sundays it looks better than the one who is not.

Lehigh Football Nation
January 6th, 2009, 11:24 PM
What does the NFL have to do with FCS all-american teams? Quick answer, nothing at all.

Ask Ricky Santos :p

smallcollegefbfan
January 6th, 2009, 11:27 PM
Ask Ricky Santos :p

As I said in my last post, you can be an All-American and not be a NFL prospect but if I am picking between two even players in terms of production but one is much more athletic and going to play on Sundays, then I am taking the one who will play on Sundays. One example of a player who will play on Sundays who I would not select for the All-America team is Don Carey of Norfolk State but I would take him ahead of 80 percent of the CBs on this list because he lacks the numbers. Note that I am only saying the NFL potential would affect my selection if the two players have similar production and at CB you can compare the numbers favorably to those players mentioned.

Toman somewhat showed that Santos was a great player but put up huge numbers due to the system. Find me a QB who is the first to pass for 3,000 yards in his school's system and I will take him over a QB who is just one of 5 or 6 to do it in 15 years.

Syntax Error
January 6th, 2009, 11:32 PM
Toman somewhat showed that Santos was a great player but put up huge numbers due to the system.So Toman is somewhat the same as Santos?

smallcollegefbfan
January 6th, 2009, 11:38 PM
So Toman is somewhat the same as Santos?

No he isn't but they are both good college players who put up numbers likely due to the pass happy offense they run.

Here are their stats from their most recent year in college

Toman, 3,110 yards, 28 TDs, 15 INTs, 65.1% passing, 6 rushing TDs
Santos- 2,972 yards, 24 TDs, 7 INTs, 73.1% passing, 9 rushing TDs

Their numbers are comparable. It looks like Toman threw more INTs, which comes with being young.

The QB before Santos in his final year

Granieri- 2,595 yards, 22 TDs, 8 INTs, 61.2% passing, 5 rushing TDs.

Looks like that system puts out productive dual threat QBs. Not saying Toman is going to be as good as Santos but he is going to put up good numbers like him. You could argue that Santos had a better years before his senior year and they were much better than Toman in their respective sophomore years. Santos had the intangibles that Toman does not have yet so I will say that I doubt Toman is ever quite the caliber.

Syntax Error
January 6th, 2009, 11:56 PM
... just saying that UNH QBs produce well due to the system.Like Richie and Armanti right?

smallcollegefbfan
January 7th, 2009, 01:19 AM
Like Richie and Armanti right?

Yes. These spread QBs are going to put up huge numbers as well. Santos, Edwards, Williams, etc. are all great players but a player must put up numbers like they did to be serious All-American candidates. Throwing for 2000 yards and 20 TDs in those offenses is not really impressive like it would be in Wofford's offense for example.

Eight Legger
January 7th, 2009, 07:13 AM
There is not necessarily any correlation between an All-American team and a player's NFL value. My point was that Sidbury was clearly a difference maker for Richmond all season long, and anyone who watched the majority of our games would realize this. Belcher from Maine is a solid player, but he didn't lead his team to a title the way Sid did for us.

I don't play the homer card often, but in this case I will. He should have been on the first team.

PhoenixPhan06
January 7th, 2009, 08:24 AM
Congratulations to both Sr K Andrew Wilcox and Jr WR Terrell Hudgins on another great season!!

The graduation of Wilcox will be a huge blow to our special teams considering he singlehandedly won a few ball games for us this year after leading the country in FG/game.

For Hudgins, this is yet another honor in the stellar career of the SoCon's best ever WR. After breaking the Elon and SoCon records for career receptions, receiving yards, and touchdowns, Hudgins most certainly has his sights set on breaking a few NCAA records in '09 and improving his stock for the 2010 NFL Draft.

mikebigg
January 7th, 2009, 09:19 AM
http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=/cfoot2/news/AGN4201666.htm

2008 FCS Football All-America Team

First Team - Offense
Player School Pos. Cl. Ht. Wt.
Armanti Edwards Appalachian State QB Jr. 6-0 185
Herb Donaldson Western Illinois RB Sr 5-11 225
Rashad Jennings Liberty RB Sr 6-1 230
Dane Romero Wofford FB Sr 6-1 218
Ramses Barden Cal Poly WR Sr 6-5 230
John Matthews San Diego WR Sr 6-0 203
Andre Roberts The Citadel WR Jr 5-11 175
Marquez Branson Central Arkansas TE Sr 6-3 248
Joel Bell Furman T Sr 6-8 308
Nick Hennessey Colgate T Sr 6-6 300
Colin Dow Montana G Sr 6-5 300
Matthew McCracken Richmond G Jr 6-4 300
Scott Lemn James Madison C Sr 6-3 285
Kevin Teel Hampton KR Sr 5-9 168
Jeremy Gilchrist Hampton PR Sr 5-10 174

First Team - Defense
Player School Pos. Cl. Ht. Wt.
Jovan Belcher Maine DE Sr. 6-2 228
Greg Peach Eastern Washington DE Sr 6-2 250
Chris Baker Hampton DT Jr 6-2 298
John Faletoese UC Davis DT Sr 6-3 290
Zach East Prairie View LB Sr 6-2 230
Jacque Roman Appalachian State LB Jr 6-1 240
Jason Williams Western Illinois LB Sr 6-3 235
Nathan Williams Murray State LB Sr 6-1 225
K.J. Gerard Northern Arizona CB Sr 6-1 180
William Middleton Furman CB Sr 5-10 186
Colt Anderson Montana S Sr 5-11 185
Mark LeGree Appalachian State S So 6-0 200
Lardarius Webb Nicholls State S Sr 5-11 180
Brett Arnold Massachusetts P Sr 6-0 180
Taylor Long Eastern Kentucky PK Sr 5-11 176

Second Team - Offense
Player School Pos. Cl. Ht. Wt.
Rodney Landers James Madison QB Sr 6-1 215
William Ford South Carolina St RB Jr 5-11 185
Trevyn Smith Weber State RB Jr 5-9 210
Jared Turcotte Maine FB Fr 6-2 220
Terrell Hudgins Elon WR Jr 6-3 235
Marc Mariani Montana WR Jr 6-0 185
Tim Toone Weber State WR Jr 5-10 165
Scott Sicko New Hampshire TE Jr 6-3 225
Cornelius Lewis Tennessee State T Sr 6-5 310
Brent Russum Montana T Sr 6-4 295
Stephen Field Cal Poly G Sr 6-1 280
Aaron Lockwood Southern Illinois G Sr 6-2 303
Raymond Harrison South Carolina St C Sr 6-2 275
Leroy Vann Florida A&M KR Jr 5-9 185
Scotty McGee James Madison PR Jr 5-9 180

Second Team - Defense
Player School Pos. Cl. Ht. Wt.
Larry Hart Central Arkansas DE Jr 6-1 252
Lawrence Sidbury Richmond DE Sr 6-4 260
Melvin Matthews Grambling DT Sr 6-5 305
Everette Pedescleaux Northern Iowa DT Sr 6-6 305
Bobby Abare Yale LB Sr 6-2 210
Andy Romans Lafayette LB Sr 5-11 215
Cristian Sarmento Northern Colorado LB Sr 6-1 220
Andy Schantz Portland State LB Sr 6-1 235
Cortez Gilbert Appalachian State CB Jr 5-11 175
Domonique Johnson Jackson State CB Sr 6-3 218
Tommy Connors SE Louisiana S Jr 6-0 195
Marcus Haywood James Madison S Sr 6-0 190
Jeromy Miles Massachusetts S Jr 6-2 207
Andrew Wilcox Elon PK Sr 6-2 231
Robbie Dehaze Northern Arizona P Sr 6-3 184

Third Team - Offense
Player School Pos. Cl. Ht. Wt.
*Nathan Brown Central Arkansas QB Sr 6-2 209
*Cameron Higgins Weber State QB So 6-2 195
David McCarty Albany RB Jr 6-0 190
Josh Vaughan Richmond RB Sr 6-0 235
Dre Gibbs Western Illinois FB Jr 5-10 225
Dominique Edison Stephen F. Austin WR Sr 6-3 220
Cameron Luke Texas State WR Sr 6-2 211
Tony Washington Sacramento State WR Sr 5-11 185
Cody Nakamura Weber State TE Jr 6-1 215
Paul Carpenter Weber State T Sr 6-6 295
James Williams Harvard T Jr 6-6 285
Jonathan Compas UC Davis G Sr 6-3 298
Eman Naghavi McNeese State G Sr 6-2 290
Cecil Newton Tennessee State C Sr 6-2 305
Larry Warner Southern Illinois KR Sr 5-5 169
Dominic Bolden Liberty PR Sr 5-10 180

Third Team - Defense
Third-Team School Pos. Cl. Ht. Wt.
Greg Miller Villanova DE Sr 6-3 250
James Ruffin Northern Iowa DE Jr 6-4 265
Kyle Hawari Yale DT Sr 6-5 260
Bryce Scanlon Weber State DT Sr 6-3 295
Pierre Banks Appalachian State LB Sr 6-0 210
Endor Cooper Howard LB Sr 6-3 245
Marcellus Speaks Jackson State LB Sr 6-2 235
Jeffrey Williams Gardner-Webb LB So 6-0 210
*Andrew Berry Harvard CB Sr 6-1 175
Korey Lindsey Southern Illinois CB Jr 6-0 187
*Chris Wynn Penn CB Sr 5-9 175
Brandon Gathof Eastern Kentucky S Sr 6-2 200
Beau Hadley Weber State S Jr 6-0 185
Terrell Whitehead Norfolk State S Jr 6-2 200
Andrew Samson Penn PK So 6-1 180
Doug Spada SE Missouri State P Jr 6-1 190


# Cameron Higgins and Nathan Brown and Andrew Berry and Chris Wynn tied with the same number of votes.

Honorable Mention (10 or more points)

OFFENSE

Quarterback: Cole Bergquist, Montana; Ryan Berry, South Dakota State; Jonathan Dally, Cal Poly; Chris Pizzotti, Harvard; Dominic Randolph, Holy Cross.

Running Back: Karrington Bush, Texas State; Corey Lewis, Northern Iowa; Toddrick Penland, McNeese State; Chase Reynolds, Montana; David Sinisi, Monmouth; Jordan Scott, Colgate; Jarvarris Williams, Tennessee State.

Fullback: John Crone, Richmond; Jhamal Fluellen, Maine; Jon Hall, Cal Poly; Marcus Mailei, Weber State; Contrevious Parks, Stephen F. Austin.

Tight End: Abner Brown, Mississippi Valley State; Octavius Darby, South Carolina State; Clay Harbor, Missouri State; Ben Jorden, Appalachian State.

Wide Receiver: Michael Boyle, New Hampshire; Dobson Collins, Gardner-Webb; JaRon Harris, South Dakota State; Tysson Poots, Southern Utah.

Center: Ryan Canary, Maine; Mike Godsil, Liberty; Zach Harrington, North Dakota State; Kheon Hendricks, Delaware; Tommy Hernandez, UC Davis; J.D. Quinn, Montana; Brad Samsa, Youngstown State; Austin Steichen, Northern Iowa, Jonathan St. Pierre, Illinois State.

Guard: Mario Acitelli, Appalachian State; Jeff Bowen, Texas State; Dorian Brooks, James Madison; Dennis Conley, Hampton; Jeff Hansen, Montana State; Chaz Millard, Eastern Illinois

Tackle: Izzy Bauta, Villanova; Vladamir Ducasse, Massachusetts; Ben Ijalana, Villanova; Kyle Link, McNeese State; Raphael Nguti, Albany; Michael Silva, Richmond; Derek Wooten, Wofford

DEFENSE

Defensivie End: Lardarius Anthony, Arkansas-Pine Bluff; Marcus Benard, Jackson State; Tim Knicky, Stephen F. Austin; Kevin Linehan, Weber State; Sherman Logan, Richmond; Adrian Tracy, William & Mary; Dakota Walker, Georgia Southern; Pierre Walters, Eastern Illinois; Scott Vossler, Dayton.

Defensive Tackle: Austin Curtis, Southern Utah; Matt Curtis, Harvard; Brian Jackson, Lehigh; Tom Pandolf, Albany; Ray Williams, Tennessee-Martin.

Linebacker: Chris Covington, Georgia Southern; Bobby Daly, Montana State; Tim Diamond, Lehigh; Seth Goldwire, Wofford; Jarrell Guyton, Morgan State; De'Veon Harris, Northern Iowa; Scott Lewis, Saint Francis; Cyrus Mulitalo, Sacramento State; Osayi Osunde, Villanova; Lee Robinson, Alcorn State.

Cornerback: Jeffrey Jack, Grambling; Josh Morris, Weber State; Courtney Robinson, Massachusetts; Justin Rogers, Richmond.

Safeties: Carnell Clark, Jacksonville State; Max Lerner, Furman; Dontrell Miller, Tennessee-Martin.

Kickers: Robbie Dehaze, Northern Arizona; Andrew Ireland, Texas State; Billy Halgren, Northern Iowa; Jeremy Licea, Alabama A&M; Davis Rodriguez, Lafayette; Dave Stannard, James Madison; Robert Weeks, Northwestern State

Punters: Jason Leo, Lehigh; Derrick Raymer, Sam Houston State; Brian Scullin, Dartmouth; Trevor Ward, Southern Utah.

Kickoff Returners: Jonathan Grimes, William & Mary; A.J. Kizekai, Bucknell; Scotty McGee, James Madison; Lardarius Webb, Nicholls State.

Punt Returners: Elliott Finkley, Jacksonville; Austin Knowlin, Columbia; Marc Mariani, Montana; William Osborne, Texas Southern; Andre Roberts, The Citadel.

Congrats to all these young men who worked hard and received accolades for their efforts. My special Congrats and THANKS to Melvin Matthews and Jeffrey Jack for the past 4 and 3 years respectively toiling hard for GSU.

WrenFGun
January 7th, 2009, 09:51 AM
Heh, starting to think that emailer is a UNH fan (wasn't me though!).

smallcollegefbfan
January 7th, 2009, 10:44 AM
There is not necessarily any correlation between an All-American team and a player's NFL value. My point was that Sidbury was clearly a difference maker for Richmond all season long, and anyone who watched the majority of our games would realize this. Belcher from Maine is a solid player, but he didn't lead his team to a title the way Sid did for us.

I don't play the homer card often, but in this case I will. He should have been on the first team.

I see what you are saying and Sidbury was very good this year but who do you take off to put him on? Peach won the Buchanan and Belcher was the CAA DEF POY, not Sidbury. Sidbury was the playoff MVP no doubt but Belcher only had one game to show his talent where Sidbury had four.

In this case you can't put a player on just because of NFL talent because his numbers weren't that close to Peach's at the end of the regular season. Peach had 22 TFL and 18 sacks while Sidbury only had 14.5 TFL and 6.5 sacks at the end of the regular season. I only said that I would pick the future NFL player when his stats are closely identical to the one who is not. UCA DE Larry Hart is another player who has comparable or better stats than Sidbury with 43 TT, 21 TFL, and 12 sacks through the regular season.

Lehigh Football Nation
January 7th, 2009, 12:04 PM
I see what you are saying and Sidbury was very good this year but who do you take off to put him on? Peach won the Buchanan and Belcher was the CAA DEF POY, not Sidbury. Sidbury was the playoff MVP no doubt but Belcher only had one game to show his talent where Sidbury had four.

In this case you can't put a player on just because of NFL talent because his numbers weren't that close to Peach's at the end of the regular season. Peach had 22 TFL and 18 sacks while Sidbury only had 14.5 TFL and 6.5 sacks at the end of the regular season. I only said that I would pick the future NFL player when his stats are closely identical to the one who is not. UCA DE Larry Hart is another player who has comparable or better stats than Sidbury with 43 TT, 21 TFL, and 12 sacks through the regular season.

DT John Faleotese of UC Davis had 32 tackles, 7 1/2 TFL, 5 1/2 sacks.

DT Chris Baker of Hampton had 69 tackles, 16 1/2 TFL, 8 1/2 sacks, 13 hurries.

DT Everette Pedescleaux of UNI had 63 tackles, 11 1/2 TFL, 6 1/2 sacks, 3 forced fumbles.

Faleotese's numbers pale in comparison to Pedescleaux's. Baker's numbers are better, but as a member of the MEAC he also played NC A&T and Howard, bar none two of the worst teams in FCS. In contrast, Pedescleaux played at BYU and played in the brutal MVFC. If you had strength-of-schedule indicators, UNI's would blow Hampton's off the map.

One guess as to who's the first teamers and who's the second-teamer.

I don't know if one, or all three, are NFL-caliber players. But to me it's no contest who should be tops on the all-American list.

smallcollegefbfan
January 7th, 2009, 12:07 PM
DT John Faleotese of UC Davis had 32 tackles, 7 1/2 TFL, 5 1/2 sacks.

DT Chris Baker of Hampton had 69 tackles, 16 1/2 TFL, 8 1/2 sacks, 13 hurries.

DT Everette Pedescleaux of UNI had 63 tackles, 11 1/2 TFL, 6 1/2 sacks, 3 forced fumbles.

Faleotese's numbers pale in comparison to Pedescleaux's. Baker's numbers are better, but as a member of the MEAC he also played NC A&T and Howard, bar none two of the worst teams in FCS. In contrast, Pedescleaux played at BYU and played in the brutal MVFC. If you had strength-of-schedule indicators, UNI's would blow Hampton's off the map.

One guess as to who's the first teamers and who's the second-teamer.

I don't know if one, or all three, are NFL-caliber players. But to me it's no contest who should be tops on the all-American list.

I think all three of those players will be NFL bound. Now the UNI and Hampton kids are better players than Faletoese in my opinion but Faletoese has had a great career and I'm sure his name is part why so many people have named him an All-American.

BDKJMU
January 7th, 2009, 12:53 PM
Especially when about 130 players are honored on one list alone, some more than once! xeekx Congrats to SCFF for including the honorable mention players in his post.

Try closer to 200. I don't think they named enough players....

smallcollegefbfan
January 7th, 2009, 12:57 PM
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Especially when about 130 players are honored on one list alone, some more than once! Congrats to SCFF for including the honorable mention players in his post.
Try closer to 200. I don't think they named enough players....


I counted and it was 98 players to be exact. It did look like about 120-150 at first glance but less than 100.

El Gato
January 7th, 2009, 01:02 PM
Interesting to note that Armanti Edwards was CSN's Fab 50 All-American Offensive POTY, Josh's Awards POTY as well as the 1st Team QB, AP 1st team All-American, Walter Camp All-American and of course the winner for the Payton award. Impressive resume!

With the addition of being named to the Sports Network All-American 1st team, I wonder how a voter on the Payton award ballot didn’t even have him in the top 6? xwhistlex

smallcollegefbfan
January 7th, 2009, 01:21 PM
Interesting to note that Armanti Edwards was CSN's Fab 50 All-American Offensive POTY, Josh's Awards POTY as well as the 1st Team QB, AP 1st team All-American, Walter Camp All-American and of course the winner for the Payton award. Impressive resume!

With the addition of being named to the Sports Network All-American 1st team, I wonder how a voter on the Payton award ballot didn’t even have him in the top 6? xwhistlex

Here is a complete list of unanimous 1st team All-Americans.

Pos Name Ht. Wt. Cl. School Coach Hometown (High School)
WR Ramses Barden* 6-6 227 Sr. Cal Poly Rich Ellerson Altadena, Calif. (Flintridge Prep)
QB Armanti Edwards 6-0 184 Jr. Appalachian St. Jerry Moore Greenwood, S.C. (Greenwood)
RB Herb Donaldson 5-11 225 Sr. Western Illinois Don Patterson St. Louis, Mo. (CBC)
DL Jovan Belcher 6-2 228 Sr. Maine Jack Cosgrove West Babylon, N.Y. (West Babylon)
DL Greg Peach 6-3 255 Sr. Eastern Washington Beau Baldwin Vancouver, Wash. (Evergreen)
DB Colt Anderson 5-11 195 Sr. Montana Bobby Hauck Butte, Mont. (Butte)

Congrats to this elite group of players!

BDKJMU
January 7th, 2009, 01:23 PM
I counted and it was 98 players to be exact. It did look like about 120-150 at first glance but less than 100.

I was including the Honorable mentions, to. Quick count cam to 190ish. If there is 26 players on a team (11 each side of ball, kicker, punter and 2 returners) thats over 7 teams worth of players being named "All American". With the other AA lists its from just one team to a 1st-3rd team, from about 30 players- under 100.

I quickly counted 31 from the CAA alone. Almost everyone who got 1st team All CAA was mentioned, along with some 2nd teamers. I would imagine a majority of the 1st team All Conference from a # of the other conferences are on here too. It waters down AA to bestow it on so many players.

smallcollegefbfan
January 7th, 2009, 01:44 PM
I was including the Honorable mentions, to. Quick count cam to 190ish. If there is 26 players on a team (11 each side of ball, kicker, punter and 2 returners) thats over 7 teams worth of players being named "All American". With the other AA lists its from just one team to a 1st-3rd team, from about 30 players- under 100.

I quickly counted 31 from the CAA alone. Almost everyone who got 1st team All CAA was mentioned, along with some 2nd teamers. I would imagine a majority of the 1st team All Conference from a # of the other conferences are on here too. It waters down AA to bestow it on so many players.

Actually 98 is the number of honorable mentions total that I counted. I thought you were solely talking about honorable mention. With the 1st, 2nd and 3rd included then yeah it is more like 190 or so.