Holidays killing FCS Attendence

[UNHFan]

App State 14K Thats shocking I figured major non student support

And Umass Fordham a horrible 6K Umass UNH Regular season game drew 17K

Delaware didnt sell it out ether but a great crowd

I am sure next week will be much better

[umassfan]

App State 14K Thats shocking I figured major non student support

And Umass Fordham a horrible 6K Umass UNH Regular season game drew 17K

Delaware didnt sell it out ether but a great crowd

I am sure next week will be much better

You know that teams underreport correct?

[Houndawg]

SIU gets 6,100 with school out. Next week will be at least double that.

[89Hen]

Delaware didnt sell it out ether but a great crowd
Third largest playoff crowd in I-AA history. xeyebrowx

[dungeonjoe]

19,000+ in Missoula today

[proasu89]

App State 14K Thats shocking I figured major non student support
And Umass Fordham a horrible 6K Umass UNH Regular season game drew 17K

Delaware didnt sell it out ether but a great crowd

I am sure next week will be much better

Seems low, I was at the top in the middle of the field so I couldn't get a good look at the West side.

[proasu89]

19,000+ in Missoula today

I wish you could have made it 19,001+.

[ASU88]

I was at the game and I wold have thought we had more than 14K. The stands were quite full and there was a smattering of folks on the bank. I would have thought 16-17 anyway.

[proasu89]

I was at the game and I wold have thought we had more than 14K. The stands were quite full and there was a smattering of folks on the bank. I would have thought 16-17 anyway.

Maybe the 600+ band members from both schools didn't count

[ERASU2113]

Yea the stat sheet for the ASU game said 14,040......the stands looked completely full except for a few small opening on the west side stands.

The bank had a few people on it, enough that could bare the cold haha.

[Appaholic]

Yeah, the stands were pretty packed and people setting on the hill....thought it would be 16+...figured at least capacity....

[ASU88]

Yeah, the stands were pretty packed and people setting on the hill....thought it would be 16+...figured at least capacity....
Appaholic, maybe the people counting were shocked into inaccuracy by our sobriety. It was a bit strange to be so COMPLETELY lucid for the entire game. xlolx

[Henwatcher]

App State 14K Thats shocking I figured major non student support

And Umass Fordham a horrible 6K Umass UNH Regular season game drew 17K

Delaware didnt sell it out ether but a great crowd

I am sure next week will be much better

All available tickets were sold for UD game. Actual attendance numbers are always "fudged" for playoffs.

[Appaholic]

Appaholic, maybe the people counting were shocked into inaccuracy by our sobriety. It was a bit strange to be so COMPLETELY lucid for the entire game. xlolx

Strange....and hopefully not a sign of things to come......every man has his limits.....BTW, noticed they had not not removed the metal pipe....have to talk to Peacock about that....xnodx

[ERASU2113]

Appaholic, maybe the people counting were shocked into inaccuracy by our sobriety. It was a bit strange to be so COMPLETELY lucid for the entire game. xlolx

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Not to mention the whole campus was still gone for the holiday. xthumbsupx xcoolx

[ASU88]

Heck, you can probably even recall the conversations you had with Citdog today.

[walliver]

The only thing I like about expanding the play-offs to 18 is that the Thanksgiving weekend will be for the play-in games, and the regular playoffs will start after the holiday weekend.

[spelunker64]

Holidays Schmolidays, these games should all sell out...

[Purple For Life]

Gee, the holidays didn't hurt OUR attendance... xwhistlex

[patssle]

Say...this topic seems familiar...from the prior 100 years of football.

[HI54UNI]

Gee, the holidays didn't hurt OUR attendance... xwhistlex

16,015 tonight.

xthumbsupx

[McNeese_beat]

McNeese drew 9,213 in awful conditions. I think most were pleasantly surprised that that many showed up. And the ones who did weren't treated too harshly by the weather. The rain stopped and outside of the humid cold and the wind, it wasn't so bad. The field conditions were bad though.

I suspect if it was 55 degrees and dry, there would have been 15-16k there, then 20k-plus if they would have survived for App State next week.

[Sam Adams]

And Umass Fordham a horrible 6K Umass UNH Regular season game drew 17K


They underreport. There were actually 9-10K at the game. We see this every yr for 1st rd. games.

[JMU-MRD-DAD]

There were definitely some empty seats at The Rock, but a good crowd. I would expect the early start time may have contributed to the lower turnout and the dorms were probably closed until Sunday.

[Cincy App]

No excuses - official attendance reported was as follows:

Delaware - 19,765
Montana - 19,761
UNI - 16,015
ASU - 14,040
McNeese - 9,213
SIU - 6,124
UMass - 5,224
Richmond - 3,253

I know that many complain that teams under-report playoff attendance. On the other hand, maybe some over-report regular season attendance. Either way, these are the only numbers that the NCAA cares about.

It's also easy to look at these numbers and see why Richmond belongs on the road in the second round!

[Ud1Hens]

As long as the NCAA cares about money, there's the evidence why UD gets a home game every time they make the playoffs.

[JMU-MRD-DAD]

No excuses - official attendance reported was as follows:

Delaware - 19,765
Montana - 19,761
UNI - 16,015
ASU - 14,040
McNeese - 9,213
SIU - 6,124
UMass - 5,224
Richmond - 3,253

I know that many complain that teams under-report playoff attendance. On the other hand, maybe some over-report regular season attendance. Either way, these are the only numbers that the NCAA cares about.

It's also easy to look at these numbers and see why Richmond belongs on the road in the second round!

.......very low for Richmond..............

[thmst30]

No we definitely had more than 14k. oh well.

[Eight Legger]

OK, first of all, there were a heck of a lot more than 3,000 people at UR Stadium last night. UMassfan is correct on the underreporting. We do it better than anyone, largely because we are trying to get approval for a new on-campus stadium and the neighbors don't want to see crowds of 10,000+ there. So we underreport now, and then we can say to them "See, we don't draw that many people anyway."

I would say there were at least 7,000 there last night, possibly more like 8,0000. When we hosted Furman two years ago we reported 6,000 when the real number was more like 14,000.

[Sam Adams]

The official attendance as reported for the Massachusetts game is a joke. I was there. 9k-10K attended. This same thing happens every year.

[Maverick]

The UMass AD is the chair of the selection committee and he allows his staff to underreport the attendance figures to the NCAA? Yeah, that is what is going on I am sure.

[Sam Adams]

The UMass AD is the chair of the selection committee and he allows his staff to underreport the attendance figures to the NCAA? Yeah, that is what is going on I am sure.



Not sure what you are referring to but having spent many many many seasons in that stadium, I can tell you that there were easily about 10K on hand yesterday. This EXACT same thing happened last yr as well. Substantial underreporting of attendance. Thats the fact Jack. Take it or leave it.

[OhioHen]

Delaware didnt sell it out ether but a great crowd


There were at least 36 people occupying the row I was in. Official number of seats is 32. Other seating in the immediate vicinity was also over-filled. Might have only been 19,765 official attendance, but for much of the game, it was overcrowded,

[Purple For Life]

I honestly think they underreported, the place seemed as jammed as ever.

[WildcatFan]

Does the NCAA take the ticket money from the games? Is that why everyone supposedly under reports. Wouldn't that be fraud?

[appfan2008]

There were definitely some empty seats at The Rock, but a good crowd. I would expect the early start time may have contributed to the lower turnout and the dorms were probably closed until Sunday.

dorms were open all break for the soul purpose of allowing students the ability to come back early for the game

[Grizaholic17]

I wish you could have made it 19,001+.

It was more like 20,000 even. THe official attendence was 19,752...or close to that. I think more people were there though. The whole south enzone was full except half of one section. So there were definitely 20,000 there.

[Eight Legger]

My understanding is that teams and the NCAA have a wink-wink understanding beyond a certain point of ticket sales. Teams get to keep a certain percentage of the gate beyond a certain point, and the NCAA knows that underreporting occurs. At least that's the rumor. They'd be stupid not to realize it, based on some of these absurd numbers that come in.

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2006
5388 Lafayette @ UMass
3401 UNH @ Hampton
9427 Furman @ Montana St
4400 ILS @ EIU
20077 McNeese St @ Montana
5694 TN-Martin @ SIU
16223 CCU @ App St
11627 JMU @ YSU
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76,237 TOTAL

2007
Delaware - 19,765
Montana - 19,761
UNI - 16,015
ASU - 14,040
McNeese - 9,213
SIU - 6,124
UMass - 5,224
Richmond - 3,253
------------------
93,395 TOTAL

[appfan2008]

2006
5388 Lafayette @ UMass
3401 UNH @ Hampton
9427 Furman @ Montana St
4400 ILS @ EIU
20077 McNeese St @ Montana
5694 TN-Martin @ SIU
16223 CCU @ App St
11627 JMU @ YSU
------------------
76,237 TOTAL

2007
Delaware - 19,765
Montana - 19,761
UNI - 16,015
ASU - 14,040
McNeese - 9,213
SIU - 6,124
UMass - 5,224
Richmond - 3,253
------------------
93,395 TOTAL

I love to see the improvement....!

[JayJ79]

I would say there were at least 7,000 there last night, possibly more like 8,0000.

somehow I think they'd take issue if eighty thousand was reported as three thousand :p xsmiley_wix

[appfan2008]

well there was at least 16 or 17 k in KBS no matter what...

[CowboyUp]

Attendance at MCN-EWU game was only 9k +. This is horrible even for a holiday weekend. McNeese in the past has pulled 13-14k on a holiday weekend for a playoff game. Unfortunately attendance has not been the same since Rita hit the area. The weather the last two weeks has also been a huge factor, as it rained right up until game time last night and last week it rained during the game (attendance last week was 11k +). It's really disappointing because I still remember the days when having to sell standing room tickets was the norm. I just don't understand why people haven't come back since the hurricane. Even during this year they only averaged about 13k which is not good considering how well attendance has been in the past.

[Sam Adams]

UMASS had 10K for Lafeyette last yr and about the same for Fordham this year. Its a wink wink deal. The teams underreport and make a little $$ and the NCAA doesn't care.

[Quann]

I too was at both of UMass' 1st round playoff games over the last 2 years and the 5,200 figure is a joke. Like the other UMass fans earlier stated, our "actual" attendance was around 10K for both of those games.

[patssle]

The numbers in the playoffs are more accurate than you think. They are based on actual tickets sold or something to that extent. Ask somebody in your athletic department, they'll tell you why the number is lower than the regular season.

[ucdtim17]

Yeah, I'm sure people in the athletic departments are purposely lowering the count so they make their schools look like high schools just when there is finally a national spotlight on them. I bet they love having people laugh when they look at the box scores in the morning

[Purple For Life]

Yeah, I'm sure people in the athletic departments are purposely lowering the count so they make their schools look like high schools just when there is finally a national spotlight on them. I bet they love having people laugh when they look at the box scores in the morning

UNI doesn't have that issue. We can only fill the Dome so full (fire codes) and we had 'em jammed in last night!

[saint0917]

The official attendance as reported for the Massachusetts game is a joke. I was there. 9k-10K attended. This same thing happens every year.


I agree, I was at the game too, and no way was their only 5200 at the Umass game. Their was at least 9-10K. Teams always under report.

[Appaholic]

There were definitely some empty seats at The Rock, but a good crowd. I would expect the early start time may have contributed to the lower turnout and the dorms were probably closed until Sunday.

Early start times always affect us.....not located near any urban areas (which is great for charm factor) which makes it tough for families to get up there, find parking, enjoy a tailgate , etc when game starts at noon. App games should never start before 2 and I personally love the 3:30 normal start time. Our noon games when i was in college were always the least attended.......

[SU Jag]

Our attendence was so/so at 53,297, thats less they what were expected.

[appfan2008]

Early start times always affect us.....not located near any urban areas (which is great for charm factor) which makes it tough for families to get up there, find parking, enjoy a tailgate , etc when game starts at noon. App games should never start before 2 and I personally love the 3:30 normal start time. Our noon games when i was in college were always the least attended.......

good point and unfortunately we have to go through another week of 12 noon game

[bkrownd]

I agree, I was at the game too, and no way was their only 5200 at the Umass game. Their was at least 9-10K. Teams always under report.

These are odd comments, because the attendance figures were always blatantly inflated during the 1990's when I was going to the games at McGuirk. You could tell they counted the players, cheerleaders and waterboys back in those days. The "band day" attendance figures were a total joke.

[saint0917]

These are odd comments, because the attendance figures were always blatantly inflated during the 1990's when I was going to the games at McGuirk. You could tell they counted the players, cheerleaders and waterboys back in those days. The "band day" attendance figures were a total joke.

Your right, back in the 90's they would count anyone and everyone, now they deflate the numbers so they can keep more money from the gate.

[appfan2008]

Your right, back in the 90's they would count anyone and everyone, now they deflate the numbers so they can keep more money from the gate.

it is what they all do it seems