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SU DOG
May 25th, 2018, 10:12 AM
According to Athlon:

https://athlonsports.com/college-football/dominating-defensive-players-fcs-conference-2018

Glad to see Samford's Ahmad Gooden on that list.xnodx BTW, Samford just announced that former 4**** LB Jaleel Laguines is transferring to the Bulldogs from the UGA Bulldogs. :)

PaladinFan
May 25th, 2018, 10:35 AM
Is it already that time of year where Samford starts announcing their big school transfers?

SU DOG
May 25th, 2018, 11:18 AM
Read 'em and weep. LOL

Go Lehigh TU owl
May 25th, 2018, 11:20 AM
A Georgetown player gets mentioned!! They've had some very good defensive players over the years so not a HUGE surprise....

PaladinFan
May 25th, 2018, 11:55 AM
Read 'em and weep. LOL


Maybe THIS guy will be the transfer from "Big School U" that actually makes difference. :)

VandalBasher
May 25th, 2018, 12:08 PM
I will just leave this right here: Kaden Ellis.

SU DOG
May 25th, 2018, 12:10 PM
Last year's LB xfer(Smith from Ole Miss) wasn't bad against your Paladins as he had 5 tackles with 2.5 TFL for -6 yards.xcoffeex

PaladinFan
May 25th, 2018, 12:59 PM
Last year's LB xfer(Smith from Ole Miss) wasn't bad against your Paladins as he had 5 tackles with 2.5 TFL for -6 yards.xcoffeex

Of course, how one player did one night against Furman does not actually matter to the overall point.

Smith is a good example. He was a highly recruited high school player. Rarely played at Ole Miss. Transfers to Samford, does not start a single game, and finishes 12th on the team in tackles (as a linebacker). Basically, he's a career backup.

Point being, some of these guys have a bunch of stars as high school players, but really are not much more than reserve players on an FCS squad. Samford seems to pick up one or two such players every season.

SU DOG
May 25th, 2018, 01:41 PM
PF, from reading your posts, I am constantly amazed at your infatuation with Samford Football. Maybe you're a pocket Samford Fan. xlolx

Professor Chaos
May 25th, 2018, 01:45 PM
He doesn't and probably won't have the gaudy tackle numbers a LB needs to be mentioned as the best in the conference or nationally but I'd put this guy up against any LB in the country over the next 3 years and he'd compare pretty favorably in terms of talent I think:

http://gobison.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=7987&path=football

Jabril Cox - LB - #42
http://www.grandforksherald.com/sites/default/files/styles/16x9_620/public/fieldimages/1/1118/1ox15v-zxewmirylp5jknu-arvptn8lqo.jpg?itok=7EjPD0nr

2017 stat line: 75 tackles, 13 TFLs, 4.5 sacks, 1 FF, 3 FRs, 4 PDs, 1 INT

And btw, that was as a part time starter and a freshman.

TheKingpin28
May 25th, 2018, 01:49 PM
He doesn't and probably won't have the gaudy tackle numbers a LB needs to be mentioned as the best in the conference or nationally but I'd put this guy up against any LB in the country over the next 3 years and he'd compare pretty favorably in terms of talent I think:

http://gobison.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=7987&path=football

Jabril Cox - LB - #42
http://www.grandforksherald.com/sites/default/files/styles/16x9_620/public/fieldimages/1/1118/1ox15v-zxewmirylp5jknu-arvptn8lqo.jpg?itok=7EjPD0nr

2017 stat line: 75 tackles, 13 TFLs, 4.5 sacks, 1 FF, 3 FRs, 4 PDs, 1 INT

And btw, that was as a part time starter and a freshman.I don't think NDSU has ever had someone leave colege early, so if that is the case, he could be the first player to leave NDSU and get drafted if he continues to grow. Kid is a freak of nature and had it not been for DeLuca, Farley, and Taylor, he would have challenged for 1st team MVFC.

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PaladinFan
May 25th, 2018, 02:31 PM
PF, from reading your posts, I am constantly amazed at your infatuation with Samford Football. Maybe you're a pocket Samford Fan. xlolx


If you read my posts, you know that I pretty well raise the same question with every time someone brings up a transfer regardless of the school.

I am a pretty firm believer that a guy can have a bunch of stars in high school, get a big college scholarship by virtue of being a purely better athlete than his competition, and really not be that good of a football player. D1 football has a way of weeding those players out pretty quickly.

SU DOG
May 25th, 2018, 02:57 PM
If you read my posts, you know that I pretty well raise the same question with every time someone brings up a transfer regardless of the school.

I am a pretty firm believer that a guy can have a bunch of stars in high school, get a big college scholarship by virtue of being a purely better athlete than his competition, and really not be that good of a football player. D1 football has a way of weeding those players out pretty quickly.

I agree with this. however, the xfer should at least add needed depth to the position. Smith did just that, playing with LBs such as Shaheed Salmon who is, at least for now, on an NFL roster. There are a few exceptions, of course. QB Ingle Martin being THE prime example. I remember that dude out running everything we had in our secondary.

PaladinFan
May 25th, 2018, 03:45 PM
I agree with this. however, the xfer should at least add needed depth to the position. Smith did just that, playing with LBs such as Shaheed Salmon who is, at least for now, on an NFL roster. There are a few exceptions, of course. QB Ingle Martin being THE prime example. I remember that dude out running everything we had in our secondary.


Of course, in Martin's day, Samford wasn't near the quality they are now.

I was trying to recall some of Martin's games against Samford, but to be honest, they run together with Gardner Webb in my memory. In those days, Samford and GWU wore basically identical uniforms down to the bulldog on the helmet.

I have some memories of those games, though I think I tend to confuse some of the games between Furman, Samford, and Gardner Webb. In those days, Samford and GWU always appeared on Furman's schedule and their uniforms were nearly identical (including the bulldog on the helmet).

This was the game I thought was Samford, but it appears to be GWU: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PD1nJL0UNCk

235 pound Martin outruns the GWU defense like they are playing in sand.

JSUSoutherner
May 25th, 2018, 04:07 PM
He doesn't and probably won't have the gaudy tackle numbers a LB needs to be mentioned as the best in the conference or nationally but I'd put this guy up against any LB in the country over the next 3 years and he'd compare pretty favorably in terms of talent I think:

http://gobison.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=7987&path=football

Jabril Cox - LB - #42
http://www.grandforksherald.com/sites/default/files/styles/16x9_620/public/fieldimages/1/1118/1ox15v-zxewmirylp5jknu-arvptn8lqo.jpg?itok=7EjPD0nr

2017 stat line: 75 tackles, 13 TFLs, 4.5 sacks, 1 FF, 3 FRs, 4 PDs, 1 INT

And btw, that was as a part time starter and a freshman.

Cox is a stud. I think the Buchanan Award this year will be between Rozeboom, Cox, and Bridges.

soconjohn
May 25th, 2018, 05:58 PM
Absolutely no issues with Samford being the favorite in the SoCon, but to not rank Furman in its preseason poll, which Athlon has not despite having Elon #10, bothers me...having a Villanova team that as 5-6 last year ranked is a proble...higher than Samford I think...Furman en$ed Elon’s season and has one less starter returning...#comeonman

Thumper 76
May 25th, 2018, 08:41 PM
Cox is a stud. I think the Buchanan Award this year will be between Rozeboom, Cox, and Bridges.

I think Rozeboom winning the award would be a nice twist on the season.


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TheKingpin28
May 25th, 2018, 08:53 PM
I think Rozeboom winning the award would be a nice twist on the season.


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Kemo
May 26th, 2018, 01:24 AM
I think Rozeboom winning the award would be a nice twist on the season.


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I think Rozeboom will have ankle opportunity... errr... ample opportunity, to show he's the best defender in the nation.

PaladinFan
May 26th, 2018, 06:15 AM
Absolutely no issues with Samford being the favorite in the SoCon, but to not rank Furman in its preseason poll, which Athlon has not despite having Elon #10, bothers me...having a Villanova team that as 5-6 last year ranked is a proble...higher than Samford I think...Furman en$ed Elon’s season and has one less starter returning...#comeonman

I think they had Elon 10 and Samford 12.

Of course, Furman returns pretty much everyone, ended Elon’s season (frankly, should have beaten them earlier in the season too), lost to Samford on the road by 6 (again, the refs might have had a say in that outcome).

I don’t have an objection to ranking those two there, but there’s no rational argument for not having Furman right next to them. Unless I am missing something, Furman was playing football the second week of the post season while the other two were watching from the couch.

UpstateBison
May 26th, 2018, 02:23 PM
I nominate this thread for Quickest Thread Drift of the year, Non-Poli Board Category. Well done SU and PF. 👏👏👏


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McNeese72
May 28th, 2018, 08:05 PM
"Oh, no! We suck again!!" Our defense is not going to be any good because we have no bigtime name players.


Doc

PaladinFan
May 29th, 2018, 06:07 AM
"Oh, no! We suck again!!" Our defense is not going to be any good because we have no bigtime name players.


Doc

Funny thing about defenses is that it usually takes 11 players to be any good.

Thumper 76
May 29th, 2018, 07:29 AM
Funny thing about defenses is that it usually takes 11 players to be any good.

Look no further than SDSUs defense last year.


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AmsterBison
May 29th, 2018, 09:31 PM
"Oh, no! We suck again!!" Our defense is not going to be any good because we have no bigtime name players.
Doc

I remember in NDSU's D2 days, Texas A&I (now called Texas A&M Kingsville) had players like:

http://www.profootballhof.com/players/darrell-green/
http://www.profootballhof.com/players/gene-upshaw/
http://www.profootballhof.com/players/john-randle/

The Javelinas had some insane talent... in addition to the 3 NFL HOFers I listed above, they had 8 first round draft picks. Didn't really translate to great defenses though.

cx500d
May 29th, 2018, 11:12 PM
I remember in NDSU's D2 days, Texas A&I (now called Texas A&M Kingsville) had players like:

http://www.profootballhof.com/players/darrell-green/
http://www.profootballhof.com/players/gene-upshaw/
http://www.profootballhof.com/players/john-randle/

The Javelinas had some insane talent... in addition to the 3 NFL HOFers I listed above, they had 8 first round draft picks. Didn't really translate to great defenses though.

You forgot Johnny Bailey


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