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ASU33
December 19th, 2017, 01:00 PM
I know the decline in attendance for college football has continued over the past few years but how did your conference do as far as attendance this year?

The SWAC's numbers for 2017

Alabama A&M-6,171
Alabama State-14,615
Alcorn State-13,846
Arkansas Pine-Bluff-5,171
Grambling State-14,952
Jackson State-17,958
Mississippi Valley State-4,819
Prairie View A&M- 17,803
Southern- 12,832
Texas Southern- 8,799

AmsterBison
December 19th, 2017, 01:48 PM
NDSU worst regular-season attendance was 18,308 for Robert Morris. Of course, that was on September 23rd and, depending on who you talked to, that was the day the world was supposed to end because of "something something Revelations 12:1-6." :)

Post-season is counted differently but official attendance for Wofford was 17006 or something.

McNeese72
December 19th, 2017, 01:56 PM
NDSU worst regular-season attendance was 18,308 for Robert Morris. Of course, that was on September 23rd and, depending on who you talked to, that was the day the world was supposed to end because of "something something Revelations 12:1-6." :)

Post-season is counted differently but official attendance for Wofford was 17006 or something.

I don't think you read his question correctly. I think he was talking about the average attendance for each team in your conference.

Doc

Thumper 76
December 19th, 2017, 02:22 PM
I don't think you read his question correctly. I think he was talking about the average attendance for each team in your conference.

Doc

He’s a bison fan. The sole reason for any thread is to pump up ndsu ;)


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AmsterBison
December 19th, 2017, 02:42 PM
He’s a bison fan. The sole reason for any thread is to pump up ndsu ;)

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Hey, that's not true. Sometimes I crap on SDSU, but it hardly seems worth it this week seeing the giant dump you took on yourselves on Saturday. :) Just glad you guys made it back to Brookings safely (amazed that the Bunnies didn't turn the bus over on the way to the airport.)

Tell ya what: Start funding the FCS playoffs by putting a $1 charge per attendee on and then reported attendance will mean something. Right now, a lot of schools are calculating attendance using a combination of wishful thinking and dead reckoning multiplied by 1.5.

You could fund a helluva playoff with $5.4 million... only thing is that I think the headlines would read "FCS Attendance Drops 50% After $1 Surcharge Added to Ticket Prices."

LehighU11
December 19th, 2017, 02:43 PM
Patriot League w/ number of home games in parentheses
Bucknell 2,886 (6)
Colgate 4,788 (5)
Fordham 4,681 (5)
Georgetown 2,166 (5)
Holy Cross 7,200 (5)
Lafayette 5,589 (5)
Lehigh 7,137 (6)

Worth noting that without the Lehigh-Lafayette game, LU's 5-game average is 5,511 thanks to very underwhelming crowds for Nova, Yale, and Penn.

Pretty solid numbers for Holy Cross, thanks to good crowds for UNH (7,906), Georgetown (9,063!!), and Lafayette (7,764). The Monmouth game really dragged down their average. Those numbers really fit the narrative that Sader87 pushes: schedule historical, regional foes and don't bother with the Monmouths of FCS.

Twentysix
December 19th, 2017, 02:46 PM
Hey, that's not true. Sometimes I crap on SDSU, but it hardly seems worth it this week seeing the giant dump you took on yourselves on Saturday. :) Just glad you guys made it back to Brookings safely (I just assumed that you'd turn over the bus on the way to the airport.)

Tell ya what: Start funding the FCS playoffs by putting a $1 charge per attendee on all FCS schools and then attendance will mean something. Right now, a lot of schools are calculating attendance using a combination of wishful thinking and dead reckoning multiplied by 1.5.Agreed, unless a stadium is nearly at capacity the regular season numbers are from a dream their ad had one night. There are plenty of Oral Roberts scattered throughout this division.

Look at the picture, how many people do you see? Cause your AD sees 2,175.

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Twentysix
December 19th, 2017, 03:01 PM
JMU had between 23118 and 25993 fans at each and every game in which attendance had no bearing on anything. Curiously they had between 13490 and 16528 people at the games in which they had to hand money to a third party based on attendance. xsmiley_wix

mcveyrl
December 19th, 2017, 03:09 PM
JMU had between 23118 and 25993 fans at each and every game in which attendance had no bearing on anything. Curiously they had between 13490 and 16528 people at the games in which they had to hand money to a third party based on attendance. xsmiley_wix

Didn’t know we were in the MVFC....I guess we need to pick up our 2016 MVFC rings.

KPSUL
December 19th, 2017, 03:14 PM
CAA:

JMU 21,724
DE 16,648
UNH 11,024
W&M 8,236
UR 8,185
SB 7,355
Elon 7,020
ME 6,858
UA 5,802
Nova 5649
Tow 5,377
URI 4,488

Derby City Duke
December 19th, 2017, 03:17 PM
#s based on the 'Schedule and Statistics' page from the CAA's website:

Albany............................................ 5,802 (5)
Delaware........................................ 16,649 (6)
Elon,w/1 playoff game...................... 7,202 (6) 7,837 for 5 regular season games (playoff game decreased avg. by 10%)
JMU, w/3 playoff games.................... 21,724 (9) 24, 842 for 6 regular season games (playoffs decreased avg. by 12.5%)
Maine............................................. 6,859 (5)
New Hampshire w/1 playoff game...... 11,024 (6) 12,752 for 5 regular season games (playoff game decreased avg. by 13.6%)
Rhode Island................................... 4,448 (5)
Richmond........................................ 8,185 (5)
Stony Brook w/1 playoff game........... 7,356 (7) 7,993 for 6 regular season games (playoff game decreased avg. by 8%)
Towson........................................... 5,377 (5)
Villanova......................................... 5,649 (5)
William & Mary................................. 8,237 (5)

All 4 playoff schools took a hit for the playoffs.

Only game Richmond did not sell out was the William & Mary game, one of the South's oldest rivalries.

Villanova drew 89% more fans vs. Lafayette than they did against their biggest conference rival, UDel.

JMU's game vs. Richmond was the 2nd lowest regular season attendance (biggest rival). Villanova had the highest attendance @ 25,993, coinciding with ESPN College Gameday's visit.

UDel had the largest road crowd, 62K+ @ Virginia Tech, followed by JMU vs. ECU (40K+) and W&M vs. Virginia (38K+).

ST_Lawson
December 19th, 2017, 03:23 PM
Attendance?.....at our place?

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cx500d
December 19th, 2017, 03:27 PM
Villanova drew 89% more fans vs. Lafayette than they did against their biggest conference rival, UDel.




I guess the Villanova fans are tired of a sure ass-whooping....

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Attendance?.....at our place?

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Did you have any home games this year?

ST_Lawson
December 19th, 2017, 03:33 PM
Did you have any home games this year?

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katss07
December 19th, 2017, 03:36 PM
About 7,800 was SHSU’s avg attendance for the regular season. Not too bad for the Kats, although it could be much better. We had a couple of big games with giant crowds. Nearly 13,000 against Nicholls. Still can’t tell you why the KSU attendance was 5,000. There were more people at that game then the homecoming game. At least 7,500. That being said, there were much less than 6,000 at the last game of the year against HBU. The student section had maybe 20 people in it? Not even joking.

SFA did well again. They always seem to draw a crowd. Averaged about 11,500 this season. Only had less than 10,000 once. Nice work, Jacks.

McNesse always gets a crowd. Their lowest attended game was nearly equal to SHSU’s average.

As usual, UIW, HBU, Southeastern have trouble getting more than 4,000.

PurpleStreamers
December 19th, 2017, 03:54 PM
JMU had between 23118 and 25993 fans at each and every game in which attendance had no bearing on anything. Curiously they had between 13490 and 16528 people at the games in which they had to hand money to a third party based on attendance. xsmiley_wix

Debated whether this even warranted a response, but there's enough of our own Decemberists on here, myself included though it's been a few Decembers, that I wanted to explain rationally for those that aren't picking up the sarcasm.

I was at almost every one of those games and those numbers are accurate. Of the six home regular season games, one was the opener/banner unveiling, two more were good weather September games including a conference game for a team that had just won a NC and beaten ECU, one was Homecoming (always a sellout), one was Family Weekend (always a sellout), and the last one turned out to be Gameday 2.0.

Three playoff games in a row in December after all those other trips last year and this year? Was never gonna be the same as regular season for all the reasons we've all discussed ad nauseam on AGS and our own boards. Plus you can't really give away tickets to sponsors or local charities or groups the same way on a few days notice in December when you're also having to pay the NCAA freight on those.

Yes, yes, I know NDSU doesn't see the drop off and hats off to 'em. But as we've also said, they're the state/regional headliner at this point, something JMU may never be in its crowded markets.

Overall I was really pleased with the response from fans coming off the title. We can definitely be a big game/big event fan-base and the consistent turnout and an infusion of younger alums coming off some building energy from both the Withers and Houston eras was great to see.

Catatonic
December 19th, 2017, 04:19 PM
About 7,800 was SHSU’s avg attendance for the regular season. Not too bad for the Kats, although it could be much better. We had a couple of big games with giant crowds. Nearly 13,000 against Nicholls. Still can’t tell you why the KSU attendance was 5,000. There were more people at that game then the homecoming game. At least 7,500. That being said, there were much less than 6,000 at the last game of the year against HBU. The student section had maybe 20 people in it? Not even joking.

SFA did well again. They always seem to draw a crowd. Averaged about 11,500 this season. Only had less than 10,000 once. Nice work, Jacks.

McNesse always gets a crowd. Their lowest attended game was nearly equal to SHSU’s average.

As usual, UIW, HBU, Southeastern have trouble getting more than 4,000.

ACU averaged 8,500

melloware13
December 19th, 2017, 04:20 PM
UNH is inflated with their tailgating requiring a ticket policy, which results in games that have attendance figures that would fill either Delaware Stadium or Bridgeforth Stadium

katss07
December 19th, 2017, 04:28 PM
ACU averaged 8,500
Yep, good for you guys. Way to open up that new stadium. Looks very nice on TV. Once ACU becomes a contender, maybe I will take a trip out there.

Twentysix
December 19th, 2017, 04:30 PM
Didn’t know we were in the MVFC....I guess we need to pick up our 2016 MVFC rings.

I don't think a team needs to be in the MVFC to demonstrate that most programs just throw **** at the wall regarding regular season attendance. There is no accountability and its something that really doesn't matter.

UNHWildcat18
December 19th, 2017, 06:32 PM
UNH is inflated with their tailgating requiring a ticket policy, which results in games that have attendance figures that would fill either Delaware Stadium or Bridgeforth Stadium

Funny thing you actually don't need a ticket anymore but I think people buy them thinking you do. Homecoming was inflated as usual though

mcveyrl
December 19th, 2017, 06:37 PM
I don't think a team needs to be in the MVFC to demonstrate that most programs just throw **** at the wall regarding regular season attendance. There is no accountability and its something that really doesn't matter.

It was more a comment that the thread called for how did YOUR conference do in attendance...you just couldn’t stay away from the Dukes...and I just figured I’d point out we ruled the MVFC last year. 😁

KPSUL
December 19th, 2017, 09:01 PM
UNH is inflated with their tailgating requiring a ticket policy, which results in games that have attendance figures that would fill either Delaware Stadium or Bridgeforth Stadium

Come on up Oct 20th next year and see that we actually have a gate on the stadium now!

KPSUL
December 19th, 2017, 09:03 PM
Funny thing you actually don't need a ticket anymore but I think people buy them thinking you do. Homecoming was inflated as usual though

Hush up! We need the extra revenue.

TheKingpin28
December 19th, 2017, 09:05 PM
Come on up Oct 20th next year and see that we actually have a gate on the stadium now!

You talking about the archway (which helps with that endzone to make it seem more "closed") or the 4 foot high fence around the track?

KPSUL
December 19th, 2017, 09:15 PM
You talking about the archway (which helps with that endzone to make it seem more "closed") or the 4 foot high fence around the track?

No, I mean you used to be able to sneak through the woods on to Boulder Field (The main tailgating area) and then walk right to the edge of the field or find a seat in the home side stands or the visitors bleachers. They somewhat controlled that by checking to see if every occupant of a vehicle diving on to Boulder Field had a game ticket.

Redbird 4th & short
December 19th, 2017, 09:33 PM
MVFC home attendance, including home playoff games. ISU counts butts in seats, not tickets sold.

Team ----- G - Total --- Avg
Illinois St 5 - 57,200 11,440 .. highest per game in Spack era (since 2009)
Indiana St 5 - 22,444 4,489
Missouri St 5 - 41,973 8,395
North Dakota St 9 - 164,966 18,333
No. Iowa 6 - 58,175 9,696
South Dakota 5 - 46,736 9,347
South Dakota St 8 - 95,951 11,994
So. Illinois 5 - 33,809 6,762
West. Illinois 4 - 13,907 3,477
Youngstown St 6 - 85,220 14,203

TheKingpin28
December 19th, 2017, 10:42 PM
No, I mean you used to be able to sneak through the woods on to Boulder Field (The main tailgating area) and then walk right to the edge of the field or find a seat in the home side stands or the visitors bleachers. They somewhat controlled that by checking to see if every occupant of a vehicle diving on to Boulder Field had a game ticket.

Alright. I know where you are referring to now. I was surprised how they literally carved out Durham when I was there this past summer, but the remodel looked amazing. I will say this though, I enjoyed being able to walk around and explore the stadium as it was "open" the day I was there.

Iridebikes
December 20th, 2017, 08:53 AM
For the Big Sky:
Cal Poly---------7520
EWU------------10123
Idaho State----6297
Montana-------23155
Montana St.---18617
UND-----------10428
NAU-----------6571
UNC-----------4383
Portland St.--4136
Sac State-----8315
S. Utah-------9538
Weber St.----8799

yorkcountyUNHfan
December 20th, 2017, 10:26 AM
Hush up! We need the extra revenue.

We should bump the price of tickets and refund $10 cash if you actually leave the tailgate area and enter the game

ElCid
December 20th, 2017, 04:07 PM
We should bump the price of tickets and refund $10 cash if you actually leave the tailgate area and enter the game

We got that issue as well.

McNeese72
December 21st, 2017, 08:52 AM
McNesse always gets a crowd. Their lowest attended game was nearly equal to SHSU’s average.



Our crowd have sucked for the last 10-15 years. Not near what they used to be.

Doc

McNeese72
December 21st, 2017, 09:04 AM
About 7,800 was SHSU’s avg attendance for the regular season. Not too bad for the Kats, although it could be much better. We had a couple of big games with giant crowds. Nearly 13,000 against Nicholls. Still can’t tell you why the KSU attendance was 5,000. There were more people at that game then the homecoming game. At least 7,500. That being said, there were much less than 6,000 at the last game of the year against HBU. The student section had maybe 20 people in it? Not even joking.

SFA did well again. They always seem to draw a crowd. Averaged about 11,500 this season. Only had less than 10,000 once. Nice work, Jacks.

McNesse always gets a crowd. Their lowest attended game was nearly equal to SHSU’s average.

As usual, UIW, HBU, Southeastern have trouble getting more than 4,000.

Looked at the attendance in the box scores of all of McNeese's home games. Added them up and divided by the games to find the average and it was 9939. That sucks. I can remember when we used to average 15,000+.

Doc

ElCid
December 21st, 2017, 10:47 AM
Looked at the attendance in the box scores of all of McNeese's home games. Added them up and divided by the games to find the average and it was 9939. That sucks. I can remember when we used to average 15,000+.

Doc

It's not you guys. It's everyone, except a few outliers where there isn't anything else to do and/or, they have had a good run (e.g., Montana, JMU, NDSU). It's societal and technological influences. Most schools need to figure out a better game day experience to bring folks back. Look at the SWAC and MEAC. It certainly isn't the quality of the teams in "most" cases there. But they continue to have larger crowds than would be expected. It can be done. It just needs some smart minds to figure it out. Right now too many athletic departments are saddled with people who have little imagination and continue to use technical, cliched thinking that results in occasional, marginal increases for which they can claim credit. We need fresh, novel, and original strategies which are also tailored to each schools situation and traditions in order to stem the tide. It can be done.

CenMEBlackBearFan
December 22nd, 2017, 09:00 AM
Funny thing you actually don't need a ticket anymore but I think people buy them thinking you do. Homecoming was inflated as usual though

Guess you just ask the Maine fans to purchase tickets as I know we always get asked to show our tickets to tailgating personnelxrolleyesx Not a big deal as I can't imagine an away fan not buying a ticket for the game.
Sort of wish Maine would require a purchased game ticket to tailgate as it would help with our sales plus we don't even charge for tailgating anymorexdrunkyx

BEAR
December 22nd, 2017, 03:41 PM
Looked at the attendance in the box scores of all of McNeese's home games. Added them up and divided by the games to find the average and it was 9939. That sucks. I can remember when we used to average 15,000+.

Doc

You did better than us. We averaged 6 - 8k actual but record shows 8550 average. Stadium holds 8500 to 9000. Best game was SHSU with over 11k. Worst game was ACU at 4200.