AGS Poll Results - Week 4 - 09/25/2017

[AGSPoll]

AGS Poll Results - Week 4 - 09/25/2017



Rank
Team:
Total Points
First Place Votes
Previous Wk.


1
James Madison Dukes
1996
76
1


2
North Dakota State Bison
1916
4
2


3
South Dakota State Jackrabbits
1808

3


4
Sam Houston State Bearkats
1733

4


5
Jacksonville State Gamecocks
1627

5


6
Youngstown State Penguins
1540

6


7
South Dakota Coyotes
1390

10


8
Wofford Terriers
1355

8


9
Western Illinois Leathernecks
1345

14


10
Illinois State Redbirds
1258

12


11
The Citadel Bulldogs
1211

11


12
Central Arkansas Bears
1107

13


13
Eastern Washington Eagles
990

15


14
Villanova Wildcats
796

7


15
New Hampshire Wildcats
753

16


16
Albany Great Danes
740

24


17
Weber State Wildcats
719

20


18
North Carolina A&T Aggies
691

18


19
Richmond Spiders
558

9


20
Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
533

28


21
Elon Phoenix
509

32


22
Stony Brook Seawolves
367

26


23
Montana State Bobcats
147

NR


24
Western Carolina Catamounts
139

NR


25
Southern Illinois Salukis
104

31

















ORV:





26
Samford Bulldogs
93

17


27T
Maine Black Bears
67

27


27T
William & Mary Tribe
67

33


29
Tennessee State Tigers
62

21


30
Chattanooga Mocs
47

35


31
Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
41

38


32
Grambling State Tigers
39

39


33
Princeton Tigers
34

37


34
McNeese State Cowboys
33

NR


35
Holy Cross Crusaders
32

23


36
Pennsylvania Quakers
25

NR


38T
Nicholls State Colonels
19

22


38T
North Dakota Fighting Hawks
19

19


39
Yale Bulldogs
15

NR


40
Northern Iowa Panthers
13

34










Most Significant Win:
Elon Phoenix






Most Significant Loss:
Richmond Spiders



























Fell Out Of Poll:






Colgate Raiders






Idaho State Bengals






Montana Grizzlies






Southern Utah Thunderbirds

[POD Knows]

Hello POD Knows,

We have received your AGS Top 25 vote on 9/24/2017 7:53:14

Your vote is listed below.


1: James Madison Dukes
2: North Dakota State Bison
3: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
4: Sam Houston State Bearkats
5: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
6: Youngstown State Penguins
7: South Dakota Coyotes
8: Western Illinois Leathernecks
9: Illinois State Redbirds
10: Wofford Terriers
11: The Citadel Bulldogs
12: Central Arkansas Bears
13: New Hampshire Wildcats
14: Weber State Wildcats
15: North Carolina A&T Aggies
16: Eastern Washington Eagles
17: Albany Great Danes
18: Villanova Wildcats
19: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
20: Richmond Spiders
21: Southern Illinois Salukis
22: Elon Phoenix
23: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
24: Stony Brook Seawolves
25: McNeese State Cowboys

POD Knows

The Most Significant Win: Elon Phoenix
The Most Significant Loss: Villanova Wildcats
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Missouri Valley Football Conference


Well, my poll is pretty top heavy with MVFC but I see the final poll is as well. I really didn't know what to do with the 25 slot, it was down to WCU, Montana State and Mcneese, I am pretty sure I made the wrong choice.

[Professor Chaos]

The Wedge blog post for this week's poll: http://thefcswedge.com/ags-poll/ags-poll-top-25-week-4-results/

A few interesting notes:


The MVFC and CAA account for nearly 60% of this top 25 (14 of 25).
There are 6 MVFC teams in the top 10.
With 104 points #25 SIU would've been #29 in each of the first four polls of the season. So it appears the voters are starting to form a consensus among the top 20 teams or so and not spreading out votes to as many teams.

[BisonFan02]

1: James Madison Dukes
2: North Dakota State Bison
3: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
4: Sam Houston State Bearkats
5: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
6: Wofford Terriers
7: South Dakota Coyotes
8: Western Illinois Leathernecks
9: Youngstown State Penguins
10: Illinois State Redbirds
11: Central Arkansas Bears
12: Eastern Washington Eagles
13: The Citadel Bulldogs
14: Weber State Wildcats
15: Albany Great Danes
16: Villanova Wildcats
17: Stony Brook Seawolves
18: Southern Illinois Salukis
19: New Hampshire Wildcats
20: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
21: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
22: Elon Phoenix
23: Montana State Bobcats
24: Western Carolina Catamounts
25: North Carolina A&T Aggies

BisonFan02

The Most Significant Win: Albany Great Danes
The Most Significant Loss: Richmond Spiders

[IBleedYellow]

USD is too high when you take a look @ Bowling Green and UND's performances since.

[Professor Chaos]

USD is too high when you take a look @ Bowling Green and UND's performances since.
I think WIU should be above USD but I think USD should be above YSU so it ends up the same for me in the end.


My top 25:

1: James Madison Dukes
2: North Dakota State Bison
3: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
4: Sam Houston State Bearkats
5: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
6: Western Illinois Leathernecks
7: South Dakota Coyotes
8: Illinois State Redbirds
9: Wofford Terriers
10: Eastern Washington Eagles
11: Central Arkansas Bears
12: Youngstown State Penguins
13: New Hampshire Wildcats
14: Albany Great Danes
15: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
16: Villanova Wildcats
17: The Citadel Bulldogs
18: Elon Phoenix
19: Weber State Wildcats
20: Stony Brook Seawolves
21: Richmond Spiders
22: North Carolina A&T Aggies
23: Western Carolina Catamounts
24: Dartmouth Big Green
25: Holy Cross Crusaders

[BisonBacker]

AGS Poll Results - Week 4 - 09/25/2017



Rank
Team:
Total Points
First Place Votes
Previous Wk.


1
James Madison Dukes
1996
76
1


2
North Dakota State Bison
1916
4
2


3
South Dakota State Jackrabbits
1808

3


4
Sam Houston State Bearkats
1733

4


5
Jacksonville State Gamecocks
1627

5


6
Youngstown State Penguins
1540

6


7
South Dakota Coyotes
1390

10


8
Wofford Terriers
1355

8


9
Western Illinois Leathernecks
1345

14


10
Illinois State Redbirds
1258

12


11
The Citadel Bulldogs
1211

11


12
Central Arkansas Bears
1107

13


13
Eastern Washington Eagles
990

15


14
Villanova Wildcats
796

7


15
New Hampshire Wildcats
753

16


16
Albany Great Danes
740

24


17
Weber State Wildcats
719

20


18
North Carolina A&T Aggies
691

18


19
Richmond Spiders
558

9


20
Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
533

28


21
Elon Phoenix
509

32


22
Stony Brook Seawolves
367

26


23
Montana State Bobcats
147

NR


24
Western Carolina Catamounts
139

NR


25
Southern Illinois Salukis
104

31

















ORV:





26
Samford Bulldogs
93

17


27T
Maine Black Bears
67

27


27T
William & Mary Tribe
67

33


29
Tennessee State Tigers
62

21


30
Chattanooga Mocs
47

35


31
Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
41

38


32
Grambling State Tigers
39

39


33
Princeton Tigers
34

37


34
McNeese State Cowboys
33

NR


35
Holy Cross Crusaders
32

23


36
Pennsylvania Quakers
25

NR


38T
Nicholls State Colonels
19

22


38T
North Dakota Fighting Hawks
19

19


39
Yale Bulldogs
15

NR


40
Northern Iowa Panthers
13

34










Most Significant Win:
Elon Phoenix





Most Significant Loss:
Richmond Spiders


























Fell Out Of Poll:






Colgate Raiders






Idaho State Bengals






Montana Grizzlies






Southern Utah Thunderbirds





























Hello BisonBacker,

We have received your AGS Top 25 vote on 9/24/2017 8:25:17

Your vote is listed below.


1: James Madison Dukes
2: North Dakota State Bison
3: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
4: Youngstown State Penguins
5: Sam Houston State Bearkats
6: Wofford Terriers
7: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
8: The Citadel Bulldogs
9: Central Arkansas Bears
10: South Dakota Coyotes
11: Western Illinois Leathernecks
12: Illinois State Redbirds
13: Villanova Wildcats
14: Weber State Wildcats
15: Eastern Washington Eagles
16: Richmond Spiders
17: New Hampshire Wildcats
18: Albany Great Danes
19: North Carolina A&T Aggies
20: Stony Brook Seawolves
21: Elon Phoenix
22: McNeese State Cowboys
23: Montana State Bobcats
24: Southern Illinois Salukis
25: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks

BisonBacker

The Most Significant Win: Western Illinois Leathernecks
The Most Significant Loss: Villanova Wildcats
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Missouri Valley Football Conference

http://www.anygivensaturday.com/agslogo200.jpg

[citdog]

USD is too high when you take a look @ Bowling Green and UND's performances since.

Yep.

[IBleedYellow]

I think WIU should be above USD but I think USD should be above YSU so it ends up the same for me in the end.

I agree. Oh well I can't complain too much, I'm not voting :P

[Thumper 76]

Hello Thumper 76,

We have received your AGS Top 25 vote on 9/24/2017 13:22:42

Your vote is listed below.


1: James Madison Dukes
2: North Dakota State Bison
3: Sam Houston State Bearkats
4: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
5: Youngstown State Penguins
6: Western Illinois Leathernecks
7: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
8: Central Arkansas Bears
9: Illinois State Redbirds
10: South Dakota Coyotes
11: Wofford Terriers
12: Albany Great Danes
13: The Citadel Bulldogs
14: North Carolina A&T Aggies
15: Villanova Wildcats
16: Montana State Bobcats
17: Western Carolina Catamounts
18: New Hampshire Wildcats
19: Weber State Wildcats
20: Stony Brook Seawolves
21: Eastern Washington Eagles
22: Richmond Spiders
23: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
24: Elon Phoenix
25: Southern Illinois Salukis

Thumper 76

The Most Significant Win: Albany Great Danes
The Most Significant Loss: North Dakota Fighting Hawks
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Missouri Valley Football Conference




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[POD Knows]

USD is too high when you take a look @ Bowling Green and UND's performances since.Who are you going to put in front of them? Wofford, WIU? I probably should have swapped WIU and USD but there is nobody else behind those teams that would be in front of USD.

[Evolution Prime]

1. James Madison
2. North Dakota State
3. South Dakota State
4. Youngstown State
5. Jacksonville State
6. Sam Houston State
7. The Citadel
8. South Dakota
9. Western Illinois
10. Eastern Washington
11. Illinois State
12. Wofford
13. Central Arkansas
14. Tennessee-Martin
15. Albany
16. Villanova
17. Elon
18. Richmond
19. Montana State
20. Weber State
21. New Hampshire
22. North Carolina A&T
23. Western Carolina
24. Samford
25. Stony Brook

Significant Win: Western Illinois
Significant Loss: North Dakota

[dbackjon]

Hell of a lot better than the Coaches Poll
Western, Elon more appropriate. UNI not to be found other than a few voters.

- - - Updated - - -


Who are you going to put in front of them? Wofford, WIU? I probably should have swapped WIU and USD but there is nobody else behind those teams that would be in front of USD.


WIU vs USD gets resolved Saturday in Macomb

[PantherRob82]

Hello PantherRob82,

We have received your AGS Top 25 vote on 9/24/2017 14:17:34

Your vote is listed below.


1: James Madison Dukes
2: North Dakota State Bison
3: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
4: Sam Houston State Bearkats
5: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
6: Youngstown State Penguins
7: Wofford Terriers
8: South Dakota Coyotes
9: Western Illinois Leathernecks
10: Central Arkansas Bears
11: Eastern Washington Eagles
12: Illinois State Redbirds
13: The Citadel Bulldogs
14: Villanova Wildcats
15: Richmond Spiders
16: Stony Brook Seawolves
17: Weber State Wildcats
18: Maine Black Bears
19: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
20: North Carolina A&T Aggies
21: Elon Phoenix
22: Albany Great Danes
23: Montana State Bobcats
24: Southern Illinois Salukis
25: Western Carolina Catamounts

PantherRob82

The Most Significant Win: Albany Great Danes
The Most Significant Loss: North Dakota Fighting Hawks
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Missouri Valley Football Conference

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[RootinFerDukes]

Wow at Montana State and Western Carolina coming into this poll despite not even being on the radar in previous weeks. Even more surprising to see So Illinois enter the rankings off of a loss.

[Go Lehigh TU owl]

This week was tough...
1: James Madison Dukes
2: North Dakota State Bison
3: Youngstown State Penguins
4: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
5: Sam Houston State Bearkats
6: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
7: Wofford Terriers
8: Central Arkansas Bears
9: South Dakota Coyotes
10: The Citadel Bulldogs
11: Western Illinois Leathernecks
12: Illinois State Redbirds
13: North Carolina A&T Aggies
14: Albany Great Danes
15: New Hampshire Wildcats
16: Eastern Washington Eagles
17: Villanova Wildcats
18: Pennsylvania Quakers
19: William & Mary Tribe
20: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
21: Stony Brook Seawolves
22: Elon Phoenix
23: Dartmouth Big Green
24: Maine Black Bears
25: Holy Cross Crusaders

[KPSUL]

Hello KPSUL,

We have received your AGS Top 25 vote on 9/24/2017 7:18:16

Your vote is listed below.


1: James Madison Dukes
2: North Dakota State Bison
3: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
4: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
5: Youngstown State Penguins
6: Western Illinois Leathernecks
7: Illinois State Redbirds
8: Sam Houston State Bearkats
9: South Dakota Coyotes
10: Central Arkansas Bears
11: Wofford Terriers
12: North Carolina A&T Aggies
13: The Citadel Bulldogs
14: Eastern Washington Eagles
15: New Hampshire Wildcats
16: Weber State Wildcats
17: Stony Brook Seawolves
18: Elon Phoenix
19: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
20: Albany Great Danes
21: Pennsylvania Quakers
22: Richmond Spiders
23: Villanova Wildcats
24: Western Carolina Catamounts
25: Yale Bulldogs

KPSUL

The Most Significant Win: Elon Phoenix
The Most Significant Loss: North Dakota Fighting Hawks
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Colonial Athletic Association

[Thumper 76]

Wow at Montana State and Western Carolina coming into this poll despite not even being on the radar in previous weeks. Even more surprising to see So Illinois enter the rankings off of a loss.

MSU was on my radar since week two. SIU took a boarderline top 25 FBS team to the edge and has two wins besides that. There's definitely a chance they are a top team, and when you look at the teams at the bottom of the polls they certainly have as much of an argument as any other team.


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[ElonFirefighter]

I am a "little high" on Elon, but then again I had Elon at 20 last week so I am just a week early for them in the Polls. No offence to Albany I had them above Elon at first but then decided to reorder given Elon's wins over more ranked.

12: Villanova Wildcats
13: Richmond Spiders
14: Eastern Washington Eagles
15: Elon Phoenix
16: Central Arkansas Bears
17: New Hampshire Wildcats
18: Albany Great Danes
19: Weber State Wildcats
20: North Carolina A&T Aggies

[CappinHard]

7: South Dakota State Jackrabbits


https://static.wixstatic.com/media/44c56a_c61c815d591e42b6b58cf73b4da0134b~mv2.jpg
xlolx

[BisonFan02]

https://static.wixstatic.com/media/44c56a_c61c815d591e42b6b58cf73b4da0134b~mv2.jpg
xlolx

A bit.

[clenz]

Wow at Montana State and Western Carolina coming into this poll despite not even being on the radar in previous weeks. Even more surprising to see So Illinois enter the rankings off of a loss.
Good on people for not slot voting

[ElCid]

Wow at Montana State and Western Carolina coming into this poll despite not even being on the radar in previous weeks. Even more surprising to see So Illinois enter the rankings off of a loss.

I hate to say it, but I think after reading some of the comments it is just the MVFC mafia trying to stack as many conf teams into the poll as possible. Not a bad team and maybe worthy of a ranking, but not sure a loss to Memphis is worthy of a rise. I looked at them to flush out the 20-25, but wanted to wait until this coming week to add them, if they win.

[RootinFerDukes]

Good on people for not slot voting

I view it more as, "look at the whole season and not overreact from a single game". That's also why howard goes from not even top 100 to ranked by beating a crappy UNLV team. Then they ended up being the team we knew they were.

[Redbird 4th & short]

this is the best subjective poll going ... bar none, FCP and STATS are not even close.


AGS Poll Results - Week 4 - 09/25/2017



Rank
Team:
Total Points
First Place Votes
Previous Wk.


1
James Madison Dukes
1996
76
1


2
North Dakota State Bison
1916
4
2


3
South Dakota State Jackrabbits
1808

3


4
Sam Houston State Bearkats
1733

4


5
Jacksonville State Gamecocks
1627

5


6
Youngstown State Penguins
1540

6


7
South Dakota Coyotes
1390

10


8
Wofford Terriers
1355

8


9
Western Illinois Leathernecks
1345

14


10
Illinois State Redbirds
1258

12


11
The Citadel Bulldogs
1211

11


12
Central Arkansas Bears
1107

13


13
Eastern Washington Eagles
990

15


14
Villanova Wildcats
796

7


15
New Hampshire Wildcats
753

16


16
Albany Great Danes
740

24


17
Weber State Wildcats
719

20


18
North Carolina A&T Aggies
691

18


19
Richmond Spiders
558

9


20
Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
533

28


21
Elon Phoenix
509

32


22
Stony Brook Seawolves
367

26


23
Montana State Bobcats
147

NR


24
Western Carolina Catamounts
139

NR


25
Southern Illinois Salukis
104

31

















ORV:





26
Samford Bulldogs
93

17


27T
Maine Black Bears
67

27


27T
William & Mary Tribe
67

33


29
Tennessee State Tigers
62

21


30
Chattanooga Mocs
47

35


31
Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
41

38


32
Grambling State Tigers
39

39


33
Princeton Tigers
34

37


34
McNeese State Cowboys
33

NR


35
Holy Cross Crusaders
32

23


36
Pennsylvania Quakers
25

NR


38T
Nicholls State Colonels
19

22


38T
North Dakota Fighting Hawks
19

19


39
Yale Bulldogs
15

NR


40
Northern Iowa Panthers
13

34










Most Significant Win:
Elon Phoenix





Most Significant Loss:
Richmond Spiders


























Fell Out Of Poll:






Colgate Raiders






Idaho State Bengals






Montana Grizzlies






Southern Utah Thunderbirds

[reeder]

I am a "little high" on Elon, but then again I had Elon at 20 last week so I am just a week early for them in the Polls. No offence to Albany I had them above Elon at first but then decided to reorder given Elon's wins over more ranked.

12: Villanova Wildcats
13: Richmond Spiders
14: Eastern Washington Eagles
15: Elon Phoenix
16: Central Arkansas Bears
17: New Hampshire Wildcats
18: Albany Great Danes
19: Weber State Wildcats
20: North Carolina A&T Aggies

Albany / Elon ranking doesn't matter for now. Big game this weekend.

[BisonTru]

Hello BisonTru,

We have received your AGS Top 25 vote on 9/24/2017 14:55:23

Your vote is listed below.


1: James Madison Dukes
2: North Dakota State Bison
3: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
4: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
5: Sam Houston State Bearkats
6: Western Illinois Leathernecks
7: Youngstown State Penguins
8: Eastern Washington Eagles
9: South Dakota Coyotes
10: Central Arkansas Bears
11: Wofford Terriers
12: Illinois State Redbirds
13: Albany Great Danes
14: Weber State Wildcats
15: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
16: Montana State Bobcats
17: The Citadel Bulldogs
18: Villanova Wildcats
19: New Hampshire Wildcats
20: Stony Brook Seawolves
21: Maine Black Bears
22: Elon Phoenix
23: Southern Illinois Salukis
24: North Carolina A&T Aggies
25: Princeton Tigers

BisonTru

The Most Significant Win: Montana State Bobcats
The Most Significant Loss: North Dakota Fighting Hawks
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Missouri Valley Football Conference

[Professor Chaos]

It's also interesting that there are 10 CAA teams ranked (if you go into the ORV section) before the first Patriot League, Ivy League, NEC, Pioneer, Big South, or SWAC team.

[KPSUL]

I am a "little high" on Elon, but then again I had Elon at 20 last week so I am just a week early for them in the Polls. No offence to Albany I had them above Elon at first but then decided to reorder given Elon's wins over more ranked.

12: Villanova Wildcats
13: Richmond Spiders
14: Eastern Washington Eagles
15: Elon Phoenix
16: Central Arkansas Bears
17: New Hampshire Wildcats
18: Albany Great Danes
19: Weber State Wildcats
20: North Carolina A&T Aggies

Elon should be higher than Richmond, and I'd accomplish that by leaving Elon about where you have them and moving Richmond to 20 something, The Elon 2017 body of work is better than Richmond's, and you beat them @ Richmond. As far as the placement of Elon vs UNH - totally subjective and I completely understand your opinion; you could also argue Elon's 2017 body of work is better than UNH's, particularly if you put an asterisk after the FBS win. Albany's win over Villanova should place them ahead of Nova. IMO, and I realize it is just my opinion, Villanova's offense is highly suspect. They put up big points against Lafayette (need I say more?) and Lehigh who has given up more points to every other opponent they've faced after Nova. I had them in the 20ish range along with Richmond.

Of course it looks like during 2017 the CAA pecking order, except perhaps JMU, is likely to change significantly every week, so we need to stay open-minded and flexible.

[PantherRob82]

Wow at Montana State and Western Carolina coming into this poll despite not even being on the radar in previous weeks. Even more surprising to see So Illinois enter the rankings off of a loss.
No one else wants to be ranked.

[Redbird 4th & short]

I view it more as, "look at the whole season and not overreact from a single game". That's also why howard goes from not even top 100 to ranked by beating a crappy UNLV team. Then they ended up being the team we knew they were.
agree on not over-reacting to one game. but SIU played 3-0 Memphis tough ... SIU was up at half and got within 6 with 5 mins in game. They were even in 1st downs (23 to 24) .. not too far behind in rush yards, and about even in pass yards. Memphis is ranked around 60 and beat UCLA as well. It was a "quality loss" on the road against a decent FBS team .. for SIU that suggests they are a top 25 level team. So though it is just 1 game .. it is an impressive game that should carry some extra weight.

[JSUSoutherner]

Bleh.

1: James Madison Dukes
2: North Dakota State Bison
3: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
4: Youngstown State Penguins
5: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
6: Sam Houston State Bearkats
7: South Dakota Coyotes
8: Illinois State Redbirds
9: Western Illinois Leathernecks
10: Wofford Terriers
11: The Citadel Bulldogs
12: Central Arkansas Bears
13: New Hampshire Wildcats
14: Eastern Washington Eagles
15: Albany Great Danes
16: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
17: Villanova Wildcats
18: Stony Brook Seawolves
19: Weber State Wildcats
20: Elon Phoenix
21: Richmond Spiders
22: North Carolina A&T Aggies
23: Western Carolina Catamounts
24: Tennessee State Tigers
25: Chattanooga Mocs

JSUSoutherner

The Most Significant Win: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
The Most Significant Loss: Villanova Wildcats
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Ohio Valley Conference

[ElCid]

Bleh.

1: James Madison Dukes
2: North Dakota State Bison
3: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
4: Youngstown State Penguins
5: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
6: Sam Houston State Bearkats
7: South Dakota Coyotes
8: Illinois State Redbirds
9: Western Illinois Leathernecks
10: Wofford Terriers
11: The Citadel Bulldogs
12: Central Arkansas Bears
13: New Hampshire Wildcats
14: Eastern Washington Eagles
15: Albany Great Danes
16: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
17: Villanova Wildcats
18: Stony Brook Seawolves
19: Weber State Wildcats
20: Elon Phoenix
21: Richmond Spiders
22: North Carolina A&T Aggies
23: Western Carolina Catamounts
24: Tennessee State Tigers
25: Chattanooga Mocs

JSUSoutherner

The Most Significant Win: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
The Most Significant Loss: Villanova Wildcats
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Ohio Valley Conference





Padding the ole SOS? Just kidding. They are still a seriously good team. Some transition pain that may be ending soon. Hard to put a 1-3 team in though, even if they are good. I mean, they aren't Northern Iowa.xlolx

[RootinFerDukes]

It's also interesting that there are 10 CAA teams ranked (if you go into the ORV section) before the first Patriot League, Ivy League, NEC, Pioneer, Big South, or SWAC team.

I don't know what the numbers are off the top of my head but I bet you can look at our league's OOC records compared to those others and that will tell you why. It's likely justified this year. It's the MVFC, the CAA and everyone else.

[JSUSoutherner]

Padding the ole SOS? Just kidding. They are still a seriously good team. Some transition pain that may be ending soon. Hard to put a 1-3 team in though, even if they are good. I mean, they aren't Northern Iowa.xlolx
Their only losses are to top 20 teams and LSU without a starting QB. Not mention that everything from 20 down is a dumpster fire to rank anyway. I even considered Austin Peay for my last slot. It's rough.

[KPSUL]

I view it more as, "look at the whole season and not overreact from a single game". That's also why howard goes from not even top 100 to ranked by beating a crappy UNLV team. Then they ended up being the team we knew they were.

And having Cam Newton's little brother for their QB accelerated the hype.

[Daytripper]

1: James Madison Dukes
2: North Dakota State Bison
3: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
4: Sam Houston State Bearkats
5: Youngstown State Penguins
6: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
7: South Dakota Coyotes
8: Central Arkansas Bears
9: Wofford Terriers
10: North Carolina A&T Aggies
11: Western Illinois Leathernecks
12: Illinois State Redbirds
13: New Hampshire Wildcats
14: Weber State Wildcats
15: Villanova Wildcats
16: Eastern Washington Eagles
17: Albany Great Danes
18: Elon Phoenix
19: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
20: Western Carolina Catamounts
21: Maine Black Bears
22: Stony Brook Seawolves
23: McNeese State Cowboys
24: Grambling State Tigers
25: Richmond Spiders

Daytripper

The Most Significant Win: Albany Great Danes
The Most Significant Loss: Nicholls State Colonels

[RootinFerDukes]

agree on not over-reacting to one game. but SIU played 3-0 Memphis tough ... SIU was up at half and got within 6 with 5 mins in game. They were even in 1st downs (23 to 24) .. not too far behind in rush yards, and about even in pass yards. Memphis is ranked around 60 and beat UCLA as well. It was a "quality loss" on the road against a decent FBS team .. for SIU that suggests they are a top 25 level team. So though it is just 1 game .. it is an impressive game that should carry some extra weight.

I am being a bit of a hypocrite honestly. I did rank Maine because of their performance. It wasn't that I thought they should get in for their "moral victory", but it's just that there weren't many other teams that I honestly thought deserved to be ranked by this point in the season. They kind of fell in due to a lack of apparently better teams.

[Reign of Terrier]

I think the poll of this week is a legitimate baseline. I can understand the rankings, even if I disagree with them. My only objection is that Chattanooga doesn't deserve to be in the top 40 because of a win against a very bad VMI team that turned the ball over 3 times + against them. Since they aren't in the top 25, it's a marginal point.

[Smitty]

No one else wants to be ranked.

Yeah after 20, it became really fuzzy...

[citdog]

1: James Madison Dukes
2: North Dakota State Bison
3: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
4: Sam Houston State Bearkats
5: Youngstown State Penguins
6: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
7: South Dakota Coyotes
8: Central Arkansas Bears
9: Wofford Terriers
10: North Carolina A&T Aggies
11: Western Illinois Leathernecks
12: Illinois State Redbirds
13: New Hampshire Wildcats
14: Weber State Wildcats
15: Villanova Wildcats
16: Eastern Washington Eagles
17: Albany Great Danes
18: Elon Phoenix
19: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
20: Western Carolina Catamounts
21: Maine Black Bears
22: Stony Brook Seawolves
23: McNeese State Cowboys
24: Grambling State Tigers
25: Richmond Spiders

Daytripper

The Most Significant Win: Albany Great Danes
The Most Significant Loss: Nicholls State Colonels

Not very high on The Citadel I see....

[Reign of Terrier]

My hypothesis is that, in every division, the 5 are obvious, 6-20ish are a toss up for half of the year and 21-25 are conference homers. If you treat polls as a baseline and not a scripture, it's helpful.

[ElCid]

Yeah after 20, it became really fuzzy...

But not fuzzy enough t keep you all out. I got you in my poll in the 20-25 range. Win this week and you will move in the teens.

[ElCid]

Not very high on The Citadel I see....

Yeah I saw that too......but he has McNeese in?xrotatehx

[ElonFirefighter]

Elon should be higher than Richmond, and I'd accomplish that by leaving Elon about where you have them and moving Richmond to 20 something, The Elon 2017 body of work is better than Richmond's, and you beat them @ Richmond. As far as the placement of Elon vs UNH - totally subjective and I completely understand your opinion; you could also argue Elon's 2017 body of work is better than UNH's, particularly if you put an asterisk after the FBS win. Albany's win over Villanova should place them ahead of Nova. IMO, and I realize it is just my opinion, Villanova's offense is highly suspect. They put up big points against Lafayette (need I say more?) and Lehigh who has given up more points to every other opponent they've faced after Nova. I had them in the 20ish range along with Richmond.

Of course it looks like during 2017 the CAA pecking order, except perhaps JMU, is likely to change significantly every week, so we need to stay open-minded and flexible.

Being an Elon fan its hard to be completely objective. Being its the one game I watch every week, and we are young and make lots of mistakes I tend to bring that in a little , when I cannot fairly do that for all teams. Probably could have dropped Richmond more but a loss to a ranked/receiving votes team shouldn't hurt them that much. Just as a loss this week shouldn't hurt Albany/Elon Looser should stay about where they are now and winner climb. Unless its a complete bomb of a game.

[UNIFanSince1983]

agree on not over-reacting to one game. but SIU played 3-0 Memphis tough ... SIU was up at half and got within 6 with 5 mins in game. They were even in 1st downs (23 to 24) .. not too far behind in rush yards, and about even in pass yards. Memphis is ranked around 60 and beat UCLA as well. It was a "quality loss" on the road against a decent FBS team .. for SIU that suggests they are a top 25 level team. So though it is just 1 game .. it is an impressive game that should carry some extra weight.

But UCLA just got creamed by Stanford. Memphis was in a classic trap situation. Coming off an emotional big win against a name team like UCLA with an FCS team at home. Sometimes teams play FBS close, but that doesn't mean they are a good team. SIU hasn't proven anything yet. They have beaten one of the worst D1 teams in MVSU. Have beaten a terrible OVC team in SEMO, and then a loss to an FBS. There is nothing there yet.

They could turn out to be a good team, but we have nothing to prove it yet.

[UNIFanSince1983]

WIU absolutely deserves to be ahead of USD at this point. Not to any fault of USD, but their opponents have been bad so far. Bowling Green is probably the worst non-Sun Belt team (and worse than some SBC teams) in FBS. UND to this point has been bad. And Drake is dreadful.

Now USD might end up being the better team, but you cannot say that to this point WIU has not proven more than USD. Like I mean we find out on Saturday, but this weeks rankings should reflect what teams have done to this point.

[underdawg]

Yeh, I know--Your Panthers got Jobbed in this crummy Poll--but look at it this way: you get to try to get that first top 25 win this Saturday!

[UNIFanSince1983]

Yeh, I know--Your Panthers got Jobbed in this crummy Poll--but look at it this way: you get to try to get that first top 25 win this Saturday!

Ah yes the ole "I speak bad about your team so I must be pissed about my own" because you have no defense for what I actually said.

I have said since the beginning of the season UNI shouldn't be ranked. I am perplexed we are #20 in the coaches poll. That doesn't change how I feel about SIU, and that they haven't done anything to be ranked at this point

[dewey]

Here is my poll. Blast away.

Hello dewey,

We have received your AGS Top 25 vote on 9/25/2017 7:09:20

Your vote is listed below.


1: James Madison Dukes
2: North Dakota State Bison
3: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
4: Sam Houston State Bearkats
5: South Dakota Coyotes
6: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
7: Wofford Terriers
8: Youngstown State Penguins
9: Illinois State Redbirds
10: Western Illinois Leathernecks
11: Central Arkansas Bears
12: The Citadel Bulldogs
13: Richmond Spiders
14: Eastern Washington Eagles
15: Villanova Wildcats
16: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
17: Weber State Wildcats
18: Montana State Bobcats
19: Albany Great Danes
20: New Hampshire Wildcats
21: North Carolina A&T Aggies
22: Stony Brook Seawolves
23: Elon Phoenix
24: Western Carolina Catamounts
25: Samford Bulldogs

dewey

The Most Significant Win: Elon Phoenix
The Most Significant Loss: North Dakota Fighting Hawks
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Missouri Valley Football Conference

Dewey

[DirtyDukes]

1: James Madison Dukes
2: North Dakota State Bison
3: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
4: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
5: Youngstown State Penguins
6: Illinois State Redbirds
7: Sam Houston State Bearkats
8: South Dakota Coyotes
9: The Citadel Bulldogs
10: Central Arkansas Bears
11: Western Illinois Leathernecks
12: Eastern Washington Eagles
13: New Hampshire Wildcats
14: Albany Great Danes
15: Elon Phoenix
16: Richmond Spiders
17: North Carolina A&T Aggies
18: Weber State Wildcats
19: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
20: Stony Brook Seawolves
21: Maine Black Bears
22: Western Carolina Catamounts
23: Samford Bulldogs
24: Montana State Bobcats
25: Chattanooga Mocs


25 is probably the weakest. But jeez louise no one wants to be ranked this year.

[Professor Chaos]

WIU absolutely deserves to be ahead of USD at this point. Not to any fault of USD, but their opponents have been bad so far. Bowling Green is probably the worst non-Sun Belt team (and worse than some SBC teams) in FBS. UND to this point has been bad. And Drake is dreadful.

Now USD might end up being the better team, but you cannot say that to this point WIU has not proven more than USD. Like I mean we find out on Saturday, but this weeks rankings should reflect what teams have done to this point.
Idk... I think Charlotte is the worst FBS team out there right now. When you lose at home to Georgia St 28-0 it's pretty tough to top that when it comes to futility. It's the main reason I'm lower on NC A&T than most others seem to be.

[UNIFanSince1983]

Idk... I think Charlotte is the worst FBS team out there right now. When you lose at home to Georgia St 28-0 it's pretty tough to top that when it comes to futility. It's the main reason I'm lower on NC A&T than most others seem to be.

I guess I forgot that CUSA was still a thing. There are some bad teams in there too.

[Professor Chaos]

1: James Madison Dukes
2: North Dakota State Bison
3: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
4: Sam Houston State Bearkats
5: South Dakota Coyotes
6: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
7: Wofford Terriers
8: Youngstown State Penguins
9: Illinois State Redbirds
10: Western Illinois Leathernecks
11: Central Arkansas Bears
12: The Citadel Bulldogs
13: Richmond Spiders
14: Eastern Washington Eagles
15: Villanova Wildcats
16: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
17: Weber State Wildcats
18: Montana State Bobcats
19: Albany Great Danes
20: New Hampshire Wildcats
21: North Carolina A&T Aggies
22: Stony Brook Seawolves
23: Elon Phoenix
24: Western Carolina Catamounts
25: Samford Bulldogs

That's very generous.

[thebootfitter]

But UCLA just got creamed by Stanford. Memphis was in a classic trap situation. Coming off an emotional big win against a name team like UCLA with an FCS team at home. Sometimes teams play FBS close, but that doesn't mean they are a good team. SIU hasn't proven anything yet. They have beaten one of the worst D1 teams in MVSU. Have beaten a terrible OVC team in SEMO, and then a loss to an FBS. There is nothing there yet.

They could turn out to be a good team, but we have nothing to prove it yet.
Nothing? I don't think you're being fair... even with your apologetic points about Memphis. Even if the points are true, they are speculative. And the fact remains that SIU played them tough. That's more than nothing.

[kdinva]

1: James Madison Dukes
2: North Dakota State Bison
3: Sam Houston State Bearkats
4: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
5: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
6: Wofford Terriers
7: The Citadel Bulldogs
8: Illinois State Redbirds
9: Youngstown State Penguins
10: Western Illinois Leathernecks
11: South Dakota Coyotes
12: New Hampshire Wildcats
13: Villanova Wildcats
14: Central Arkansas Bears
15: North Carolina A&T Aggies
16: Richmond Spiders
17: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
18: Albany Great Danes
19: Weber State Wildcats
20: McNeese State Cowboys
21: Elon Phoenix
22: Tennessee State Tigers
23: Eastern Washington Eagles
24: Grambling State Tigers
25: Western Carolina Catamounts



The Most Significant Win: Elon Phoenix
The Most Significant Loss: Samford Bulldogs

[clenz]

Ah yes the ole "I speak bad about your team so I must be pissed about my own" because you have no defense for what I actually said.

I have said since the beginning of the season UNI shouldn't be ranked. I am perplexed we are #20 in the coaches poll. That doesn't change how I feel about SIU, and that they haven't done anything to be ranked at this point
I had SIU at 19. More as a "their offense would crush the teams below them" type deal, but the reality is you aren't wrong about SIU.

Their wins?
MVSU - one of the 5 worst teams in the country. Would be bottom 5 in D2, NAIA, and I'm not sure they'd be good D3.
SEMO - who actually ranks right next to MVSU in the computer rankings.

Pugh has them at 116 and 117 in the FCS respectively

Massey Composite has SEMO at 99
Massey Composite has MVSU at 120

Sagarin has MVSU the 3rd worst FCS team
Sagarin has SEMO in the bottom 20


Look, I'm impressed with what they did against Memphis. I have them in the top 20. I'd put money on them to beat UNI. 5dimes has UNI -2 right now with the O/U at 59.5. I'd take SIU and the WAY over.

SIU finally has a team that isn't forcing them into hibernation early this year, so they are coming back in full force and directing it straight at UNI fans - like they usually do

[Thumper 76]

https://static.wixstatic.com/media/44c56a_c61c815d591e42b6b58cf73b4da0134b~mv2.jpg
xlolx


A bit.
Not even a little. SDSU needs to prove to me that they can put even a little pressure on the qb of a team with a pulse. When I vote in the poll I don't do the optimistic fan thing, sorry. Jacks haven't looked good enough to be a top 5 team IMO. They could be, maybe the Montana St game they let off the gas and let them back in it. But they haven't hit the explosive plays to Goedert and Wieneke like they did last year, which made them so dangerous. Also they have had zero run game this year. Like, none, outside of TC when it comes to the starters. Doesn't bode well for the season. Yeah the passing attack is good enough to be top ten this year, but as a team they aren't top 5 yet.

But UCLA just got creamed by Stanford. Memphis was in a classic trap situation. Coming off an emotional big win against a name team like UCLA with an FCS team at home. Sometimes teams play FBS close, but that doesn't mean they are a good team. SIU hasn't proven anything yet. They have beaten one of the worst D1 teams in MVSU. Have beaten a terrible OVC team in SEMO, and then a loss to an FBS. There is nothing there yet.

They could turn out to be a good team, but we have nothing to prove it yet.
They haven't done anything to disprove that they are a good team. If wins over two bad teams and a win over a bad FBS is good enough for top 10, I'd say two wins over bad teams and taking a decent one to the wire is worthy of top 25 at least.

That's very generous.

Holy smokes, I'd say so


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[POD Knows]

Hell of a lot better than the Coaches Poll
Western, Elon more appropriate. UNI not to be found other than a few voters.

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WIU vs USD gets resolved Saturday in MacombYep, I might stay home from the MSU/NDSU game and watch some decent football. Just kidding, sort of.

[POD Knows]

Wow at Montana State and Western Carolina coming into this poll despite not even being on the radar in previous weeks. Even more surprising to see So Illinois enter the rankings off of a loss.Did you watch the SIU/Memphis game, SIU got ****ing homered by the officiating, they looked pretty good actually.

[Daytripper]

Not very high on The Citadel I see....

Oversight. Thanks for the catch.. Not sure what happened because they have been in my poll from the start.

[mvemjsunpx]

(previous week in parentheses)


1. James Madison (1)
2. North Dakota St. (2)
3. Western Illinois (7)
4. South Dakota St. (4)
5. Sam Houston St. (6)
6. South Dakota (5)
7. Central Arkansas (8)
8. Youngstown St. (10)
9. Jacksonville St. (12)
10. Stony Brook (11)
11. Weber St. (18)
12. Eastern Washington (20)
13. The Citadel (16)
14. Tennessee-Martin (25)
15. Wofford (17)
16. Elon (NR)
17. Richmond (9)
18. Albany (NR)
19. North Carolina A&T (23)
20. Illinois St. (NR)
21. Villanova (3)
22. Tennessee-Chattanooga (NR)
23. Nicholls St. (13)
24. McNeese St. (24)
25. Montana St. (NR)

W - Elon
L - Nicholls St.



Dropped - North Dakota (14), Samford (15), Montana (19), Holy Cross (21), New Hampshire (22)

[POD Knows]

(previous week in parentheses)


1. James Madison (1)
2. North Dakota St. (2)
3. Western Illinois (7)
4. South Dakota St. (4)
5. Sam Houston St. (6)
6. South Dakota (5)
7. Central Arkansas (8)
8. Youngstown St. (10)
9. Jacksonville St. (12)
10. Stony Brook (11)
11. Weber St. (18)
12. Eastern Washington (20)
13. The Citadel (16)
14. Tennessee-Martin (25)
15. Wofford (17)
16. Elon (NR)
17. Richmond (9)
18. Albany (NR)
19. North Carolina A&T (23)
20. Illinois St. (NR)
21. Villanova (3)
22. Tennessee-Chattanooga (NR)
23. Nicholls St. (13)
24. McNeese St. (24)
25. Montana St. (NR)

W - Elon
L - Nicholls St.



Dropped - North Dakota (14), Samford (15), Montana (19), Holy Cross (21), New Hampshire (22)Stony Brook at #10, yea, um, no.

[CappinHard]

Jacks haven't looked good enough to be a top 5 team IMO. They could be, maybe the Montana St game they let off the gas and let them back in it. But they haven't hit the explosive plays to Goedert and Wieneke like they did last year, which made them so dangerous. Also they have had zero run game this year. Like, none, outside of TC when it comes to the starters. Doesn't bode well for the season. Yeah the passing attack is good enough to be top ten this year, but as a team they aren't top 5 yet.

I think that Montana St. has shown and will continue to show that they are a very good team and coming away with a win at their place was more impressive than it initially seemed. As far as explosive plays to Goedert and Wieneke, they will come, they have only played 1 full game this year and a couple partial games. As far as the run game, we have averaged 6.16 yards per rush. Even without TC's rushing, our main 3 backs average 5. We just don't run the ball that often anymore. Through 3 games we have 95 carries compared to 164 for NDSU and 169 for SDSU. We'll find out just how good they are starting this Saturday.

[UNIFanSince1983]

Honest question:

Say UNI goes into Carbondump and wins this weekend (they won't but lets go a little hypothetical here) does that mean UNI should be ranked? Would that prove UNI is good or would it prove SIU was a pretender like I assume they are?

[ursus arctos horribilis]

Oversight. Thanks for the catch.. Not sure what happened because they have been in my poll from the start.

You should always take a look at your ballot when you get it back...and they let me know if you messed up. I should have caught that and asked you but I had a lot of people with issues again this week so it got missed.

[BisonBacker]

I hate to say it, but I think after reading some of the comments it is just the MVFC mafia trying to stack as many conf teams into the poll as possible. Not a bad team and maybe worthy of a ranking, but not sure a loss to Memphis is worthy of a rise. I looked at them to flush out the 20-25, but wanted to wait until this coming week to add them, if they win.

I've gotta thank you Cid you inspired my avatar title. Now remember...Don't ever take sides against the family :D


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYnRBX2Trtk

[mvemjsunpx]

Stony Brook at #10, yea, um, no.

3-0 against FCS, gave a ranked FBS a scare… what's not to like?

[Thumper 76]

I think that Montana St. has shown and will continue to show that they are a very good team and coming away with a win at their place was more impressive than it initially seemed. As far as explosive plays to Goedert and Wieneke, they will come, they have only played 1 full game this year and a couple partial games. As far as the run game, we have averaged 6.16 yards per rush. Even without TC's rushing, our main 3 backs average 5. We just don't run the ball that often anymore. Through 3 games we have 95 carries compared to 164 for NDSU and 169 for SDSU. We'll find out just how good they are starting this Saturday.

Well, if they come out and beat YSU and show we have a defense worth a spit then my ranking will show it. I'm not going to rank off of what I think will happen. I rank off of what I've seen.


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[ursus arctos horribilis]

Honest question:

Say UNI goes into Carbondump and wins this weekend (they won't but lets go a little hypothetical here) does that mean UNI should be ranked? Would that prove UNI is good or would it prove SIU was a pretender like I assume they are?

Tough to say. UNI usually starts very slow and SIU usually looks really good early and then they switch places for the 2nd 1/2 of the season.

[CappinHard]

Well, if they come out and beat YSU and show we have a defense worth a spit then my ranking will show it. I'm not going to rank off of what I think will happen. I rank off of what I've seen.


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I can understand and respect that.

[McCowboys]

(previous week in parentheses)


1. James Madison (1)
2. North Dakota St. (2)
3. Western Illinois (7)
4. South Dakota St. (4)
5. Sam Houston St. (6)
6. South Dakota (5)
7. Central Arkansas (8)
8. Youngstown St. (10)
9. Jacksonville St. (12)
10. Stony Brook (11)
11. Weber St. (18)
12. Eastern Washington (20)
13. The Citadel (16)
14. Tennessee-Martin (25)
15. Wofford (17)
16. Elon (NR)
17. Richmond (9)
18. Albany (NR)
19. North Carolina A&T (23)
20. Illinois St. (NR)
21. Villanova (3)
22. Tennessee-Chattanooga (NR)
23. Nicholls St. (13)
24. McNeese St. (24)
25. Montana St. (NR)

W - Elon
L - Nicholls St.



Dropped - North Dakota (14), Samford (15), Montana (19), Holy Cross (21), New Hampshire (22)

Who is your team, mvemjsunpx?

[BisonFan02]

Well, if they come out and beat YSU and show we have a defense worth a spit then my ranking will show it. I'm not going to rank off of what I think will happen. I rank off of what I've seen.


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Cushioning the disappointment later? It takes some getting used to having high expectaions. Feels icky. :D xlolx

[Thumper 76]

Cushioning the disappointment later? It takes some getting used to having high expectaions. Feels icky. :D xlolx

Meh, call it what you will xlolx


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[POD Knows]

3-0 against FCS, gave a ranked FBS a scare… what's not to like?Yea, Rhody, Sacred Heart and Towson, I will give them credit for the moral victory against USF, I have them in my poll, just not that high.

[JSUSoutherner]

(previous week in parentheses)


1. James Madison (1)
2. North Dakota St. (2)
3. Western Illinois (7)
4. South Dakota St. (4)
5. Sam Houston St. (6)
6. South Dakota (5)
7. Central Arkansas (8)
8. Youngstown St. (10)
9. Jacksonville St. (12)
10. Stony Brook (11)
11. Weber St. (18)
12. Eastern Washington (20)
13. The Citadel (16)
14. Tennessee-Martin (25)
15. Wofford (17)
16. Elon (NR)
17. Richmond (9)
18. Albany (NR)
19. North Carolina A&T (23)
20. Illinois St. (NR)
21. Villanova (3)
22. Tennessee-Chattanooga (NR)
23. Nicholls St. (13)
24. McNeese St. (24)
25. Montana St. (NR)

W - Elon
L - Nicholls St.



Dropped - North Dakota (14), Samford (15), Montana (19), Holy Cross (21), New Hampshire (22)

https://media.giphy.com/media/Fml0fgAxVx1eM/giphy.gif

[BucBisonAtLarge]

1: James Madison Dukes
2: North Dakota State Bison
3: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
4: Sam Houston State Bearkats
5: Youngstown State Penguins
6: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
7: Western Illinois Leathernecks
8: Eastern Washington Eagles
9: Central Arkansas Bears
10: Elon Phoenix
11: The Citadel Bulldogs
12: Illinois State Redbirds
13: Villanova Wildcats
14: North Carolina A&T Aggies
15: Albany Great Danes
16: Wofford Terriers
17: South Dakota Coyotes
18: New Hampshire Wildcats
19: Richmond Spiders
20: Weber State Wildcats
21: Nicholls State Colonels
22: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
23: Yale Bulldogs
24: Holy Cross Crusaders
25: Samford Bulldogs


The Most Significant Win: Sam Houston State Bearkats
The Most Significant Loss: Richmond Spiders

This is what it is. After the top 7, I can listen to any reasonable argument-- and will.

[BisonTru]

Honest question:

Say UNI goes into Carbondump and wins this weekend (they won't but lets go a little hypothetical here) does that mean UNI should be ranked? Would that prove UNI is good or would it prove SIU was a pretender like I assume they are?

For me:
Big win for UNI, probably gets them ranked for the first time this season
Small win for UNI, probably doesn't get them in, probably bumps SIU out
Small win for SIU, confirms a late poll spot
Big win for SIU, and they'll move up some.

[RabidRabbit]

o RabidRabbit,

We have received your AGS Top 25 vote on 9/24/2017 7:57:35

Your vote is listed below.


1: James Madison Dukes
2: North Dakota State Bison
3. South Dakota State Jackrabbits
4: Sam Houston State Bearkats
5: Youngstown State Penguins
6: Western Illinois Leathernecks
7: South Dakota Coyotes
8: Illinois State Redbirds
9: Wofford Terriers
10: The Citadel Bulldogs
11: Central Arkansas Bears
12: New Hampshire Wildcats
13: Weber State Wildcats
14: Albany Great Danes
15: Villanova Wildcats
16: North Carolina A&T Aggies
17: Stony Brook Seawolves
18: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
19: Elon Phoenix
20: Eastern Washington Eagles
21: Montana State Bobcats
22: Southern Illinois Salukis
23: Princeton Tigers
24: Richmond Spiders
25: McNeese State Cowboys

RabidRabbit

The Most Significant Win: Western Illinois Leathernecks
The Most Significant Loss: Richmond Spiders
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Missouri Valley Football Conference




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[JSUSoutherner]

o RabidRabbit,

We have received your AGS Top 25 vote on 9/24/2017 7:57:35

Your vote is listed below.


1: James Madison Dukes
2: North Dakota State Bison
3. South Dakota State Jackrabbits
4: Sam Houston State Bearkats
5: Youngstown State Penguins
6: Western Illinois Leathernecks
7: South Dakota Coyotes
8: Illinois State Redbirds
9: Wofford Terriers
10: The Citadel Bulldogs
11: Central Arkansas Bears
12: New Hampshire Wildcats
13: Weber State Wildcats
14: Albany Great Danes
15: Villanova Wildcats
16: North Carolina A&T Aggies
17: Stony Brook Seawolves
18: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
19: Elon Phoenix
20: Eastern Washington Eagles
21: Montana State Bobcats
22: Southern Illinois Salukis
23: Princeton Tigers
24: Richmond Spiders
25: McNeese State Cowboys

RabidRabbit

The Most Significant Win: Western Illinois Leathernecks
The Most Significant Loss: Richmond Spiders
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Missouri Valley Football Conference




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Ummm....

[BisonBacker]

Ummm....

Yeah I think something is missing from that poll xnodx

[RabidRabbit]

Ummm....

Dang nab it, missed those cocky birds out of the OVC🤕
Next week, likely about 8-10, depending on the spreads among the three top 10 match ups this weekend.


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[TheKingpin28]

1: James Madison Dukes
2: North Dakota State Bison
3: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
4: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
5: Sam Houston State Bearkats
6: Youngstown State Penguins
7: South Dakota Coyotes
8: Western Illinois Leathernecks
9: Illinois State Redbirds
10: The Citadel Bulldogs
11: Weber State Wildcats
12: Albany Great Danes
13: Wofford Terriers
14: Central Arkansas Bears
15: Villanova Wildcats
16: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
17: Elon Phoenix
18: Richmond Spiders
19: Eastern Washington Eagles
20: New Hampshire Wildcats
21: North Carolina A&T Aggies
22: Stony Brook Seawolves
23: Maine Black Bears
24: Western Carolina Catamounts
25: Montana State Bobcats

TheKingpin28

The Most Significant Win: Sam Houston State Bearkats
The Most Significant Loss: Gardner-Webb Runnin' Bulldogs
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Missouri Valley Football Conference

Come at me bro

[ST_Lawson]

(previous week in parentheses)...
3. Western Illinois (7)
...

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[Katfan]

Bleh.

1: James Madison Dukes
2: North Dakota State Bison
3: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
4: Youngstown State Penguins
5: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
6: Sam Houston State Bearkats
7: South Dakota Coyotes
8: Illinois State Redbirds
9: Western Illinois Leathernecks
10: Wofford Terriers
11: The Citadel Bulldogs
12: Central Arkansas Bears
13: New Hampshire Wildcats
14: Eastern Washington Eagles
15: Albany Great Danes
16: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
17: Villanova Wildcats
18: Stony Brook Seawolves
19: Weber State Wildcats
20: Elon Phoenix
21: Richmond Spiders
22: North Carolina A&T Aggies
23: Western Carolina Catamounts
24: Tennessee State Tigers
25: Chattanooga Mocs

JSUSoutherner

The Most Significant Win: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
The Most Significant Loss: Villanova Wildcats
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Ohio Valley Conference



Looks good except for 5&6

[Daytripper]

You should always take a look at your ballot when you get it back...and they let me know if you messed up. I should have caught that and asked you but I had a lot of people with issues again this week so it got missed.

I know. Historically, I have been pretty good about double checking before sending. I'll pay better attention next time. And you shouldn't have to spend your time baby-sitting my poll.

[JSUSoutherner]

Looks good except for 5&6
Why? That's the best part. :D

[Katfan]

Why? That's the best part. :D
Needs to be the other way so you guys can come to Huntsville this year.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

I know. Historically, I have been pretty good about double checking before sending. I'll pay better attention next time. And you shouldn't have to spend your time baby-sitting my poll.

That is good but even better is opening it up once it is emailed back to you. It is much easier to look at it then and copy it over to a preadsheet and compare with the AGS Poll or the how they fared sheet and make sure you are not missing anybody.

[JSUSoutherner]

Needs to be the other way so you guys can come to Huntsville this year.

Negative.

[Coyote Fan]

USD is too high when you take a look @ Bowling Green and UND's performances since.

So exactly what more could the Coyotes have done to be impressive at this point.

at Drake W 77-7
at Bowling Green W 35-27
vs UND 45-7

Maybe the Coyotes could have defeated Bowling Green more soundly, maybe they should have kept their foot on the gas and defeated UND closer to 66-7. You can only play who is in front of you. The Coyotes have been about as impressive as they possibly could. That doesn't guarantee anything going forward but I don't know what else anyone would want.

[mvemjsunpx]

Who is your team, mvemjsunpx?

Montana. Isn't it visible under my name on the left?

[POD Knows]

Montana. Isn't it visible under my name on the left?No, I can't see anybodies teams anymore, what is the deal?

[mvemjsunpx]

Yea, Rhody, Sacred Heart and Towson, I will give them credit for the moral victory against USF, I have them in my poll, just not that high.

Unfortunately, there just aren't that many teams with both good performances and zero blemishes.

[mvemjsunpx]

No, I can't see anybodies teams anymore, what is the deal?

I can see them. I'm on a desktop, if that makes a difference. I'm also using the classic (light gray/blue) look.

[BisonTru]

So exactly what more could the Coyotes have done to be impressive at this point.

at Drake W 77-7
at Bowling Green W 35-27
vs UND 45-7

Maybe the Coyotes could have defeated Bowling Green more soundly, maybe they should have kept their foot on the gas and defeated UND closer to 66-7. You can only play who is in front of you. The Coyotes have been about as impressive as they possibly could. That doesn't guarantee anything going forward but I don't know what else anyone would want.

TBH, nothing really.

You guys have done everything you could of with what it is in front of you, but it is fair to question how good the UND/BG wins were considering how they aren't looking as good as once thought.

Really you guys have a conference slate full of tough ranked teams. Plenty of opportunities to add to your resume.

[cx500d]

The correct answers are here:

1: James Madison Dukes
2: Sam Houston State Bearkats
3: North Dakota State Bison
4: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
5: South Dakota Coyotes
6: Western Illinois Leathernecks
7: Youngstown State Penguins
8: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
9: The Citadel Bulldogs
10: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
11: Stony Brook Seawolves
12: Illinois State Redbirds
13: Elon Phoenix
14: North Carolina A&T Aggies
15: Central Arkansas Bears
16: Weber State Wildcats
17: Western Carolina Catamounts
18: Wofford Terriers
19: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
20: Albany Great Danes
21: Southern Illinois Salukis
22: New Hampshire Wildcats
23: Richmond Spiders
24: Montana State Bobcats
25: Maine Black Bears

cx500d

The Most Significant Win: Western Illinois Leathernecks
The Most Significant Loss: Richmond Spiders
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Missouri Valley Football Conference

[BisonTru]

No, I can't see anybodies teams anymore, what is the deal?

I can see them.

They don't show up on Tapa but never have.

[yorkcountyUNHfan]

Hello PantherRob82,

We have received your AGS Top 25 vote on 9/24/2017 14:17:34

Your vote is listed below.


1: James Madison Dukes
2: North Dakota State Bison
3: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
4: Sam Houston State Bearkats
5: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
6: Youngstown State Penguins
7: Wofford Terriers
8: South Dakota Coyotes
9: Western Illinois Leathernecks
10: Central Arkansas Bears
11: Eastern Washington Eagles
12: Illinois State Redbirds
13: The Citadel Bulldogs
14: Villanova Wildcats
15: Richmond Spiders
16: Stony Brook Seawolves
17: Weber State Wildcats
18: Maine Black Bears
19: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
20: North Carolina A&T Aggies
21: Elon Phoenix
22: Albany Great Danes
23: Montana State Bobcats
24: Southern Illinois Salukis
25: Western Carolina Catamounts

PantherRob82

The Most Significant Win: Albany Great Danes
The Most Significant Loss: North Dakota Fighting Hawks
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Missouri Valley Football Conference

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did you forget us or do you think UNH is not a top 25 team?

[TheKingpin28]

The correct answers are here:

1: James Madison Dukes
2: Sam Houston State Bearkats
3: North Dakota State Bison
4: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
5: South Dakota Coyotes
6: Western Illinois Leathernecks
7: Youngstown State Penguins
8: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
9: The Citadel Bulldogs
10: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
11: Stony Brook Seawolves
12: Illinois State Redbirds
13: Elon Phoenix
14: North Carolina A&T Aggies
15: Central Arkansas Bears
16: Weber State Wildcats
17: Western Carolina Catamounts
18: Wofford Terriers
19: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
20: Albany Great Danes
21: Southern Illinois Salukis
22: New Hampshire Wildcats
23: Richmond Spiders
24: Montana State Bobcats
25: Maine Black Bears

cx500d

The Most Significant Win: Western Illinois Leathernecks
The Most Significant Loss: Richmond Spiders
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Missouri Valley Football Conference

Explain

[underdawg]

So exactly what more could the Coyotes have done to be impressive at this point.

at Drake W 77-7
at Bowling Green W 35-27
vs UND 45-7

Maybe the Coyotes could have defeated Bowling Green more soundly, maybe they should have kept their foot on the gas and defeated UND closer to 66-7. You can only play who is in front of you. The Coyotes have been about as impressive as they possibly could. That doesn't guarantee anything going forward but I don't know what else anyone would want.


I've seen the Yotes twice and they are a top 3-4 MVFC team IMO--I'm a Saluki fan

[centennial]

Honest question:

Say UNI goes into Carbondump and wins this weekend (they won't but lets go a little hypothetical here) does that mean UNI should be ranked? Would that prove UNI is good or would it prove SIU was a pretender like I assume they are?

I've seen both the teams play. SIU does look like a better team, but UNI loves crushing dreams after terrible OOC. So even though my brain thinks UNI gets trucked, wouldn't surprise me if now they look like a top 5 FCS team.

[cx500d]

Explain

Explain? Its the gospel according to cx500d.. Their records stand for themselves too date IMO. I'd ask the same thing for people that ranked Wofford high, or EWU, or Villanova. We are still early in the season and quite frankly its a crapshoot for some of these teams differentiating them from others.

[The Pud]

Yea, Rhody, Sacred Heart and Towson, I will give them credit for the moral victory against USF, I have them in my poll, just not that high.


I have them in my poll too.

[McCowboys]

Montana. Isn't it visible under my name on the left?

If it is, I cannot see it. But I do see all the planets, though. :)

[Schism55]

Montana. Isn't it visible under my name on the left?
The "My Team" field disappeared during the summer, wish it would come back.
Ursus- Can this be remedied?

[dbackjon]

No, I can't see anybodies teams anymore, what is the deal?


POD Knows Not

[skinny_uncle]

Thanks for your support. I hope we justify it on Saturday.

[PantherRob82]

did you forget us or do you think UNH is not a top 25 team?

I had them ranked before the Holy Cross beatdown. I almost put them back in this week. You know I love you guys xlovex

[Catbooster]

The "My Team" field disappeared during the summer, wish it would come back.
Ursus- Can this be remedied?
That's happened for me too. Is there a fix for it?

[Daytripper]

Explain? Its the gospel according to cx500d.. Their records stand for themselves too date IMO. I'd ask the same thing for people that ranked Wofford high, or EWU, or Villanova. We are still early in the season and quite frankly its a crapshoot for some of these teams differentiating them from others.

I agree. I have NC A&T at #10 because, well, that's where I think they belong.

[cx500d]

I agree. I have NC A&T at #10 because, well, that's where I think they belong.

No way, you are way out in left field on that pick. Obviously it’s Tennessee. Martin...not Chattanooga or state


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[citdog]

I agree. I have NC A&T at #10 because, well, that's where I think they belong.

Bro your poll is a comedy of errors. I didn't post anything except the fact that you left a certain team out before but DAMN...


GET BETTER

[1984]

James Madison Dukes as current Champs should remain as #1 until they give us a reason to move them down. Until that happens I am happy with NDSU at #2.

[Daytripper]

Bro your poll is a comedy of errors. I didn't post anything except the fact that you left a certain team out before but DAMN...


GET BETTER

I thanked you for pointing out my honest mistake. This post had nothing to do with you.

[Catbooster]

Glad to see Montana State entering the AGS poll. STATS and coaches poll have UND with more votes than the Bobcats in ORV.

[JSUSoutherner]

Explain
What has UTM done that shows they aren't worthy of a top 10 placement? You could argue they look better than JSU at the moment.

[Redbird 4th & short]

But UCLA just got creamed by Stanford. Memphis was in a classic trap situation. Coming off an emotional big win against a name team like UCLA with an FCS team at home. Sometimes teams play FBS close, but that doesn't mean they are a good team. SIU hasn't proven anything yet. They have beaten one of the worst D1 teams in MVSU. Have beaten a terrible OVC team in SEMO, and then a loss to an FBS. There is nothing there yet.

They could turn out to be a good team, but we have nothing to prove it yet.
Hard to entirely disagree - though UCLA also beat Texas A&M.

Part of what I like about SIU is the result of how many close games they lost a year ago they they went 4-7 .. 6 of those 7 losses were by 8 points or less, while playing against a top 10 SOS. Coming out of 2015 when they had a horrible defense and lost the best all around QB in league .. a true dual threat. Plus they got a new young HC. So I felt they had no business competing with good teams last year .. so got me thinking their new HC has got something going there. So they are my dark horse to surprise in MVFC the year.

[REALBird]

Stony Brook at #10, yea, um, no.

Gymnastics voting, throw out the high and low. Guess this would be the East German vote. LOL

[TheKingpin28]

What has UTM done that shows they aren't worthy of a top 10 placement? You could argue they look better than JSU at the moment.

I put them at 16 and thought about 15 with moving Villanova to 16. Otherwise, the 14 teams above them I would say have more a of a reason to be there.

[WileECoyote06]

I agree. I have NC A&T at #10 because, well, that's where I think they belong.

I can see this. How does one justify Wofford being in the top ten, even considering their playing style; but then keep the undefeated farmers with an FBS win; outside of the top-15 when they have a common opponent? A&T beat G-W senseless in Boiling Springs; and G-W kept it close with Wofford in Spartanburg.

[cx500d]

I can see this. How does one justify Wofford being in the top ten, even considering their playing style; but then keep the undefeated farmers with an FBS win; outside of the top-15 when they have a common opponent? A&T beat G-W senseless in Boiling Springs; and G-W kept it close with Wofford in Spartanburg.

Agreed, that’s why I had a&t 4 places higher than wofford.


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[WileECoyote06]

Agreed, that’s why I had a&t 4 places higher than wofford.


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This is the second time I've had to defend the farmers in the past two weeks. I don't like this!

xlolx

[The Pud]

Glad to see Montana State entering the AGS poll. STATS and coaches poll have UND with more votes than the Bobcats in ORV.


Montana State could be the dark horse this year in the Big Sky, and perhaps in the playoffs

[MTfan4life]

Montana State could be the dark horse this year in the Big Sky, and perhaps in the playoffs

That quarterback Chris Murray is the real deal in the dual threat category, and their defense is much improved, especially on the ground. They do have one of the toughest conference schedules in the Big Sky, though, having to travel to both EWU and NAU, along with a solid Northern Colorado team. The teams they match up the worst with, in my opinion, are the ones they have to travel to play. I'm not saying Weber is weaker than those three. I just think MSU matches up well with Weber. Here I go again, rambling about the potential success of Montana State. xembarrassedx
:pumpuke:

[milleniumkat]

I just think any poll that has YSU above USD is invalid. YSU has beaten no one. And they are climbing like a 747. USD has a better resume.

[milleniumkat]

Hello Thumper 76,

We have received your AGS Top 25 vote on 9/24/2017 13:22:42

Your vote is listed below.


1: James Madison Dukes
2: North Dakota State Bison
3: Sam Houston State Bearkats
4: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
5: Youngstown State Penguins
6: Western Illinois Leathernecks
7: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
8: Central Arkansas Bears
9: Illinois State Redbirds
10: South Dakota Coyotes
11: Wofford Terriers
12: Albany Great Danes
13: The Citadel Bulldogs
14: North Carolina A&T Aggies
15: Villanova Wildcats
16: Montana State Bobcats
17: Western Carolina Catamounts
18: New Hampshire Wildcats
19: Weber State Wildcats
20: Stony Brook Seawolves
21: Eastern Washington Eagles
22: Richmond Spiders
23: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
24: Elon Phoenix
25: Southern Illinois Salukis

Thumper 76

The Most Significant Win: Albany Great Danes
The Most Significant Loss: North Dakota Fighting Hawks
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Missouri Valley Football Conference




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Ok

I'm calling sandbag on this one. No doubt about it. lol.

[UNIFanSince1983]

I just think any poll that has YSU above USD is invalid. YSU has beaten no one. And they are climbing like a 747. USD has a better resume.

YSU played a close game against Pitt. And are undefeated against FCS competition. And then right or wrong they were in the National Championship last year so they get the benefit of that doubt.

USD is trending up currently, but they have never been to the playoffs. They have never won more than 3 conference games. They are fighting their history. They keep winning they will move up. If YSU is a fraud they will move down. One could argue USD has a better resume than SHSU too, but history does factor in.

[milleniumkat]

YSU played a close game against Pitt. And are undefeated against FCS competition. And then right or wrong they were in the National Championship last year so they get the benefit of that doubt.

USD is trending up currently, but they have never been to the playoffs. They have never won more than 3 conference games. They are fighting their history. They keep winning they will move up. If YSU is a fraud they will move down. One could argue USD has a better resume than SHSU too, but history does factor in.

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You talkin' 'bout this Crappy arse Pitt?? Please.

And the two teams they beat are terrible.
No excuse for rocketing them up like this.

Ok. I've heard "last year matters" from 95% of AGS pollsters. So y'all better stick to that in all scenarios moving forward for your own integrity's sake.

I absolutely agree that USD has a better resume than my kats. No arguments from me for placing them ahead of us at the moment. But YSU over USD is no bueno.

[Mayville Bison]

This next week is going to be really challenging. Determining how high NC A&T and Tenn-Martin should actually go when teams ahead of them have to lose will be the toughest part. Is there a ceiling for A&T? We are also getting to the point of the year where it's really hard to find 25 teams deserving of a vote - I think I had 30 or so fighting for 25, but a couple teams get upset in that 16-25 range again and it will be really hard to find 25.

1: James Madison Dukes
2: North Dakota State Bison
3: Sam Houston State Bearkats
4: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
5: South Dakota Coyotes
6: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
7: Illinois State Redbirds
8: Wofford Terriers
9: Youngstown State Penguins
10: Western Illinois Leathernecks
11: The Citadel Bulldogs
12: Central Arkansas Bears
13: Weber State Wildcats
14: North Carolina A&T Aggies
15: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
16: Eastern Washington Eagles
17: Villanova Wildcats
18: New Hampshire Wildcats
19: Elon Phoenix
20: Albany Great Danes
21: Stony Brook Seawolves
22: Montana State Bobcats
23: Richmond Spiders
24: Tennessee State Tigers
25: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens

[JSUSoutherner]

This next week is going to be really challenging. Determining how high NC A&T and Tenn-Martin should actually go when teams ahead of them have to lose will be the toughest part. Is there a ceiling for A&T? We are also getting to the point of the year where it's really hard to find 25 teams deserving of a vote - I think I had 30 or so fighting for 25, but a couple teams get upset in that 16-25 range again and it will be really hard to find 25.

1: James Madison Dukes
2: North Dakota State Bison
3: Sam Houston State Bearkats
4: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
5: South Dakota Coyotes
6: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
7: Illinois State Redbirds
8: Wofford Terriers
9: Youngstown State Penguins
10: Western Illinois Leathernecks
11: The Citadel Bulldogs
12: Central Arkansas Bears
13: Weber State Wildcats
14: North Carolina A&T Aggies
15: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
16: Eastern Washington Eagles
17: Villanova Wildcats
18: New Hampshire Wildcats
19: Elon Phoenix
20: Albany Great Danes
21: Stony Brook Seawolves
22: Montana State Bobcats
23: Richmond Spiders
24: Tennessee State Tigers
25: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens

Good thing half the teams in front of them will lose then.

[Thumper 76]

Ok

I'm calling sandbag on this one. No doubt about it. lol.
Ive already addressed this MK.

Not even a little. SDSU needs to prove to me that they can put even a little pressure on the qb of a team with a pulse. When I vote in the poll I don't do the optimistic fan thing, sorry. Jacks haven't looked good enough to be a top 5 team IMO. They could be, maybe the Montana St game they let off the gas and let them back in it. But they haven't hit the explosive plays to Goedert and Wieneke like they did last year, which made them so dangerous. Also they have had zero run game this year. Like, none, outside of TC when it comes to the starters. Doesn't bode well for the season. Yeah the passing attack is good enough to be top ten this year, but as a team they aren't top 5 yet.

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Well, if they come out and beat YSU and show we have a defense worth a spit then my ranking will show it. I'm not going to rank off of what I think will happen. I rank off of what I've seen.


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And I thought we had something special :(


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[milleniumkat]

This next week is going to be really challenging. Determining how high NC A&T and Tenn-Martin should actually go when teams ahead of them have to lose will be the toughest part. Is there a ceiling for A&T? We are also getting to the point of the year where it's really hard to find 25 teams deserving of a vote - I think I had 30 or so fighting for 25, but a couple teams get upset in that 16-25 range again and it will be really hard to find 25.

1: James Madison Dukes
2: North Dakota State Bison
3: Sam Houston State Bearkats
4: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
5: South Dakota Coyotes
6: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
7: Illinois State Redbirds
8: Wofford Terriers
9: Youngstown State Penguins
10: Western Illinois Leathernecks
11: The Citadel Bulldogs
12: Central Arkansas Bears
13: Weber State Wildcats
14: North Carolina A&T Aggies
15: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
16: Eastern Washington Eagles
17: Villanova Wildcats
18: New Hampshire Wildcats
19: Elon Phoenix
20: Albany Great Danes
21: Stony Brook Seawolves
22: Montana State Bobcats
23: Richmond Spiders
24: Tennessee State Tigers
25: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens

excellent poll sir

[Thumper 76]

excellent poll sir

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[Daytripper]

excellent poll sir

That's what she said......xdrunkyx

[Thumper 76]

That's what she said......xdrunkyx

Copycat


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[Daytripper]

Copycat


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The gif didn't show on the computer that I was on...

[NorthChuckSouth]

1: James Madison Dukes
2: North Dakota State Bison
3: Sam Houston State Bearkats
4: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
5: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
6: Youngstown State Penguins
7: Wofford Terriers
8: South Dakota Coyotes
9: The Citadel Bulldogs
10: Western Illinois Leathernecks
11: Illinois State Redbirds
12: Central Arkansas Bears
13: Villanova Wildcats
14: Eastern Washington Eagles
15: New Hampshire Wildcats
16: Richmond Spiders
17: North Carolina A&T Aggies
18: Weber State Wildcats
19: Albany Great Danes
20: Stony Brook Seawolves
21: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
22: Elon Phoenix
23: Charleston Southern Buccaneers
24: Samford Bulldogs
25: North Dakota Fighting Hawks
So I was somewhat hesistant to post this because I know I'll probably get drilled for having us in the top 25.. I was even asked about it by an admin. But hear me out.. yeah we only have one win against a NAIA school. I understand the hesistancy on this. But of our two losses, one is to Miss St and the other is to Elon, who has proven to be a good team, by two points. And we did not play well in the first half of that game. I also know the team really well and there's not a lot of drop off in talent from previous years to now. The Big South is weak.. there's no denying that, so we won't have much of a chance to really "prove" anything until playoffs. Just coming from a perspective most don't have.

As far as the rest of 11-25, kinda like everyone else, is somewhat of a toss up. If the rest of the season is like last weekend, it's going to be a fun year to fill this thing out.

[Catbooster]

1: James Madison Dukes
2: North Dakota State Bison
3: Sam Houston State Bearkats
4: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
5: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
6: Youngstown State Penguins
7: Wofford Terriers
8: South Dakota Coyotes
9: The Citadel Bulldogs
10: Western Illinois Leathernecks
11: Illinois State Redbirds
12: Central Arkansas Bears
13: Villanova Wildcats
14: Eastern Washington Eagles
15: New Hampshire Wildcats
16: Richmond Spiders
17: North Carolina A&T Aggies
18: Weber State Wildcats
19: Albany Great Danes
20: Stony Brook Seawolves
21: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
22: Elon Phoenix
23: Charleston Southern Buccaneers
24: Samford Bulldogs
25: North Dakota Fighting Hawks
So I was somewhat hesistant to post this because I know I'll probably get drilled for having us in the top 25.. I was even asked about it by an admin. But hear me out.. yeah we only have one win against a NAIA school. I understand the hesistancy on this. But of our two losses, one is to Miss St and the other is to Elon, who has proven to be a good team, by two points. And we did not play well in the first half of that game. I also know the team really well and there's not a lot of drop off in talent from previous years to now. The Big South is weak.. there's no denying that, so we won't have much of a chance to really "prove" anything until playoffs. Just coming from a perspective most don't have.

As far as the rest of 11-25, kinda like everyone else, is somewhat of a toss up. If the rest of the season is like last weekend, it's going to be a fun year to fill this thing out.
If that's your opinion, and you've got what you consider to be a good reason (having considered the counter-argument) then I don't see anything wrong with it. Mainly because it's so early in the season that there are lots of divergent views still.

However, it's unforgivable that you don't have Montana State above North Dakota xsmiley_wix

[JSUSoutherner]

excellent poll sir

That's what she said.

[TheKingpin28]

That's what she said.

That's what he said.

[POD Knows]

1: James Madison Dukes
2: North Dakota State Bison
3: Sam Houston State Bearkats
4: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
5: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
6: Youngstown State Penguins
7: Wofford Terriers
8: South Dakota Coyotes
9: The Citadel Bulldogs
10: Western Illinois Leathernecks
11: Illinois State Redbirds
12: Central Arkansas Bears
13: Villanova Wildcats
14: Eastern Washington Eagles
15: New Hampshire Wildcats
16: Richmond Spiders
17: North Carolina A&T Aggies
18: Weber State Wildcats
19: Albany Great Danes
20: Stony Brook Seawolves
21: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
22: Elon Phoenix
23: Charleston Southern Buccaneers
24: Samford Bulldogs
25: North Dakota Fighting Hawks
So I was somewhat hesistant to post this because I know I'll probably get drilled for having us in the top 25.. I was even asked about it by an admin. But hear me out.. yeah we only have one win against a NAIA school. I understand the hesistancy on this. But of our two losses, one is to Miss St and the other is to Elon, who has proven to be a good team, by two points. And we did not play well in the first half of that game. I also know the team really well and there's not a lot of drop off in talent from previous years to now. The Big South is weak.. there's no denying that, so we won't have much of a chance to really "prove" anything until playoffs. Just coming from a perspective most don't have.

As far as the rest of 11-25, kinda like everyone else, is somewhat of a toss up. If the rest of the season is like last weekend, it's going to be a fun year to fill this thing out.Why do you have North Dakota above Montana State? That is interesting. You do know that MSU beat them like a dog last Saturday.

[clenz]

I've seen both the teams play. SIU does look like a better team, but UNI loves crushing dreams after terrible OOC. So even though my brain thinks UNI gets trucked, wouldn't surprise me if now they look like a top 5 FCS team.
I've said it before...but...

Last year was the first time UNI lost an FCS OOC road game since 1997
Last year was the first time UNI los an FCS OOC home game since 2010 and just the third home OOC loss since 1997

Smack UNI all you want, just do it correctly.

[kalm]

25 of 25. What do I win?

Hello kalm,

We have received your AGS Top 25 vote on 9/24/2017 7:58:03

Your vote is listed below.


1: James Madison Dukes
2: North Dakota State Bison
3: Sam Houston State Bearkats
4: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
5: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
6: Youngstown State Penguins
7: South Dakota Coyotes
8: Wofford Terriers
9: The Citadel Bulldogs
10: Western Illinois Leathernecks
11: Illinois State Redbirds
12: Weber State Wildcats
13: Villanova Wildcats
14: Richmond Spiders
15: Eastern Washington Eagles
16: New Hampshire Wildcats
17: Central Arkansas Bears
18: Montana State Bobcats
19: Albany Great Danes
20: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
21: North Carolina A&T Aggies
22: Elon Phoenix
23: Stony Brook Seawolves
24: Southern Illinois Salukis
25: Western Carolina Catamounts

[BisonBacker]

If that's your opinion, and you've got what you consider to be a good reason (having considered the counter-argument) then I don't see anything wrong with it. Mainly because it's so early in the season that there are lots of divergent views still.

However, it's unforgivable that you don't have Montana State above North Dakota xsmiley_wix

Yup that is just wrong. Anyone who has them in their top 25 yet after the drubbing they got from Montana State just isn't paying attention.

[clenz]

So exactly what more could the Coyotes have done to be impressive at this point.

at Drake W 77-7
at Bowling Green W 35-27
vs UND 45-7

Maybe the Coyotes could have defeated Bowling Green more soundly, maybe they should have kept their foot on the gas and defeated UND closer to 66-7. You can only play who is in front of you. The Coyotes have been about as impressive as they possibly could. That doesn't guarantee anything going forward but I don't know what else anyone would want.
Nothing. You aren't wrong at all. You're 100% right.

Having said that....

Let's pretend, say, Gardner-Webb beat

Jacksonville 77-7 (also a PFL team that finished last year almost identical to Drake and is almost identical to them this year in computer models right now)
beat Charlotte 35-27 (BGSU and Charlotte are both 0-4 and in the bottom 6 of the FBS in every computer model)
Beat Chattanooga 45-7 (another team that was highly rated preseason and we've found to be utter garbage...actually right next to UND in computer ratings)

Would you make a case that G-W is a top 5-10 team? Probably not. They would probably fall somewhere in the 19-25 range in the poll.

G-W is a team, much like USD, that hasn't been very good.
I went out of my way to make sure that resume is as close to 100% identical to USD's as possible.


USD was aided by how high UND was ranked preseason. They are also still being helped by that and people slot voting and not adjusting USD based on what UND is. A good voter would look at that UND game and actually slide USD back a bit because of what's happened to UND this year. USD's opponents are a combined 1-9 against scholarship teams this year. The one win was UND over Missouri State.

From box scores it also looks like Nielson has left the starters in really late into games against Drake and UND, when most would have pulled starters at half or early in the third. That certainly would help in making games look even more impressive. Streveler was throwing passing into the 4th quarter of the UND game. According to the box scrore (and it could be wrong) Strevler played until 5:14 left in the game when USD took a time out and he was taken out.

Looks like most starters were out at half against Drake, but USD make sure they ran the score up as fast as they could before half. With the score 56-7 with 1:22 left in the first half USD took possession. Strevler threw 7 passes, and USD took 2 time outs, on that drive to get one more touchdown before half. The score was 56-7 and you're taking time outs and having your starter run a two minute drill against a non-scholarship team that has a history of losing to NAIA teams. The possession before started with 7:39 on the clock and a 5 score lead. Strevler threw 8 passes on that driver. He threw 26 passes in 1 half vs Drake. There were 16 run plays. That's the definition of running it up.


I can't deny USD has looked good. USD has done everything they can do with what's in front of them. That is 100% true.

Just think real hard about where you would realistically rank Gardner-Webb with the same resume.

[BisonBacker]

Nothing. You aren't wrong at all. You're 100% right.

Having said that....

Let's pretend, say, Gardner-Webb beat

Jacksonville 77-7 (also a PFL team that finished last year almost identical to Drake and is almost identical to them this year in computer models right now)
beat Charlotte 35-27 (BGSU and Charlotte are both 0-4 and in the bottom 6 of the FBS in every computer model)
Beat Chattanooga 45-7 (another team that was highly rated preseason and we've found to be utter garbage...actually right next to UND in computer ratings)

Would you make a case that G-W is a top 5-10 team? Probably not. They would probably fall somewhere in the 19-25 range in the poll.

G-W is a team, much like USD, that hasn't been very good.
I went out of my way to make sure that resume is as close to 100% identical to USD's as possible.


USD was aided by how high UND was ranked preseason. They are also still being helped by that and people slot voting and not adjusting USD based on what UND is. A good voter would look at that UND game and actually slide USD back a bit because of what's happened to UND this year. USD's opponents are a combined 1-9 against scholarship teams this year. The one win was UND over Missouri State.

From box scores it also looks like Nielson has left the starters in really late into games against Drake and UND, when most would have pulled starters at half or early in the third. That certainly would help in making games look even more impressive. Streveler was throwing passing into the 4th quarter of the UND game. According to the box scrore (and it could be wrong) Strevler played until 5:14 left in the game when USD took a time out and he was taken out.

Looks like most starters were out at half against Drake, but USD make sure they ran the score up as fast as they could before half. With the score 56-7 with 1:22 left in the first half USD took possession. Strevler threw 7 passes, and USD took 2 time outs, on that drive to get one more touchdown before half. The score was 56-7 and you're taking time outs and having your starter run a two minute drill against a non-scholarship team that has a history of losing to NAIA teams. The possession before started with 7:39 on the clock and a 5 score lead. Strevler threw 8 passes on that driver. He threw 26 passes in 1 half vs Drake. There were 16 run plays. That's the definition of running it up.


I can't deny USD has looked good. USD has done everything they can do with what's in front of them. That is 100% true.

Just think real hard about where you would realistically rank Gardner-Webb with the same resume.


Clenz you have explained that beautifully. I've quite honestly struggled with USD and ranking them in my last poll at 10th which I thought was pushing it. The next two weeks should give us a better idea of who they really are. Especially the Youngstown game.

[Thumper 76]

If that's your opinion, and you've got what you consider to be a good reason (having considered the counter-argument) then I don't see anything wrong with it. Mainly because it's so early in the season that there are lots of divergent views still.

However, it's unforgivable that you don't have Montana State above North Dakota xsmiley_wix

Yeah, it certainly doesn’t make his argument for ranking CSU look like anything other than blind homerism no matter how he justifies it away.


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[cx500d]

Yup that is just wrong. Anyone who has them in their top 25 yet after the drubbing they got from Montana State just isn't paying attention.


Yep....I get having UNH in there since it appears the Holy Cross win was a fluke, but UND?

[UNIFanSince1983]

Yeah, it certainly doesn’t make his argument for ranking CSU look like anything other than blind homerism no matter how he justifies it away.


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Yeah and Richmond 6 spots higher than a team that just beat them in their own stadium?

[ursus arctos horribilis]

The "My Team" field disappeared during the summer, wish it would come back.
Ursus- Can this be remedied?

It is still there. I don't know why some of you don't see it. We could start a thread in the "comments, suggestions" forum and try ot figure what those that can not see it have in common maybe?

Sorry, way behind on this thread.

[clenz]

It is still there. I don't know why some of you don't see it. We could start a thread in the "comments, suggestions" forum and try ot figure what those that can not see it have in common maybe?

Sorry, way behind on this thread.
I'm still seeing it as well.

Clear your cache and eat all your cookies, then come back to the site.

[BisonTru]

I'm still seeing it as well.

Clear your cache and eat all your cookies, then come back to the site.

I'm on a low carb diet.

[Schism55]

I use Firefox with NoScript addon, everything allowed on this site.
I logged out of this site, deleted all History, Cookies and Cache. Re-started Firefox and logged back in.
My Team field still gone :(

[ST_Lawson]

I use Chrome w/ uBlock Origin (but disabled for this site). I haven't seen the My Team field for a while.

I also tested it out in Firefox, Opera, and Edge, and it did not show up in any of them.

[centennial]

I've said it before...but...

Last year was the first time UNI lost an FCS OOC road game since 1997
Last year was the first time UNI los an FCS OOC home game since 2010 and just the third home OOC loss since 1997

Smack UNI all you want, just do it correctly.

The late runs have been saving UNI for a few years now. Granted UNI mostly lost vs FBS teams.
This year- 1-2
2016- 1-2
2015- 2-1
2014- 1-2
2013- 3-0
2012- 1-2

Playing desperate in October is almost a UNI thing. And this of second year in a row UNI lost to a Big Sky team in OOC, and then will cause havoc in conference. Somehow Farley will figure it out late in the season, crush some MVFC teams, fire some coaches, and then we rinse and repeat.

[BisonBacker]

I use Chrome and it's there xdrunkyx

[PantherRob82]

The late runs have been saving UNI for a few years now. Granted UNI mostly lost vs FBS teams.
This year- 1-2
2016- 1-2
2015- 2-1
2014- 1-2
2013- 3-0
2012- 1-2

Playing desperate in October is almost a UNI thing. And this of second year in a row UNI lost to a Big Sky team in OOC, and then will cause havoc in conference. Somehow Farley will figure it out late in the season, crush some MVFC teams, fire some coaches, and then we rinse and repeat.

I hope you are right, but I don't see us making in October run this time. It didn't really work out that way last year either.

[POD Knows]

It is still there. I don't know why some of you don't see it. We could start a thread in the "comments, suggestions" forum and try ot figure what those that can not see it have in common maybe?

Sorry, way behind on this thread.I am using Chrome and I cannot see it

http://www.anygivensaturday.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=26167&stc=1

[centennial]

I hope you are right, but I don't see us making in October run this time. It didn't really work out that way last year either.

My biggest thing is why start each season with a new offense? Get a good OC, give him a few years. But no, UNI is still changing how the offense works in the middle of the season. If Farley wasn't so bad he probably would've moved up to the FBS by now. UNI has close to the best talent in the FCS still keeps messing up. Should've won a NC using David Johnson.

[Catbooster]

I use chrome, didn't see it. Just went in settings and at the bottom I was in "light" style (don't remember ever setting this). Changed to default and now I see the teams.

Edit: went back to "light" and don't see them.

[Schism55]

I use chrome, didn't see it. Just went in settings and at the bottom I was in "light" style (don't remember ever setting this). Changed to default and now I see the teams.

Edit: went back to "light" and don't see them.
You nailed it! Problem is light style is definitely the best looking theme....

[POD Knows]

I use chrome, didn't see it. Just went in settings and at the bottom I was in "light" style (don't remember ever setting this). Changed to default and now I see the teams.

Edit: went back to "light" and don't see them.You broke the code, switch the settings off of light and it will restore the My Team info, I have no idea why mine was set on "light"

[Catbooster]

You nailed it! Problem is light style is definitely the best looking theme....Yeah, I like the light style better, but maybe it's just being used to it. I've tried a couple now, it seems to only be light.

[Schism55]

Yeah, I like the light style better, but maybe it's just being used to it. I've tried a couple now, it seems to only be light.
Yeah Light seems to be the only one missing My Team.
Hi-5 for figuring this out bud.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

I use chrome, didn't see it. Just went in settings and at the bottom I was in "light" style (don't remember ever setting this). Changed to default and now I see the teams.

Edit: went back to "light" and don't see them.

Nice work man. I'll try and figure that out when I get a minute but I was giving some thought to a complete new look in maybe January as it is so at least now we have that answer.

[McCowboys]

You nailed it! Problem is light style is definitely the best looking theme....

Yes, that fixed it as I now see the teams. For most of you, I recognize which team anyway. Now I need to decide if I like the new style or not. Thanks, Catbooster! I'm assuming you are a Delware fan. xlolx JK!

[Houndawg]

MSU was on my radar since week two. SIU took a boarderline top 25 FBS team to the edge and has two wins besides that. There's definitely a chance they are a top team, and when you look at the teams at the bottom of the polls they certainly have as much of an argument as any other team.


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I didn't see the game but the consensus among the Memphis fans that seemed to know the game was that while Memphis wasn't playing their best after the big win vs UCLA, SIU is better than advertised

[Houndawg]

Nothing? I don't think you're being fair... even with your apologetic points about Memphis. Even if the points are true, they are speculative. And the fact remains that SIU played them tough. That's more than nothing.

SIU could go 6-5 this year. Nick Hill is a good recruiter, but we're still a couple of seasons away, (like 10 seniors on the entire roster).

[Houndawg]

I've seen both the teams play. SIU does look like a better team, but UNI loves crushing dreams after terrible OOC. So even though my brain thinks UNI gets trucked, wouldn't surprise me if now they look like a top 5 FCS team.

Possible let down for SIU after leaving it on the field in front of 40k in the Liberty Bowl
.

[Houndawg]

Hard to entirely disagree - though UCLA also beat Texas A&M.

Part of what I like about SIU is the result of how many close games they lost a year ago they they went 4-7 .. 6 of those 7 losses were by 8 points or less, while playing against a top 10 SOS. Coming out of 2015 when they had a horrible defense and lost the best all around QB in league .. a true dual threat. Plus they got a new young HC. So I felt they had no business competing with good teams last year .. so got me thinking their new HC has got something going there. So they are my dark horse to surprise in MVFC the year.

He does. Of course SIU has had about $40,000,000cut by the state so he has his work cut out. I suspect he talks with Jerry Kill often and that he is going to be a good coach

[Houndawg]

My biggest thing is why start each season with a new offense? Get a good OC, give him a few years. But no, UNI is still changing how the offense works in the middle of the season. If Farley wasn't so bad he probably would've moved up to the FBS by now. UNI has close to the best talent in the FCS still keeps messing up. Should've won a NC using David Johnson.

Fumbled too much

[clenz]

As a freshman sure

He touched the ball 1,021 times in his 4 years on campus. He lost 9 fumbles, 4 of those as a freshman.

That is one fumble lost every 114 touches. That’s a pretty good rate.

Over his final 3 years it was 160 touches per fumble.

Compare that to a career ratio of a TD every 15 touches.

[Houndawg]

As a freshman sure

He touched the ball 1,021 times in his 4 years on campus. He lost 9 fumbles, 4 of those as a freshman.

That is one fumble lost every 114 touches. That’s a pretty good rate.

Over his final 3 years it was 160 touches per fumble.

Compare that to a career ratio of a TD every 15 touches.

I think a couple of those were against us, one of them a 100 yard return for a TD. Maybe he just had off days against us, I don't think he got 100 rushing on us until he was a senior and we had some bad defenses