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Professor Chaos
November 20th, 2016, 01:16 PM
http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/football/fcs/simple-ratings-system

So what do you think of "allegedly" the only ranking system the NCAA uses as an official tool of the selection committee this year?

Autobids underlined. At large teams in bold. Ineligible teams in red.

1. North Dakota St. 2.00
2. Eastern Wash. 1.91
3. Jacksonville St. 1.36
4. Sam Houston St. 1.35
5. South Dakota St. 1.22
6. The Citadel 1.22
7. James Madison 1.09
8. North Dakota 1.05
9. Central Ark. 1.03
10. Youngstown St. 1.02
11. Coastal Caro. 0.92
12. Charleston So. 0.86
13. Lehigh 0.86
14. Chattanooga 0.81
15. Grambling 0.77
16. Villanova 0.72
17. Wofford 0.70
18. Cal Poly 0.68
19. UNI 0.63
20. Southern Utah 0.49
21. Richmond 0.48
22. Illinois St. 0.46
23. Princeton 0.46
24. Samford 0.45
25. Western Ill. 0.43
26. San Diego 0.40
27. Weber St. 0.34
28. N.C. A&T 0.29
29. Montana 0.28
30. New Hampshire 0.24
31. Kennesaw St. 0.22
32. Southeastern La. 0.19
33. Duquesne 0.18
34. Southern U. 0.18
35. Albany (NY) 0.16
36. Fordham 0.11
37. South Dakota 0.11
38. N.C. Central 0.07
39. Northern Ariz. 0.06
40. Liberty 0.05
41. Penn 0.03
42. Maine 0.02
43. UT Martin 0.01
44. Northern Colo. -0.01
45. Mercer -0.02
46. Dayton -0.07
47. McNeese -0.07
48. Saint Francis (PA) -0.13
49. Nicholls St. -0.14
50. Eastern Ill. -0.15

Bison Fan in NW MN
November 20th, 2016, 01:18 PM
San Diego will win it!

:D

WrenFGun
November 20th, 2016, 01:26 PM
..guess that's why Albany didn't get in? Not sure how UNH wasn't last team in looking at that, though.

superman7515
November 20th, 2016, 01:34 PM
http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/football/fcs/simple-ratings-system

So what do you think of "allegedly" the only ranking system the NCAA uses as an official tool of the selection committee this year?

Autobids underlined. At large teams in bold. Ineligible teams in red.

1. North Dakota St. 2.00
2. Eastern Wash. 1.91
3. Jacksonville St. 1.36
4. Sam Houston St. 1.35
5. South Dakota St. 1.22
6. The Citadel 1.22
7. James Madison 1.09
8. North Dakota 1.05
9. Central Ark. 1.03
10. Youngstown St. 1.02
11. Coastal Caro. 0.92
12. Charleston So. 0.86
13. Lehigh 0.86
14. Chattanooga 0.81
15. Grambling 0.77
16. Villanova 0.72
17. Wofford 0.70
18. Cal Poly 0.68
19. UNI 0.63
20. Southern Utah 0.49
21. Richmond 0.48
22. Illinois St. 0.46
23. Princeton 0.46
24. Samford 0.45
25. Western Ill. 0.43
26. San Diego 0.40
27. Weber St. 0.34
28. N.C. A&T 0.29
29. Montana 0.28
30. New Hampshire 0.24
31. Kennesaw St. 0.22
32. Southeastern La. 0.19
33. Duquesne 0.18
34. Southern U. 0.18
35. Albany (NY) 0.16
36. Fordham 0.11
37. South Dakota 0.11
38. N.C. Central 0.07
39. Northern Ariz. 0.06
40. Liberty 0.05
41. Penn 0.03
42. Maine 0.02
43. UT Martin 0.01
44. Northern Colo. -0.01
45. Mercer -0.02
46. Dayton -0.07
47. McNeese -0.07
48. Saint Francis (PA) -0.13
49. Nicholls St. -0.14
50. Eastern Ill. -0.15


I made the teams who had less than 7 D1 wins red as well just to show people why I continue to use 7 D1 wins as my benchmark in the How They Fared sheets. Assuming New Hampshire, as the lowest rated at-large team in the SRS, was the last team in the playoffs, then they followed the formula exactly. Every eligbile team with 7 D1 wins was taken until they ran out of at-large bids.

The first teams left out would have been Southeastern Louisiana, Duquesne, Albany, and Fordham.

The Yo Show
November 20th, 2016, 02:14 PM
Great point Sup

Professor Chaos
November 20th, 2016, 03:27 PM
I made the teams who had less than 7 D1 wins red as well just to show people why I continue to use 7 D1 wins as my benchmark in the How They Fared sheets. Assuming New Hampshire, as the lowest rated at-large team in the SRS, was the last team in the playoffs, then they followed the formula exactly. Every eligbile team with 7 D1 wins was taken until they ran out of at-large bids.

The first teams left out would have been Southeastern Louisiana, Duquesne, Albany, and Fordham.
Thanks Supe!

Although the flaw in that logic is that they took a 6 win ISUr squad. I do think that they'd prefer any 7 win team if the resumes are close to comparable. For instance, had WIU not **** the bed against SIU yesterday to get to 7-4 I think they would've been in the field before 6-5 ISUr even though ISUr had the head-to-head win.

MTfan4life
November 20th, 2016, 03:31 PM
I made the teams who had less than 7 D1 wins red as well just to show people why I continue to use 7 D1 wins as my benchmark in the How They Fared sheets. Assuming New Hampshire, as the lowest rated at-large team in the SRS, was the last team in the playoffs, then they followed the formula exactly. Every eligbile team with 7 D1 wins was taken until they ran out of at-large bids.

The first teams left out would have been Southeastern Louisiana, Duquesne, Albany, and Fordham.

You need to make Samford red. One of their 7 wins was against the annual SoCon non d1 opponent Mars Hill.

Edit: my mistake..you don't have any playoff teams red...crazy to think if they followed this exactly, Southern Utah with a 6-3 fcs record would have been in and Samford with a 6-3 fcs record would have been left out. It was Samfords better wins that got them in over the t-birds.

grizband
November 20th, 2016, 04:11 PM
Thanks Supe!

Although the flaw in that logic is that they took a 6 win ISUr squad. I do think that they'd prefer any 7 win team if the resumes are close to comparable. For instance, had WIU not **** the bed against SIU yesterday to get to 7-4 I think they would've been in the field before 6-5 ISUr even though ISUr had the head-to-head win.
Had Montana shown up yesterday, and finished 7-4, they would have also had a claim at the playoffs.

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Redbird007
November 20th, 2016, 04:13 PM
..guess that's why Albany didn't get in? Not sure how UNH wasn't last team in looking at that, though.

They may have been the last team in....what makes you think they were not?

TheKingpin28
November 20th, 2016, 04:14 PM
Had Montana shown up yesterday, and finished 7-4, they would have also had a claim at the playoffs.

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ISUr would not have been in. Too much money lost to NOT have UM host at least 1 game.

Redbird007
November 20th, 2016, 04:19 PM
They may have been the last team in....what makes you think they were not?

In a standard seeding format the weakest team in the NDSU quadrant should be the weakest team in the 24 team field. But who knows how they massage everything due to travel.

Professor Chaos
November 20th, 2016, 04:31 PM
Had Montana shown up yesterday, and finished 7-4, they would have also had a claim at the playoffs.

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Agreed. Montana, Maine, WIU, and UNI all would have been in with a win yesterday IMO. All 4 lost.

grizband
November 20th, 2016, 04:32 PM
Agreed. Montana, Maine, WIU, and UNI all would have been in with a win yesterday IMO. All 4 lost.
It was a crazy day...in face the last two weeks were. Griz went from potentially 8-3, to 6-5....

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Redbird007
November 20th, 2016, 04:33 PM
Agreed. Montana, Maine, WIU, and UNI all would have been in with a win yesterday IMO. All 4 lost.

I think you are right. The biggest giveaway had to be via Montana losing.

ST_Lawson
November 20th, 2016, 04:58 PM
All we had to do was 1 more win....1 win the last three...against two teams that had been struggling for the first half of conference play and the last-place team in the conference...1 out of the three and we could have been in.

Ugh.

grizband
November 20th, 2016, 05:03 PM
All we had to do was 1 more win....1 win the last three...against two teams that had been struggling for the first half of conference play and the last-place team in the conference...1 out of the three and we could have been in.

Ugh.
I feel your pain...

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Redbird007
November 20th, 2016, 05:04 PM
All we had to do was 1 more win....1 win the last three...against two teams that had been struggling for the first half of conference play and the last-place team in the conference...1 out of the three and we could have been in.

Ugh.

That is painful especially considering the way the SIU game played out. WIU was up 10 some time early in the 4th and I thought it was all but over. The turnaround happened so fast.

ST_Lawson
November 20th, 2016, 05:04 PM
I feel your pain...

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ST_Lawson
November 20th, 2016, 05:10 PM
That is painful especially considering the way the SIU game played out. WIU was up 10 some time early in the 4th and I thought it was all but over. The turnaround happened so fast.

It really was a heartbreaker. We had that game...and then it all just went horribly wrong. I'm glad ISU was able to get in there, but it hurts knowing we were doing so well for the first part of the season and then completely fell apart at the end.

https://i.imgur.com/73bKHJa.png

BisonTru
November 20th, 2016, 06:36 PM
I made the teams who had less than 7 D1 wins red as well just to show people why I continue to use 7 D1 wins as my benchmark in the How They Fared sheets. Assuming New Hampshire, as the lowest rated at-large team in the SRS, was the last team in the playoffs, then they followed the formula exactly. Every eligbile team with 7 D1 wins was taken until they ran out of at-large bids.

The first teams left out would have been Southeastern Louisiana, Duquesne, Albany, and Fordham.

I'm not following.

You made the bolded statement, and then list four teams that fit the seven win threshold, but two 6 win teams made it in over them.