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carney2
September 24th, 2016, 09:33 PM
Week 5

The Patriot League season begins at last.

Friday, September 30:
GEORGETOWN @ Harvard

Saturday, October 1:
Cornell @ COLGATE
FORDHAM @ Monmouth
HOLY CROSS @ LAFAYETTE
LEHIGH @ Yale

Bye: BUCKNELL

Game of the Week: HOLY CROSS @ LAFAYETTE – Let the grumping and groaning begin, but how can you pass on the first League matchup of the season?! Besides, it’s The Schizophrenic, Chaotic Cross vs. The Gang That Can’t Shoot Straight. The drama and story lines in this one deserve at least two perpetual AGS threads to rival Lafayette at New Hampshire.

The only other game worth a look-see is LEHIGH @ Yale. Eli is sucking swamp water at 0-2 with a loss to traditional bottom feeder Cornell, so I’m not sure what this will tell us about the brown clads.

Go Lehigh TU owl
September 24th, 2016, 09:43 PM
I'd give the GOTW to Georgetown @ Harvard. The Hoyas are 3-0 for the first time since 1999 and you never know just how good Harvard is since they try to dodge decent OOC competition. I don't think Georgetown will win but I give them a shot...

Fordham at Monmouth is intriguing too.

Sader87
September 24th, 2016, 10:33 PM
Whomevah loses the Holy Cross-Lafayette game should just drop football....two very tired historic programs that have seen bettah days.

bonarae
September 24th, 2016, 10:45 PM
Harvard
Colgate
Fordham
Holy Cross
Lehigh

As for Georgetown at Harvard: the Crimson defense can be spotty at times. However, the offense can score a lot at will. Expect a close but no cigar game.

bonarae
September 24th, 2016, 10:46 PM
I'd give the GOTW to Georgetown @ Harvard. The Hoyas are 3-0 for the first time since 1999 and you never know just how good Harvard is since they try to dodge decent OOC competition. I don't think Georgetown will win but I give them a shot...

Fordham at Monmouth is intriguing too.

I agree with your picks. But then... Harvard is ranked in the polls at present. Could you give Sacred Heart a place in the polls too, now that they had upset the Seawolves? They are still in the ORV department.

DFW HOYA
September 24th, 2016, 10:46 PM
As for Georgetown at Harvard: the Crimson defense can be spotty at times. However, the offense can score a lot at will. Expect a close but no cigar game.

Georgetown has no running game.

ngineer
September 24th, 2016, 11:21 PM
Hoyas have to be sky high with 3-0 start and having a night game in the "yaaaard". I look for them to play very spirited and, in fact, the Johnnies could take advantage of some over-eagerness. Harvard in a surprisingly close one, 27-24.
Cornell with some confidence still won't have enough to swing by the 'gate. Red Raiders, 38-21.
Fordham and Monmouth could be a high scoring affair. I expect a very competitive game. Picking Rams, but wouldn't be surprised if the Hawks win. FU 34-31.
HC/LC game will depend on Pujals playing. If he can go and is reasonably close to 100%, then I see the Crusaders winning, 31-24. Without Pujals, Leotards will leg out a win, 24-17.
Hard to fathom what's going on in New Haven. Yale had a strong team last year, and I thought was picked to be a dark horse in the Ivy. Hopefully they don't find any answers between now and next Saturday. Mountain Hawk offense is on rocket fuel right now scoring 91 points and almost 1200 yards the past two weeks against Eli's Ivy partners Penn and Princeton. Past two weeks point to a blow out coming up, but Lehigh always has problems in "the Bowl". Picking my Engineering Mountain Hawks who will be looking to avenge two straight losses to the Eli, 45-27.
Bye, bye, Bucky, bye bye.

Sader87
September 24th, 2016, 11:25 PM
Seriously? Harvard is going to destroy GTown.....GTown would be 1-2 if they were playing in the high school Hockomock League in Massachusetts....Holy Cross would be 0-3.

Go...gate
September 24th, 2016, 11:57 PM
I'd give the GOTW to Georgetown @ Harvard. The Hoyas are 3-0 for the first time since 1999 and you never know just how good Harvard is since they try to dodge decent OOC competition. I don't think Georgetown will win but I give them a shot...

Fordham at Monmouth is intriguing too.

Agreed.

Go...gate
September 24th, 2016, 11:58 PM
Seriously? Harvard is going to destroy GTown.....GTown would be 1-2 if they were playing in the high school Hockomock League in Massachusetts....Holy Cross would be 0-3.

Harvard's OOC schedule is so light it is hard to tell.

DFW HOYA
September 25th, 2016, 12:16 AM
Harvard's OOC schedule is so light it is hard to tell.

As opposed to Davidson, Marist, and Columbia?

Sader87
September 25th, 2016, 12:20 AM
Seriously....good for the Hoyas....that being said, they don't have a chance in hell winning in Allston

NY Crusader 2010
September 25th, 2016, 12:54 AM
No GOTW love for Colgate-Cornell? A win by the Big Red this week would put them at 3-0 and would signify that they will be a factor in the Ivy race. Not to mention this is a rivalry game.

Harvard is going to burst the Georgetown bubble big-time this weekend.

HC-Lafayette is a pillow fight, but it could and should be a closely contested game.

I actually smelled upset last year when Fordham played Monmouth (I was wrong). The Rams offense will put on a show here.

carney2
September 25th, 2016, 08:18 AM
GEORGETOWN @ Harvard – What are you people smoking?! Congrats to the Hoyas for a great start, but wins over Davidson, Marist and Columbia do not make them a juggernaut! This will be an over early/often blowout. John names any score he wants.

Cornell @ COLGATE – The Ithacans will find that they’re not in Lewisburg anymore. Look up overrated in the dictionary and you will find team photos of Cornell’s first two opponents. Not this week and not close at the end.

FORDHAM @ Monmouth – The Rams do what the Squawks should have, but didn’t. Fordham starters may be able to spend the second half at the beach.

HOLY CROSS @ LAFAYETTE – Lafayette is better than most of you think and I was gonna pick them in this one no matter what. Now that the Cross has apparently lost one of the few true difference makers in the Patriot League, it’s a no brainer. I’m thinking that the Pards even show a semblance of a running game.

LEHIGH @ Yale – Eli looking very Columbia-esque. Could get ugly. For you Squawkers who haven’t seen the Yale Bowl and are debating the drive to CT, just do it. You’ll be glad you did and will add a new venue to your “top 10 FCS stadiums I’ve ever been in” list.

Fordham
September 25th, 2016, 10:44 AM
We are not a good football team. Tough one for us this week imo

kdinva
September 25th, 2016, 02:37 PM
Friday, September 30:
Georgetown 14 @ Harvard 31

Saturday, October 1:
Cornell 13 @ COLGATE 35
FORDHAM 34 @ Monmouth 24
Holy Cross 22 @ Lafayette 18
LEHIGH 27 @ Yale 20

Go Lehigh TU owl
September 25th, 2016, 02:40 PM
What's the extent of Pujals's injury?

caribbeanhen
September 25th, 2016, 03:11 PM
Whomevah loses the Holy Cross-Lafayette game should just drop football....two very tired historic programs that have seen bettah days.

oh c'mon we want our cupcakes and eat it to..

Ivytalk
September 25th, 2016, 03:53 PM
GEORGETOWN @ Harvard – What are you people smoking?! Congrats to the Hoyas for a great start, but wins over Davidson, Marist and Columbia do not make them a juggernaut! This will be an over early/often blowout. John names any score he wants.

Cornell @ COLGATE – The Ithacans will find that they’re not in Lewisburg anymore. Look up overrated in the dictionary and you will find team photos of Cornell’s first two opponents. Not this week and not close at the end.

FORDHAM @ Monmouth – The Rams do what the Squawks should have, but didn’t. Fordham starters may be able to spend the second half at the beach.

HOLY CROSS @ LAFAYETTE – Lafayette is better than most of you think and I was gonna pick them in this one no matter what. Now that the Cross has apparently lost one of the few true difference makers in the Patriot League, it’s a no brainer. I’m thinking that the Pards even show a semblance of a running game.

LEHIGH @ Yale – Eli looking very Columbia-esque. Could get ugly. For you Squawkers who haven’t seen the Yale Bowl and are debating the drive to CT, just do it. You’ll be glad you did and will add a new venue to your “top 10 FCS stadiums I’ve ever been in” list.
Carney has it right. Harvard by 17+.

van
September 25th, 2016, 05:28 PM
GEORGETOWN @ Harvard, Hoyas come back to earth, just another cupcake for John

Cornell @ COLGATE, gate O should have a big day

FORDHAM @ Monmouth, Rams may have their hands full over in Jersey but should have enough fire power to get the W

HOLY CROSS @ LAFAYETTE, Cross in turmoil and Pards are solid and at home

LEHIGH @ Yale, engineers are en fuego on O and D is getting better, another chance at payback in the Yale bowl

Go...gate
September 25th, 2016, 06:52 PM
As opposed to Davidson, Marist, and Columbia?

3-0 is 3-0. It is perfectly all right to be happy for your team.

DFW HOYA
September 25th, 2016, 09:51 PM
3-0 is 3-0. It is perfectly all right to be happy for your team.

I think people are happy but let's be realistic. Any PL team would be 3-0 against that assemblage of competition.

The Hoyas managed just eight first downs against Columbia, three of which came in the first series. The defense held up but that's not a winning formula against Harvard, particularly if the Hoyas' starting RB was hurt at the end of Saturday's game. The backup is 5-6 and 160, which speaks to how Georgetown's depth is nonexistent in recruiting.

Lehigh Football Nation
September 25th, 2016, 10:06 PM
I think people are happy but let's be realistic. Any PL team would be 3-0 against that assemblage of competition.

The Hoyas managed just eight first downs against Columbia, three of which came in the first series. The defense held up but that's not a winning formula against Harvard, particularly if the Hoyas' starting RB was hurt at the end of Saturday's game. The backup is 5-6 and 160, which speaks to how Georgetown's depth is nonexistent in recruiting.

It's always sunny in the District, even after a 3-0 start!

World
September 26th, 2016, 02:44 AM
Friday, September 30:
GEORGETOWN @ Harvard

Saturday, October 1:
Cornell @ COLGATE
FORDHAM @ Monmouth
HOLY CROSS @ LAFAYETTE
LEHIGH @ Yale

Gangtackle11
September 26th, 2016, 03:32 AM
Last Week: 5-2 Season: 18-7

Harvard 38 Georgetown 12 - The Crimson apparently don't like Georgetown's company being undefeated.

Colgate 31 Cornell 15 - Raiders need to get going now.

Fordham 37 Monmouth 28 - Rams clip Hawks' wings.

Holy Cross 27 Lafayette 16 - Vultures circling for Gilmore are disappointed here.

Yale 34 Lehigh 26 - Mountain Hawks can't complete their Ivy sweep.

bgsmitty43
September 26th, 2016, 06:07 AM
In defense of Georgetown, Columbia is not that bad. They will win some Ivy games this year. Bagnoli is a good coach. His offense is creative and has two experienced QBs with good arms, just need to work on inconsistency. I was at the Hoya Homecoming and agree, GU has not yet established a solid running game and that will hurt them in PL competition. I wish they were a bit more creative in their offensive strategy. Their D is solid. Loughery is a beast at MLB and Soph. OLB Butler is all over the field and doubles as a pass rusher on throwing downs. I don't know why GU is traveling to Harvard two years in a row, that trip on a bus is a killer. Hoping the Hoyas can give a stout effort, definitely have potential and momentum to make it close. WR Justin Hill will be back, I hope, which gives another weapon. It will either be close or a Harvard rout. My pick is Harvard 24 Georgetown 20.

jimbo65
September 26th, 2016, 07:30 AM
Harvard, the streak ends in a big way

Colgate

Fordham

Lafayette, toss up

Lehigh

eiu1999
September 26th, 2016, 09:11 AM
Friday, September 30:
GEORGETOWN @ Harvard


Saturday, October 1:
Cornell @ COLGATE
FORDHAM @ Monmouth
HOLY CROSS @ LAFAYETTE
LEHIGH @ Yale

crusader11
September 26th, 2016, 01:31 PM
Lafayette didn't look all that bad against Villanova. Take away that fumble on the first play from scrimmage where Nova scooped and scored, and it may be a different game. Another backbreaker for Lafayette was when Wadsworth dropped a 3rd down catch in the second half that would have extended a drive (one possession game at the time). Villanova then came down and scored, which sealed the game.

Without Pujals, HC doesn't win this game, IMO. With him, it's a toss-up.

Bogus Megapardus
September 26th, 2016, 05:38 PM
HC-Lafayette is a pillow fight


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Lehigh Football Nation
September 26th, 2016, 05:52 PM
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I missed you Bogie.

Bogus Megapardus
September 26th, 2016, 06:11 PM
Week 5 Sportsbook:

Harvard (-22½) vs Georgetown o/u 51½

Brown (-12½) at Rhode Island o/u 59½

Princeton (-4½) at Columbia o/u 39½

Colgate (-13½) vs Cornell o/u 47½

Fordham (-8½) at Monmouth o/u 63½

Lehigh (-6½) at Yale o/u 65½

Holy Cross (-10½) at Lafayette o/u 57½

Dartmouth (-14½) vs Penn o/u 48½

Fordham
September 26th, 2016, 06:16 PM
How is Monmouth's offense? Do they have a good running game? If so, we're in trouble. Really decimated with injuries on the line and LB

RichH2
September 26th, 2016, 06:22 PM
How is Monmouth's offense? Do they have a good running game? If so, we're in trouble. Really decimated with injuries on the line and LB

MU has a very good RB and a decent OL.

carney2
September 26th, 2016, 06:43 PM
Holy Cross by 10 1/2 over Lafayette - and my bookie's in jail.

TheValleyRaider
September 26th, 2016, 09:31 PM
5-2 last week. Off on Colgate and Bucknell, which means oh so very close to a perfect week. Oh well. 19-6 on the season

Georgetown at Harvard Harvard What a start for the Hoyas, 3-0 for the first time since...well at least the first time since joining the PL. Well done Georgetown. Harvard, though, is a different ball of wax. The Crimson are among the Ivy favorites, quite a step up from Columbia and Davidson. Depending on how the PL shapes up, particularly health-wise, the Hoyas may have a shot at .500 on the season. But this won't be among the wins.

Cornell at Colgate Colgate A tough loss in Richmond sends the 'Gate to 1-2 with the most difficult stretch of their season over. On the one hand, I'll feel better when I actually see the team bounce back after a tough loss. On the other, they already showed some great fight in nearly coming back from 21 down in the 4th. Cornell, meanwhile, is actually 2-0. How about that. If you're asking me to be impressed, though, well: Bucknell continues to falter, and we thumped Yale by a bigger margin in the Yale Bowl. What's that, transitive property doesn't work in college football? Better dead than Big Red. That is my answer to you. Dear SUNY-Ithaca, come and get you some.

Fordham at Monmouth Fordham The Hawks have a nice victory against a PL favorite already this year, swiping one from Lehigh in the season opener. Since then, they haven't done much unexpected, beating Delaware St, and falling to an FBS and Chuck South. Fordham has a nice win over Penn to hang their hat on so far, which isn't bad, which means Monmouth has more wins against the PL than the Quakers so far this year. That must mean something, though I'm not sure what that is. I still don't know what to make of the Rams, but I remain confident. I'll take a PL favorite over Monmouth in this second round.

Holy Cross at Lafayette Lafayette I hesitate to call this the Disappointment Bowl, seeing as Lafayette has actually performed up to spec at this point. That is disappointing in its own way, but not quite the same as the situation Holy Cross finds itself in. Without any more information on Pujals, I'm really forced to fly blind on this one. On the one hand, I think HC might be the more talented team. On the other, I'm not sure what the mindset of either team is, which makes me lean towards the home team. Lafayette has actually come close in recent weeks, so we'll see if they get over the hump here.

Lehigh at Yale Lehigh To say Yale's had a disappointing start to the season would be an understatement. Getting thumped by Colgate, then beaten by Cornell is not what they were expecting in New Haven. Lehigh, meanwhile, had a pretty disappointing start as well, given their aforementioned loss to Monmouth. Since then, though, the Hawks have improved, dropping 40 points on a pair of Ivy foes. I'm not sure Yale is capable of holding the Hawks under 40, nor am I convinced they can keep up on offense. Lehigh gets back over .500, just in time for a big early October (*sigh) showdown with Colgate.

Lehigh Football Nation
September 26th, 2016, 10:15 PM
Holy Cross by 10 1/2 over Lafayette - and my bookie's in jail.

Psst look at Lehigh - 6 1/2 too

RichH2
September 27th, 2016, 07:16 AM
[QUOTE=TheValleyRaider;2383496]5-2 last week. Off on Colgate and Bucknell, which means oh so very close to a perfect week. Oh well. 19-6 on the season

Georgetown at Harvard Harvard What a start for the Hoyas, 3-0 for the first time since...well at least the first time since joining the PL. Well done Georgetown. Harvard, though, is a different ball of wax. The Crimson are among the Ivy favorites, quite a step up from Columbia and Davidson. Depending on how the PL shapes up, particularly health-wise, the Hoyas may have a shot at .500 on the season. But this won't be among the wins.

Cornell at Colgate Colgate A tough loss in Richmond sends the 'Gate to 1-2 with the most difficult stretch of their season over. On the one hand, I'll feel better when I actually see the team bounce back after a tough loss. On the other, they already showed some great fight in nearly coming back from 21 down in the 4th. Cornell, meanwhile, is actually 2-0. How about that. If you're asking me to be impressed, though, well: Bucknell continues to falter, and we thumped Yale by a bigger margin in the Yale Bowl. What's that, transitive property doesn't work in college football? Better dead than Big Red. That is my answer to you. Dear SUNY-Ithaca, come and get you some.

Fordham at Monmouth Fordham The Hawks have a nice victory against a PL favorite already this year, swiping one from Lehigh in the season opener. Since then, they haven't done much unexpected, beating Delaware St, and falling to an FBS and Chuck South. Fordham has a nice win over Penn to hang their hat on so far, which isn't bad, which means Monmouth has more wins against the PL than the Quakers so far this year. That must mean something, though I'm not sure what that is. I still don't know what to make of the Rams, but I remain confident. I'll take a PL favorite over Monmouth in this second round.

Holy Cross at Lafayette Lafayette I hesitate to call this the Disappointment Bowl, seeing as Lafayette has actually performed up to spec at this point. That is disappointing in its own way, but not quite the same as the situation Holy Cross finds itself in. Without any more information on Pujals, I'm really forced to fly blind on this one. On the one hand, I think HC might be the more talented team. On the other, I'm not sure what the mindset of either team is, which makes me lean towards the home team. Lafayette has actually come close in recent weeks, so we'll see if they get over the hump here.

Lehigh at Yale Lehigh To say Yale's had a disappointing start to the season would be an understatement. Getting thumped by Colgate, then beaten by Cornell is not what they were expecting in New Haven. Lehigh, meanwhile, had a pretty disappointing start as well, given their aforementioned loss to Monmouth. Since then, though, the Hawks have improved, dropping 40 points on a pair of Ivy foes. I'm not sure Yale is capable of holding the Hawks under 40, nor am I convinced they can keep up on offense. Lehigh gets back over .500, just in time for a big


It is just wrong for Gate Lehigh not to be in Nov. Opening PL game? Sucks.

Go Lehigh TU owl
September 27th, 2016, 07:46 AM
[QUOTE=TheValleyRaider;2383496]5-2 last week. Off on Colgate and Bucknell, which means oh so very close to a perfect week. Oh well. 19-6 on the season

Georgetown at Harvard Harvard What a start for the Hoyas, 3-0 for the first time since...well at least the first time since joining the PL. Well done Georgetown. Harvard, though, is a different ball of wax. The Crimson are among the Ivy favorites, quite a step up from Columbia and Davidson. Depending on how the PL shapes up, particularly health-wise, the Hoyas may have a shot at .500 on the season. But this won't be among the wins.

Cornell at Colgate Colgate A tough loss in Richmond sends the 'Gate to 1-2 with the most difficult stretch of their season over. On the one hand, I'll feel better when I actually see the team bounce back after a tough loss. On the other, they already showed some great fight in nearly coming back from 21 down in the 4th. Cornell, meanwhile, is actually 2-0. How about that. If you're asking me to be impressed, though, well: Bucknell continues to falter, and we thumped Yale by a bigger margin in the Yale Bowl. What's that, transitive property doesn't work in college football? Better dead than Big Red. That is my answer to you. Dear SUNY-Ithaca, come and get you some.

Fordham at Monmouth Fordham The Hawks have a nice victory against a PL favorite already this year, swiping one from Lehigh in the season opener. Since then, they haven't done much unexpected, beating Delaware St, and falling to an FBS and Chuck South. Fordham has a nice win over Penn to hang their hat on so far, which isn't bad, which means Monmouth has more wins against the PL than the Quakers so far this year. That must mean something, though I'm not sure what that is. I still don't know what to make of the Rams, but I remain confident. I'll take a PL favorite over Monmouth in this second round.

Holy Cross at Lafayette Lafayette I hesitate to call this the Disappointment Bowl, seeing as Lafayette has actually performed up to spec at this point. That is disappointing in its own way, but not quite the same as the situation Holy Cross finds itself in. Without any more information on Pujals, I'm really forced to fly blind on this one. On the one hand, I think HC might be the more talented team. On the other, I'm not sure what the mindset of either team is, which makes me lean towards the home team. Lafayette has actually come close in recent weeks, so we'll see if they get over the hump here.

Lehigh at Yale Lehigh To say Yale's had a disappointing start to the season would be an understatement. Getting thumped by Colgate, then beaten by Cornell is not what they were expecting in New Haven. Lehigh, meanwhile, had a pretty disappointing start as well, given their aforementioned loss to Monmouth. Since then, though, the Hawks have improved, dropping 40 points on a pair of Ivy foes. I'm not sure Yale is capable of holding the Hawks under 40, nor am I convinced they can keep up on offense. Lehigh gets back over .500, just in time for a big


It is just wrong for Gate Lehigh not to be in Nov. Opening PL game? Sucks.

Earliest this game has been since 1997. Hopefully it goes back to its normal time next year!

ZableNoise
September 27th, 2016, 10:17 AM
Seriously? Harvard is going to destroy GTown.....GTown would be 1-2 if they were playing in the high school Hockomock League in Massachusetts....Holy Cross would be 0-3.

Wow shoutout to The Hock! My dad grew up playing in that league

Go Lehigh TU owl
September 27th, 2016, 10:56 AM
Weather could be a factor in the Northeast this weekend. I might try to play a round of golf in New Haven (event at The Course at Yale this weekend so that fell through) early Saturday morning. I'll have my rain gear handy....

Gate83
September 27th, 2016, 05:31 PM
[QUOTE=RichH2;2383643]

Earliest this game has been since 1997. Hopefully it goes back to its normal time next year!

Next year is actually worse from a Gate perspective... Lehigh October 7 followed by Fordham on the 14th, first two games on the league schedule.

Bogus Megapardus
September 27th, 2016, 06:14 PM
DFW HOYA - can you give us a Cooper Field update? No word from the AD?

ngineer
September 27th, 2016, 07:19 PM
[QUOTE=Go Lehigh TU owl;2383652]

Next year is actually worse from a Gate perspective... Lehigh October 7 followed by Fordham on the 14th, first two games on the league schedule.

Plus not frozen tundra in early October.

ColgateTD
September 27th, 2016, 07:23 PM
Harvard - by 27
Colgate - by 28
Fordham - by 3
Holy Cross - by 3
Lehigh - by 21

19-6

Go...gate
September 27th, 2016, 07:50 PM
[QUOTE=Gate83;2383922]

Plus not frozen tundra in early October.

But, like Goodman Stadium, it is a beautiful and traditional Fall football setting.

Go Lehigh TU owl
September 27th, 2016, 07:58 PM
[QUOTE=ngineer;2383953]

But, like Goodman Stadium, it is a beautiful and traditional Fall football setting.

The only bright side is Seven Oaks will still be open for sure. I'll be able to sneak a round in before the game! xthumbsupx

TheValleyRaider
September 27th, 2016, 08:26 PM
Plus not frozen tundra in early October.

Cross your fingers, a cold snap is always possible in Hamilton ;)

DFW HOYA
September 28th, 2016, 10:32 AM
DFW HOYA - can you give us a Cooper Field update? No word from the AD?

I'm hearing things third-hand, and things can change, so let me be diplomatic and say that the plans sound disappointing and would be a less adventurous undertaking than was previously promoted. There is also a sense that their hands may be tied by other space needs pressing within the University, which is not unusual at Georgetown.

carney2
September 28th, 2016, 10:49 AM
Gilmore is understandably being a little less than forthcoming about the Pujals injury. The QB did not practice yesterday and the staff is supposedly still awaiting definitive word on his condition. If, as some reports have it, he has a high ankle sprain, all need to face the fact that these take a long time to heal. Even if he suits up on Saturday I would suspect that a key part of his game, his mobility, will be seriously impaired.

Go Green
September 28th, 2016, 11:07 AM
I'm hearing things third-hand, and things can change, so let me be diplomatic and say that the plans sound disappointing and would be a less adventurous undertaking than was previously promoted. There is also a sense that their hands may be tied by other space needs pressing within the University, which is not unusual at Georgetown.

The Thompson Center looks awesome, though!

PAllen
September 28th, 2016, 01:06 PM
I'm hearing things third-hand, and things can change, so let me be diplomatic and say that the plans sound disappointing and would be a less adventurous undertaking than was previously promoted. There is also a sense that their hands may be tied by other space needs pressing within the University, which is not unusual at Georgetown.

That's very disappointing to hear. That's now twice that the University has raised funds for a stadium that didn't materialize as priorities were placed elsewhere. I think it's a huge mistake on the administration's part. How do you ever raise funds for a sports stadium again, or any other building or purpose for that matter, if it is now well known that you are likely to unapologetically take the funds and use them elsewhere?

DFW HOYA
September 28th, 2016, 04:03 PM
That's very disappointing to hear. That's now twice that the University has raised funds for a stadium that didn't materialize as priorities were placed elsewhere. I think it's a huge mistake on the administration's part. How do you ever raise funds for a sports stadium again, or any other building or purpose for that matter, if it is now well known that you are likely to unapologetically take the funds and use them elsewhere?

The funds aren't being used elsewhere.

Bill
September 28th, 2016, 07:47 PM
Fared much better last week; improving to 18-7 overall.

Friday, September 30:
GEORGETOWN @ Harvard - Would love to pick the Hoyas here...but I can't. Harvard, 24-14.

Saturday, October 1:
Cornell @ COLGATE - all Gate, all the time. Red Raiders, 28-7.
FORDHAM @ Monmouth - Please Boogie down, bring honour back to our league and do what Lehigh could not. Fun fact: My grandfather went to Fordham. "Rams", 42-26.
HOLY CROSS @ LAFAYETTE - Uggh. HC, 7-6.
LEHIGH @ Yale - Lehigh should win going away...which is why this will be close. May not trust our defense again until Gilmore returns :) Engineers, 32-30.

PAllen
September 29th, 2016, 07:54 AM
The funds aren't being used elsewhere.

Well then where did all of the funds raised for what ended up as MSF go? Where are the funds that were donated to finally finish it (sort of)? Perhaps I misunderstood your comment about priorities being elsewhere.

Go...gate
September 29th, 2016, 10:31 PM
Fordham 37, Monmouth 27

Harvard 28, Georgetown 6

Colgate 24, Cornell 16

Lafayette 21, Holy Cross 20

Lehigh 33, Yale 23

Bonus Pick: Columbia 23, Princeton 21

Go Lehigh TU owl
September 29th, 2016, 10:47 PM
7-0 Last Week, 20-5 on the year....

Harvard 31 Georgetown 16 - Harvard rarely loses at home. I think Georgetown will keep it respectable but their offense is too limited to win....

Fordham 41 Monmouth 27 - The Rams do what Lehigh couldn't, play a full 60 minutes against Monmouth. The Hawks are a scrappy team but Fordham is more talented....

Colgate 30 Cornell 21 - The Big Red are definitely improved. How much so will be seen on Saturday. Colgate has waited too long to play on their home field to lose...

Lehigh 38 Yale 17 - Lehigh's defense needs to step up against a bumbling Yale "O". Just don't get caught looking ahead to next week...

Lafayette 24 Holy Cross 13 - The Leopards have talent but their running game stinks and they turn it over too much. That's still less problems than Holy Cross has right now. The winner has a pulse as league play really gets going. The loser is dead and their coach should be fired immediately....

PAllen
September 30th, 2016, 04:34 AM
Harvard - They're at home, and GU's record is built on cupcake icing
Fordham - Monmouth isn't that good, but how good is Fordham?
Colgate - Toothpaste for the win
Yale - Lehigh should win easily, but it's the Yale bowl, and it's Lehigh, so another close loss here.
Lafayette - Can any team fall apart more than HC right now?

Leopard Loyalist
September 30th, 2016, 07:46 AM
Friday, September 30:
GEORGETOWN @ Harvard

Saturday, October 1:
Cornell @ COLGATE
FORDHAM @ Monmouth
HOLY CROSS @ LAFAYETTE
LEHIGH @ Yale

KillaBee
September 30th, 2016, 08:10 AM
Well, Well, I've been away at the HIVE!!! working diligently making honey!!! It is now time to fly out into conference play. The Patriot League conference play always been a surprises.. Every year, any team can resurrect to become Champion.

This year I have 4 losses,, 3 of which have come from the Leopards, however, I believe the corner has been turned, and the Leopards.

Hopefully the Leopards have found a positive rhythm which will lead into the poly-rhythms of victory over the Crusaders.
Harvard
Colgate
Monmouth
Lehigh

MR. CHICKEN
September 30th, 2016, 12:10 PM
HARVARD
COLGATE
FORDHAM
LAFAYETTE
LEHIGH

RichH2
September 30th, 2016, 01:27 PM
Harvard
Gate
Rams but not a cakewalk
Lehigh. Should be a definite W. Y on their 3rd QB. Bowl has not been nice for us. Lousy weather, Shaf a bad ankle may slow us down. Yale D not great but s/b better than Tigers. Our D must keep improving as we head into conference play nextvweek.
Not surprised if Mayes gets a lot of PT if Shaf not 100%
Cross Pards. No Pujols a W for Pards. ThevPistol plays and well Cross ekes it out.

Lehigh'98
September 30th, 2016, 01:41 PM
8 losses on the season.
Harvard 42-6
Colgate 42-6
Lehigh 42-6
Fordham 42-6
Lafayette 41-7

Bogus Megapardus
September 30th, 2016, 03:30 PM
Cantabudours smite the Seeds of Damian by XXIV
Lost Indians etiolate Little Red by 10
Faded Lombardis win Down th' Shore by 7
Little Beech Trees snap Urban II's Brigade by 3
Eleven Shades of Brown wipe Handsome Dan with 17



EDIT - Orange ya glad I said good bye? :p

Lehigh Football Nation
September 30th, 2016, 03:52 PM
Bonus Pick: Columbia 23, Princeton 21

I love this pick. Something doesn't seem all that well in Tigerland.

Bogus Megapardus
September 30th, 2016, 04:22 PM
Holy Cross fans - who's this guy?


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Lehigh Football Nation
September 30th, 2016, 05:26 PM
SPECIAL FRIDAY PICK:

Harvard 28, Hoyas 6 - Thinking it will confirm the worst in both Harvard fans' and Hoyas fans' fears about their own teams.

Bogus Megapardus
September 30th, 2016, 05:53 PM
Thinking it will confirm the worst in both Harvard fans' and Hoyas fans' fears about their own teams.

Worst fears? It's not at all an unreasonable prediction, LFN.

Bogus Megapardus
September 30th, 2016, 06:08 PM
Friday evening games

Georgetown at Harvard - http://www.espn.com/watchespn/player/_/id/2878120/

Penn at Dartmouth - http://stream.nbcsports.com/nbcsn/generic?pid=27229

Bogus Megapardus
September 30th, 2016, 07:29 PM
Penn dominating Dartmouth at the half, 28 - 10.

Ivytalk
September 30th, 2016, 09:34 PM
Harvard sleepwalked to 31-17 win over Hoyas. Embarrassing.

Lehigh Football Nation
September 30th, 2016, 10:07 PM
SPECIAL FRIDAY PICK:

Harvard 28, Hoyas 6 - Thinking it will confirm the worst in both Harvard fans' and Hoyas fans' fears about their own teams.


Harvard sleepwalked to 31-17 win over Hoyas. Embarrassing.

Narrative nailed.

Go Lehigh TU owl
September 30th, 2016, 10:07 PM
Harvard sleepwalked to 31-17 win over Hoyas. Embarrassing.

I had it 31-16 Harvard. Ohh so close...

The Hoyas defense won't allow them to get embarassed. They have a shot at 6/7 wins imo....

Lehigh Football Nation
September 30th, 2016, 10:28 PM
Though tempting to retire 1-0, I'll continue to pick this weekend's slate.

Saturday, October 1:

Colgate 31, Cornell 14 - The 2-0 Big Red will stun the world by scoring a pair of touchdowns against Colgate.
Fordham 28, Monmouth 14 - Monmouth's defense is pretty good. If they can find enough holes in Fordham's D, they could win, but I think Rams are good enough to take this.
Frankasaurs 18, Crusaders 15, 3 OT - Low scoring paleozoic football, assuming Pujals is out. Advantage: Leopards.
Lehigh 34, Yale 27 - This game will not be a blowout. (http://lehighfootballnation.blogspot.com/2016/09/lehigh-at-yale-game-breakdown-and.html)

Pard4Life
October 1st, 2016, 08:42 AM
Harvard 42, Georgetown 10
Colgate 35, SUNY-Ithaca 21
Fordham 24, Monmouth 17
Lehigh 45, Yalies 20
Lafayette 31, Holy Cross 17 in the Hot (toilet) Seat Bowl

Go Lehigh TU owl
October 1st, 2016, 12:43 PM
No Shaf No problem to start....

7-0 Lehigh 12:40 1Q

crusader11
October 1st, 2016, 12:49 PM
Just arrived in beautiful Easton and saw that Shaf isn't playing for Lehigh? What's the story here?

TheValleyRaider
October 1st, 2016, 12:51 PM
Cornell 0
Colgate 21
End 1st

3 drives, 3 scores. Looking good all over the field. 2 long TD receptions for John Maddaluna, then a long drive for score #3. Great start to the day. Cornell has made a few big passes, and is around midfield now...

Oh, and post #10000 :)

Go Lehigh TU owl
October 1st, 2016, 12:52 PM
Just arrived in beautiful Easton and saw that Shaf isn't playing for Lehigh? What's the story here?

Total precation with Colgate next week. Mayes is totally capable. He's the heir apparent....

Go Lehigh TU owl
October 1st, 2016, 12:59 PM
Mayes to TP for a 50 yard or so TD! TP is beasting...

14-0 Lehigh 7:14 1Q

Go Lehigh TU owl
October 1st, 2016, 01:05 PM
Yale scores on two long runs...

14-7 LU 6:32 1Q

PAllen
October 1st, 2016, 01:05 PM
And the Lehigh defense shows up. 14-7 Lehigh 6:32 1stQ

Go Lehigh TU owl
October 1st, 2016, 01:10 PM
Yale's pass D might be worse than the LU run D. Mayes to Casey for another 50+ yard TD

21-7 5:21 1Q

2ram
October 1st, 2016, 01:30 PM
turnovers proving costly for monmouth as fordham goes up 27-13 just before halftime.

Go Lehigh TU owl
October 1st, 2016, 01:33 PM
Lehigh absolutely destroying the Yale D. Pelletier could break every record there is today if it wasnt such a blowout.

35-7 11:35 2Q

TheValleyRaider
October 1st, 2016, 01:34 PM
Cornell 12
Colgate 31
Halftime

Cornell's punter has been their best player, a deep punt leading to a safety and eventually a field goal. Their defense held at the goal line to force a FG at the half. Otherwise, they don't really have an answer for Melville, Maddaluna, and the 'Gate offense. Defense has played well outside of one or two big plays, but overall plenty to be pleased with

Go Lehigh TU owl
October 1st, 2016, 01:37 PM
Lehigh D gives up another big play....

35-14 10:56 2Q

Go Lehigh TU owl
October 1st, 2016, 01:45 PM
No killer instinct. Yale with a punt return on terrible coverage. Half the coverage team overrun the punt...

35-21 8:40 2Q

Lehigh'98
October 1st, 2016, 01:55 PM
I think the under is toast. 35-28

Go Lehigh TU owl
October 1st, 2016, 01:55 PM
Lehigh's D is terrible. TP will have to break every record to win. This is embarrassing....

Lehigh 35-28 4:56 2Q

Southsider
October 1st, 2016, 01:59 PM
Lehigh's D is terrible. TP will have to break every record to win. This is embarrassing....

Lehigh 35-28 4:56 2Q

Now tell us something we don't know. If Bot is back next year I will give up my support. Getting very tired of this stuff.

Go Lehigh TU owl
October 1st, 2016, 01:59 PM
This is a video game...

42-28 Lehigh 3:12 2Q

Lehigh'98
October 1st, 2016, 02:02 PM
Mayes is a stud.

Go Lehigh TU owl
October 1st, 2016, 02:14 PM
Lehigh conservative to end the half. Why? Those last two possessions on offense didn't make any sense...

42-28 Half

bulldog10jw
October 1st, 2016, 02:15 PM
Lehigh's D is terrible.


Yale's D is worse. Maybe the worst in recent memory.

Fordham
October 1st, 2016, 02:16 PM
We're in a dogfight. 27-20. Wasted numerous opportunities to put it away. Monmouth has handed us a bunch of opportunities to do so

Go Lehigh TU owl
October 1st, 2016, 02:25 PM
Yale's D is worse. Maybe the worst in recent memory.

At least Lehigh's offense is legitimately good. Yale's offense had been a mess.

crusader11
October 1st, 2016, 02:33 PM
Major BLM demonstration at Lafayette today. Some interesting signs on the other side of the field.

TheValleyRaider
October 1st, 2016, 02:37 PM
Cornell 33
Colgate 38
End 3rd

Big Red has turned this game around, looking much better on both sides of the ball. Their last TD came on a tipped pass. Rough quarter for the Raiders, but if they can right the ship and keep moving the ball, they should be able to put this one away. Colgate has the ball, starting a drive

Go Lehigh TU owl
October 1st, 2016, 02:41 PM
1:36 into the second half LU TD...

49-28 13:24 3Q

Go Lehigh TU owl
October 1st, 2016, 03:02 PM
Mayes to TP yet again....

56-28 5:02 3Q

Go Lehigh TU owl
October 1st, 2016, 03:13 PM
Mayes to Casey....just silly passing stats...

63-28 1:03 3Q

Southsider
October 1st, 2016, 03:17 PM
........but the D still stinks!

2ram
October 1st, 2016, 03:19 PM
fordham scores in first OT to go up 41-34.

Bogus Megapardus
October 1st, 2016, 03:22 PM






http://i67.tinypic.com/iw25u8.gif



TheValleyRaider
October 1st, 2016, 03:24 PM
Cornell 39
Colgate 38
Final

I don't want to talk about it

Go Lehigh TU owl
October 1st, 2016, 03:27 PM
Ugly hit by #2 by Lehigh. He was definitely knocked out. Theyre taking him off on a stretcher

Fordham
October 1st, 2016, 03:29 PM
Cornell 39
Colgate 38
Final

I don't want to talk about it

Monmouth 42
Fordham 41
Final

I don't want to talk about it

Southsider
October 1st, 2016, 03:29 PM
The way targeting is being called, it won't be long before football is banned. What is the player supposed to do?

RichH2
October 1st, 2016, 03:30 PM
That is Jones. Why the hell are staryets still in?

Lehigh'98
October 1st, 2016, 03:33 PM
Does Mayes have the passing record for single game?

Go Lehigh TU owl
October 1st, 2016, 03:39 PM
The defenses in the league are so bad!

Go Lehigh TU owl
October 1st, 2016, 03:55 PM
Lehigh 63 Yale 35 Final

They tried their hardest not to score 70 at the end. Gate next week will be wild!

hawkineer
October 1st, 2016, 03:57 PM
Does Mayes have the passing record for single game?
Yes,
He broke a 1992 record of 480 yards against Lafayette.

hawkineer
October 1st, 2016, 04:19 PM
Mayes also set a Yale Bowl [102 years old] record for passing yards [524] and TDs [6].

Go Green
October 1st, 2016, 04:36 PM
I don't want to talk about it

I felt your pain last night.

- - - Updated - - -




I don't want to talk about it

Yours, too.

2ram
October 1st, 2016, 04:44 PM
Cornell 39
Colgate 38
Final

I don't want to talk about it

fordham 41
monmouth 42

i don't want to talk about it either.

Go...gate
October 1st, 2016, 04:46 PM
Cornell 39
Colgate 38
Final

I don't want to talk about it

Very disappointing. As bad a home loss as Colgate has suffered in many years.

2ram
October 1st, 2016, 05:01 PM
the PL OOC record is terribad.

Southsider
October 1st, 2016, 05:18 PM
Lehigh 63 Yale 35 Final

They tried their hardest not to score 70 at the end. Gate next week will be wild!

Unless Yale is on the schedule next year, I would have rubbed 70+ up their nose! Especially after what happened 2 years agoxnodx

crusader11
October 1st, 2016, 05:20 PM
The long season in Easton continues.

Go...gate
October 1st, 2016, 06:46 PM
Needless to say, little chance of a PL at-large bid this year.

crusader11
October 1st, 2016, 06:56 PM
Lehigh probably the most
Impressive team through five weeks. That offense of theirs looks pretty scary. Although, they've put up points against some suspect defenses.

We'll learn more about who is the early favorite after next weekend's games.

carney2
October 1st, 2016, 06:58 PM
At the end of the Holy Cross-Lafayette game the PA announcer stated that Lafayette College would no longer be playing football. All five fans were very surprised. They knew that Lafayette had not been playing football for many years.

or

One and ten, do it again.

van
October 1st, 2016, 07:01 PM
The defenses in the league are so bad!

appears that basic tackling is a lost art

DFW HOYA
October 1st, 2016, 08:03 PM
appears that basic tackling is a lost art

This was mentioned at the Georgetown Harvard game. A knowledgeable fan next to me remarked: "Georgetown tries to tackle. Harvard just hits."

Not so-fun fact: in the second half of Columbia and first half of the Harvard game: Georgetown combined for five first downs.

Pard4Life
October 1st, 2016, 08:29 PM
At the end of the Holy Cross-Lafayette game the PA announcer stated that Lafayette College would no longer be playing football. All five fans were very surprised. They knew that Lafayette had not been playing football for many years.

or

One and ten, do it again.

HA

Fordham and Colgate fans may not want to talk about it, but Lafayette has been 'talking about it' for years... another game slips away... HEY! at least we are scoring this year!

- - - Updated - - -

Lafayette-Lehigh 152 predictions:

Lehigh 70, Lafayette 21

Pard4Life
October 1st, 2016, 08:31 PM
October 1st and I am calling the race: Lehigh 2016 PL Champions...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CF0dG0HWIAEEEXT.jpg

Pard4Life
October 1st, 2016, 08:33 PM
This was mentioned at the Georgetown Harvard game. A knowledgeable fan next to me remarked: "Georgetown tries to tackle. Harvard just hits."

Not so-fun fact: in the second half of Columbia and first half of the Harvard game: Georgetown combined for five first downs.

See? There's the Georgetown we all know, right on cue this point of the season. That said, Georgetown will put up 500 yards on Lafayette and win by 21.

DFW HOYA
October 1st, 2016, 08:41 PM
See? There's the Georgetown we all know, right on cue this point of the season. That said, Georgetown will put up 500 yards on Lafayette and win by 21.

That's a Georgetown team without its starting QB and center after four weeks.

Lehigh'98
October 1st, 2016, 08:54 PM
That's a Georgetown team without its starting QB and center after four weeks.

Just an opportunity for the 'backup' to throw for 500+

carney2
October 1st, 2016, 08:55 PM
That's a Georgetown team without its starting QB and center after four weeks.

And Lafayette just got embarrassed at home by the HC 3rd stringer.

Sader87
October 1st, 2016, 09:26 PM
Dear Christ....seriously Lafayette? Gilmore is the coach that wouldn't die.....

ngineer
October 1st, 2016, 09:55 PM
Lehigh 63 Yale 35 Final

They tried their hardest not to score 70 at the end. Gate next week will be wild!

Just got in from New Haven. We could have score 84. Andy just ran the ball up the middle most of the fourth quarter. We had a first down at the 8 and ran a fourth string back four times up the middle. getting to the one.

The real news is that is two fold. First, Mayes is for real. He has a tremendous arm. Not just strength, but touch. Mobile, buying time, as well as standing and stepping UP into the pocket and surveilling the field. Shaf looks at #1, maybe #2, but then he's off and running. Of course, O Line did a very nice job with protection.

Second, prayers for #2 Quinton Jones, Sr. DB and PR. He came flying in and smacked the Yale receiver and the hit echo'd across the stadium. I have never heard a stadium fall suddenly silent like that. He was knocked out cold. After many minutes was carefully moved to a board and then a gurney for transport to hospital. If it is "only" a severe concussion he will be lucky. There is strong concern about a fractured neck, but tests were being done at the hospital. I will be surprised if he plays the rest of the year.

As for the balance of the game. The points were not all the Defense's fault. Special teams were not so special today. Mish had a lousy day punting and one was short and the Eli ran up 'behind' the downfield gunners and caught it for a 70 yard TD return. Mish also had a horrible shank that put the Eli with a short field. The D did leave up several big plays which resulted in TDs, but they were caused by a player falling down, and a stupid mental error in coverage, not because of being beaten physically or because of scheme. In other words, correctable errors.

I spoke to some Yalies afterward and got their take on both us and Colgate since we have both played them and the consensus was our Offense was more explosive and Colgate's D was more consistent. So the coming week will have a bunch of analysis on what should be a slobberknocker and IMO, next weeks FCS/AGS "Game of the Week". Go nominate and vote.

ngineer
October 1st, 2016, 09:58 PM
appears that basic tackling is a lost art

This is a national problem. Due to fear of injury in practice, no one practices live tackling to the ground anymore. They use these large Round Donut-looking things to drill with. It shows everywhere.

Go Lehigh TU owl
October 1st, 2016, 10:06 PM
Glad you made it home safe! I hit terrible fog on 84 around Newburgh!

This was my second trip to the Yale Bowl, went in 2004, and it was just a good as I remembered. A deteriorating relic yes but still cool. It's just a great place to watch a game. The Jones hit was really nasty. I'm not sure if his family was there but there were two people near me (looked like a father/son) that were very concerned and then eventually walked down once Jones left on the stretcher. The silence in the stadium (minus the moron yelling at the officials about the penalty) was scary.

The defense has to get better. It almost seems like an effort thing. When they're flying around they're legitimately good but too often they let up and just allow the other team to push them around. I don't understand why they can't consistently stop the run. The pass D overall is much better than previous seasons.

TP and Casey are Drawl/Spadola part 2. They're so freaking good. Mayes was excellent. The offense next year could be the best this league has ever seen and I say that with a straight face.

Kudos to #18 for the tackle he made on a kickoff. He got beat and chased down the Yale returner who had a 20 yard head start. #18 has serious wheels. That play made up for the worst punt coverage I ever saw on the Yale TD.

Btw, $20 to park but $12 for a ticket? xeyebrowx I probably shouldn't have donated another $25 for a Yale hat....lol

PAllen
October 1st, 2016, 10:33 PM
See? There's the Georgetown we all know, right on cue this point of the season. That said, Georgetown will put up 500 yards on Lafayette and win by 21.

Hey, at least they can win most of their OOC games.

RichH2
October 2nd, 2016, 09:03 AM
Just got in from New Haven. We could have score 84. Andy just ran the ball up the middle most of the fourth quarter. We had a first down at the 8 and ran a fourth string back four times up the middle. getting to the one.

The real news is that is two fold. First, Mayes is for real. He has a tremendous arm. Not just strength, but touch. Mobile, buying time, as well as standing and stepping UP into the pocket and surveilling the field. Shaf looks at #1, maybe #2, but then he's off and running. Of course, O Line did a very nice job with protection.

Second, prayers for #2 Quinton Jones, Sr. DB and PR. He came flying in and smacked the Yale receiver and the hit echo'd across the stadium. I have never heard a stadium fall suddenly silent like that. He was knocked out cold. After many minutes was carefully moved to a board and then a gurney for transport to hospital. If it is "only" a severe concussion he will be lucky. There is strong concern about a fractured neck, but tests were being done at the hospital. I will be surprised if he plays the rest of the year.

As for the balance of the game. The points were not all the Defense's fault. Special teams were not so special today. Mish had a lousy day punting and one was short and the Eli ran up 'behind' the downfield gunners and caught it for a 70 yard TD return. Mish also had a horrible shank that put the Eli with a short field. The D did leave up several big plays which resulted in TDs, but they were caused by a player falling down, and a stupid mental error in coverage, not because of being beaten physically or because of scheme. In other words, correctable errors.

I spoke to some Yalies afterward and got their take on both us and Colgate since we have both played them and the consensus was our Offense was more explosive and Colgate's D was more consistent. So the coming week will have a bunch of analysis on what should be a slobberknocker and IMO, next weeks FCS/AGS "Game of the Week". Go nominate and vote.

Thanks for the eyewitness.
ST really misses Howard. Very poor coverage.
D overall not bad. Agree they have a tendency to let down occasionally. When they fly around D is tough. Consistency the most important goal.

TheValleyRaider
October 2nd, 2016, 09:41 AM
I'm still pretty ticked about our loss, but really the fault lies with us. The biggest concern I have coming out of the game was our consistent inability to gain 1-2 yards on 3rd/4th down when we needed to. On several occasions a short pickup would have extended a drive, or even run out the clock at the very end. 5 for 16 on 3rd downs is not good enough. The fact we generated 3 turnovers in the 4th quarter, but were still unable to do anything with them, including run out the clock, was very frustrating.

Cornell is much improved from years past. I don't think they'll win the Ivy League, but they certainly shouldn't be ticketed for the bottom of the standings. They have an excellent punter, pinned us inside the 10 on 3 occasions, at least one leading to a safety.

It was 21-0 after the 1st quarter, 31-12 at the half. Heck, it was 38-19 with 5 minutes to go in the 3rd. No one in particular was responsible, this was a team collapse. I would not have been surprised (or even all that disappointed) if you told me we'd be 3-1 entering PL play, but this one hurt. We'll see how they respond heading into Lehigh. Looking ahead to that game, but first instinct is to say "Take the over"

UNHWildcat18
October 2nd, 2016, 10:32 AM
PL one bid this season. I think Colgate will take it.

Lehigh Football Nation
October 2nd, 2016, 11:59 AM
PL one bid this season. I think Colgate will take it.

Still not 100% sure about this. What I will say is, if Monmouth is in the conversation for the final playoff spot, they get in over both Fordham and Lehigh, whom they beat head to head.

ngineer
October 2nd, 2016, 08:56 PM
Still not 100% sure about this. What I will say is, if Monmouth is in the conversation for the final playoff spot, they get in over both Fordham and Lehigh, whom they beat head to head.Not necessarily. If LU only loses a close game to either 'gate or Fordham, and Monmouth stumbles two more times, anything is possible.

Lehigh'98
October 3rd, 2016, 08:22 AM
Not necessarily. If LU only loses a close game to either 'gate or Fordham, and Monmouth stumbles two more times, anything is possible.

If we didn't get in at 10-1, we certainly wouldn't this year at 8-3 especially with the way the other conferences are shaping up. We have no leg to stand on with only PL games left.

ngineer
October 3rd, 2016, 10:47 PM
If we didn't get in at 10-1, we certainly wouldn't this year at 8-3 especially with the way the other conferences are shaping up. We have no leg to stand on with only PL games left.

The problem with the 10-1 team was SOS. IF Lehigh were to lose by one point to either Colgate or Fordham, and 'nova wins all their games and Monmouth has a winning season, a lot of variables can occur with what other teams do.

ngineer
October 3rd, 2016, 10:48 PM
If we didn't get in at 10-1, we certainly wouldn't this year at 8-3 especially with the way the other conferences are shaping up. We have no leg to stand on with only PL games left.

a one point loss to either Fordham or Colgate and 'nova running the regular season table, and Monmouth has a winnng record, a lot of variables at play.

Gangtackle11
October 4th, 2016, 06:54 AM
Monmouth is currently 3-2 with away games at Liberty & Coastal Carolina. 7-4 at best.

PAllen
October 4th, 2016, 07:49 AM
If Monmouth and Villanova win out, and there is a one or two point loss to the PL champ, and there are a lot of losses elsewhere around the country, then Lehigh might, and I stress might, get an at large bid. I don't see more than two of the four prerequisites happening, so the PL is a 1 bid league this year.

Lehigh'98
October 4th, 2016, 08:05 AM
You guys are really grasping here. All that could happen and Penn could beat the Eagles at Franklin Field and we still don't get in as a 8-3 at large.

If they took a 6 win MVFC last year they will just load up the field with big conference teams.

Gangtackle11
October 4th, 2016, 08:06 AM
You guys are really grasping here. All that could happen and Penn could beat the Eagles at Franklin Field and we still don't get in as a 8-3 at large.

If they took a 6 win MVFC last year they will just load up the field with big conference teams.

This ^

Gangtackle11
October 4th, 2016, 08:35 AM
If Monmouth and Villanova win out, and there is a one or two point loss to the PL champ, and there are a lot of losses elsewhere around the country, then Lehigh might, and I stress might, get an at large bid. I don't see more than two of the four prerequisites happening, so the PL is a 1 bid league this year.

I guess your assumption here would be Monmouth & Villanova would be AQ in Big South & CAA allowing for a 8-3 at-large Lehigh to get in? Let me remind you that Monmouth has lost to Charleston Southern in Big South play & would need them to lose 2 conference games to have Monmouth take the crown. GL with that.

I think you better plan on winning the PL if you want a playoff spot. I know you stressed "might" in your post.

van
October 4th, 2016, 11:34 AM
seems a bit early for all this discussion, check back in a month