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FlyYtown
December 17th, 2006, 02:40 PM
In a few days the Youngstown St. fan base will be thanking ESPN and James Madison for helping bring in our new 2007 running back by the name of Andrew Johnson. He is from Pittsburgh, and will be a senior next year after 3 tough years at the U of Miami, FL.

Johnson was leaning toward the Akron Zips prior to Youngstown St. beating James Madison on ESPN2 the Saturday after Easter, as well as being on the ESPN Family of Networks a total of 4 times this year!!

Johnson also says he likes Stambaugh Stadium over the Rubber Bowl and believes a packed house at YSU is better than playing in front of an 10,000 fan Rubber Bowl

THANK YOU JAMES MADISON AND ESPN For bringing this transfer to YSU; as well as 13 other interested transfers!!!!

source: akron zips forum and ysu player

th0m
December 17th, 2006, 03:02 PM
You're welcome!

Let's hope we get something out of it as well ;)

catbob
December 17th, 2006, 06:43 PM
I thought there were no more one-year-wonders allowed?

appmountaineermaniac
December 17th, 2006, 09:01 PM
that doesnt mean he will be a star, so are you saying he hasnt seen the asu ysu game and after seeing that tape he will decide where the better team is and go to asu ha

th0m
December 17th, 2006, 09:31 PM
I think that if he was deciding between Akron and Youngstown, and is from Pittsburgh, regionality played a fairly big part in his decision-making.

JMU_MRD'03-'07
December 17th, 2006, 10:14 PM
Well, I'm glad to see positive stuff about JMU come out of FlyYtown. Glad we could help!

BrevardMountaineer03
December 17th, 2006, 10:22 PM
that doesnt mean he will be a star, so are you saying he hasnt seen the asu ysu game and after seeing that tape he will decide where the better team is and go to asu ha

If it was between this guy and Kevin Richardson, I'd say give me Richardson any day of the week! YSU can have him and good luck to both of them. I like what we got, don't need to improve the RB position, after Richardson we got Moore, he had the worst average of our 3 runners in the championship game, dag gum, 4.8 yards per carry, what will we do!:confused: (Yes I have a bit of sarcasm.)

HLecter
December 17th, 2006, 11:20 PM
In a few days the Youngstown St. fan base will be thanking ESPN and James Madison for helping bring in our new 2007 running back by the name of Andrew Johnson. He is from Pittsburgh, and will be a senior next year after 3 tough years at the U of Miami, FL.

Johnson was leaning toward the Akron Zips prior to Youngstown St. beating James Madison on ESPN2 the Saturday after Easter, as well as being on the ESPN Family of Networks a total of 4 times this year!!

Johnson also says he likes Stambaugh Stadium over the Rubber Bowl and believes a packed house at YSU is better than playing in front of an 10,000 fan Rubber Bowl

THANK YOU JAMES MADISON AND ESPN For bringing this transfer to YSU; as well as 13 other interested transfers!!!!

source: akron zips forum and ysu player

Akron couldn't draw 10,000 playing the Packers, with free admission and free beer.

The Rubber Bowl is a barn

Daved
December 17th, 2006, 11:21 PM
If it was between this guy and Kevin Richardson, I'd say give me Richardson any day of the week! YSU can have him and good luck to both of them. I like what we got, don't need to improve the RB position, after Richardson we got Moore, he had the worst average of our 3 runners in the championship game, dag gum, 4.8 yards per carry, what will we do!:confused: (Yes I have a bit of sarcasm.)Don't blame you there-a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.Hopefully we will get him as we need to replace Mason who averaged over 6yds a carry.There is also no guarantee that even if we get him that he will be a star -like everything else only time will tell.

HLecter
December 17th, 2006, 11:21 PM
that doesnt mean he will be a star, so are you saying he hasnt seen the asu ysu game and after seeing that tape he will decide where the better team is and go to asu ha

Hey give us a break,,,we NEED him, App certainly DOES NOT.;)

HLecter
December 17th, 2006, 11:25 PM
BTW to my JMU "friends"

You guys are better than UMASS. I'm talking teams here.

th0m
December 17th, 2006, 11:36 PM
Hahah, thanks, I guess? How do you figure though? UMass did beat Montana in Missoula...

Wouldn't really have mattered either way though as long as we wouldn't have been better than ASU! (but then again, paybacks usually are a bitch ;))

See you guys on the 19th for basketball!

B&G
December 17th, 2006, 11:50 PM
In a few days the Youngstown St. fan base will be thanking ESPN and James Madison for helping bring in our new 2007 running back by the name of Andrew Johnson. He is from Pittsburgh, and will be a senior next year after 3 tough years at the U of Miami, FL.

Johnson was leaning toward the Akron Zips prior to Youngstown St. beating James Madison on ESPN2 the Saturday after Easter, as well as being on the ESPN Family of Networks a total of 4 times this year!!

Johnson also says he likes Stambaugh Stadium over the Rubber Bowl and believes a packed house at YSU is better than playing in front of an 10,000 fan Rubber Bowl

THANK YOU JAMES MADISON AND ESPN For bringing this transfer to YSU; as well as 13 other interested transfers!!!!

source: akron zips forum and ysu player

Great, if you listen closely you can almost hear Rod Gilmore in the distance singing Johnson's praises as Trevor Matich blabs about a +1 system.

HLecter
December 17th, 2006, 11:56 PM
Great, if you listen closely you can almost hear Rod Gilmore in the distance singing Johnson's praises as Trevor Matich blabs about a +1 system.

GOOD ONE THERE:bow:

That guy is an idiot.

HLecter
December 18th, 2006, 12:01 AM
Hahah, thanks, I guess? How do you figure though? UMass did beat Montana in Missoula...

Wouldn't really have mattered either way though as long as we wouldn't have been better than ASU! (but then again, paybacks usually are a bitch ;))

See you guys on the 19th for basketball!

I saw you guys IN PERSON in Y-town,watched the replay 3 times, and I watched UMASS/Montana 4 times and UMASS/ASU 5 times.

Montana losing to UMASS not that big a deal, we have done it before up there when they were a 1 seed I believe--They are a GORILLA in a 1 - team conference. No disrespect to other conf. members there--just the truth.

You guys are better than UMASS in my opinion. I can break it down by Units and individuals but I don't need to.

If a UMASS fan takes exception, then I will.

Mort
December 18th, 2006, 05:40 AM
In a few days the Youngstown St. fan base will be thanking ESPN and James Madison for helping bring in our new 2007 running back by the name of Andrew Johnson. He is from Pittsburgh, and will be a senior next year after 3 tough years at the U of Miami, FL.

Johnson was leaning toward the Akron Zips prior to Youngstown St. beating James Madison on ESPN2 the Saturday after Easter, as well as being on the ESPN Family of Networks a total of 4 times this year!!

Johnson also says he likes Stambaugh Stadium over the Rubber Bowl and believes a packed house at YSU is better than playing in front of an 10,000 fan Rubber Bowl

THANK YOU JAMES MADISON AND ESPN For bringing this transfer to YSU; as well as 13 other interested transfers!!!!

source: akron zips forum and ysu player

Just wondering - how many Saturday's after Easter was that? :)

NoSpinZone
December 18th, 2006, 09:24 AM
Akron couldn't draw 10,000 playing the Packers, with free admission and free beer.

The Rubber Bowl is a barn

seemed pretty nice to me
http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/north_america/united_states/ohio/akron_rubber.shtml
2006 Akron 16,132 attendance

BillLuc1982
December 18th, 2006, 09:30 AM
Attendance is also represented by season ticket holders. Next season if we get good recruiting/transfers, I hope to see the attendance figures we got in 2000 and 2001.

HLecter
December 18th, 2006, 12:19 PM
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a187/StillJonesing/youngstown_stambaugh.jpg
2006 15,159 attendance

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a187/StillJonesing/akron_rubber.jpg
2006 16,132 attendance

If that pic is to show how nice the Rubber Bowl is,,well I guess you have to be there it is a dump.

Hopefully Akron gets a new stadium that is closer than 5 miles from campus

GoGuins
December 18th, 2006, 12:57 PM
If that pic is to show how nice the Rubber Bowl is,,well I guess you have to be there it is a dump.

Hopefully Akron gets a new stadium that is closer than 5 miles from campus

I concur that the Rubber Bowl is a dump, been there several times for college and high school games. It doesn't look bad in that pic but it is run down, still has wooden benches, cracked concrete everywhere, etc. It's almost as bad as Michigan Stadium:D

Corporations buy most of those tickets and you're lucky to see more than 10k at a game.

I know a couple years back in the late 90's early 200's, YSU averaged more than Akron & Kent State combined for a season

PantherRob82
December 18th, 2006, 01:14 PM
the Rubber Bowl looks nice, but pictures can play tricks. I'll take your word for it. Hopefully the transfer works out for you.

GoGuins
December 18th, 2006, 01:46 PM
the Rubber Bowl looks nice, but pictures can play tricks. I'll take your word for it. Hopefully the transfer works out for you.

No word on this transfer yet. Replacing Mason will be tough.

JMU_MRD'03-'07
December 18th, 2006, 02:35 PM
I saw you guys IN PERSON in Y-town,watched the replay 3 times, and I watched UMASS/Montana 4 times and UMASS/ASU 5 times.

Montana losing to UMASS not that big a deal, we have done it before up there when they were a 1 seed I believe--They are a GORILLA in a 1 - team conference. No disrespect to other conf. members there--just the truth.

You guys are better than UMASS in my opinion. I can break it down by Units and individuals but I don't need to.

If a UMASS fan takes exception, then I will.

We sure need a pass defense though... I don't know what was up that night, but we've stopped Santos and Schaefer and other prolific passers this season, but damn, where was it!!

FlyYtown
December 18th, 2006, 08:24 PM
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a187/StillJonesing/youngstown_stambaugh.jpg
2006 15,159 attendance

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a187/StillJonesing/akron_rubber.jpg
2006 16,132 attendance

Don't be fooled man. The Rubber Bowl is really bad, and their fans know it. I've even heard cases that people have gotten splinters sitting in the seats there..... Scary ain't it!

Stambaugh is so much nicer than the Rubber Bowl, and a billion times nicer than Kent's Dix Stadium.....

I'd put Montana ahead of all the MAC Stadiums, its that nice.
YSU's compares with Miami, OH's Yager Stadium:

http://www.hollywoodsportsbook.com/ncaaarenas/images/Mid%20America/Fred-Yager-Stadium-Oxford,-.jpg
to
http://www.ysupenguins.net/facilities/stadium1.jpg

NoSpinZone
December 18th, 2006, 11:07 PM
The Glass Bowl looks very nice to me.

th0m
December 19th, 2006, 08:56 AM
All of those pics are outdated though. Yager has a larger stand on the other side now, and of course you're well aware that Stambaugh has quite a nicer pressbox facility ;)

http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/north_america/united_states/ohio/oxford_fred_yager.jpg

Paladin1aa
December 19th, 2006, 11:03 AM
Just saw this. The Rubber Bowl is a DUMP !!! 30k seating on cracked ,crumbling concrete with MAYBE 5-6K in attendance(actual). Gone to play-offs games there and the OHSAA has been buried by complaints. Nothing will be done because Akron rents it out so cheap .

Kent St isn't much better, but it is better. The Ice Castle is one the nicest in the nation.

GoGuins
December 19th, 2006, 11:30 AM
Just saw this. The Rubber Bowl is a DUMP !!! 30k seating on cracked ,crumbling concrete with MAYBE 5-6K in attendance(actual). Gone to play-offs games there and the OHSAA has been buried by complaints. Nothing will be done because Akron rents it out so cheap .

Kent St isn't much better, but it is better. The Ice Castle is one the nicest in the nation.

Like I said earlier Paly, RB is almost as bad as Michigan Stadium:D But, 300 million is being spent on renovating Michigan in 2008 where the Rubber Bowl will continue to get worse

jmuroller
December 19th, 2006, 12:01 PM
I thought that starting next year you can't have anymore transfers that only have 1 year left?

jmuroller
December 19th, 2006, 10:02 PM
Anyone?

FlyYtown
December 19th, 2006, 10:41 PM
Akron is trying to build a new stadium---thank God. Luckily they are doing the smart thing and building according to attendance! Only 23,000 seats for a much needed stadium for the Zips!

http://img446.imageshack.us/img446/7971/akrongl8.jpg

Peems
December 19th, 2006, 11:01 PM
I thought that starting next year you can't have anymore transfers that only have 1 year left?

im with jmuroller and catbob on this one. how can your "transfer" be playing?

grayghost06
December 20th, 2006, 01:37 AM
Akron is trying to build a new stadium---thank God. Luckily they are doing the smart thing and building according to attendance! Only 23,000 seats for a much needed stadium for the Zips!

http://img446.imageshack.us/img446/7971/akrongl8.jpg
...So let me get this straight....in order to "move" to the Bowl Div. ( IA), a school must have a 30,000 stadium. Yet Akron wants to do away with their 30,000+ stadium and build a smaller stadium. This doesn't seem consistent with the spirit of the stadium size requirement. And it all but kills Akron's chanced of playing any decent out of conference teams at home ever. No BCS or similar team is ever going to play in a 23,000 stadium, no matter how nice it is.

HLecter
December 20th, 2006, 03:24 AM
I was glad to see the proposed location between vine, spicer and exchange, bulldoze all those crack houses down.

I wonder if the slum landlords will get top dollar for those properties? Probably now that we have Dem Leadership in the state--Ooops sorry, wrong place for politics.

And how about the people that will be displaced, mostly renters, I bet they will be put up at the Sheraton Suites in Cuyahoga Falls if Sherrod Brown (oops there I go again) has anything to say about it.

I heard somewhere that the Attendance requirement will be reduced by the number of students enrolled or something like that?? So 23,000 would be good.

NoSpinZone
December 20th, 2006, 08:57 AM
...So let me get this straight....in order to "move" to the Bowl Div. ( IA), a school must have a 30,000 stadium. Yet Akron wants to do away with their 30,000+ stadium and build a smaller stadium. This doesn't seem consistent with the spirit of the stadium size requirement. And it all but kills Akron's chanced of playing any decent out of conference teams at home ever. No BCS or similar team is ever going to play in a 23,000 stadium, no matter how nice it is.

I watched Pitt lose to Ohio last year in a 22k seat stadium.

FlyYtown
December 20th, 2006, 03:48 PM
...So let me get this straight....in order to "move" to the Bowl Div. ( IA), a school must have a 30,000 stadium. Yet Akron wants to do away with their 30,000+ stadium and build a smaller stadium. This doesn't seem consistent with the spirit of the stadium size requirement. And it all but kills Akron's chanced of playing any decent out of conference teams at home ever. No BCS or similar team is ever going to play in a 23,000 stadium, no matter how nice it is.

My friend, that rule does not exist, although it likes to spread around the I-AA Nation as it does exist. All that matters is averaging 15,000 a year.. Period... if you do that then you are fine.

Ball State in Michigan's stadium is Smaller than YSU Stambaugh!
http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/north_america/united_states/indiana/muncie_ball_state.jpg

jmuroller
December 20th, 2006, 07:01 PM
The 30k rule is that for the first 3 years the stadium must be at least 30k. Then after that you just must maintain the 15k attendance barrier. (or at least they say so). Look at Idaho St and how they played at Wash St for 3 years when they went 1A then moved back to their little dome.

FlyYtown
December 20th, 2006, 10:06 PM
NCAA RULES ON THIS... AGAIN LET'S PUT THIS TO REST.

Prior to 2004, NCAA legislation required an institution that played their home games in a stadium that contained a minimum of 30,000 permanent seats to average more than 17,000 in paid attendance per home game for one year in the immediate past four year period. An institution that played its games in a stadium that contained less than 30,000 permanent seats was required to average 17,000 in paid attendance for every home game for each of the preceding four years.

Beginning August 1, 2004, institutions were required to show the necessary degree of public support by averaging 15,000 in actual attendance (as opposed to paid attendance) each year. There was philosophical disagreement among Division I-A institutions as to whether or not public support measured by attendance at home football games is an appropriate criteria for determining an institution’s Division I-A status. Another concern was that linking Division I-A membership status to actual attendance was linking an important institutional identity to something outside the control of the institution.

CincyPenguin
December 20th, 2006, 10:50 PM
Cool, except Ball State is in Muncie, Indiana. But damn, that is a small stadium.

mcveyrl
December 21st, 2006, 08:47 AM
NCAA RULES ON THIS... AGAIN LET'S PUT THIS TO REST.

Prior to 2004, NCAA legislation required an institution that played their home games in a stadium that contained a minimum of 30,000 permanent seats to average more than 17,000 in paid attendance per home game for one year in the immediate past four year period. An institution that played its games in a stadium that contained less than 30,000 permanent seats was required to average 17,000 in paid attendance for every home game for each of the preceding four years.

Beginning August 1, 2004, institutions were required to show the necessary degree of public support by averaging 15,000 in actual attendance (as opposed to paid attendance) each year. There was philosophical disagreement among Division I-A institutions as to whether or not public support measured by attendance at home football games is an appropriate criteria for determining an institutionís Division I-A status. Another concern was that linking Division I-A membership status to actual attendance was linking an important institutional identity to something outside the control of the institution.

That's what I was referring to above. Thanks for the direct quote.

FlyYtown
December 21st, 2006, 10:06 AM
That's what I was referring to above. Thanks for the direct quote.

PRIOR TO 2004... that rule about 30,000 seat stadium does not exist anymore!

mcveyrl
December 21st, 2006, 10:09 AM
PRIOR TO 2004... that rule about 30,000 seat stadium does not exist anymore!


Right. That's what I had heard. It was nice to get confirmation (I was just too lazy to look it upxlolx xlolx )

My post indicated that they needed to average 15K in attendance.

jmuroller
December 21st, 2006, 01:35 PM
Back to this whole transfer subject. Someone please tell me if he can play or not. I thought the new rule was that you can't transfer unless you have at least 2 years left?

FlyYtown
December 21st, 2006, 01:41 PM
Back to this whole transfer subject. Someone please tell me if he can play or not. I thought the new rule was that you can't transfer unless you have at least 2 years left?

You can figure this one out my friend.... kick your jmu education into play. Would this player transfer to YSU if he could not play???? Of course not.

He is coming and he is PLAYING!

BDK@YSU
December 21st, 2006, 02:42 PM
Back to this whole transfer subject. Someone please tell me if he can play or not. I thought the new rule was that you can't transfer unless you have at least 2 years left?

He never used his redshirt year.

NoSpinZone
December 21st, 2006, 02:43 PM
FAU and FIU have never been 30k and they moved up.