UNI at South Dakota State Game Day Thread

[PantherRob82]

It's about time to kick off in Brookings. Not sure what to expect from either team today.

Lots of hobos for sure.

[PantherRob82]

Loving the SDSU uniforms and helmets today

[PantherRob82]

UNI offense looks awful.

[PantherRob82]

UNI offense converts a 3rd down and driving. At their own 35.

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Bailey keeps it into SDSU territory.

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UNI at the Jacks 30

[PantherRob82]

Bailey sacked at the 45.

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UNI punts. SDSU ball on their own 18

[UNIFanSince1983]

That grass makes this field look like a high school field. Hopefully in the redoing of CAS they are replacing that with some turf.

[IBleedYellow]

That grass makes this field look like a high school field. Hopefully in the redoing of CAS they are replacing that with some turf.

Yep, this is the last year of the last natural grass field in the Valley.

[Thumper 76]

Defensive struggle so far

[PantherRob82]

I'm not impressed with either team so far.

[Kemo]

That two QB system is working well so far. We almost have 40 yards of offense.

[Kemo]

Also, between the 2 teams, I believe only 1 pass thrown ahead of the line of scrimmage has been completed

[PantherRob82]

Also, between the 2 teams, I believe only 1 pass thrown ahead of the line of scrimmage has been completed

Who comes out for the Jacks next possesion?

[IBleedYellow]

Who comes out for the Jacks next possesion?

They should switch every down. It'd make it look awesome, right?

[PantherRob82]

Maybe Bailey can finish with -100 rushing yards.

[IBleedYellow]

Maybe Bailey can finish with -100 rushing yards.

UNI done with the read option?

[Thumper 76]

That two QB system is working well so far. We almost have 40 yards of offense.

No joke huh. Barf. Sounds like the field is getting pretty muddy

[PantherRob82]

UNI done with the read option?

No, but he has been sacked twice for at least a loss of 30 yards.

[IBleedYellow]

No, but he has been sacked twice for at least a loss of 30 yards.

Sounds like he was running the wrong way.

[Thumper 76]

Sounds like he was running the wrong way.

Well he just busted off a 41 yd run

[IBleedYellow]

Well he just busted off a 41 yd run


That sounds super familiar.

[PantherRob82]

Well he just busted off a 41 yd run

and came up sore. SDSU got lucky on that tackle. Otherwise he was gone.

[PantherRob82]

UNI DB Hall with the big catch.

Shouldn't that have been targeting? He launched himself with the crown of his helmet to the back of his head.

[UNIFanSince1983]

Hall is so good. Need to see him on offense more now that he has that cast off.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Score?

[UNIFanSince1983]

UNI DB Hall with the big catch.

Shouldn't that have been targeting? He launched himself with the crown of his helmet to the back of his head.

Looked like a targeting to me, but I am a UNI fan...

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Still 0-0 UNI going for it on 4th and 1 in on about the 10.

[PantherRob82]

They blew that dead way too quick.

[IBleedYellow]

Switched to this game.

SDSU, I don't like your jerseys. :(

[UNIFanSince1983]

3-0 UNI with 2:43 left in the half.

[IBleedYellow]

UNI on the board. Farley must really not trust that kicker.

[Kemo]

This has been a fugly game.

[PantherRob82]

I would have never guessed this low of a score at the half.

[UNIFanSince1983]

I would have guessed that UNI would only have 3 ;)

[Thumper 76]

God this game is awful

[UNIFanSince1983]

This grass is a disgrace to football...

[centennial]

This grass is a disgrace to football...

Agree

[FargoBison]

This grass is a disgrace to football...

Welcome to Brookings....Thank God the pasture will be retired after this year.

[IBleedYellow]

WOW!

It went from TD, to INT to incomplete in a matter of milliseconds.

[PantherRob82]

Wow. Fountain should have had that TD.

[UNIFanSince1983]

This grass is a disgrace to football...

Also the football being played on the grass is a disgrace...

[PantherRob82]

Why in the %$^$ did we try a 56 yard FG on this grass with this kicker?

[centennial]

Wow. Fountain should have had that TD.

56 yard field goal?

[IBleedYellow]

So, is the grass or the defenses causing this to be a defensive struggle?

[FargoBison]

56 yard field goal?

Yeah...I wonder what kind of grass Farely was smoking to attempt that....

[UNIFanSince1983]

Yeah...I wonder what kind of grass Farely was smoking to attempt that....

Whatever it is he has been on it all season. Wonder if he bought it from Coprich...

[centennial]

Whatever it is he has been on it all season. Wonder if he bought it from Coprich...
Don't tell everyone.

[centennial]

BTW WIU looks like the real deal. ISU playing dirty.

[PantherRob82]

Don't tell everyone.

He might get another swat on the hand with a feather.

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BTW WIU looks like the real deal. ISU playing dirty.

Playing dirty or stupid?

[clenz]

UNI DB Hall with the big catch.

Shouldn't that have been targeting? He launched himself with the crown of his helmet to the back of his head.
Absolutely was targeting

[clenz]

UNI on the board. Farley must really not trust that kicker.
Never trust anything Farley thinks

[centennial]

He might get another swat on the hand with a feather.

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Playing dirty or stupid?
Both.

[clenz]

This grass is a disgrace to football...
A billion times this. The number of players falling simply because of the field is a joke

[clenz]

Wow. Fountain should have had that TD.
Sounds like about 90% of uni completions this year

[clenz]

Why in the %$^$ did we try a 56 yard FG on this grass with this kicker?
Farley that's why.

[centennial]

Never trust anything Farley thinks
Fire Farley, save season?

[clenz]

Play Dunne

And I'm out until much later.

God bless drive by posting

[IBleedYellow]

Fire Farley, save season?

They need to keep Farley.

Here's my question, will UNI go after Klieman or Bohl if they get rid of Farley? Who would they go for for a HC?

[clenz]

They need to keep Farley.

Here's my question, will UNI go after Klieman or Bohl if they get rid of Farley? Who would they go for for a HC?
I said I was out but someone remind me to come back to this later when I'm at a computer and care to post

[clenz]

Now I'm out

[centennial]

They need to keep Farley.

Here's my question, will UNI go after Klieman or Bohl if they get rid of Farley? Who would they go for for a HC?
Coach Klieman could look at FBS as early as next year he isn't going to UNI. Bohl maybe, but he may take a DC P5 or NFL job if Wyoming fire him.

[PantherRob82]

They need to keep Farley.

Here's my question, will UNI go after Klieman or Bohl if they get rid of Farley? Who would they go for for a HC?

Probably Terry Allen. xlolx

[UNIFanSince1983]

Sadly Farley isn't going anywhere...

[IBleedYellow]

Sadly Farley isn't going anywhere...

Pretty sure you guys have him in a nice big contract, no?

[centennial]

Probably Terry Allen. xlolx
Keep your DC, fire Farley and bring in a new coach. There are some really good D2 coaches, or maybe a P5 coordinator.

[UNIFanSince1983]

I definitely wouldn't mind finding a good D2 coach. Just like what WIU did.

[IBleedYellow]

UND has a really good D2 coach. xthumbsupx

[centennial]

I definitely wouldn't mind finding a good D2 coach. Just like what WIU did.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Dorrel

[IBleedYellow]

Back to the defensive struggle.

[centennial]

Back to the defensive struggle.
Ugly. Take out Bailey.

[IBleedYellow]

Wieneki finally comes to life!!!

[UNIFanSince1983]

The Jacks have found some offensive life.

[UNIFanSince1983]

TD Jacks

[dewey]

Big read option keeper by Christian. False start on SDSU. 1st and goal at the 8. 2 yard gain by SDSU. Touchdown Jacks!

7-3 SDSU leads 822 to go in the 3rd quarter.

Is it possible both teams lose:-)

Dewey

[centennial]

The Jacks have found some offensive life.
TD! 7-3

[Thumper 76]

21532

[Kemo]

I'm liking the halftime adjustment so far by the offense. Stress the perimeter and hopefully it will soften the middle and down field.

[centennial]

That was close. UNI flirting with danger.

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That was close. UNI flirting with danger.
Take Bailey out. Terrible

[IBleedYellow]

Wait, so they call the penalty before they warn it? UNI with a lucky break.

I thought they always warn first.

[Thumper 76]

And UNI responds jfc

[Kemo]

Wow. That had to be a blown assignment.

[UNIFanSince1983]

Wait, so they call the penalty before they warn it? UNI with a lucky break.

I thought they always warn first.

There was a warning earlier, but it was on UNI I am pretty sure.

[IBleedYellow]

There was a warning earlier, but it was on UNI I am pretty sure.

Then it shouldn't be a penalty on SDSU....the warning was on UNI. Otherwise, what's the point of saying "SIDELINE WARNING TO UNI!"?

[dewey]

Touchdown Bailey and Northern Iowa. Boy is Bailey fast and a good runner.

10-7 Northern Iowa leads SDSU 604 to go in the 3rd quarter. SDSU starts at about the SDSU 30.

Dewey

[centennial]

Wow. That had to be a blown assignment.
Are your players getting coaching from NDSU?

[UNIFanSince1983]

Then it shouldn't be a penalty on SDSU....the warning was on UNI. Otherwise, what's the point of saying "SIDELINE WARNING TO UNI!"?

Yeah I have no idea...

I wasn't saying it was right I was just saying there was one. I was just as confused as you were.

[Thumper 76]

Then it shouldn't be a penalty on SDSU....the warning was on UNI. Otherwise, what's the point of saying "SIDELINE WARNING TO UNI!"?

Radio said it was because a guy must have made contact with the ref, which is an auto penalty

[PantherRob82]

Keep your DC, fire Farley and bring in a new coach. There are some really good D2 coaches, or maybe a P5 coordinator.

Farley is our DC. ;)

[PantherRob82]

Then it shouldn't be a penalty on SDSU....the warning was on UNI. Otherwise, what's the point of saying "SIDELINE WARNING TO UNI!"?

Depends on what the issue is. Severity can skip the warning.

[IBleedYellow]

Radio said it was because a guy must have made contact with the ref, which is an auto penalty

Ahhh, there it is. He touched him.

http://weknowmemes.com/generator/uploads/generated/g1337181707710232866.jpg

[UNIFanSince1983]

Radio said it was because a guy must have made contact with the ref, which is an auto penalty

Yeah that actually happened to Northwestern against Nebraska earlier today.

[Thumper 76]

Ahhh, there it is. He touched him.

http://weknowmemes.com/generator/uploads/generated/g1337181707710232866.jpg

They had to have the ref who got touched show them where on a doll.

[IBleedYellow]

Now that's a punt......

[RabidRabbit]

Jacks punter is doing great, as well as cover team at pinning Cats inside 10 for 3rd or 4th time this game. End of 3, Panthers 10, Jacks 7. 16000+ attendance for HoboDay.

[Thumper 76]

Jacks keep getting lucky on these fumbles

[Thumper 76]

I have a terrible feeling right now about this drive upcoming.

[IBleedYellow]

Holy crap...I figured SDSU was finally going to lose a fumble this year.

Then it didn't happen.

[UNIFanSince1983]

I have a terrible feeling right now about this drive upcoming.

I do too...

[PantherRob82]

Holy crap...I figured SDSU was finally going to lose a fumble this year.

Then it didn't happen.

Sure was close.

[Thumper 76]

I do too...

Well I sure hope you are right and I'm wrong xlolx

[IBleedYellow]

How was that "Tough play of the game" not targeting?

[UNIFanSince1983]

How was that "Tough play of the game" not targeting?

We wondered that when the play happened...

[UNIFanSince1983]

Short...

[PantherRob82]

Apparently we're never going to kick a FG again since Farley keeps messing with his confidence.

[BisonFan02]

Wow.......

[IBleedYellow]

What's happening?

I'm still on the flashback now :(

[UNIFanSince1983]

And this is where the Jacks win the game...

[IBleedYellow]

Short. That has to be short.

[BisonFan02]

Farley is outdoing himself here....

[Kemo]

That was probably a bad spot but I'll take it. It would have been close either way.

[IBleedYellow]

Huge stand by the Jackrabbits. Farley really must not trust his kicker...at all.

[Thumper 76]

UNI starts to go for a fg, calls a TO, goes for it, and gets stuffed!

[IBleedYellow]

That was probably a bad spot but I'll take it. It would have been close either way.

His helmet didn't even reach the line to gain...how did the football possibly get there?

[Kemo]

His helmet didn't even reach the line to gain...how did the football possibly get there?

I thought the officials brought it back a half yard then were it actually was. Even then, I'm not sure it would have been a first down, but at least a measurement would have been warranted.

[UNIFanSince1983]

This field is like a skating rink.

Both teams suffering because of it.

[UNIFanSince1983]

That ball was not even close to being catchable...

[BisonFan02]

Woaf.......haha

[Thumper 76]

Wow

[BisonFan02]

Horrendous PI call......IMHO

[PantherRob82]

Terrible flag

[BisonFan02]

Now is Farley losing his **** and getting a penalty?

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Yikes.........Farley better settle down.

[IBleedYellow]

Lawl.

How's that a PI? Could he even catch the ball?

[PantherRob82]

Now is Farley losing his **** and getting a penalty?

Seems worth it. xrolleyesx

[centennial]

Now is Farley losing his **** and getting a penalty?
He losses his **** a lot.

[Thumper 76]

Wow twice

[dewey]

HUGE pass interference penalty on UNI. 3rd and 27 and they get bailed out on the PI call.

Dewey

[IBleedYellow]

Oh man Farley...that's not a good way to lose.

[Professor Chaos]

Wow, that's a bad PI call on UNI. Refs letting the crowd throw the flags it seems.

[IBleedYellow]

Wow, that's a bad PI call on UNI. Refs letting the crowd throw the flags it seems.

We clearly need to get those refs in Fargo. xcoffeex

[dewey]

It amazes me how good Northern Iowa ' s defense year in and year out but how their offense is less than stellar.

1st down SDSU. Inside the UNI 40. 403 to go.

Dewey

[IBleedYellow]

Rabbits are getting close...knocking on the door and UNI can't stop them.

[dewey]

Big catch by Wieneke. 1st and 10 at the UNI 20. 330 or so to go in the game.

Dewey

[PantherRob82]

At least when we lose we won't be in sole possession of last place. Missouri State is getting stomped.

[IBleedYellow]

It would really help NDSU if UNI would win this game...


So...can ya?

[centennial]

Bad false start. Could've lost the game.

[Professor Chaos]

Who would've thunk that FG Farley didn't try to kick would come back to bite him xrolleyesx

EDIT: Never mind :). I guess Stig is taking notes from him.

[UNIFanSince1983]

HUGE PLAY!!

[Thumper 76]

At least when we lose we won't be in sole possession of last place. Missouri State is getting stomped.

Nope we don't want to win

[BisonFan02]

WTF was that play call SDSU???????

[UNIFanSince1983]

UNI holds them on 4th and 1!

[No_Skill]

Wow. Not sure about that call.

[PantherRob82]

Why did they not go for the call? Did they use phone a friend and ask Farley what to do?

[centennial]

Game over SDSU.

[IBleedYellow]

Thank you.

[PantherRob82]

We'll blow it somehow. Give us a chance.

[UNIFanSince1983]

We can still lose it though...

[Kemo]

We have not won the battle up the middle all game. Why would we call that?!

[centennial]

We can still lose it though...
How? I don't think it's possible.

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We have not won the battle up the middle all game. Why would we call that?!
This.

[UNIFanSince1983]

Game over now!

Ugly win is still a win!

[Professor Chaos]

How? I don't think it's possible.

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This.
Two timeouts still for SDSU.

[centennial]

Two timeouts still for SDSU.
You are behind. They got another first down. Game over.

[Thumper 76]

We have not won the battle up the middle all game. Why would we call that?!

Because when the game is on the line we **** our brains out of our heads.

[PantherRob82]

Where in the hell do you rank either team?

[Kemo]

Because when the game is on the line we **** our brains out of our heads.

I mean, it's not even second guessing. I blurted out "we just lost the game" when they lined up in that formation.

[centennial]

Where in the hell do you rank either team?
UNI around 15, SDSU around 10

[UNIFanSince1983]

Realistically where do you rank anyone?

I mean I think ISUr should be #1 but other than that who really knows??

[Thumper 76]

****ing UNI and ****ing ndsu. We always struggle and don't seem to play like ourselves against them ever. Goddamnit

[NDSU Fan]

can't believe UNI won. Congrats

[PantherRob82]

can't believe UNI won. Congrats

Congrats to SDSU for looking like they did against the Bison.

[centennial]

Congrats to SDSU for looking like they did against the Bison.
That stupid call on 4 and 1 lost them the game. If you are going to overload make sure that you don't get bit from behind.

[RabidRabbit]

Exactly the type of game expected from these two teams. Both teams played to lose in offensive play selection. Jacks were just more successful. Congrats to uni. Your path to playoffs just passed most important test. Don't screw up the remaining opportunities.

[mmiller_34]

we couldn't gain a yard. Twice. We didn't deserve to win.

I'm not mad. It does suck. This is our reality. I just want to get into the playoffs, lay the smack down on some crappy OOC team then lose to the Bison in the Fargodome. I have no other expectations.

[PantherRob82]

Exactly the type of game expected from these two teams. Both teams played to lose in offensive play selection. Jacks were just more successful. Congrats to uni. Your path to playoffs just passed most important test. Don't screw up the remaining opportunities.

You know we will...

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we couldn't gain a yard. Twice. We didn't deserve to win.

I'm not mad. It does suck. This is our reality. I just want to get into the playoffs, lay the smack down on some crappy OOC team then lose to the Bison in the Fargodome. I have no other expectations.

Bison might not be there. First half for them today was ugly. They have some work to do.

[mmiller_34]

our stadium will be cool tho

[centennial]

You know we will...

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Bison might not be there. First half for them today was ugly. They have some work to do.
We have 4 games left- SIU, WIU, YSU, MoSt.
MSt gets us to 6. We will need 1 out of 3 for 7 wins, 2 out 3 for 8, 3 out of 3 for being ranked.
WIU, YSU- Could be close
SIU- Should win
MoSt- They are a joke

[JayJ79]

Why in the %$^$ did we try a 56 yard FG on this grass with this kicker?

don't really gain anything with a punt in that situation.

[PantherRob82]

don't really gain anything with a punt in that situation.

14-39 yards of field position. He hasn't been able to make normal kicks this season. Why not just got for it. Better odds.

[JayJ79]

odd how people treated Schmadeke as a god last season, now treat him as a goat.
the life of a kicker, I suppose. glad I'm not one.

Neither team played very well today. Nor did the officials, nor the field
UNI's defense once again made the difference, other than that boneheaded PI (yes, it was uncatchable, but even more reason why that contact makes zero sense).

Panthers might be able to eek out wins the rest of the way out, but their lack of offense (other than Bailey's legs) will doom them if they make the playoffs (or they'll drop another game and get knocked out)

[centennial]

odd how people treated Schmadeke as a god last season, now treat him as a goat.
the life of a kicker, I suppose. glad I'm not one.

Neither team played very well today. Nor did the officials, nor the field
UNI's defense once again made the difference, other than that boneheaded PI (yes, it was uncatchable, but even more reason why that contact makes zero sense).

Panthers might be able to eek out wins the rest of the way out, but their lack of offense (other than Bailey's legs) will doom them if they make the playoffs (or they'll drop another game and get knocked out)
UNI is just playing spoiled sport. They will probably drop another but in the way they will knock out other teams.

[Thumper 76]

Not sure why but I feel pretty good about the rest of season even with this terrible showing. I think both teams can agree both teams played poorly on offense. But as a SDSU fan the two teams we always seem to struggle with are UNI and NDSU. We do pretty well against the rest of the league, we just never look like ourselves against those two teams, mainly due to how they play IMO. I think the Jacks still have a great chance at a 8-9 win season. I think a seed is out of the question which really sucks cause that means another trip to fargo (barf) but maybe we get lucky with how many upsets have been happening recently.

[centennial]

Not sure why but I feel pretty good about the rest of season even with this terrible showing. I think both teams can agree both teams played poorly on offense. But as a SDSU fan the two teams we always seem to struggle with are UNI and NDSU. We do pretty well against the rest of the league, we just never look like ourselves against those two teams, mainly due to how they play IMO. I think the Jacks still have a great chance at a 8-9 win season. I think a seed is out of the question which really sucks cause that means another trip to fargo (barf) but maybe we get lucky with how many upsets have been happening recently.
Please take out Illinois State for us.

[mmiller_34]

Worst part of the loss:

its now too late to go pick up some Caseys breakfast pizza.

[clenz]

Worst part of the loss:

its now too late to go pick up some Caseys breakfast pizza.
Call and get it carry out...

[RabidRabbit]

Jacks have 4 games left. Mo St (should be a solid win), USD @ Dome (that should be a win, but rivalry), then ISU-R, and WIU. If Jacks can go 4-0, good chance of getting seed. 3-1, likely in first round. 2-2, and 4-4 in MVFC, depends on rest of field, but FBS (P5 win), and if SUU makes it then looking at the losses to other teams going to play-offs. Hopefully can get a win vs both WIU and ISU-R.

[PantherRob82]

odd how people treated Schmadeke as a god last season, now treat him as a goat.
the life of a kicker, I suppose. glad I'm not one.

Could be that he made 27 of 29 last year and is 6 for 10 so far this season.

[mmiller_34]

7 MVFC teams in playoffs

[JayJ79]

I was impressed by the commentary on the SDSU tv broadcast.
yes, it was a hometown broadcast, but they seemed fairly knowledgable on the UNI players, and were complimentary on good plays by the opponents. A few mispronounciations, but they even corrected themselves to the local pronounciation of a small town name (Tripoli) of one of the key Panther players.

(I listened to the radio broadcast on Saturday, but went back and watched the tape of the tv broadcast tonight)

[jacksfan29]

I only feel good if our coaching staff pulls their heads out of their axxes and make Christon our #1 QB. If I see Lujan starting against MSU my head is going to explode. The game Stig is playing is the game of a coach who does not fear his job. Lujan is a great backup, TC is a starter. Stig needs to decide if he wants to win, or be a good guy.

We start Lujan we go 2-2 or 1-3 and either limp into the playoffs or get left home. If we start Christon we go 3-1 the rest of the way.


Not sure why but I feel pretty good about the rest of season even with this terrible showing. I think both teams can agree both teams played poorly on offense. But as a SDSU fan the two teams we always seem to struggle with are UNI and NDSU. We do pretty well against the rest of the league, we just never look like ourselves against those two teams, mainly due to how they play IMO. I think the Jacks still have a great chance at a 8-9 win season. I think a seed is out of the question which really sucks cause that means another trip to fargo (barf) but maybe we get lucky with how many upsets have been happening recently.

[Professor Chaos]

I only feel good if our coaching staff pulls their heads out of their axxes and make Christon our #1 QB. If I see Lujan starting against MSU my head is going to explode. The game Stig is playing is the game of a coach who does not fear his job. Lujan is a great backup, TC is a starter. Stig needs to decide if he wants to win, or be a good guy.

We start Lujan we go 2-2 or 1-3 and either limp into the playoffs or get left home. If we start Christon we go 3-1 the rest of the way.
Agreed, I thought I heard on the broadcast that Stig specifically said that no player loses his starting spot due to an injury. That sounds good in theory but you have to make exceptions to that rule and this is a case where that's true. Christon gives SDSU such a more dynamic offense it's obvious he gives them the best chance to win. Beyond that, if you're going to pull a redshirt on the kid and trade what should be his best year of football (as a 5th year senior) for half a season of his worst year (as a true freshman) you better make that trade worth it right now.

[UNIFanSince1983]

Lujan only played 2 series the whole game though. So it seemed to me like it was more of a you can't lose your starting job to injury so we'll trot him out there twice and then put the real QB in.

I am not sure Lujan cost you guys the game. It wasn't really a traditional 2 QB system at all.

[clenz]

Lujan only played 2 series the whole game though. So it seemed to me like it was more of a you can't lose your starting job to injury so we'll trot him out there twice and then put the real QB in.

I am not sure Lujan cost you guys the game. It wasn't really a traditional 2 QB system at all.
This.

SDSU doesn't know what it's like to **** with 2 qbs year after year....after year

[jacksfan29]

He may have only played two series, but during the week he took first team reps away from Christon, a true Freshman who needs time to prep for a team like UNI.

You take a full week of practice, split the first team reps in preparation and the offense looked completely out of sync till the 2nd half when we showed signs of life. These are two completely different quarterbacks. One a pocket passer who needs a really good running game (see Zenner) to succeed against a physical defense. The other is able to make plays with his feet that open up opportunities against a physical defense. Stupid move by our coaching staff, almost as stupid as the play run on 4th and 1.


Lujan only played 2 series the whole game though. So it seemed to me like it was more of a you can't lose your starting job to injury so we'll trot him out there twice and then put the real QB in.

I am not sure Lujan cost you guys the game. It wasn't really a traditional 2 QB system at all.

[clenz]

He may have only played two series, but during the week he took first team reps away from Christon, a true Freshman who needs time to prep for a team like UNI.

You take a full week of practice, split the first team reps in preparation and the offense looked completely out of sync till the 2nd half when we showed signs of life. These are two completely different quarterbacks. One a pocket passer who needs a really good running game (see Zenner) to succeed against a physical defense. The other is able to make plays with his feet that open up opportunities against a physical defense. Stupid move by our coaching staff, almost as stupid as the play run on 4th and 1.
His feet didn't really open up any plays against UNI...A couple extra snaps in practice wasn't going to change that.

If UNI had an offense that was above middle school level UNI wins that thing by 21+

[Thumper 76]

His feet didn't really open up any plays against UNI...A couple extra snaps in practice wasn't going to change that.

If UNI had an offense that was above middle school level UNI wins that thing by 21+

Our defense hasn't given up that many points to anybody outside of the Kansas game, don't act like the Jacks defense is bad.

[clenz]

Our defense hasn't given up that many points to anybody outside of the Kansas game, don't act like the Jacks defense is bad.
I didn't say it was.

UNI has the worst offense, sans MSU, in the conference. Yet they managed 336 yards of offense and 5.8 yards per play while holding the ball for just 26 minutes and going 3-12 on 3rd down. Daurice Fountain dropped a touchdown in a possession that led to zero points. UNI's second leading rusher was within 7 yards of SDSU's leading rusher.

UNI had 6 possessions end in SDSU territory, 4 of them inside Schmadeke's range on a good playing surface and managed just 10 points due to play calling and drops. Only twice did SDSU get past the UNI 40 - a TD and the TOD to end the game on a drive that UNI had 3 penalties that resulted in an automatic first down - including an atrocious PI call on a 3rd and 27. UNI had nearly as many rushing yards as SDSU did total offense.

Nothing I've said is a knock on SDSU. In fact, it shows their resilience to stay in the game.

Quite simply, just like the last 5.5 years, any kind of offensive output for UNI results in a large UNI win. That offense just doesn't exist.

[CappinHard]

His feet didn't really open up any plays against UNI...

He was our leading rusher as a qb... and his feet didn't open up any plays? xconfusedx

[clenz]

He was our leading rusher as a qb... and his feet didn't open up any plays? xconfusedx
61 yards on 3.8 ypc....

UNI's second leading rusher was 54 yards on 4.5 ypc

[CappinHard]

61 yards on 3.8 ypc....

UNI's second leading rusher was 54 yards on 4.5 ypc

You've heard the phrase 'lies, damned lies, and statistics', right? My point is, he did open up some plays with his feet, including the 3rd and long play that set up the 4th and 1 debacle to end the game. Hopefully as he gets more game experience, he is more aware of where the first down sticks are in a crucial situation like that.

[jacksfan29]

All hail UNI xbowx

You should have put up 45 on us, if not for... Now I'm thinking I would like to see UNI again.

The point, we are playing a true freshman. Not a red shirt Freshman (see NDSU), a true Freshman. A kid who sat out half his senior season with a broken leg. This was his third game after having his RS pulled. Our offense was absolutely inept the entire first half. And yes, the UNI defense is good. But not that good. We looked completely out of sync before halftime. I believe the uncertainty of our head coach deciding he had to start Lujan was a HUGE mistake.

Our offense is completely different with Christon in the game. It is very vanilla with Lujan playing. He needs a big running game to get anything going, he can't run it himself. Our offense is very dynamic with TC. Partly because he can take off at anytime and break a big one. Two very different mindsets. It will screw up the timing of your offense, especially the offensive line by moving between the two. Their skills are not compatible. You can disagree, that's the beauty of the internet.

Our drives in the 1st half (96 yards total)
3 plays 0 yards (Lujan)
6 plays 16 yards (Lujan)
5 plays 29 yards
9 plays 39 yards
3 plays 3 yards
1 play - 1 yard




61 yards on 3.8 ypc....

UNI's second leading rusher was 54 yards on 4.5 ypc

[clenz]

UNI's defense had nothing to do with that timing issue?

SDSU was averaging over 400 yards of offense coming into the week and finished with 259.

Not bad for "not being that good of a defense"

[iowastatebison]

61 yards on 3.8 ypc....

UNI's second leading rusher was 54 yards on 4.5 ypc


Sack yardage is included in Christon's rushing total, take away the four times he was sacked for 23 yards, Christon's rushing total is 12-83 yards. 6.92 ypc.

[CappinHard]

Sack yardage is included in Christon's rushing total, take away the four times he was sacked for 23 yards, Christon's rushing total is 12-83 yards. 6.92 ypc.

Thanks, that's why I brought up that phrase, but in case he didn't know what I meant, this will do the trick.

[iowastatebison]

Thanks, that's why I brought up that phrase, but in case he didn't know what I meant, this will do the trick.

No problem. As a statistician, I felt like it was my duty to respond in some manner to that phrase.

[UNIFanSince1983]

So what I am hearing is the two drives Lujan had this game cost SDSU a win?

Okay got it.

[Jackal]

So what I am hearing is the two drives Lujan had this game cost SDSU a win?

Okay got it.
Yeah, that's exactly what was said.

[CappinHard]

So what I am hearing is the two drives Lujan had this game cost SDSU a win?

Okay got it.

Not sure where you're getting that. The fact that Lujan had all of the first team reps in practice this week may have cost SDSU a win, based on the fact that the offense looked completely out of sync. Yes, UNI has a good defense and had a good game plan, and I think they deserve all kinds of credit for executing it well. However, with our defense holding you to 10 points, you can't blame us for feeling like we should have won that game based on our offensive output the rest of the season (minus the NDSU game). We kept shooting ourselves in the foot with penalties, and kept coming up just short of a first down on plays. I think we win if the coaches would have done 1 of 2 things: 1. Leave Lujan in for the whole game, and let him get back into the rhythm after being out for 2 weeks. 2. Give Christion the first team reps through practice all week, start him from the get go, and don't make him feel like he's going to get yanked if he makes a bad decision. I was afraid of this situation leading a loss all week leading up to this game, and it came to fruition. Hopefully giving Lujan 1st team reps last week and starting him for 2 series was enough for them to keep the claim of "not losing your job to injury", and now they can move forward with Christion as our QB for the next 3.5 years.

[PantherRob82]

Both teams suck. Everyone move on. xcoffeex

[unigriff]

agreed

[clenz]

Not sure where you're getting that. The fact that Lujan had all of the first team reps in practice this week may have cost SDSU a win, based on the fact that the offense looked completely out of sync. Yes, UNI has a good defense and had a good game plan, and I think they deserve all kinds of credit for executing it well. However, with our defense holding you to 10 points, you can't blame us for feeling like we should have won that game based on our offensive output the rest of the season (minus the NDSU game). We kept shooting ourselves in the foot with penalties, and kept coming up just short of a first down on plays. I think we win if the coaches would have done 1 of 2 things: 1. Leave Lujan in for the whole game, and let him get back into the rhythm after being out for 2 weeks. 2. Give Christion the first team reps through practice all week, start him from the get go, and don't make him feel like he's going to get yanked if he makes a bad decision. I was afraid of this situation leading a loss all week leading up to this game, and it came to fruition. Hopefully giving Lujan 1st team reps last week and starting him for 2 series was enough for them to keep the claim of "not losing your job to injury", and now they can move forward with Christion as our QB for the next 3.5 years.
SDSU got 35 penalty yards on that final drive and were about to be forced into a 3rd and 27 if not for an atrocious PI call

Pretty much every single UNI fan all last week said UNI was going to score less than 14. That's what happened.

You can't blame use UNI fans for feeling like it should have been a 20 point win because our top WR dropped a touchdown pass, half of the incompleteness were missed a field goal, kicked a field goal rather than going for it on 4th and very short, and had 4 drives stall out inside the SDSU 40.

[UNIFanSince1983]

Both teams suck. Everyone move on. xcoffeex

Well I know we suck. On Saturday we just sucked less than SDSU did. No more no less.

I mostly was defending their QB who led them to some impressive victories and a playoff run last year, and early in the year this year before being injured against NDSU.

[PantherRob82]

Well I know we suck. On Saturday we just sucked less than SDSU did. No more no less.

I mostly was defending their QB who led them to some impressive victories and a playoff run last year, and early in the year this year before being injured against NDSU.

I'm just playing around. Carry on. ;)

[jacksfan29]

I like Lujan, he's a good kid. He had Zenner behind him last year running for over 2000 yards. Sumner came back to finish the regular season and was our starting QB in the playoffs. Lujan had a good early season this year, against sub par defenses who weren't very physical. The NDSU game exposed a lot of problems. Our O Line is not in sync and has a hard time protecting the QB. Take a peak at the final play from the game Saturday. A missed assignment by our left guard blew the play up. Not the first time something like that has happened this year.

Offensively it seems that we move the ball better when we have a QB who can take off. Lujan can not take off, Christon can. We have a coaching staff who can't seem to decide what to do. The two QBs are not close enough in style to play them both and expect your team to be able to adjust. You should know that platooning the QB position is a recipe for disaster. If it means playing Lujan, than name him the starter and hope we don't run into a physical team in the playoffs, if we get there.

We have a lot of issues right now. Thankfully we have MSU coming up. That is the first game against a team not in the top 25 since the RMU game. We'll see what happens the rest of the year, I'm not overly confident that our coaches know what to do.


Well I know we suck. On Saturday we just sucked less than SDSU did. No more no less.

I mostly was defending their QB who led them to some impressive victories and a playoff run last year, and early in the year this year before being injured against NDSU.

[jacksfan29]

We'll discuss it when your back playing .500 ball. I expect that to happen this weekend, but there is no guarantee. You may want to start paying attention to Glenn and USD. They aren't the cellar dweller everyone expected them to be. Thankfully we get MSU this weekend.


UNI's defense had nothing to do with that timing issue?

SDSU was averaging over 400 yards of offense coming into the week and finished with 259.

Not bad for "not being that good of a defense"

[clenz]

I like Lujan, he's a good kid. He had Zenner behind him last year running for over 2000 yards. Sumner came back to finish the regular season and was our starting QB in the playoffs. Lujan had a good early season this year, against sub par defenses who weren't very physical. The NDSU game exposed a lot of problems. Our O Line is not in sync and has a hard time protecting the QB. Take a peak at the final play from the game Saturday. A missed assignment by our left guard blew the play up. Not the first time something like that has happened this year.

Offensively it seems that we move the ball better when we have a QB who can take off. Lujan can not take off, Christon can. We have a coaching staff who can't seem to decide what to do. The two QBs are not close enough in style to play them both and expect your team to be able to adjust. You should know that platooning the QB position is a recipe for disaster. If it means playing Lujan, than name him the starter and hope we don't run into a physical team in the playoffs, if we get there.

We have a lot of issues right now. Thankfully we have MSU coming up. That is the first game against a team not in the top 25 since the RMU game. We'll see what happens the rest of the year, I'm not overly confident that our coaches know what to do.
Welcome to every UNI game since the start of 2010

Rennie/Davis
Kollmorgen/Carnes
Kollmorgen/Bailey

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We'll discuss it when your back playing .500 ball. I expect that to happen this weekend, but there is no guarantee. You may want to start paying attention to Glenn and USD. They aren't the cellar dweller everyone expected them to be. Thankfully we get MSU this weekend.
Be pretty embarrassing to lose to a sub .500 UNI team... I get it

[PantherRob82]

We'll discuss it when your back playing .500 ball. I expect that to happen this weekend, but there is no guarantee. You may want to start paying attention to Glenn and USD. They aren't the cellar dweller everyone expected them to be. Thankfully we get MSU this weekend.

Since when do fans need to switch their attention to the next game? xlolx

[TheKingpin28]

Had Kollmorgen been given any confidence by Verduzco and Farley, besides the 2013 year (even though they gave NDSU a hell of a game with some questionable calls on both sides), easily could have ran the table between them and the Bison. Kollmorgen with Johnson and X with that stout run D was a great combo that the coaching staff couldn't figure out. I feel bad for them since they have talent but the coaching staff feels the need for mediocrity. Such a shame since Kollmorgen deserves better but he seems too humble to try and force his way. Such a shame too since he should be holding some serious stats as a Panther.

[Jackal]

Is Kollmorgen done for the year?

[clenz]

Is Kollmorgen done for the year?
I assume so.

Wasn't dressed last week. Had about 7 concussions

[Jackal]

I assume so.

Wasn't dressed last week. Had about 7 concussions
4th Damn that sucks.........http://www.thegazette.com/subject/sports/unis-kollmorgen-confirms-concussion-possibly-done-for-good-20151027

[UNIFanSince1983]

Awful to hear. As much as I would love to see him play again I think he should probably be done. No need to risk future problems in life because of this.