#2 EWU at FBS Toledo Game Thread

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#2 Eastern Washington Eagles (2-0, 0-0 BSC) at University of Toledo Rockets (0-2, 0-0 MAC)


Saturday, Sept. 14, 2013 • 4 p.m. Pacific
Glass Bowl (26,248) • Toledo, Ohio


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TV: ESPN3 (http://www.watchespn.com/) and ESPN GamePlan
Webcast: http://www.mac-sports.com/Schools/Toled ... aming.aspx (http://www.mac-sports.com/Schools/Toledo/LiveStreaming.aspx)
Radio: 700 ESPN (http://spokaneradio.com/player/kxlxam.html)
Series: Never met.



After a pair of tussles with the Southeastern Conference, the Big Sky Conference is going to look downright inviting to the Toledo Rockets of the Mid-American Conference.

Toledo is 0-2 after suffering a 24-6 loss to Florida to open the season and then falling 38-23 to Missouri on Sept. 7. A year ago, UT advanced to its third-straight bowl game, falling to Utah State 41-15 in the Famous Idaho Potato Bowl in Boise, Idaho. The Rockets finished 9-4 overall and 6-2 in the Western Division of the MAC.

“It’s a test – it’s a true test,” said Eastern head coach Beau Baldwin. “They are a very quality opponent, and a team that wins eight or nine games every year at the FBS level. When you watch video of them, they can play with any team in the country and they showed that in the first two weeks against Florida and Missouri.

“We are going to have to really be on point on both sides of the ball,” he continued. “Our margin for error is going to be razor thin – especially on the road. There are certain things we did last week that we won’t get away with against Toledo. We know that, and we have to attack it all week in practice.”

Eastern enters 2-0, having upset 25th-ranked Oregon State from the Pac-12 Conference 49-46 on Aug. 31 and then scoring 29 first-quarter points in a 43-14 romp over NCAA Division II Western Oregon on Sept. 7.

Eastern is 2-0 for only the second time since 2001, and the first in Beau Baldwin’s 10 seasons as an Eastern head coach or assistant coach. In fact, the last time EWU was 3-0 came in 2007 when Baldwin was head coach at Central Washington.

“It has been awhile since we have been 2-0 because we always have had such a tough nonconference schedule to start the season,” he said. “The neat thing about the Western Oregon game is that there are a lot of things that we can coach and clean up. At the end of the day, I love finding stuff to clean up especially when the guys find a way to win, and win fairly convincingly. It feels pretty good to be 2-0.”


http://goeags.com/sports/m-footbl/2013-14/Releases/13fbSep9ToledoPreview

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TOLEDO BLADE
Campbell defends struggling QB Owens (http://www.toledoblade.com/UT/2013/09/10/Campbell-defends-struggling-QB-Owens.html) (9/10)
Toledo foe EWU no pushover FCS squad (http://www.toledoblade.com/UT/2013/09/11/Toledo-foe-EWU-no-pushover-FCS-squad-Copy.html) (9/11)
UT’s Detmer strives for consistency (https://www.toledoblade.com/UT/2013/09/13/UT-s-Detmer-strives-for-consistency.html) (9/13)

INDEPENDENT COLLEGIAN
Toledo Rockets welcome in talented Eastern Washington team for home opener (http://www.independentcollegian.com/sports/toledo-rockets-welcome-in-talented-eastern-washington-team-for-home-opener-1.2834216#.UjHciCLD_IU) (9/10)
Junior Sylvestre stepping up, leading young Toledo Rockets defense (http://www.independentcollegian.com/sports/junior-sylvestre-stepping-up-leading-young-toledo-rockets-defense-1.2834212#.UjNIiNKTjTo) (9/10)


TOLEDO NATION
Rockets Open Home Season Against EW (http://toledo.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1548115) (9/11)


SPOKESMAN-REVIEW
Eagles stay on even keel despite flux of schedule (http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2013/sep/10/eagles-stay-even-keel-despite-flux-schedule/) (9/10)
Eagles face challenge against 0-2 Rockets (http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2013/sep/12/eagles-face-challenge-against-0-2-rockets/) (9/12)
EWU Live Chat With Jim Allen (http://www.spokesman.com/blogs/sportslink/2013/sep/12/ewu-live-chat-noon/) (9/12)
Agen walked on before running with starters (http://www.spokesman.com/eagles/stories/2013/sep/13/agen-walked-on-before-running-with-starters/) (9/13)


KREM
(VIDEO) Raw: Beau Baldwin on perfect start, trip to Toledo (http://www.krem.com/video/raw/Raw-Beau-Baldwin-on-perfect-start-trip-to-Toledo-223247651.html) (9/10)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsmS0OWUlnI

[robsnotes4u]

Good luck. Two FBS wins would be awesome. Do the FCS and the BSC proud.


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[Drblankstare]

OSU better pray that EWU wins this game. I don't think they have too much to worry about.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

Opening line is UT -3.5. Can't wait. As long as we can slow down Fluellen and don't turn the ball over, we should win.

[Squealofthepig]

Toledo had some decent flashes at Mizzou, but gave up big plays and turnovers too often. If this was in Cheney, I'd actually expect EWU to be the favorite. Hopefully EWU can keep it close and grab another FBS scalp! Go Eagles (for this game at least)!

[ursus arctos horribilis]

I think and hope this is gonna be a good one. Good luck to the Eags.

[ASUMountaineer]

Go get em, E-Dub!

[kalm]

Opening line is UT -3.5. Can't wait. As long as we can slow down Fluellen and don't turn the ball over, we should win.

No we shouldn't. On the road, shollies, bowl team last year.

But we can.

[Gil Dobie]

24+ point win for EWU

[marenlee]

Glad to see it's on Gameplan. Will definitely tune into this one.

[NoDak 4 Ever]

Keys to the game

Toledo - Play some ****ing defense

EWU - Hope Toledo doesn't play some ****ing defense.

[Twentysix]

Go EWU!


...I'll be cleaning up puke for the next 2 days.

[UNDColorado]

Go get em EWU!

[BisonBacker]

I expect to see EWU win this game.

[BluBengal07]

i might be able to drive down to checkout this game tomorrow. EWU should take this one though.

[Red & Black]

I don't expect us to win this one, but wouldn't be that surprised if we did, either. It'll come down to run defense and the ability to get our offense on the field as much as possible. I think we can score on these guys just fine.


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[IBleedYellow]

If EWU doesn't win, it's an upset in my mind.

[Tubakat2014]

From the Toledo Blade article:

“Honestly, they’re a Division I team. They should be in FBS,” UT running back David Fluellen said.

“They have a chip on their shoulder to show everyone they should be D-I,” Rockets defensive end Jayrone Elliott said.

...okay then.

[Grizcountry420]

From the Toledo Blade article:

“Honestly, they’re a Division I team. They should be in FBS,” UT running back David Fluellen said.

“They have a chip on their shoulder to show everyone they should be D-I,” Rockets defensive end Jayrone Elliott said.

...okay then.




You mad bro?

[Sam_Kats]

Good luck, EWU

[Grizalltheway]

If EWU doesn't win, it's an upset in my mind.

Well, your mind is pretty silly.

[IBleedYellow]

Well, your mind is pretty silly.

Probably, but I was the person that walked into Bill Synder Family stadium stating NDSU was going to win the entire time I was there, so there's that!


Or we can go the logical way and realize that the MAC isn't anything special other than their name of being FBS. NDSU crushed the MAC champion a few years back, I'm fairly confident EWU can score enough against them to win. If they'll stop them from scoring is the question.

[TennBison]

The QB from EWU should give them fits, I like EWU by ummmmmmmm..... 6 points in a shootout.

[Ivytalk]

EWU by 10.

[Red & Black]

If we can keep their RB from running wild, them we've got a chance. If not, oh boy...


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[saxbison]

If we can keep their RB from running wild, them we've got a chance. If not, oh boy...

How is your running back situation this year? Against OSU, Adams kept it on 80% of the read option plays. Do you have the backfield to make that give against Toledo? If so, EWU wins comfortably.

[dudeitsaid]

How is your running back situation this year? Against OSU, Adams kept it on 80% of the read option plays. Do you have the backfield to make that give against Toledo? If so, EWU wins comfortably.

Adams is EWU's leading rusher at this point, but they've done RB by committee it seems this year. So there aren't any real strong individual standouts in that regard, but the total rushing for the year so far is 16th in the FCS. Personally, I've really liked seeing some of the rushing efforts from a few of the new Eagles particularly. Freshman Jalen Moore and Jabari Wilson both looked solid on several of their runs. There are several other RB's that have played, and done well as well. Aside from Adam's yards, the RB's have put up over 300 yards in the two games so far this year. I see the coaching staff very committed to the run, and predict a more balanced attack for the year.

All that being said, I still see this game as a one in five chance for the Eagles to win. I think they will play well, and keep it close. But with the way the Toledo players and coaches are talking about this game, they won't be taking it lightly. And they've had a couple of games to work out the jitters. They're gonna want this win bad, and will fight hard for it. They have more film to go from then the Beav's did. I will personally be as impressed if EWU can pull this one off as against Oregon State.

[Red & Black]

How is your running back situation this year? Against OSU, Adams kept it on 80% of the read option plays. Do you have the backfield to make that give against Toledo? If so, EWU wins comfortably.

He did...that said, there were also a couple nice runs right up the middle out of the read option as well. As far as RB's, we've had four different guys run the ball through two games (Brown, Wilson, Moore, Forte). We also have who was thought to be our starter this season (Bronson) sitting out with injury who hasn't played yet and Forte (probably #2) didn't play versus OSU. Right now I don't see the RB by committee thing changing and we'll continue to see a lot of different guys getting carries as there's no real home runner hitters. I think Wilson could be that guy in the future, but he's just a Freshman.

[Red & Black]

Adams is EWU's leading rusher at this point, but they've done RB by committee it seems this year. So there aren't any real strong individual standouts in that regard, but the total rushing for the year so far is 16th in the FCS. Personally, I've really liked seeing some of the rushing efforts from a few of the new Eagles particularly. Freshman Jalen Moore and Jabari Wilson both looked solid on several of their runs. There are several other RB's that have played, and done well as well. Aside from Adam's yards, the RB's have put up over 300 yards in the two games so far this year. I see the coaching staff very committed to the run, and predict a more balanced attack for the year.

All that being said, I still see this game as a one in five chance for the Eagles to win. I think they will play well, and keep it close. But with the way the Toledo players and coaches are talking about this game, they won't be taking it lightly. And they've had a couple of games to work out the jitters. They're gonna want this win bad, and will fight hard for it. They have more film to go from then the Beav's did. I will personally be as impressed if EWU can pull this one off as against Oregon State.

I'd be more impressed with a win at Toledo than the one at OSU...for all the reasons you mentioned.


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[PantherRob82]

I've been to Toldeo to watch them play UNH. It's definitely a place where an FCS opponent has a good opportunity to win. Not as intimidating as some BCS facilities.

[Green1]

Give 'em hell EWU!

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Updated post #2 with articles.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

Updated the OP with a free MAC stream for those who don't have ESPN3.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

TD EAGLES! Big Play VA to Ashton Clark. 7-0 Eagles.

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Big Fluellen run. TD Rockets. Went for 2, didn't get it. 7-6 Eagles. Gonna be a barn burner. xlolx

[Screamin_Eagle174]

TD Eagles. 14-6, 8 minutes still left in the 1st. Adams is 10/11, 141+ yards and 2 TDs. Completed to EIGHT different receivers. :D

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TD Fluellen. EWU leads 14-13, 6 minutes left in the 1st still. xlolx

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EWU can't convert on 3rd and 10 at midfield, 1st punt of the game coming up.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

Toledo QB Owens keeps on the read option, get's blasted by Tevin McDonald. Owens hurt.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

Toledo coaches don't think they can stop EWU much, go for it on 4th and 5 from the EWU 40 and convert.

[bonarae]

Now starting the 2nd quarter of play...

[bonarae]

Roughing the kicker penalty on EWU.... 14-13 still.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

UT FG good, but penalty on EWU for running into the kicker. First and 10 on the EWU 12 for UT.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

3rd and 4 from the EWU 6, big pressure from Pulu, ball almost picked off by TJ Lee. FG good. Toledo leads 16-14.

[bonarae]

FG attempt for Toledo good. 16-14 Toledo.

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BS "fumble" by the EWU receiver, he never had possession. UT ball on their own 31.

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Eagles force their first 3 and out, Toledo punts on 4th and 1.

[Twentysix]

I don't know why but my ESPN3 feed is just green now.

[MR. CHICKEN]

YEAH...WENT KA-PUT...DURIN' STONY BROOK/BUFFALO TOO!

TEASERS.......TA GET YA...PAYIN'....xdontknowx.....AWK?

[Screamin_Eagle174]

****. UT DL tipped the ball, LB picked it off. 5 minutes before half, UT has the ball on the EWU 40 up 16-14.xsmhx

[marenlee]

You LIE! This game isn't on Gameplan. xbawlingx

[Twentysix]

You LIE! This game isn't on Gameplan. xbawlingx

Its on espn3.com


http://espn.go.com/watchespn/player/_/id/1081603/

[marenlee]

Its on espn3.com


http://espn.go.com/watchespn/player/_/id/1081603/

Well sir. I wouldn't have bought Gameplan if I could get ESPN3. The thought has crossed my mind to buy a new house in the next town over to get a different ISP.

[Twentysix]

Well sir. I wouldn't have bought Gameplan if I could get ESPN3. The thought has crossed my mind to buy a new house in the next town over to get a different ISP.

Clenz will give you an account to watch it. PM him.

[marenlee]

Clenz will give you an account to watch it. PM him.

If it's Xbox360 compatible ill be in heaven.

[Twentysix]

If it's Xbox360 compatible ill be in heaven.

Nah, just PC.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

You LIE! This game isn't on Gameplan. xbawlingx

Both institutions said it would also be on GamePlan. Not my fault. xlolx


Their all-world kicker missed a FG after making 24 straight going back to last year. Rockets lead 16-14 at half.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

Hamlin had 10 tackles in the 1st half. Holy ****!

[Screamin_Eagle174]

xbangx

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Score??

[Screamin_Eagle174]

Heading to the 4th quarter with UT up 23-14 after an 80+ yard throw and catch to their #1 WR Reedy. EWU driving however inside the UT redzone.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

KUPP! TD Eagles! Rockets lead 23-21.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

TD Rockets. 30-21.

[BisonBacker]

How much time left?

[Squealofthepig]

8:56 to go; Toledo padded their lead with a TD to go up 30-21.

[IBleedYellow]

Commmon EWU! YOU NEED TO WIN, I PICKED YOU IN CLENZ PICKEM!

[aces1180]

Looks like EWU struggles with the run...280+ yards given up.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

EWU certainly had chances, couldn't get out of their own way. UT wins it 33-21.

[IBleedYellow]

EWU certainly had chances, couldn't get out of their own way. UT wins it 33-21.

WTF bro! I had faith in you guys tonight! :(

Le sigh. Good effort on the Eagle's part, though.

[BisonFan02]

WTF bro! I had faith in you guys tonight! :(

Le sigh. Good effort on the Eagle's part, though.

Check the sheet...you picked Toledo :D

[Screamin_Eagle174]

Check the sheet...you picked Toledo :D

What a dick. xlolx

[clenz]

lack of defense hurts EWU.

Gave up 530 yards of offense, with 325 of that on the ground. That's going to be a huge issue for them as the season goes on.

Also only 51 rushing yards...


Not a lot of balance

EWU will look very strong through BSC play as it looks very weak defensively....but long run I don't see them as a legit title contender until/unless those issues are fixed.


Go a head and spin/flame away SE, and other EWU fans

quando omni flunkus moritati

[Screamin_Eagle174]

lack of defense hurts EWU.

Gave up 530 yards of offense, with 325 of that on the ground. That's going to be a huge issue for them as the season goes on.

Also only 51 rushing yards...


Not a lot of balance

EWU will look very strong through BSC play as it looks very weak defensively....but long run I don't see them as a legit title contender until/unless those issues are fixed.


Go a head and spin/flame away SE, and other EWU fans

quando omni flunkus moritati

What would a UNI fan know about being a title contender. xcoffeex








xlolx

[clenz]

What would a UNI fan know about being a title contender. xcoffeex








xlolx

and the spinning and using the 5 Ds (the d EWU is good at) begins

quando omni flunkus moritati

[Screamin_Eagle174]

and the spinning and using the 5 Ds (the d EWU is good at) begins

quando omni flunkus moritati

Whatever you say, MSU of the MVFC. Pretty sure none of the BSC teams we face will feature an NFL-caliber RB AND a 1000 yard WR. Nor will EWU play as bad as they did offensively in this one.

[BisonFan02]

and the spinning and using the 5 Ds (the d EWU is good at) begins

quando omni flunkus moritati

It matches his wardrobe too...

http://skreened.com/render-product/c/a/j/cajscrcqfwskymeyetwy/the-5-d-s-of-dodgeball-t-shirt.american-apparel-unisex-organic-tee.pomegranate.w760h760.jpg

[clenz]

Don't get me wrong...you'll rip through the Big Sky...Montana will be your only challenge.

Idaho State -Nothing needs to be said
Montana State - looks pedestrian on offense without DM. Defense may keep them in things though. As bad as the rest of the BSC looks they're still probably a 3rd place team.
Portland State - potential but they gave up 350 yards of offense to the D2 they played today, 616 yards to Cal, and 438 yards to Eastern Oregon
SUU - beat up on a D2 and a hapless South Alabama. Gave up just under 500 yards today and gained 213
NAU - Bowman runs like crazy, but only averaging about 200 yards of offense per game
CP - tough to tell after playing 2 FBS teams, but giving up about 480 yards per game of offense the last 2 weeks...
UND - possibly worst defense in the history of ever
UNC - lost to a D2, about to get **** stomped by UNI this week...giving up about 420 yards of offense per week. Might be luck to win another game this year
WSU- there's got to be an upside to getting outscored 140-13 in the last 2 weeks, and 180-63 on the season, right? Well, they get to play BSC defenses. They are givng up 600 yards of offense per game
SSU - Needed OT, and 63 points to beat a D2/NAIA school while giving up 600 yards of offense..averaging giving up about 520-540 yards on the season. On the plus side, they finally scored this season...only took 3 games. That should change quickly facing these BSC defenses.
UC-D - actually has one of the best defenses in the conference thus far giving up a meager 340 yards per game


EWU will beat the **** out of the Big Sky....I'm not so sure about teams they will hit come playoffs

[Thundar]

Don't get me wrong...you'll rip through the Big Sky...Montana will be your only challenge.

Idaho State -Nothing needs to be said
Montana State - looks pedestrian on offense without DM. Defense may keep them in things though. As bad as the rest of the BSC looks they're still probably a 3rd place team.
Portland State - potential but they gave up 350 yards of offense to the D2 they played today, 616 yards to Cal, and 438 yards to Eastern Oregon
SUU - beat up on a D2 and a hapless South Alabama. Gave up just under 500 yards today and gained 213
NAU - Bowman runs like crazy, but only averaging about 200 yards of offense per game
CP - tough to tell after playing 2 FBS teams, but giving up about 480 yards per game of offense the last 2 weeks...
UND - possibly worst defense in the history of ever
UNC - lost to a D2, about to get **** stomped by UNI this week...giving up about 420 yards of offense per week. Might be luck to win another game this year
WSU- there's got to be an upside to getting outscored 140-13 in the last 2 weeks, and 180-63 on the season, right? Well, they get to play BSC defenses. They are givng up 600 yards of offense per game
SSU - Needed OT, and 63 points to beat a D2/NAIA school while giving up 600 yards of offense..averaging giving up about 520-540 yards on the season. On the plus side, they finally scored this season...only took 3 games. That should change quickly facing these BSC defenses.
UC-D - actually has one of the best defenses in the conference thus far giving up a meager 340 yards per game


EWU will beat the **** out of the Big Sky....I'm not so sure about teams they will hit come playoffs

looks about right, should add our worst team that didn't win a game last year beat UC-D this year

[dudeitsaid]

Don't get me wrong...you'll rip through the Big Sky...Montana will be your only challenge.

Idaho State -Nothing needs to be said
Montana State - looks pedestrian on offense without DM. Defense may keep them in things though. As bad as the rest of the BSC looks they're still probably a 3rd place team.
Portland State - potential but they gave up 350 yards of offense to the D2 they played today, 616 yards to Cal, and 438 yards to Eastern Oregon
SUU - beat up on a D2 and a hapless South Alabama. Gave up just under 500 yards today and gained 213
NAU - Bowman runs like crazy, but only averaging about 200 yards of offense per game
CP - tough to tell after playing 2 FBS teams, but giving up about 480 yards per game of offense the last 2 weeks...
UND - possibly worst defense in the history of ever
UNC - lost to a D2, about to get **** stomped by UNI this week...giving up about 420 yards of offense per week. Might be luck to win another game this year
WSU- there's got to be an upside to getting outscored 140-13 in the last 2 weeks, and 180-63 on the season, right? Well, they get to play BSC defenses. They are givng up 600 yards of offense per game
SSU - Needed OT, and 63 points to beat a D2/NAIA school while giving up 600 yards of offense..averaging giving up about 520-540 yards on the season. On the plus side, they finally scored this season...only took 3 games. That should change quickly facing these BSC defenses.
UC-D - actually has one of the best defenses in the conference thus far giving up a meager 340 yards per game


EWU will beat the **** out of the Big Sky....I'm not so sure about teams they will hit come playoffs

I don't think there are many teams in the FCS that could perform at the level of either Oregon State or Toledo. EWU won one of those games, and was competitive in the other, being down by two points into the 4th quarter. I don't think many FCS defenses would have been able to stop the Toledo rushing attack. Against the FCS, I personally don't see the Eagle defense as world beaters, but I think they will play well enough to allow the offense to win the game. Additionally, I think the EWU style of play, being a faster, more quick strike style than some others can inflate the defensive stats because our D ends up on the field more. The slower, methodical, clock control styles tend to produce less offensive yards, and have better defensive stats. I think it's more style than that the Eagle or BSC defenses suck.

Also, as much as I would love to believe EWU will walk through the BSC, many of the league games always seem to be tough. EWU has a target, and all of those teams would love to take us down. MSU and Portland State will be tough games no matter the circumstances, almost having a rivalry flavor, and I believe UM is legit, and will prove to be a top 5 team over the season. Who knows who wins that one. But I think EWU loses two BSC games this year, and still makes it to the playoffs.

Sure wish we had Kaufman today!

[Red & Black]

I don't think there are many teams in the FCS that could perform at the level of either Oregon State or Toledo. EWU won one of those games, and was competitive in the other, being down by two points into the 4th quarter. I don't think many FCS defenses would have been able to stop the Toledo rushing attack. Against the FCS, I personally don't see the Eagle defense as world beaters, but I think they will play well enough to allow the offense to win the game. Additionally, I think the EWU style of play, being a faster, more quick strike style than some others can inflate the defensive stats because our D ends up on the field more. The slower, methodical, clock control styles tend to produce less offensive yards, and have better defensive stats. I think it's more style than that the Eagle or BSC defenses suck.

Also, as much as I would love to believe EWU will walk through the BSC, many of the league games always seem to be tough. EWU has a target, and all of those teams would love to take us down. MSU and Portland State will be tough games no matter the circumstances, almost having a rivalry flavor, and I believe UM is legit, and will prove to be a top 5 team over the season. Who knows who wins that one. But I think EWU loses two BSC games this year, and still makes it to the playoffs.

Sure wish we had Kaufman today!

This. Exactly this. Our defense isn't as bad as it has looked against OSU and Toledo, both of those teams had huge talent on offense. Our defense will be just fine if/when we make the playoffs this year, which I think we will.


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