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UNHWildCats
September 19th, 2006, 12:04 AM
01. Georgia Southern .745
02. Coastal Carolina .722
03. Grambling State .708
04. Delaware .704
05. Florida A&M .693
06. Tennessee State .671
07. Eastern Kentucky .665
08. Jackson State .648
09. California-Davis .643
09. North Dakota State .643
11. Dayton .637
12. Northern Iowa .629
13. Hofstra .625
14. McNeese State .624
15. Central Arkansas .623
16. Southern Univ .622
17. South Carolina State .615
18. Robert Morris .611
19. Appalachian State .610
20. Yale .599
21. Jacksonville State .595
21. Monmouth .595
22. Western Illinois .592
23. Albany .591
24. Western Kentucky .590
25. Lehigh .585
26. Youngstown State .584
27. New Hampshire .581

UNHWildCats
September 19th, 2006, 12:08 AM
Sorry let me correct something. This is winning percent since 1945 I missed that at first.

blur2005
September 19th, 2006, 12:20 AM
09. California-Davis .643
I am 100% sure this will cause ire.

ASU Kep
September 19th, 2006, 01:38 AM
I am 100% sure this will cause ire.

That will? What about f'ing CCU coming in at the 2 spot? :rolleyes:

FargoBison
September 19th, 2006, 01:42 AM
That will? What about f'ing CCU coming in at the 2 spot? :rolleyes:

Aggie fans don't enjoy being called Cal Davis, they like to be called either UCD or UC Davis. UCD's winning % should draw no ire because it is based on a long and great history unlike CCU who's % is based on a very short history.

ASU Kep
September 19th, 2006, 01:45 AM
Aggie fans don't enjoy being called Cal Davis, they like to be called either UCD or UC Davis. UCD's winning % should draw no ire because it is based on a long and great history unlike CCU who's % is based on a very short history.

ahhh...didn't even notice that. I'm exhausted.

OldAggieAlum
September 19th, 2006, 02:08 AM
Referring to UC Davis as Cal Davis is comparable to referring to UCLA as Cal Los Angeles.

th0m
September 19th, 2006, 04:54 AM
Any specific reason you stopped at #27, which so coincidentally happens to be UNH? ;) Seriously though, do you have a link for the entire list? I'd like to see all the current DI-AA programs and their %.

Also looks like you missed #10, and have two #21's and #9's.

JoltinJoe
September 19th, 2006, 06:00 AM
Top I-AA Winning Percentage, All-Time (From the 2006 Official NCAA Division I-A and Division I-AA Record Book) (page 167)

Official 2006 NCAA Divisions I-A and I-AA Records Book (http://www.ncaa.org/library/records/football/football_records_book/2006/2006_d1_football_records_book.pdf)

(th0m, you can find an alphabetical listing of all I-AA programs, and their all-time record and winning percentage starting on page 168 of the pdf document)

danefan
September 19th, 2006, 08:15 AM
23. Albany .591

All with one coach-Bob Ford!!!!!!!!!!!!

DetroitFlyer
September 19th, 2006, 08:38 AM
Dayton's results are reported on 98 years of football. Last season we celebrated our 100th year of football! This season is 101! Mike Kelly's mantra to the team is "Football 101". First to signify doing all of the basic right and second to play off of 101 years of Flyer Football History!

AppGuy04
September 19th, 2006, 08:46 AM
Also looks like you missed #10, and have two #21's and #9's.

thats cause they are tied

AmsterBison
September 19th, 2006, 08:56 AM
While showing all-time records is cook, it seems like the DI-AA recordbook should have a section on records while a team was part of DI-AA.

Best Winning percentages while members of DI-AA
Active members only, minimum 100 games

01. Dayton .823 (116-25-0)
02. Georgia Southern .765 (225-69-0)
03. Duquesne .746 (106-36-0)
04. Eastern Kentucky .724 (246-93-2)
05. Hampton .708 (92-38-0)
06. Delaware .689 (218-98-1)
07. Furman .684 (201-92-4)
08. Northern Iowa .682 (207-96-2)
09. Pennsylvania .676 (160-76-2)
10. Grambling State .67 (217-106-4)
11. Montana .658 (226-117-1)
12. Appalachian State .656 (190-99-2)
13. Lehigh .645 (205-112-4)
14. Jackson State 208-113-6 (.645) *correction*
15. Hofstra .638 (96-54-2)
16. Youngstown State .632 (200-116-3)
17. Robert Morris .617 (76-47-1)
18. William & Mary .613 (170-107-2)
19. McNeese State .606 (172-111-6)
20. Southern .602 (194-128-3)
21. New Hampshire .598 (183-122-5)
22. Wagner .593 (83-57-0)
23. Drake .593 (117-80-1)
24. South Carolina State .591 (190-131-2)
25. San Diego .588 (80-56-0)
26. Florida A&M .588 (192-134-3)
27. Monmouth (NJ) .587 (61-43-0)
28. Villanova .586 (129-91-1)
29. Eastern Illinois .585 (171-121-2)
30. Portland State .576 (72-53-0)

carney2
September 19th, 2006, 08:56 AM
A little bit of self smack, and outside of the intent of this thread, but the Ivy League, excluding Columbia, is .758 vs. Lafayette.

AmsterBison
September 19th, 2006, 09:01 AM
Most Wins in DI-AA (active members only)


1. Eastern Kentucky 246
2. Montana 226
3. Georgia Southern 225
4. Delaware 218
5. Grambling State 217
6. Jackson State 208
7. Northern Iowa 207
8. Lehigh 205
9. Furman 201
10. Youngstown State 200

Corrected -Jackson State was way off.

Tribe4SF
September 19th, 2006, 09:01 AM
Apples and oranges with all-time records. Since going I-AA in 1980, W&M is 175-119-2 (.596) overall. Against I-AA teams they are 169-76-2 (.690).
5-43 against I-A, and 1-0 against D-II.

AmsterBison
September 19th, 2006, 09:02 AM
Most Wins in DI-AA (active members only)

1. Jackson State 339
2. Eastern Kentucky 246
3. Montana 226
4. Georgia Southern 225
5. Delaware 218
6. Grambling State 217
7. Northern Iowa 207
8. Lehigh 205
9. Furman 201
10. Youngstown State 200

I can't vouch 100% for these numbers (they should be up-to-date as of Saturday though).

UNHWildCats
September 19th, 2006, 09:20 AM
http://www.michigan-football.com/ncaa/ncaa_1aa.htm

Listed by conference, then schools no longer with active football then adjusted rankings including postseason play in order for all active I-AA schools.

As for California-Davis. I understand the people of UC-Davis prefer the later name, and I know some people here have argued thats the proper name, but this site uses California-Davis, and to me thats the proper use. As for California-Los Angeles, yes thats its proper name just as UNH is New Hampshire and UNI is Northern Iowa and USC is Southern California.

Gordon Shumway
September 19th, 2006, 09:45 AM
While showing all-time records is cook, it seems like the DI-AA recordbook should have a section on records while a team was part of DI-AA.

Best Winning percentages while members of DI-AA
Active members only, minimum 100 games

01. Dayton .823 (116-25-0)
02. Georgia Southern .765 (225-69-0)
03. Duquesne .746 (106-36-0)
04. Eastern Kentucky .724 (246-93-2)
05. Hampton .708 (92-38-0)
06. Delaware .689 (218-98-1)
07. Furman .684 (201-92-4)
08. Northern Iowa .682 (207-96-2)
09. Pennsylvania .676 (160-76-2)
10. Grambling State .67 (217-106-4)
11. Montana .658 (226-117-1)
12. Appalachian State .656 (190-99-2)
13. Lehigh .645 (205-112-4)
14. Jackson State .64 (339-188-11)
15. Hofstra .638 (96-54-2)
16. Youngstown State .632 (200-116-3)
17. Robert Morris .617 (76-47-1)
18. William & Mary .613 (170-107-2)
19. McNeese State .606 (172-111-6)
20. Southern .602 (194-128-3)
21. New Hampshire .598 (183-122-5)
22. Wagner .593 (83-57-0)
23. Drake .593 (117-80-1)
24. South Carolina State .591 (190-131-2)
25. San Diego .588 (80-56-0)
26. Florida A&M .588 (192-134-3)
27. Monmouth (NJ) .587 (61-43-0)
28. Villanova .586 (129-91-1)
29. Eastern Illinois .585 (171-121-2)
30. Portland State .576 (72-53-0)

Maybe I am being a little picky here, but Jackson State has been pretty busy since 1978:D

lucchesicourt
September 19th, 2006, 09:45 AM
Cal Davis is NOT proper. You will NOT see this term used by any member of UC Davis or on UC Davis' website. It is just like calling UNH Columbia University. That would be wrong and so is Cal Davis. If this site started calling your school by an improper name would that make it right? I think not. Just because 99% of the people call you by the WRONG name does NOT make it right, Steve.

lucchesicourt
September 19th, 2006, 09:46 AM
I used the name Steve in reference to the movie Multiplicity.

Ronbo
September 19th, 2006, 09:51 AM
Well since Montana was a doormat in the old Pac 10, called the Pacific Coast Conference for 25 years, and then in the Skyline Conference (Utah, BYU, Colorado, Colorado State, New Mexico, Etc.) for another 10 years. We've had a lot of catching up to do to just get above .500. LOL

RadMann
September 19th, 2006, 09:53 AM
Percentages have more meaning since not all current I-AA members joined at the same time. UD, Youngstown and others were still in division II for a few years when division II was similar in strength to I-AA.....

AmsterBison
September 19th, 2006, 09:59 AM
Maybe I am being a little picky here, but Jackson State has been pretty busy since 1978:D

Hehe, be as picky as you want... that's obviously wrong. Jackson State hasn't won that many games. Anybody know a good source for all-time SWAC scores so I can get that straightened out?

UNHWildCats
September 19th, 2006, 10:15 AM
UC Davis or UCD are acceptble short forms.

MarkCCU
September 19th, 2006, 10:21 AM
well now...

AmsterBison
September 19th, 2006, 11:19 AM
Looks like Jackson State's correct record as a DI-AA school is 208-113-6.

bluehenbillk
September 19th, 2006, 11:22 AM
This thread is irreleveant, it sure didn't help GSU & UD.

lucchesicourt
September 19th, 2006, 11:39 AM
The ONLY acceptable terms for UC Davis are:
UCD
UC Davis NOT UC-Davis, and
University of California, Davis

No others apply. Everything else is WRONG!!!!!

RadMann
September 19th, 2006, 12:17 PM
You guys are sensitive about your name... ;)

89Hen
September 19th, 2006, 12:21 PM
Most Wins in DI-AA (active members only)

1. Jackson State 339
Uhhh, I don't think JSU has averaged 12 wins a year for 28 years.

89Hen
September 19th, 2006, 12:23 PM
The ONLY acceptable terms for UC Davis are:
UCD
UC Davis NOT UC-Davis, and
University of California, Davis

No others apply. Everything else is WRONG!!!!!
:rolleyes: Lighten up Francis.

ucdtim17
September 19th, 2006, 12:58 PM
You guys are sensitive about your name... ;)

We are sensitive when people from other schools instruct us on the proper name of our school. It's either UCD or UC Davis, or just Davis if you want. I've lived in the Bay Area my whole life before going to school in Davis and have never known it as anything but UC Davis, just like UCLA, UCSD, UCSF, etc. Why out of state people and media outlets insist on calling us Cal-Davis I'll never know, but it is annoying

JoltinJoe
September 19th, 2006, 01:01 PM
Uhhh, I don't think JSU has averaged 12 wins a year for 28 years.

Something's definitely wrong. According to the NCAA Record Book, Jackson State has 384 total wins in 60 years of play. So 339 of them came in the last 28 years?

89Hen
September 19th, 2006, 01:18 PM
We are sensitive when people from other schools instruct us on the proper name of our school. It's either UCD or UC Davis, or just Davis if you want. I've lived in the Bay Area my whole life before going to school in Davis and have never known it as anything but UC Davis, just like UCLA, UCSD, UCSF, etc. Why out of state people and media outlets insist on calling us Cal-Davis I'll never know, but it is annoying
People are going to call you what they want to call you. Is being called Cal-Davis so awful? The only think I can liken it to is Mrs89 went to UVA. They get all bent out of shape when you call things the wrong name, ie. their campus. Heaven forbid you actually refer to it as a 'campus'. Any UVA person will quickly remind you that it's called the "Grounds". THAT is annoying. So much so that I now insist on using the term 'campus' as much as I can around her and other UVA grads.

I've mostly used UC-D to abbreviate the University of California, Davis but now I think Cal Davis is going to be it... maybe Comma Davis. :p

HiHiYikas
September 19th, 2006, 01:31 PM
The ONLY acceptable terms for UC Davis are:
UCD
UC Davis NOT UC-Davis, and
University of California, Davis

No others apply. Everything else is WRONG!!!!!
from http://www.resourcemanual.appstate.edu/printingandpub/policy.htm

Name of the University - The first reference in any manuscript or publication should always be to "Appalachian State University." After that, "Appalachian" or the "University" may be used. References such as "ASU," "App State," and "Appy State" are prohibited.

This coming from a website named APPSTATE.edu. The moral of the story (as 89 said before I even noticed) - "Lighten up, Francis."

89Hen
September 19th, 2006, 01:36 PM
See, Appy State fans are on board. :p ;)

Retro
September 19th, 2006, 01:37 PM
http://tommcmahon.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/hulka.jpg

HiHiYikas
September 19th, 2006, 01:52 PM
Incidentally "Appy State" (In those days we were probably still going by something like Watauga College) was 91-38-14 before 1945 (.636), winning 3 North State Conference championships. Between 1936 and 1939 we went 32-4-3, outscoring opponents 1034-84. Those were good years for us.

melloAggiesousa
September 19th, 2006, 02:12 PM
Re: U C Davis

As an old Aggie, I like "Cal-Aggies"! We're certainly a better ag school than the one in College Station, Texas...we've got the no. 1 Viticulture and Enology department in the world, and a world-class Fermentation Science department to boot! What more could you want?

I also like the block CA logo...less trendy than the Denver Broncos-esque current logo, and stands up better over time. Also easier to draw, and paint on...oops...nevermind...

OL FU
September 19th, 2006, 02:24 PM
OK I have to ask and I am sure it has been explained before.

Is there any difference in the type of school being a "UC" or a "Cal"?

oldSLOguy
September 19th, 2006, 02:29 PM
The ONLY acceptable terms for UC Davis are:
UCD
UC Davis NOT UC-Davis, and
University of California, Davis

No others apply. Everything else is WRONG!!!!!

Some one needs to tell the folks at the alumni association about this!!! My son-in-law's license plate frame says "Cal Aggie Alumni"

OL FU
September 19th, 2006, 02:32 PM
Some one needs to tell the folks at the alumni association about this!!! My son-in-law's license plate frame says "Cal Aggie Alumni"


Great User Name. :nod:

Russ B
September 19th, 2006, 02:34 PM
OL FU, it's all the same Univeristy of California system. The Berkeley campus is the only one that refers to themselves as "Cal" though, the rest of the campuses are UC [location].

oldSLOguy
September 19th, 2006, 02:35 PM
Great User Name. :nod:
Thanks, I'm new to this site, but I like the folks on it!! Good fun!

Russ B
September 19th, 2006, 02:36 PM
Some one needs to tell the folks at the alumni association about this!!! My son-in-law's license plate frame says "Cal Aggie Alumni"

It's the Cal Aggie Marching Band-uh!, too. But the school is still UC Davis. :)

ucdtim17
September 19th, 2006, 02:36 PM
Some one needs to tell the folks at the alumni association about this!!! My son-in-law's license plate frame says "Cal Aggie Alumni"

The alumni association is the Cal Aggie Alumni Association and the band is the Cal Aggie Marching Band-uh - those are the only two campus-affiliated organizations using "Cal Aggie" I think. Notice there is no "Cal-Davis" anywhere

OL FU
September 19th, 2006, 02:38 PM
OL FU, it's all the same Univeristy of California system. The Berkeley campus is the only one that refers to themselves as "Cal" though, the rest of the campuses are UC [location].

Then what about Poly. I guess because is it really California Polytechnical...... right

And then you have to add in the States......Like Cal State Fullerton. .. :nod:

ucdtim17
September 19th, 2006, 02:41 PM
OK I have to ask and I am sure it has been explained before.

Is there any difference in the type of school being a "UC" or a "Cal"?

As previously explained, Berkeley is the only "Cal" UC school. Out of state folks sometimes confuse the UC system and the CSU system. Just because Cal Poly is Cal Poly does not mean that we are Cal Davis. Poly is not a place. Davis is. Cal Poly is a CSU (albeit the best) and that is the common name for the university. UCD is a UC school and is called UC Davis, just like all the other campuses, save Berkeley, are called UC [location]

Russ B
September 19th, 2006, 02:41 PM
Cal Poly (both of them) and the state schools are a different system, though. Though I guess that was part of OL FU's question.

Quick rundown:
UC system: UC [location] and "Cal" aka Berkeley
CSU system: Cal State [location] or [location] State, plus the two Cal Poly campuses, SLO and Pomona.

Some of the CSU schools are confusing because they use a CSU abbreviation (like CSUS) but a [location] State name (Sacramento State).

OL FU
September 19th, 2006, 02:45 PM
I shall repeat to make sure I have it.

All the UC schools are part of the UC system using location as the ending nomenclature except for Berkeley which is California, Cal or Berkeley.

The California State schools are a different system and Cal Poly is a part of that different system.

do I have it?

OL FU
September 19th, 2006, 02:45 PM
Cal Poly (both of them) and the state schools are a different system, though. Though I guess that was part of OL FU's question.

Quick rundown:
UC system: UC [location] and "Cal" aka Berkeley
CSU system: Cal State [location] or [location] State, plus the two Cal Poly campuses, SLO and Pomona.

Some of the CSU schools are confusing because they use a CSU abbreviation (like CSUS) but a [location] State name (Sacramento State).

Your rundown was better:nod:

ucdtim17
September 19th, 2006, 02:46 PM
I shall repeat to make sure I have it.

All the UC schools are part of the UC system using location as the ending nomenclature except for Berkeley which is California, Cal or Berkeley.

The California State schools are a different system and Cal Poly is a part of that different system.

do I have it?

exactly

OL FU
September 19th, 2006, 02:47 PM
exactly

Thanks , see dumb southern boys can be learned:smiley_wi

OldAggieAlum
September 19th, 2006, 06:57 PM
Well, just to muddle matters, there is the California Maritime Academy. They have been around for a long time (since 1929), but became part of the California State University (CSU) system in 1995. They call themselves "Cal Maritime" even though they are part of the CSU system. The naming convention is similar to Cal Poly, although the name predates joining the CSU system. They don't compete in football, but do play other intercollegiate sports. Their training ship is called the "Golden Bear", which of course is the same name as Cal's mascot.

89Hen
September 20th, 2006, 08:23 AM
As Out of state folks sometimes confuse the UC system and the CSU system. Just because Cal Poly is Cal Poly does not mean that we are Cal Davis. Poly is not a place. Davis is. Cal Poly is a CSU (albeit the best) and that is the common name for the university. UCD is a UC school and is called UC Davis, just like all the other campuses, save Berkeley, are called UC [location]
To you Californians it's probably very clear, but I hope you can see why people outside of CA have problems with what to call you. Names like Cal State Fullerton don't help your cause. Many people see them on TV in the baseball tourney and are familiar with their name. Also, I have actually heard people say "Cal Berkeley". Not often, but I have heard it. Is "Cal Davis" such a horrible name or insult? You are a 'Cal' and you are in Davis.

ucdtim17
September 20th, 2006, 11:04 AM
To you Californians it's probably very clear, but I hope you can see why people outside of CA have problems with what to call you. Names like Cal State Fullerton don't help your cause. Many people see them on TV in the baseball tourney and are familiar with their name. Also, I have actually heard people say "Cal Berkeley". Not often, but I have heard it. Is "Cal Davis" such a horrible name or insult? You are a 'Cal' and you are in Davis.

With Berkeley being what it is, perhaps the most prestigious public school in the world, and the rest of the UC campuses, all amongst the top public schools in the country, it seems fair to me to expect everyone here, presumably college-educated, to have a bare minimum of understanding of at least the correct name for the schools. "Cal Davis" is not horrible, but it is wrong and it is insulting in that regard, much in the same way I'm sure it'd be if people started calling you "Delaware-Newark" or "Del-Newark." You are the University of Delaware and you are in Newark, but it is still wrong.

89Hen
September 20th, 2006, 11:24 AM
it seems fair to me to expect everyone here, presumably college-educated, to have a bare minimum of understanding of at least the correct name for the schools. "Cal Davis" is not horrible, but it is wrong and it is insulting in that regard, much in the same way I'm sure it'd be if people started calling you "Delaware-Newark" or "Del-Newark." You are the University of Delaware and you are in Newark, but it is still wrong.
I just think you are overreacting. If people started called Delaware: UD-N or Del Newark or whatever... big deal. I've heard people say UD and UofD, who gives a crap which one is correct or which one they use?

To everyone outside of the University of California, Davis family the difference between UC Davis and Cal Davis is non-existent. If they called you Cal Light or UC Junior, etc... I could see you really caring. But, good luck with this endeavor. :thumbsup:

GO COMMMA DAVIS! :hurray:

OL FU
September 21st, 2006, 06:47 AM
I just think you are overreacting. If people started called Delaware: UD-N or Del Newark or whatever... big deal. I've heard people say UD and UofD, who gives a crap which one is correct or which one they use?

To everyone outside of the University of California, Davis family the difference between UC Davis and Cal Davis is non-existent. If they called you Cal Light or UC Junior, etc... I could see you really caring. But, good luck with this endeavor. :thumbsup:

GO COMMMA DAVIS! :hurray:

It also makes a lot of difference when a state has two or four or six major state colleges versus.................how many does California have?

HensRock
September 21st, 2006, 08:15 AM
I fail to see the big deal.
It's easier to say "Cal-Davis" than it is to say "UC Davis". It's one less syllable and rolls off the tongue more easily. It's not meant as an insult (as the UCD fans seem to take it).

I've also never understood Appalachian State fans' similar reaction to being called "Appy State". It's just an abbreviated nickname and rolls of the tongue more naturally than "Appalachian State" or even "App State" (at least to me).

I don't think you'll find University of Massachusetts fans being upset at being called UMass. Do you think they started calling it that themselves? Probably not. It's just what everybody started calling it because Massachusetts was a lot longer. Instead of resisting it - they embraced it and adopted it. It's just so natural.

People call Delaware UDel all the time. I don't get bent out of shape over it. It sounds natural and I know what they are refering to. So what's the big deal?

UDel
UConn
UMass
UVM (Vermont - don't really understand that one, but they use it)
'Cuse for Syracuse
"Cal Poly" instead of California Polytechnical State University, San Louis Obispo (I can understand why they don't want to use the full name there - phew!)
"Valpo" for Valparaiso

None of these are "right". But they are all used, sometimes even by the university themselves.

lucchesicourt
September 21st, 2006, 08:42 AM
The problem is the word "Cal" refers to another school system entirely (except for Cal Berkeley who furst started the use of the word "Cal" for California). "Cal" refers to state system where UC refers to the University of California system- two distinctly separate systems.
It would be like calling UCLA, Cal Los Angeles and they are NOT the same schools, If there was ONLY one school system it would not be such a big deal.

lucchesicourt
September 21st, 2006, 08:44 AM
Also, it seems no one happens to complain about calling UCLA by its name. So, maybe use UCD since it is one sylable shorter than UCLA. Shouldn't be a problem.

lucchesicourt
September 21st, 2006, 08:56 AM
A quote from the UC Davis website:

"WHAT'S IN A NAME"
• With the transition to Division I comes more attention from national media and, as a result, more media outlets referring to UC Davis in a number of different manners.Simply, the university is either "UC Davis" or "University of California, Davis". • Incorrect references we have seen in media outlets: California-Davis, Cal-Davis, U.C. Davis, Cal St. Davis, Davis State and U.C.-Davis... A new one spotted last season was U-C Davis... An new moniker noticed on a luggage tag last week at Montana State was "U-C David"... Wow. • The Aggies thank you for helping them make a new name for themselves on the field only.

89Hen
September 21st, 2006, 09:08 AM
The problem is the word "Cal" refers to another school system entirely (except for Cal Berkeley who furst started the use of the word "Cal" for California). "Cal" refers to state system where UC refers to the University of California system- two distinctly separate systems.
So you're saying the Bears are really Cal State Berkeley? :confused:

lucchesicourt
September 21st, 2006, 10:45 AM
No, if you READ, my first post, I said UC Berkeley being the EXCEPTION, as they were the FIRST University in the state public system. There were NO California state universities at the time. Hence, Cal or California Golden bears.

OL FU
September 21st, 2006, 10:48 AM
I think what it comes down to is it matters to California people because the two different systems matter to California people.

I think you should correct the rest of us when we get it wrong but not get upset about it since most of us mean no harm.

It is a little like correcting people who type Iaa:smiley_wi unless your name is Ralph:D

ucdtim17
September 21st, 2006, 10:48 AM
I fail to see the big deal.
It's easier to say "Cal-Davis" than it is to say "UC Davis". It's one less syllable and rolls off the tongue more easily. It's not meant as an insult (as the UCD fans seem to take it).


I know most of the time it's not meant as an insult, but the mere fact that it is wrong and people don't make the effort to get it right is insulting. Hopefully this problem will continue to lessen as we become more familiar to national I-AA people and national media outlets - I would hope the people here would make the very minimal effort to get it right.

OL FU
September 21st, 2006, 10:49 AM
I know most of the time it's not meant as an insult, but the mere fact that it is wrong and people don't make the effort to get it right is insulting. Hopefully this problem will continue to lessen as we become more familiar to national I-AA people and national media outlets - I would hope the people here would make the very minimal effort to get it right.


:nod: It is posted on my refrigerator door:nod:

ucdtim17
September 21st, 2006, 10:52 AM
It is a little like correcting people who type Iaa:smiley_wi unless your name is Ralph:D


Thank you - that's a good comparison. Everyone here hates being called D2, or when people refer to I-A schools as Division I. They often don't mean it as an insult, but it's insulting to everyone here because it's wrong and they don't make an effort to get it right. Same sorta thing

crunifan
September 21st, 2006, 10:54 AM
I can understand how the UC Davis fans feel. Nothing pisses off a UNI fan more than being called NIU.:bang:

OL FU
September 21st, 2006, 10:56 AM
Thank you - that's a good comparison. Everyone here hates being called D2, or when people refer to I-A schools as Division I. They often don't mean it as an insult, but it's insulting to everyone here because it's wrong and they don't make an effort to get it right. Same sorta thing

MMMMM, not quite what I meant but I understand where you are coming from. The comparison I was making was people that know we are I-AA, but type it 1aa or Iaa of Daa. Not quite as serious as thinking we are DII.

The important thing is I know who you are. UC Davidson

Just kidding, the frustration will disappear because the more you win the more people will get it right. and you are definitely winning.

89Hen
September 21st, 2006, 11:16 AM
No, if you READ, my first post, I said UC Berkeley being the EXCEPTION, as they were the FIRST University in the state public system. There were NO California state universities at the time. Hence, Cal or California Golden bears.
Then how does "Cal" refer to the state system? Because they say Cal State...? IMO it's the "STATE" portion of Cal State that refers to the state system. Again, you have to remebmer that you are greatly outnumbered here (people that live in Cali and people that don't) and when you say 'Cal' to a person outside of California, they think the University of California system and when you say 'Cal State' they think of the California State system. So saying Cal Davis means the U system to everyone outside of California. I could see being upset if people said Cal State Davis or Davis State... where's that dead horse avatar?

GO COMMA DAVIS!!!

Russ B
September 21st, 2006, 11:44 AM
I would hope the people here would make the very minimal effort to get it right.

Indeed.

Russ B
September 21st, 2006, 11:47 AM
Again, you have to remebmer that you are greatly outnumbered here (people that live in Cali and people that don't) and when you say 'Cal' to a person outside of California, they think the University of California system and when you say 'Cal State' they think of the California State system.

I bet that most people outside CA don't realize that Berkeley ("Cal") and UCLA are in the same university system, actually.

smarterray
September 21st, 2006, 12:16 PM
where's that dead horse avatar?


:deadhorse:

OrneryAggie
September 21st, 2006, 12:48 PM
It'd be a whole lot easier if our initials were 'FU.'

Seriously, Cal Davis doesn't bother me but officially such a place doesn't exist. There are Cal Aggies but they came from UCDavis, not Cal-Davis.

I liken it to saying Tex-College Station or Texas A&M-Austin. Or how about Fla-Tallahassee.

Henceforth I prefer people refer to UCD as 'TTWJKYTA' - The Team Who Just Kicked Your Team's Ass.

OL FU
September 21st, 2006, 01:01 PM
It'd be a whole lot easier if our initials were 'FU.'

Seriously, Cal Davis doesn't bother me but officially such a place doesn't exist. There are Cal Aggies but they came from UCDavis, not Cal-Davis.

I liken it to saying Tex-College Station or Texas A&M-Austin. Or how about Fla-Tallahassee.

Henceforth I prefer people refer to UCD as 'TTWJKYTA' - The Team Who Just Kicked Your Team's Ass.

:nod: on the first sentence andxlolx :nod: on the last.:D

Tailbone
September 21st, 2006, 01:11 PM
It'd be a whole lot easier if our initials were 'FU.'

Seriously, Cal Davis doesn't bother me but officially such a place doesn't exist. There are Cal Aggies but they came from UCDavis, not Cal-Davis.

I liken it to saying Tex-College Station or Texas A&M-Austin. Or how about Fla-Tallahassee.

Henceforth I prefer people refer to UCD as 'TTWJKYTA' - The Team Who Just Kicked Your Team's Ass.

UF Davis?
UF Davisville?
FU Davis?
FU Davisville?
Cal Davis?
Cal Davisville?
UC Davis?
UC Davisville?

Cal-UC-Davis-university farm-Davisville-TEOTWAWKI? :confused:

Mr. C
September 21st, 2006, 01:22 PM
So you're saying the Bears are really Cal State Berkeley? :confused:
How many times must we explain this? It's starting to be like the people who can't get I-AA straight. The University of California at Berkeley is a part of the UC system, not the Cal State system. Some of the UC schools are UC Berkeley (or Cal, or California, because it was the first one — you wouldn't want Delaware refered to as Del State-Newark would you?), UCLA, UC Santa Barbara (or UCSB), UC Irvine (UCI) and UC Davis, to name a few. Cal States include Fresno State, Sacramento State, Cal State Fullerton, Cal State Bakersfield, Long Beach State and quite a few more. Why is it so hard to call a school what it wants to be called?

UNHWildCats
September 21st, 2006, 01:26 PM
It'd be a whole lot easier if our initials were 'FU.'

Seriously, Cal Davis doesn't bother me but officially such a place doesn't exist. There are Cal Aggies but they came from UCDavis, not Cal-Davis.

I liken it to saying Tex-College Station or Texas A&M-Austin. Or how about Fla-Tallahassee.

Henceforth I prefer people refer to UCD as 'TTWJKYTA' - The Team Who Just Kicked Your Team's Ass.

:nono: :nono: :nono: :nono:

New Hampshire 17, University of California, Davis 13

xcoffeex

OL FU
September 21st, 2006, 01:27 PM
How many times must we explain this? It's starting to be like the people who can't get I-AA straight. The University of California at Berkeley is a part of the UC system, not the Cal State system. Some of the UC schools are UC Berkeley (or Cal, or California, because it was the first one — you wouldn't want Delaware refered to as Del State-Newark would you?), UCLA, UC Santa Barbara (or UCSB), UC Irvine (UCI) and UC Davis, to name a few. Cal States include Fresno State, Sacramento State, Cal State Fullerton, Cal State Bakersfield, Long Beach State and quite a few more. Why is it so hard to call a school what it wants to be called?


How does Fresno State fit in?

Russ B
September 21st, 2006, 01:35 PM
They don't...nobody likes them.

(They are in the CSU system.)

RadMann
September 21st, 2006, 03:25 PM
Getting the name right is important. Sometimes I'll hear someone refer to "Delaware University" when they mean UD and there is no such school name, or at least it is not the same place as The University of Delaware. The California system can be a bit confusing to outsiders because the darn state is so big. Jeez, the County of Los Angeles has more people than a lot of eastern states....

AggiePride
September 21st, 2006, 06:12 PM
Jesus... not this debate again...

89Hen
September 21st, 2006, 07:36 PM
I bet that most people outside CA don't realize that Berkeley ("Cal") and UCLA are in the same university system, actually.
I think you would be correct. :nod:

89Hen
September 21st, 2006, 07:39 PM
How many times must we explain this? It's starting to be like the people who can't get I-AA straight. The University of California at Berkeley is a part of the UC system, not the Cal State system.
That was my whole point DC. The poster was trying to say that the name "Cal" other than Cal Berkeley had a designation as one of the Cal State schools. It just isn't true. The name "Cal" doesn't mean state, the name "State" does.

UNHWildCats
September 21st, 2006, 07:43 PM
California-Berkeley and California-Los Angelas

seems logical that they would be from the same system.

Mr. C
September 21st, 2006, 08:30 PM
California-Berkeley and California-Los Angelas

seems logical that they would be from the same system.
California-Los Angeles would confusing because there are TWO universities in Los Angeles. UCLA is the UC campus in LA. California State University, Los Angeles, or Los Angeles State as it was know at one time when it was Division I, is the state university in LA.

OldAggieAlum
September 21st, 2006, 08:48 PM
The same applies to San Francisco and San Diego. They both have campuses of both systems, although UC San Francisco has never competed in sports (Med. School only), and the state school in San Diego calls itself San Diego State. I'm not sure whether San Francisco State has changed its name to CSU San Francisco.

Then of course there are the private schools in each of those cities, University of San Francisco and University of San Diego (which UC Davis plays later this year).

OldAggieAlum
September 21st, 2006, 08:51 PM
It's tough enough keeping up with all the real University names and name changes in California without people making up new ones besides.

Mr. C
September 21st, 2006, 10:28 PM
The same applies to San Francisco and San Diego. They both have campuses of both systems, although UC San Francisco has never competed in sports (Med. School only), and the state school in San Diego calls itself San Diego State. I'm not sure whether San Francisco State has changed its name to CSU San Francisco.

Then of course there are the private schools in each of those cities, University of San Francisco and University of San Diego (which UC Davis plays later this year).
As far as I know Division II San Francisco State is still San Francisco State for media purposes. Of course the private University of San Francisco (the USF Dons) is the most famous, because of its basketball tradition. All of the Cal State schools are OFFICIALLY California State University, Whatever (even my diploma from Fresno State says California State University, Fresno).

San Diego is the most confusing place of all for getting the names of schoools correct. You have San Diego State (I-A school in ths CS system), UC San Diego (Division II, they are in the UC system) and then you have the private school, the University of San Diego — the school we in I-AA know and love as the Torreros. Those three get mixed up in the media all of the time.

Mr. C
September 21st, 2006, 10:40 PM
Just took a peak at my 2006 NCAA Division II Membership Report and it lists as members of the California Collegiate Athletic Association: San Franscisco State, UC San Diego, Cal Poly Pomona, Cal State Chico (Party On, Dudes!), Cal State Dominguez Hills, Cal State Los Angeles, Cal State San Bernardino, Cal State Stanislaus, (ever so humble) Humboldt State, Sonoma State and new member Cal State Monterey Bay. I think they missed Cal State Bakersfield.

ucdtim17
September 22nd, 2006, 12:03 AM
I think they missed Cal State Bakersfield.


CSUB is going DI independent

Russ B
September 22nd, 2006, 12:19 AM
Just took a peak at my 2006 NCAA Division II Membership Report and it lists as members of the California Collegiate Athletic Association: San Franscisco State, UC San Diego, Cal Poly Pomona, Cal State Chico (Party On, Dudes!), Cal State Dominguez Hills, Cal State Los Angeles, Cal State San Bernardino, Cal State Stanislaus, (ever so humble) Humboldt State, Sonoma State and new member Cal State Monterey Bay. I think they missed Cal State Bakersfield.

Did Hayward aka CSU East Bay drop all their sports?

star2city
September 22nd, 2006, 12:42 AM
San Diego is the most confusing place of all for getting the names of schoools correct. You have San Diego State (I-A school in ths CS system), UC San Diego (Division II, they are in the UC system) and then you have the private school, the University of San Diego — the school we in I-AA know and love as the Torreros. Those three get mixed up in the media all of the time.

For added confusion, throw in San Diego City College and San Diego Mesa College.

BTW, isn't UC San Diego considering a move to DI?

OL FU
September 22nd, 2006, 06:54 AM
I think Furman's win percentage looks low:rolleyes: :eyebrow: :eyebrow: :o xlolx

UNHWildCats
September 22nd, 2006, 07:23 AM
I think Furman's win percentage looks low:rolleyes: :eyebrow: :eyebrow: :o xlolx

70 posts later and someone finally took it back to what the thread was about. :hurray: :hurray: :hurray: :hurray: :hurray: :hurray: :hurray: :thumbsup:

JoltinJoe
September 22nd, 2006, 07:52 AM
70 posts later and someone finally took it back to what the thread was about. :hurray: :hurray: :hurray: :hurray: :hurray: :hurray: :hurray: :thumbsup:

Huh?

Isn't this a thread about the Cal State-Davis Aggies? ;)

MACHIAVELLI
September 22nd, 2006, 08:47 AM
I wonder what the rankings would look like if they were calculated when teams starting playing DIAA ball.

ucdtim17
September 22nd, 2006, 10:46 AM
For added confusion, throw in San Diego City College and San Diego Mesa College.

BTW, isn't UC San Diego considering a move to DI?


People talk about it because it's a huge research school like Davis (smaller though), but I don't think that idea has ever gained any traction. I think they like the fact that athletics is much much lower on the totem pole there than academics

SF State Gaters
August 30th, 2011, 04:16 AM
Okay, i like this thread so much and want more of it, even though it is very old. I get non-californians' confusion with their consternation over their nomination, but what I've always missed is, why let your peer institution brand themselves "Cal" as lord over all others? UC berkeley should be called UCB or UC berkeley along the same conventions as the rest of the UC's; granting them "Cal" grants them an undue nominational power over their peers.

Bam
August 30th, 2011, 08:44 AM
Most Wins in DI-AA (active members only)


1. Eastern Kentucky 246
2. Montana 226
3. Georgia Southern 225
4. Delaware 218
5. Grambling State 217
6. Jackson State 208
7. Northern Iowa 207
8. Lehigh 205
9. Furman 201
10. Youngstown State 200

Corrected -Jackson State was way off.

xazzx

813Jag
August 30th, 2011, 08:50 AM
http://www.rooney.org/tlc/silly/holy%20thread%20resurrection.jpg

edit: anybody have an updated list?

appfan2008
August 30th, 2011, 10:06 AM
now this is going way way back... things may have changed a bit since this was created!

StorminASU
August 30th, 2011, 10:16 AM
http://www.rooney.org/tlc/silly/holy%20thread%20resurrection.jpg

edit: anybody have an updated list?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0UJaprpxrk

This seemed appropriate. Oh what we did before CGI

Grizzaholic
August 30th, 2011, 10:22 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0UJaprpxrk

This seemed appropriate. Oh what we did before CGI

Actually think up a plot and make a movie by filming actual actors. Weird huh?

813Jag
August 30th, 2011, 10:24 AM
Actually think up a plot and make a movie by filming actual actors. Weird huh?

what fun is that? xlolx

andy7171
August 30th, 2011, 10:27 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0UJaprpxrk

This seemed appropriate. Oh what we did before CGI

Fantastic find! I loved that show!

alvinkayak6
August 30th, 2011, 11:05 AM
Trying to figure out Batman's relevance..

Bam
August 30th, 2011, 11:09 AM
Trying to figure out Batman's relevance..

Not Batman, but this man:

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M Ruler
August 30th, 2011, 11:33 AM
I liked the episode with the Cake made out of quicksand that Batman & Robin sank in myself.


Oh right Football thread.


Try being called SUNY Albany...now thats annoying!!!