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Ronbo
September 11th, 2006, 10:52 PM
Montana played 20 freshmen and 7 seniors in the South Dakota State game. We're losing 9 seniors after this season, 6 are starters.

McNeese75
September 11th, 2006, 10:59 PM
I think we have 11 seniors on the 2 deep

youwouldno
September 11th, 2006, 11:07 PM
Furman has 5 senior starters. No other seniors on the 2-deep. However, Furman typically graduates a couple redshirt juniors.

One thing for Furman fans to keep in mind is that, objectively speaking, it's a bit of a rebuilding year in Greenville. 24 of the 44 players on the 2-deep are freshmen or sophomores. Every aspect of both the offense and defense rely heavily on younger players. Hopefully things come together this year, but there should be a window between 2007-2009 to bring home the title that probably should have happened in '04 or '05.

Go Lehigh TU owl
September 11th, 2006, 11:08 PM
Not pretty for Lehigh, in fact i've never seen anything like this, atleast the secondary is young :o ..

Offense
OT-Jr
OG- Sr.
C- Sr.
OG- Sr.
OT- Sr.
TE- Sr.
WR-Sr.
WR- Sr. .
FB- Sr.
RB- Sr.
QB- Jr.

Defense
DE- Sr.
NT- Sr.
DE- Sr.
LB- Sr.
LB- Sr.
LB- Sr.
LB- Sr.
CB- Jr.
CB- Jr.
S- Sr.
FS- Jr.

Henny
September 11th, 2006, 11:21 PM
UD does not start a Sr. on offense (other than Ben Partick will play a big role when he is completly healthy which should be for the UNH game on 9/30.

I think we start 6 Seniors on D. - only a couple in the two deep.

Coastal89
September 11th, 2006, 11:30 PM
Coastal has

33 true seniors
8 red shirt seniors
22 juniors
25 soph.
22 freshmen

these include injured and scout squad players

mtgrizfan4life
September 12th, 2006, 02:34 AM
Great thread ronbo, surprised you left out some details.
QB- 1 sr, 1 rs so, 1 rs fr, 1 fr (should rs this year)
rb- 2 sr (1 playing, the other is Hillard-we all know he is rs this year), 2 jrs (bradshaw-louisville xfr, coleman-Iowa st xfr), 2 fr rs, 1 fr (will rs this year). If Hillard, Bradshaw, and Coleman stay healthy we will have the best depth in 1AA. It will be a 3 headed monster especially when you see how young our OL is.
WR-no sr's, Chambers, Allen, Bagley all jrs. Schulte, Troxel, Ferriter SO's, Mariani fr rs, Palmer fr rs, Kazmierczak fr (will rs),
TE's /fb/h back-4 tes all true fr or fr rs. All athletic.
OG-2 jrs, 1 so, 2 fr
OT- 1 sr, 1 jr, 2 so, 3 fr
C- 1 sr, 1 so
OL- no position given yet 3 fr.
note this does not include Quinn (xfr from OK) who is a SO. Rossum, Horn, and Quinn are all div 1A transfers.
Defensively we are deep too
DE's- 2 srs, 2 jrs (1 is rs this year), 2 SOs, 2 fr (both should rs)
DT- 1 sr, 1 jr, 3 so, 3 fr
DL- 1 fr just listed as dl, but should be a de.
LBS- 5 jrs, 3 so, 2 fr
CB- 1 Sr, 4 jrs, 2 so
S- 2 srs, 1 jr, 3 fr
DB's (no listed position)-1 so, 3 fr. The SO is Colt Anderson who is a walk on, and has worked his way into starting and is turning out to be a total STUD.
K- 1 jr, Carpenter who is now punting too thanks to an injury to our P.
P- sr (injured and should rs).
This is the best depth and talent the GRIZ have ever had. Everyone that is not RS this year will see plenty of time. Feel free to check out this link. http://wpe1.montanagrizzlies.com/fmi/xsl/mt_griz/db/roster/xsl/list.xsl?-db=mtgriz_content&-lay=content_roster_web&id_team=100&roster_bio_year=2006&flag_record_type_roster=YES&switch=YES&-sortfield.1=person_name_last&-sortorder.1=ascend&-token.2=1&-token.3=1&-token.4=1&-token.5=1&-token.6=1&-token.7=1&-token.8=0&-token.9=1&-max=all&-find
OR
http://www.montanagrizzlies.com/files/news_content/football_men/2006/06depth.pdf
The griz will only be getting better the next few years.

umassfan
September 12th, 2006, 04:34 AM
Not pretty for Lehigh, in fact i've never seen anything like this, atleast the secondary is young :o ..

Offense
OT-Jr
OG- Sr.
C- Sr.
OG- Sr.
OT- Sr.
TE- Sr.
WR-Sr.
WR- Sr. .
FB- Sr.
RB- Sr.
QB- Jr.

Defense
DE- Sr.
NT- Sr.
DE- Sr.
LB- Sr.
LB- Sr.
LB- Sr.
LB- Sr.
CB- Jr.
CB- Jr.
S- Sr.
FS- Jr.
Man will Lehigh have enough players next year to field a team... havent seen this many SR starters ever

DFW HOYA
September 12th, 2006, 06:22 AM
35 freshmen on the roster, eight seniors on the two-deep.

(Young.)

Husky Alum
September 12th, 2006, 07:12 AM
Northeastern's breakdown...

13 seniors (17%), 10 juniors (13%), 15 sophomores (20%), 15 redshirt freshmen (20%), 22 freshmen (30%).

On the two deep..

Seniors - Offense (4), Defense (5)
Juniors - Offense (2), Defense (5)
Sophomores -Offense (8), Defense (5)
RS Freshmen - Offense (8), Defense (5)
Freshmen - Offense (1), Defense (2)

There are 23 offensive players listed as we show three tight ends.

Our placekicker is a true freshman, our kickoff specialist is a redshirt freshman, and our punter is a senior.

McNeese72
September 12th, 2006, 07:57 AM
I think we have 11 seniors on the 2 deep

Looking at the depth chart from last week, only six of the starters were seniors.

Doc

TexasTerror
September 12th, 2006, 07:59 AM
10 fr/so on the offensive two deep...
12 jr/sr on the offensive two deep...

6 fr/so on defensive two deep...
16 jr/sr on defensive two deep...

4 jr/sr on special teams two deep...
3 fr/so on special teams two deep...

Calif_Colonial
September 12th, 2006, 08:39 PM
120 players on the roster. 46 Freshman

We started 10 freshman on Saturday. Plus 10 sophmores and juniors that never started and or played before.

We have 30 retuning lettermen on the team.

fuEMO
September 12th, 2006, 10:11 PM
A Furman fan has to be crazy to not be excited about the future.

Furman Defense by class
Starters:
3 Seniors
6 Juniors
1 Soph
1 Freshman
Backups:
0 Seniors
1 Junior
8 Sophs
7 Freshmen

The offense is very similar we are rotating 2 tighends, 5 receivers, and 8 olinemen.
Starters:
3 Seniors
6 Juniors
1 Sophs
1 Freshman
Backups:
1 Senior
2 Juniors
3 Sophs
7 Freshmen

Mountaineer
September 12th, 2006, 10:13 PM
A Furman fan has to be crazy to not be excited about the future.

Furman Defense by class
Starters:
3 Seniors
6 Juniors
1 Soph
1 Freshman
Backups:
0 Seniors
1 Junior
8 Sophs
7 Freshmen

The offense is very similar we are rotating 2 tighends, 5 receivers, and 8 olinemen.
Starters:
3 Seniors
6 Juniors
1 Sophs
1 Freshman
Backups:
1 Senior
2 Juniors
3 Sophs
7 Freshmen

:bawling: :bawling: :bawling: :bawling:

Dallas Demon
September 12th, 2006, 10:20 PM
Only 7 seniors on the team. Most are freshmen and sophomores.

Tod
September 12th, 2006, 10:24 PM
A Furman fan has to be crazy to not be excited about the future.

Furman Defense by class
Starters:
3 Seniors
6 Juniors
1 Soph
1 Freshman
Backups:
0 Seniors
1 Junior
8 Sophs
7 Freshmen

The offense is very similar we are rotating 2 tighends, 5 receivers, and 8 olinemen.
Starters:
3 Seniors
6 Juniors
1 Sophs
1 Freshman
Backups:
1 Senior
2 Juniors
3 Sophs
7 Freshmen

I've recently read from some Furman fan that FU is a very young team. Six senior starters and 12 junior starters doesn't seem that young to me. Seems like the only thing that can really hurt FU is a lot of injuries. Lots of upper-classmen on this team.

ngineer
September 12th, 2006, 10:43 PM
Not pretty for Lehigh, in fact i've never seen anything like this, atleast the secondary is young :o ..

Offense
OT-Jr
OG- Sr.
C- Sr.
OG- Sr.
OT- Sr.
TE- Sr.
WR-Sr.
WR- Sr. .
FB- Sr.
RB- Sr.
QB- Jr.

Defense
DE- Sr.
NT- Sr.
DE- Sr.
LB- Sr.
LB- Sr.
LB- Sr.
LB- Sr.
CB- Jr.
CB- Jr.
S- Sr.
FS- Jr.

Not really as bad as it appears. We're rotating a lot of underclassmen during the course of the game. While the two 'starters' in the backfield are seniors, McGowan, Pastore, and Piascik are all back next year. Similarly, several underclassmen are rotating on both OL and DL. Plus, I'm not sure if Trovato has another year--he was listed as a Junior in the program.

youwouldno
September 12th, 2006, 11:28 PM
I've recently read from some Furman fan that FU is a very young team. Six senior starters and 12 junior starters doesn't seem that young to me. Seems like the only thing that can really hurt FU is a lot of injuries. Lots of upper-classmen on this team.

It's true there are a lot of juniors if not a ton of seniors. I think the big thing is the quality of the younger players, many of whom are seeing game action now (About 45 Paladins are seeing snaps either on O or D). There are a lot of really, really good sophs, R-Fr's, and freshmen. OLs Bell, Haynes, WRs Webb, Mims, QBs Sorrells, Worley, RBs LaFrance, Brown... tons of athleticism and skill, same on D.

Next year's team will have more senior starters but the talent is there to avoid a rebuilding period after they graduate.

OL FU
September 13th, 2006, 06:49 AM
I've recently read from some Furman fan that FU is a very young team. Six senior starters and 12 junior starters doesn't seem that young to me. Seems like the only thing that can really hurt FU is a lot of injuries. Lots of upper-classmen on this team.

You probably read that from me. and it was written in the context of people saying we were NC caliber this year.

MY position was - - - - -next year was more likely .

NSUDemon98
September 13th, 2006, 07:28 AM
Montana played 20 freshmen and 7 seniors in the South Dakota State game. We're losing 9 seniors after this season, 6 are starters.

27 kids got their first taste of college football two weeks ago versus Kansas...

AmsterBison
September 13th, 2006, 07:39 AM
Somebody did this for college basketball last year and actually came up with a number to represent a team's age.

I've given each player on North Dakota State's roster a "age value"; 0 for a true freshman, 1 for a redshirt freshman, 2 for a sophomore, 3 for a junior, and 4 for a senior). By taking the average of that, you could come up with one number to quantify a team's age.

1st Team/2nd Team
---------------------
Offense = 3.00/1.67
Defense = 2.64/2.45
Off & Def = 2.64/2.00

Just looking at this, you can kind of see that the offense starters are salty but their backups are raw. The whole roster comes in at a 1.73.