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CSN-info
October 13th, 2012, 10:42 PM
or in the case of Cal Poly, faring at this point... http://www.collegesportingnews.com/entry.php?230-Following-the-FCS-Scoreboard-10-13-2012

No huge surprises in the top 25 outside of ranked teams losing to other ranked (and conference) opponents - which are always close.

Even the ranked losses outside the top 25 were to teams close to the top 25 and conference games.
4. Old Dominion hosted and lost 38-14 to (31) Villanova (probably the only game close to a surprise)
20. Northern Iowa lost 34-31 at (34) Southern Illinois

Saturday, October 13, 2012

GPI TOP 25:
1. North Dakota State hosted and lost 17-14 vs. (25) Indiana State
2. Montana State hosted and lost 27-24 vs. (3) Eastern Washington
3. Eastern Washington won 27-24 at (2) Montana State
4. Old Dominion hosted and lost 38-14 to (31) Villanova
5. Cal Poly hosts (79T) Northern Colorado <=== CP LEADING BIG IN THE 4Q
6. Youngstown State lost 35-28 at (16) Illinois State
7. Georgia Southern hosted and won 17-9 vs. (8T) Wofford
8T. James Madison hosted and won 27-26 vs. (63T) William & Mary
8T. Wofford lost 17-9 at (7) Georgia Southern
10. Harvard hosted and won 35-7 vs. (95) Bucknell
11. Northern Arizona won 45-38 at (32) North Dakota
12. South Dakota State hosted and won 31-10 vs. (43) Western Illinois
13. Sam Houston State won 45-0 at (71T) Nicholls State
14. Appalachian State won 28-25 at (24) Samford
15. Stony Brook won 27-21 at (54) Coastal Carolina
16. Illinois State hosted and won 35-28 vs (6) Youngstown State
17. Central Arkansas won 27-26 at (19) McNeese State
18. Tennessee State won 40-28 at (71T) SE Missouri State
19. McNeese State hosted and lost 27-26 vs. (17) Central Arkansas
20. Northern Iowa lost 34-31 at (34) Southern Illinois
21. Albany hosted and won 36-13 vs. (83) St Francis
22. New Hampshire hosted and won 44-40 vs. (27T) Richmond
23. Eastern Kentucky hosted and won 45-14 vs. (103T) Austin Peay
24. Samford hosted and lost 28-25 vs. (14) Appalachian State
25. Indiana State won 17-14 at (1) North Dakota State

CSN-info
October 13th, 2012, 11:04 PM
ALL DONE NOW

Saturday, October 13, 2012

GPI TOP 25:
1. North Dakota State hosted and lost 17-14 vs. (25) Indiana State
2. Montana State hosted and lost 27-24 vs. (3) Eastern Washington
3. Eastern Washington won 27-24 at (2) Montana State
4. Old Dominion hosted and lost 38-14 to (31) Villanova
5. Cal Poly hosted and won 56-28 vs. (79T) Northern Colorado
6. Youngstown State lost 35-28 at (16) Illinois State
7. Georgia Southern hosted and won 17-9 vs. (8T) Wofford
8T. James Madison hosted and won 27-26 vs. (63T) William & Mary
8T. Wofford lost 17-9 at (7) Georgia Southern
10. Harvard hosted and won 35-7 vs. (95) Bucknell
11. Northern Arizona won 45-38 at (32) North Dakota
12. South Dakota State hosted and won 31-10 vs. (43) Western Illinois
13. Sam Houston State won 45-0 at (71T) Nicholls State
14. Appalachian State won 28-25 at (24) Samford
15. Stony Brook won 27-21 at (54) Coastal Carolina
16. Illinois State hosted and won 35-28 vs (6) Youngstown State
17. Central Arkansas won 27-26 at (19) McNeese State
18. Tennessee State won 40-28 at (71T) SE Missouri State
19. McNeese State hosted and lost 27-26 vs. (17) Central Arkansas
20. Northern Iowa lost 34-31 at (34) Southern Illinois
21. Albany hosted and won 36-13 vs. (83) St Francis
22. New Hampshire hosted and won 44-40 vs. (27T) Richmond
23. Eastern Kentucky hosted and won 45-14 vs. (103T) Austin Peay
24. Samford hosted and lost 28-25 vs. (14) Appalachian State
25. Indiana State won 17-14 at (1) North Dakota State

CSN-info
October 16th, 2012, 04:34 AM
10/15/12 Gridiron Power Index (GPI) has Cal Poly as the New No. 1
http://www.collegesportingnews.com/content.php?826-2012-Gridiron-Power-Index-(GPI)-has-Cal-Poly-as-the-New-No.-1

tingly
October 16th, 2012, 04:12 PM
Either I'm not understanding how it works, or the polls part is all screwed up. Cal Poly is #1 in both polls? NDSU is #6 in both? wha??!
http://www.collegesportingnews.com/stats/writer/gpi/20121015GPI.htm

RabidRabbit
October 16th, 2012, 04:31 PM
Either I'm not understanding how it works, or the polls part is all screwed up. Cal Poly is #1 in both polls? NDSU is #6 in both? wha??!

NDSU #2 in 10/15 poll, SDSU is tied for 6th in this newest GPI rating. Pretty good for a school that the Coaches don't believe is even a top 25 program.

Jacked_Rabbit
October 16th, 2012, 04:50 PM
NDSU #2 in 10/15 poll, SDSU is tied for 6th in this newest GPI rating. Pretty good for a school that the Coaches don't believe is even a top 25 program.

... And cue Dane freaking out about the GPI in 5... 4... 3... 2...

tingly
October 16th, 2012, 04:52 PM
If I'm right about this GPI being messed up, they're more like #1 and #10.

I know, I thought danefan was gonna pile on about 5 seconds after I posted.

Dane96
October 16th, 2012, 05:13 PM
... And cue Dane freaking out about the GPI in 5... 4... 3... 2...

Nope...and I am not speaking for him but just proffering an opinion...but Danefan and myself are like many others here: 1) we don't believe the GPI has a real value other than consolidation; and 2) we don't agree--without any hard evidence to give notice otherwise--that the GPI is an official tool used by the selection committee for anything other than the bridge qualifier. Since the bridge qualifier has never been used...we believe the tool is not used to the extent that Ralph claims it is.

It's pretty simple.

tingly
October 16th, 2012, 05:23 PM
I was thinking you'd both jump all over the alleged mistake, but it just hit me that that opinion means not caring if it's correct or not.

Twentysix
October 16th, 2012, 05:28 PM
Damn,

NDSU 2 - SDSU 6 - ISU-r 8 - ISU-b 11 - YSU 12

Dane96
October 16th, 2012, 05:32 PM
I was thinking you'd both jump all over the alleged mistake, but it just hit me that that opinion means not caring if it's correct or not.

Ahhh...you miss the point. I care so little about the GPI that I only rail against it's owner's false claims. I could care less about the ultimate '"correctness" of something that is flawed from the get.

Cheers.

tingly
October 16th, 2012, 05:40 PM
That's what I said. And you *could* care less if you weren't so lazy about it.

Dane96
October 16th, 2012, 05:46 PM
Oh Ralph...it's so good to have you back.

Want a cookie?

tingly
October 16th, 2012, 05:58 PM
Remember last weekend when we ran that joke into the ground, Ralph? Good times, good times.

MSUBobcat
October 16th, 2012, 06:07 PM
Damn,

NDSU 2 - SDSU 6 - ISU-r 8 - ISU-b 11 - YSU 12

CP 1 - EWU 3 - MSU 5 - NAU 6

tingly
October 16th, 2012, 06:22 PM
CP 1 - EWU 3 - MSU 5 - NAU 6 Throw all that out if they messed up the GPI. I'll do the top 4 and Ralph can do the rest.
1) 2.14 NDSU
2) 3.43 E. Washington
3) 5.29 Georgia So. - they got that one right
4) 5.71 Cal Poly

MSUBobcat
October 16th, 2012, 06:36 PM
Throw all that out if they messed up the GPI. I'll do the top 4 and Ralph can do the rest.
1) 2.14 NDSU
2) 3.43 E. Washington
3) 5.29 Georgia So. - they got that one right
4) 5.71 Cal Poly

Not sure what you are referring to saying "they messed up the GPI". In any case I was just saying if one values GPI, 4 in top 6>2 in top 6 or 5 in top 12.

tingly
October 16th, 2012, 06:45 PM
"*if* they messed up the GPI," but I'm as sure that they messed it up as I was sure that NDSU will go 11-0. :) I explained on page 1 with a link to their data.

Dane96
October 16th, 2012, 06:47 PM
On page 1, Ralph explained his screwup.

tingly
October 16th, 2012, 06:49 PM
heh, ok, that was funny. I'll take back my 'ran into the ground' comment.

Update, CSN corrected it.

NDSU 1 - SDSU 6T - ISU-r 9 - ISU-b 12 - YSU 15
EWU 2 - CP 4 - MSU 5 - NAU 6T
MVFC 1 - Southern 2 - Big Sky 3 - CAA 4

Twentysix
October 17th, 2012, 11:54 AM
I guess CSN changed the GPI

1. N Dakota St (4) (2.14)
2. E Washington (2) (3.43)
3. Ga Southern (5.29)
4. Cal Poly (2) (5.71)
5. Montana St (8.29)
6T. Northern Arizona (1) (11.00)
6T. S Dakota St (11.00)
8. Sam Houston St (11.14)
9. Illinois St (11.86)
10. James Madison (12.00)
11. Appalachian St (12.43)
12. Indiana St (13.71)
13. Harvard (14.00)
14. Wofford (14.29)
15. Youngstown St (14.57)

Jacked_Rabbit
October 17th, 2012, 12:35 PM
I guess CSN changed the GPI

1. N Dakota St (4) (2.14)
2. E Washington (2) (3.43)
3. Ga Southern (5.29)
4. Cal Poly (2) (5.71)
5. Montana St (8.29)
6T. Northern Arizona (1) (11.00)
6T. S Dakota St (11.00)
8. Sam Houston St (11.14)
9. Illinois St (11.86)
10. James Madison (12.00)
11. Appalachian St (12.43)
12. Indiana St (13.71)
13. Harvard (14.00)
14. Wofford (14.29)
15. Youngstown St (14.57)

Of the Big Sky teams in the Top 6, there has only been 1 head-to-head matchup (EWU @ Montana St.) between them. Once these teams start playing each other, it will be impossible for them to stay this high in the GPI and polls.

DJKyR0
October 17th, 2012, 01:52 PM
I noticed a Georgia Southern fan on another thread asking how NDSU could still possibly be #1 after losing to an unranked team at home. The answer? They were really freaking good to start with (still are) and taking them down a peg or three still has them at or near the top of FCS football. Sorry for partying.

ITmonarch10
October 17th, 2012, 02:26 PM
Of the Big Sky teams in the Top 6, there has only been 1 head-to-head matchup (EWU @ Montana St.) between them. Once these teams start playing each other, it will be impossible for them to stay this high in the GPI and polls.
Well a lot of the top Big Sky aren't going to be playing each other. NAU avoids nearly every good Big Sky team which makes me think 8-3 isn't going to be good enough for some big sky teams to make the playoffs.

Jacked_Rabbit
October 17th, 2012, 02:39 PM
Well a lot of the top Big Sky aren't going to be playing each other. NAU avoids nearly every good Big Sky team which makes me think 8-3 isn't going to be good enough for some big sky teams to make the playoffs.

You are right, even with their season finale against Cal Poly, it appears NAU has the softest remaining schedule.

Montana State has no remaining games versus the others in the current Top 6 of the GPI, EWU & NAU have only one (both vs Cal Poly) and Cal Poly has two (EWU & NAU, obviously). I still think there are a enough head-to-head battles here to ensure things are going to get shaken up. I also wouldn't be surprised to see teams like Montana, Sac State, UND or SUU sneak up and bite a couple of these squads either. Long story short, there is a ton of football left to be played - should be fun!

MTfan4life
October 17th, 2012, 02:55 PM
I noticed a Georgia Southern fan on another thread asking how NDSU could still possibly be #1 after losing to an unranked team at home. The answer? They were really freaking good to start with (still are) and taking them down a peg or three still has them at or near the top of FCS football. Sorry for partying.

If you're talking about the same post I saw, it's important to note it was the lakes of georgia southern who said that.