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Retro
May 24th, 2005, 01:54 PM
I started a new thread as the other had gotten long and since i forgot to vote in the poll and i made some comments that ralph didn't agree with, so he called me out! :spank:

Any way, here is my top 25 and you'll notice i'm going out on a limb for a couple of teams, but based on some players on those teams, i think they're due for a breakthru..

1. Furman
2. Northern Iowa
3. Montana State
4. Delaware
5. Texas State
6. James Madison
7. Montana
8. Appalachian State
9. Western Kentucky
10. William & Mary
11. Eastern Washington
12. Georgia Southern
13. Northwestern State
14. Umass
15. Mcneese State
16. Lehigh
17. North Dakota State
18. New Hampshire
19. Cal Poly
20. South Carolina State
21. Hampton
22. Southern Illinois
23. Northern Arizona
24. Coastal Carolina
25. Wofford

Let the criticism begin. :D

89Hen
May 24th, 2005, 02:14 PM
i'm going out on a limb for a couple of teams
3. Montana State
4. Delaware
5. Texas State
8. Appalachian State
15. Mcneese State
23. Northern Arizona
25. Wofford

You 'aint kidding! :p

Eaglegus2
May 24th, 2005, 02:21 PM
Hey Retro............be careful on that limb!!!!!! :D :D :D :rolleyes:

ISUMatt
May 24th, 2005, 02:22 PM
If you are going to have a poll that wild and unpredictable, at least put Illinois State and Indiana St in it!!!

OL FU
May 24th, 2005, 03:36 PM
1. Furman

His poll looks sane to me.

Hansel
May 24th, 2005, 04:17 PM
1. Furman
2. James Madison
3. Northwestern St
4. Eastern Washington
5. Georgia Southern
6. Northern Iowa
7. Montana
8. Delaware
9. Western Kentucky
10. New Hampshire
11. Harvard
12. Southern Illinois
13. William & Mary
14. Montana St
15. Hampton
16. Lehigh
17. North Dakota St
18. Jacksonville St
19. Massachusetts
20. Sam Houston St
21. Portland St
22. Cal Poly
23. Southeastern Louisiana
24. Lafayette
25. Grambling

Josh
May 24th, 2005, 04:18 PM
You 'aint kidding! :p

Retro is smoking some good stuff!

saint0917
May 24th, 2005, 04:42 PM
Where's Harvard? :D :p :eek:

according to Mr. C, you can't rank teams if you didn't see them live or on T.V. because your "Homework" would not be complete, maybe that's why Retro keeped them out :bang: :bang: :bang:

griz37
May 24th, 2005, 04:54 PM
Here is my top 25.

1. James Madison
2. Eastern Washington
3. Furman
4. Northwestern St
5. New Hampshire
6. Delaware
7. Cal Poly
8. Montana
9. Lehigh
10. Georgia Southern
11. Northern Iowa
12. Southern Illinois
13. Stephen F. Austin
14. Western Kentucky
15. Hampton
16. Jacksonville St
17. Wofford
18. Lafayette
19. Montana St
20. Villanova
21. North Dakota St
22. Maine
23. Nicholls St
24. William & Mary
25. Appalachian St

McNeeserocket
May 24th, 2005, 05:15 PM
I started a new thread as the other had gotten long and since i forgot to vote in the poll and i made some comments that ralph didn't agree with, so he called me out! :spank:

Any way, here is my top 25 and you'll notice i'm going out on a limb for a couple of teams, but based on some players on those teams, i think they're due for a breakthru..

1. Furman
2. Northern Iowa
3. Montana State
4. Delaware
5. Texas State
6. James Madison
7. Montana
8. Appalachian State
9. Western Kentucky
10. William & Mary
11. Eastern Washington
12. Georgia Southern
13. Northwestern State
14. Umass
15. Mcneese State
16. Lehigh
17. North Dakota State
18. New Hampshire
19. Cal Poly
20. South Carolina State
21. Hampton
22. Southern Illinois
23. Northern Arizona
24. Coastal Carolina
25. Wofford

Let the criticism begin. :D
I don't see Retro's poll as out of line. All of us are just guessing right now anyway. Did anyone have James Madison picked last year at this time to win the National Championship? I don't even know if anyone thought they would be in the top 10 or even top 25. How many people picked Delaware the year before?

I think anyone who is picking Northwestern State to be ahead of Montana is not thinking straight (except for Northwestern State fans). Northwestern has played Montana head-to-head several times now (at least three in the last 10 years) and has not beaten them. Last year's first round playoff showed Northwestern was never really in the game (and believe me when I say I would have liked them to have beaten Montana because I will always route for teams in my conference). Montana won't be worse than they were this last year and Northwestern State certainly won't be substantially better.

I think Texas State will be substantially better, maybe even top 10 better! Point is who knows until August camp what to expect from tradional power teams and from non-traditional surprise teams. Let August camp come and go and then see if all of our projections right now are just bad "shots in the dark."

Retro
May 24th, 2005, 05:26 PM
"There is no Reward without Risk"

One thing everyone should consider is that most teams who have great seasons, tend to have one thing in common.. They all have quality proven QB's... If you look back at last season, you see that all the teams that performed well into the season and playoffs, did so with proven qb's along with a decent supporting cast in most cases... I see that trend continuing this season barring some other breakout performers...

Also, I see the A-10 as very balanced conference at the top, therefore if any team has an advantage, it's delaware because they are consistent despite JMU winning it all last year and UNH and W&M also having great seasons... I think Texas state's Nealy and Montana State's Lulay will have great seasons and NAU's Murrietta will also rebound.

Harvard lost the key factor in their undefeated season and i don't expect to be as good, however they could still win the conference.

TheValleyRaider
May 24th, 2005, 06:23 PM
1. James Madison
2. Furman
3. Northern Iowa
4. New Hampshire
5. Western Kentucky
6. Eastern Washington
7. Montana
8. Lehigh
9. Georgia Southern
10. Delaware
11. Northwestern State
12. Southern Illinois
13. Massachusetts
14. Lafayette
15. Harvard
16. Jacksonville State
17. William & Mary
18. UC-Davis
19. Portland State
20. Eastern Kentucky
21. Hampton
22. Montana State
23. Appalachian State
24. Cal Poly
25. Grambling

Lapper
May 24th, 2005, 06:42 PM
OH GOODIE, no reasoning...I love it :D :

1. New Hampshire
2. Northwestern State
3. Eastern Washington
4. Furman
5. Northern Iowa
6. William & Mary
7. Georgia Southern
8. Montana
9. Appalachian State
10. James Madison
11. Coastal Carolina
12. Maine
13. Delaware
14. Lehigh
15. Western Kentucky
16. Lafayette
17. Southern Illinois
18. SC State
19. Jacksonville State
20. North Dakota State
21. Sam Houston St
22. Montana State
23. Hampton
24. Harvard
25. Massachusetts

Hansel
May 24th, 2005, 06:49 PM
OH GOODIE, no reasoning...I love it :D :

1. New Hampshire
2. Northwestern State
3. Eastern Washington
4. Furman
5. Northern Iowa
6. William & Mary
7. Georgia Southern
8. Montana
9. Appalachian State
10. James Madison
11. Coastal Carolina
12. Maine
13. Delaware
14. Lehigh
15. Western Kentucky
16. Lafayette
17. Southern Illinois
18. SC State
19. Jacksonville State
20. North Dakota State
21. Sam Houston St
22. Montana State
23. Hampton
24. Harvard
25. Massachusetts
CCU at 11, that is way too low.

blackfordpu
May 24th, 2005, 06:58 PM
Here is my top 25.

1. James Madison
2. Eastern Washington
3. Furman
4. Northwestern St
5. New Hampshire
6. Delaware
7. Cal Poly
8. Montana
9. Lehigh
10. Georgia Southern
11. Northern Iowa
12. Southern Illinois
13. Stephen F. Austin
14. Western Kentucky
15. Hampton
16. Jacksonville St
17. Wofford
18. Lafayette
19. Montana St
20. Villanova
21. North Dakota St
22. Maine
23. Nicholls St
24. William & Mary
25. Appalachian St

You have Nicholls St. and SFA in your top 25 ahead of W&M and Montana St.? WOW, talk about crazy, that is the definition of crazy! :eek:

Josh
May 24th, 2005, 07:01 PM
Since no other poll or magazine did better last year, let's hope our "shots in the dark" are even better this year. Of course we were the first poll last year so the others had the advantage of our poll for reference then too. :)

Are you going to do a comparison of this? I would be interested to see which poll had more top 10 picks right and top 25 picks right. how bad did AGS beat the others?

I would be interested in reading the stats on it. I bet most magazines are close to each other. I personally had 16 teams, I think, in mine.

How many did AGS, TSN, ESPN, and preseason annuals have correct compared to each other?

CrunchGriz
May 24th, 2005, 07:08 PM
W&M and Harvard just reload at QB.

As does Montana. Almost always in a very big way.

See my previous thread:
Montana QB Tradition (http://www.anygivensaturday.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1028)

rcny46
May 24th, 2005, 10:46 PM
Maybe I'm missing something,but I just don't understand the high regard a lot of the AGS voters have for UNH.I think UMass will come out on top in their division of the A-10,and if the wildcats make the field of 16,I'll be shocked.

MR. CHICKEN
May 25th, 2005, 08:46 AM
NEW HAMPSHIRE......DOESN'T HAVE TA PLAY JMU..NOR UD.......VERY WINNABLE OOC SKED......'NOVA & MAINE HOMEYS.........LOADED SQUAD DAT PUT DUH WHAMMY ON GSU!.....PROLIFIC QB!...CRAZY...ANYTHIN' GOES OFFENSE!.....:nod:......AWK!

LADS........WHILE AH HAVE YA'LL'S ATTENTION.......DUH AVIAN'S TOP 25:

1 JAMES MADISON
2 MONTANA
3 FURMAN
4 EASTERN WASHINGTON
5 NEW HAMPSHIRE
6 WESTERN KENTUCKY
7 GEORGIA SOUTHERN
8 NORTHERN IOWA
9 WILLIAM & MARY
10 LEHIGH
11 SAM HOUSTON STATE
12 DELAWARE
13 SOUTHERN ILLINOIS
14 HAMPTON
15 MASSACHUSETTS
16 JACKSONVILLE STATE
17 HARVARD
18 MONTANA STATE
19 VILLANOVA
20 EASTERN KENTUCKY
21 PENN
22 WOFFORD
23 HOFSTRA
24 APPALACHIAN STATE
25 CAL POLY

AFTERAH CLOSE SCRUTINY O' DUH "MOUSEKETEERS" SKED...AH SHUDDA DROPPED DEM FO' TEXAS STATE!...:rotateh:...................AWK!

rcny46
May 25th, 2005, 10:05 AM
UNH has a loaded squad? Overall,they're really quite average.For example,they had a D last year that gave up a lot of points.Five starters from that defense are gone,with no experienced replacements available,and they will have a running game that is lackluster from what I can see.If you put them up against the likes of Montana,Furman,UNI,WKU,EWU,JMU,etc.,there is no comparison to be made.Santos and Ball,IMHO,won't be enough to pull it off.

GannonFan
May 25th, 2005, 10:16 AM
They were fine last year to pull it off and this year they have the easy schedule to go along with it. UMass has a suicide stretch of 6 games to end the season - UMass could very well beat UNH as UMass can defend the pass and UNH can't run terribly well against the very suspect run defense of UMass, but I don't think the head-to-head will matter as UNH will have the better record.

WMTribe90
May 25th, 2005, 10:21 AM
W&M and Harvard just reload at QB.

Very true. I don't know of a time in recent memeory where WM had a sub-par QB.

Dave Corley went 6-2 as a first year starter in 99 after taking over full-time as the starter in game 4 of the season.

Mike Cook lead the Tribe to a 10-3 mark and within 3 points of a final four appearence in 96. His first year as a starter.

WM has a favorable schedule and an improved running game that will allow the eventual starter (Potts or Phillips) to get comfortable behind a veteran line before the meat of the schedule.

UNH_Alum_In_CT
May 25th, 2005, 10:37 AM
UNH can't run terribly well against the very suspect run defense of UMass


Actually, one of the reasons UNH lost to UMass last season was they chose not to run the ball. After that game, a more balanced offense was the game plan for the rest of the season.

No doubt, RJ Harvey will be missed and I don't know enough about the redshirt freshman to know if there is a speed merchant waiting in the wings. But I do know that UNH will have a veteran O-Line with only one starter missing. IMHO, a proven, veteran line should result in an adequate running game regardless of the quality of the running backs.

blackfordpu
May 25th, 2005, 11:19 AM
Here's mine. :)

1. James Madison
2. Eastern Washington
3. Western Kentucky
4. Furman
5. Delaware
6. Northwestern St
7. Sam Houston St
8. Southern Illinois
9. William & Mary
10. Georgia Southern
11. Harvard
12. Montana
13. Hampton
14. Lehigh
15. Jacksonville St
16. Lafayette
17. Cal Poly
18. North Dakota St
19. Wofford
20. Northern Iowa
21. Alabama St
22. Montana St
23. McNeese St
24. South Carolina St
25. Villanova
W. Jacksonville St
L. Southern Illinois

mlbowl
May 25th, 2005, 11:49 AM
1. James Madison
2. Eastern Washington
3. Georgia Southern
4. Delaware
5. William & Mary
6. Montana
7. Southern Illinois
8. Western Kentucky
9. Furman
10. Sam Houston State
11. New Hampshire
12. Cal Poly
13. Lehigh
14. Wofford
15. Northwestern St.
16. Northern Iowa
17. Lafayette
18. North Dakota St.
19. UMass
20. Villanova
21. Montana St.
22. Portland St.
23. Colgate
24. Harvard
25. Coastal Carolina

kats89
May 25th, 2005, 12:16 PM
Texas St? Ha!ha!ha! They haven't been over .500 in 10 years. xlolx

UMgrizzlies
May 31st, 2005, 05:06 PM
Ladies and Gentlemen, my top ten:
1. UNH
2. James Madison
3. Northern Iowa
4. Furman
5. E Washington
6. Delaware
7. Harvard
8. Hampton
9. Montana
10. Coastal Carolina

There, have your way with it :)

UMgrizzlies
May 31st, 2005, 05:07 PM
NEW HAMPSHIRE......DOESN'T HAVE TA PLAY JMU..NOR UD.......VERY WINNABLE OOC SKED......'NOVA & MAINE HOMEYS.........LOADED SQUAD DAT PUT DUH WHAMMY ON GSU!.....PROLIFIC QB!...CRAZY...ANYTHIN' GOES OFFENSE!.....:nod:......AWK!

LADS........WHILE AH HAVE YA'LL'S ATTENTION.......DUH AVIAN'S TOP 25:

1 JAMES MADISON
2 MONTANA
3 FURMAN
4 EASTERN WASHINGTON
5 NEW HAMPSHIRE
6 WESTERN KENTUCKY
7 GEORGIA SOUTHERN
8 NORTHERN IOWA
9 WILLIAM & MARY
10 LEHIGH
11 SAM HOUSTON STATE
12 DELAWARE
13 SOUTHERN ILLINOIS
14 HAMPTON
15 MASSACHUSETTS
16 JACKSONVILLE STATE
17 HARVARD
18 MONTANA STATE
19 VILLANOVA
20 EASTERN KENTUCKY
21 PENN
22 WOFFORD
23 HOFSTRA
24 APPALACHIAN STATE
25 CAL POLY

AFTERAH CLOSE SCRUTINY O' DUH "MOUSEKETEERS" SKED...AH SHUDDA DROPPED DEM FO' TEXAS STATE!...:rotateh:...................AWK!

2. Montana
Nice choice

MR. CHICKEN
May 31st, 2005, 06:11 PM
ANY AH TEAM DAT RUNNERS-UP DUH PREVIOUS SEASON.........GETS DUH RESPECT..AT START O' NEXT SEASON!.........MR. CHICKEN MAY SMACK........BUT COME I-AA POLL...KNOWS HOW TA BE FAIR!.....GOOD LUCK TA DA GRIZZWALD'S...PROVE ME RIGHT!............................................ ............BRRAAAWWWWKKKKK!



# 2...........WHAT WAS AH THINKIN'?...xidiotx....AWK!

AH MEANT MONTANA STATE!....xlolx...DO OVER...DO OVER!

Ronbo
May 31st, 2005, 10:27 PM
Interesting development at Montana is the possible Offensive scheme this season. The Coaches studied under Urban Meyer (Utah) last summer and installed some of his Offense last season. We went to the I-AA finals with just a partial installation of the Offense and Utah went 11-1. I wouldn't be surprised to see the Griz run a 100% Urban Meyer Offense this year. We have two very mobile QB's fighting for the starting job and the Utah Offense requires a rollout right-rollout left QB from the shotgun. Look for the Gators running it this fall.

TxState_GO_CATS!
June 1st, 2005, 04:48 PM
I started a new thread as the other had gotten long and since i forgot to vote in the poll and i made some comments that ralph didn't agree with, so he called me out! :spank:

Any way, here is my top 25 and you'll notice i'm going out on a limb for a couple of teams, but based on some players on those teams, i think they're due for a breakthru..

1. Furman
2. Northern Iowa
3. Montana State
4. Delaware
5. Texas State
6. James Madison
7. Montana
8. Appalachian State
9. Western Kentucky
10. William & Mary
11. Eastern Washington
12. Georgia Southern
13. Northwestern State
14. Umass
15. Mcneese State
16. Lehigh
17. North Dakota State
18. New Hampshire
19. Cal Poly
20. South Carolina State
21. Hampton
22. Southern Illinois
23. Northern Arizona
24. Coastal Carolina
25. Wofford

Let the criticism begin. :D

ooh buddy. you're a crazy one. Texas State at #5? I would include them in maybe the lower teens or so at the most. We haven't proven anything yet. But, I'm glad you're noticing what we have coming back for this year. And I'm guessing you got to see our team in person last year in Lake Charles? I expect NW St. to win the Southland again this year--they're crazy. But, I'm glad to know someone outside of Texas State is optomistic about our chances. hahahaha

TexasTerror
June 1st, 2005, 04:58 PM
ooh buddy. you're a crazy one. Texas State at #5? I would include them in maybe the lower teens or so at the most. We haven't proven anything yet. But, I'm glad you're noticing what we have coming back for this year. And I'm guessing you got to see our team in person last year in Lake Charles? I expect NW St. to win the Southland again this year--they're crazy. But, I'm glad to know someone outside of Texas State is optomistic about our chances. hahahaha

#5 is very optimistic. I put NW State at #5 in my poll, SHSU at 15 and your Bobcats at #25. I'm expecting those three teams to compete for the SLC. SHSU or the Bobcats will be 2 or 3 in some form or another, just depends on how our QB/WR develop. Not concerned about anything else. Welcome to ASG!