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McNeese72
December 15th, 2011, 02:56 PM
Not sure where to put this but I want a lot of people to see it.

Anybody else getting hit with virus attacks while visiting this website. My office desktop got hit with Windows XP Antivirus 2012 while reading messages here earlier in the week. I cleaned that all off and then yesterday morning, it got hit again with Windows XP Internet Security 2012 while here. The weak @ss AVG antivirus software that my it company put on my office computers isn't worth a cr@p.

I decided not to surf with my office desktop anymore but to use my laptop with Norton on it. Well, Norton just blocked an attempt while viewing the messageboard.

Anybody else having this or is it just me?


Doc

NoDak 4 Ever
December 15th, 2011, 02:57 PM
Not sure where to put this but I want a lot of people to see it.

Anybody else getting hit with virus attacks while visiting this website. My office desktop got hit with Windows XP Antivirus 2012 while reading messages here earlier in the week. I cleaned that all off and then yesterday morning, it got hit again with Windows XP Internet Security 2012 while here. The weak @ss AVG antivirus software that my it company put on my office computers isn't worth a cr@p.

I decided not to surf with my office desktop anymore but to use my laptop with Norton on it. Well, Norton just blocked an attempt while viewing the messageboard.

Anybody else having this or is it just me?


Doc

I have to admit. I got creamed by the Win 7 Antivirus 2012 on my desktop but both of my other laptops have been just fine so I cannot isolate this board as the cause.

TwoFeathers
December 15th, 2011, 02:59 PM
Yes, something strange happened on my PC yesterday/today. I had an unusual attempt on one of my online accounts. Never thought to associate it with this site, but it had never happened before.

TwoFeathers
December 15th, 2011, 03:01 PM
I have to admit. I got creamed by the Win 7 Antivirus 2012 on my desktop but both of my other laptops have been just fine so I cannot isolate this board as the cause.

I haven't noticed any blocks, is there a particular setting within Norton I should check and enable?

Cleets
December 15th, 2011, 03:21 PM
Not sure where to put this but I want a lot of people to see it.

Anybody else getting hit with virus attacks while visiting this website. My office desktop got hit with Windows XP Antivirus 2012 while reading messages here earlier in the week. I cleaned that all off and then yesterday morning, it got hit again with Windows XP Internet Security 2012 while here. The weak @ss AVG antivirus software that my it company put on my office computers isn't worth a cr@p.

I decided not to surf with my office desktop anymore but to use my laptop with Norton on it. Well, Norton just blocked an attempt while viewing the messageboard.

Anybody else having this or is it just me?


Doc


Interesting...
If it happens again please go to your Anti-virus reporting page that will have all the attacks line listed - copy and past it
and post it right here for us so we - Read it as it's written by your anti-virus software - then we can get a handle on what you're experiencing

ursus arctos horribilis
December 15th, 2011, 03:26 PM
Hey thanks for posting it and I don't know if it's from this site as I am constantly logged into it on a couple of computers and have not see it yet. If it is coming from this site and anyone can help me pinpoint it is or where it's coming from I'll fix it post haste.

I know on CS there was an avatar by one poster that was causing people's virus stuff to go on alert. PM me if you have any info. on what could be going on.

ursus arctos horribilis
December 15th, 2011, 03:26 PM
Cleets beat me to it.

Grizzlies82
December 15th, 2011, 03:28 PM
No problem evident here.

Though yesterday I clicked on a link within AGS. It was some "sports site" I was unfamiliar with and I don't remember the name. The link opened into a new page. After getting there and reading whatever it wouldn't allow me to close out that page. It essentially made my entire computer "unresponsive". Ultimately I had to shut down my computer to get out. :(

McNeese72
December 15th, 2011, 03:32 PM
Hey thanks for posting it and I don't know if it's from this site as I am constantly logged into it on a couple of computers and have not see it yet. If it is coming from this site and anyone can help me pinpoint it is or where it's coming from I'll fix it post haste.

I know on CS there was an avatar by one poster that was causing people's virus stuff to go on alert. PM me if you have any info. on what could be going on.


Not trying to cause any problems but it has happened with two of my computers while being on this website. I don't remembered if I clicked any links while here. I may have. I'll try to remember and will try to post the Norton warning later today or tonight.

Doc

ursus arctos horribilis
December 15th, 2011, 03:37 PM
Not trying to cause any problems but it has happened with two of my computers while being on this website. I don't remembered if I clicked any links while here. I may have. I'll try to remember and will try to post the Norton warning later today or tonight.

Doc

Doc, I wasn't assuming you are trying to cause problems at all. I assume you are helping us my man cuz we can't have things like that causing the user problems.

Truly appreciate you bringing it up.xthumbsupx

ursus arctos horribilis
December 15th, 2011, 03:42 PM
No problem evident here.

Though yesterday I clicked on a link within AGS. It was some "sports site" I was unfamiliar with and I don't remember the name. The link opened into a new page. After getting there and reading whatever it wouldn't allow me to close out that page. It essentially made my entire computer "unresponsive". Ultimately I had to shut down my computer to get out. :(

HEY! That happened to me a couple weeks back and I assumed it was just me. Was it a link to an ESPN type site to view games? I think that's where it happened to me and if so I'll go wrangle that link and get it gone.

If anyone else had that problem post it cuz it might not just have been me. It wasn't a virus but I was also forced to close the Firefox through windows task mgr. and reboot.

McNeese72
December 15th, 2011, 04:37 PM
Doc, I wasn't assuming you are trying to cause problems at all. I assume you are helping us my man cuz we can't have things like that causing the user problems.

Truly appreciate you bringing it up.xthumbsupx

I wasn't on very long and didn't look at many of the strings. The only link I clicked on was the Flanders' Flip youtube link but I can't get the attack to repeat clicking on it.

Here is the screen shot of the Norton attack report. I never heard of the website and can't get to it with my browser. Somebody more savy concerning computer virus can probably shed more light on the report.

http://www.geauxcowboys-eastside.org/images/intrusionattempt.jpg

Doc

McNeese72
December 15th, 2011, 04:45 PM
I couldn't google anything up on cooveh.com or cooveh.com/news but if I enter cooveh.com in my browser, I get access forbidden. If I enter cooveh.com/news in my browser I get the same Norton popup about the attack blocked. I have no clue as to why I would get attacked by that website here. And have no clue as to what it is. As I said, someone more savy about viruses could probably shed more light on the subject.

Doc

BEAR
December 15th, 2011, 04:47 PM
Doc's got to get off those flashy girly sites. Bro those are called viruses for a reason. xlolx

McNeese72
December 15th, 2011, 04:53 PM
Doc's got to get off those flashy girly sites. Bro those are called viruses for a reason. xlolx

:) Wasn't doing any porn surfing today.

Doc

P.S. Every time I see you screen name it makes me think of something from our game in Conway two seasons ago. Dr Hebert and his wife were seating in the McNeese section next to the UCA students. The students started chanting, "You see Heberts???" We kept pointing and telling them they are right here. But the UCA students kept asking and wouldn't pay attention. ;)

ursus arctos horribilis
December 15th, 2011, 05:01 PM
If getting off those sites is the only way to make sure I don't get viruses I will happily live with the viruses.

NoDak 4 Ever
December 15th, 2011, 05:07 PM
I'm pretty sure it was the "sports site" we are all familiar with. had to reinstall Windows it got so bad.

BEAR
December 15th, 2011, 05:09 PM
:) Wasn't doing any porn surfing today.

Doc

P.S. Every time I see you screen name it makes me think of something from our game in Conway two seasons ago. Dr Hebert and his wife were seating in the McNeese section next to the UCA students. The students started chanting, "You see Heberts???" We kept pointing and telling them they are right here. But the UCA students kept asking and wouldn't pay attention. ;)

Yeah. That year UCA had a heck of a FB named Hebert (pronounced hey-bear). His career was SHORT due to a leg injury if I remember right. Heck of player though. I remember watching that kid's runs through the middle and thinking, wow, not a speedster, but that horse that will get you a few hard yards. Memory lane. LOL

Edit: Just remembered Hebert transfered. I'll have to look up where. Hey, something to do in the off-season. xlolx

Grizzlies82
December 15th, 2011, 05:12 PM
HEY! That happened to me a couple weeks back and I assumed it was just me. Was it a link to an ESPN type site to view games? I think that's where it happened to me and if so I'll go wrangle that link and get it gone.

If anyone else had that problem post it cuz it might not just have been me. It wasn't a virus but I was also forced to close the Firefox through windows task mgr. and reboot.

Again I don't remember what site it was, however it was not ESPN. It was a name I wasn't familiar with so it wasn't Sports Network or such. The link was within somebody's post which led to a write up on one of the games (or possibly it was a video clip). If I bumble into that again I'll make note of the site name. At the time I just wanted to get the heck out of it.

Grizalltheway
December 15th, 2011, 05:22 PM
If getting off those sites is the only way to make sure I don't get viruses I will happily live with the viruses.

^
I'm with him.

McNeese72
December 15th, 2011, 07:46 PM
^
I'm with him.

We takes our chances. :)

Doc

ngineer
December 15th, 2011, 08:14 PM
A few days ago, I seem to recall I got a notice of a virus being blocked by my AVG program..Didn't bother to check the source, but I'll see what I can find.

superman7515
December 15th, 2011, 08:22 PM
I got the virus two nights ago, for me it was Windows Vista Antivirus 2012. It's a rogue, so it will adapt and pop up as whatever system you're running. One of the best tools you can have is MalwareBytes...

MalwareBytes Download (http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/download/anti-virus/malwarebytes-anti-malware)

It's free, updates several times a day, and will not negatively affect Norton so you can have both. MB had no problems removing the virus I got on here, but it's best to download it beforehand as most of the fake antivirus trojans will prevent you from using Firefox, IE, or whatever you're using to some extent (they'll prevent you from visiting sites like Norton, MalwareBytes, and other antivirus sites in an attempt to save its own life) and most have some capability to block .exe files, so if you don't already have MalwareBytes, it's more complicated than it needs to be. You can run MB anytime, but if you do get the virus, just restart the computer in safe mode if you find that you're having trouble (for instance, the version that is going around AGS will block you from updating Norton, so if you haven't updated it recently, you can't get the update to fix your new found virus).

ursus arctos horribilis
December 15th, 2011, 08:57 PM
I got the virus two nights ago, for me it was Windows Vista Antivirus 2012. It's a rogue, so it will adapt and pop up as whatever system you're running. One of the best tools you can have is MalwareBytes...

MalwareBytes Download (http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/download/anti-virus/malwarebytes-anti-malware)

It's free, updates several times a day, and will not negatively affect Norton so you can have both. MB had no problems removing the virus I got on here, but it's best to download it beforehand as most of the fake antivirus trojans will prevent you from using Firefox, IE, or whatever you're using to some extent (they'll prevent you from visiting sites like Norton, MalwareBytes, and other antivirus sites in an attempt to save its own life) and most have some capability to block .exe files, so if you don't already have MalwareBytes, it's more complicated than it needs to be. You can run MB anytime, but if you do get the virus, just restart the computer in safe mode if you find that you're having trouble (for instance, the version that is going around AGS will block you from updating Norton, so if you haven't updated it recently, you can't get the update to fix your new found virus).

Supe, any idea why it would be affecting this site specifically? I have not added or changed a thing on this site in over a month that I could even go "Ah-Ha" as a possible culprit.

Block-A
December 15th, 2011, 09:13 PM
Folks seem to think it could be a link to another site in a post somewhere.

Also, it is possible for malware to be embedded in the "rolling" ads that you get on web pages, from an ad service. Even Google was hit with this some time ago.

Apple recently had to deal with a run of infected Adobe Flash trojans that affect OS X. (I am told this was a fake installer, not necessarily ads. I'm not a Mac guy, tho.)

I certainly don't know that that is what happened, but it is possible.

Also, different anti-virus / anti-malware softwares will often detect things the others miss. I run Malwarebytes and Super Anti Spyware on top of AVG. All of them are free versions, which is cool unless you get something really nasty, becasue, for example, the free version of AVG does not scan for rootkit infections....

superman7515
December 15th, 2011, 09:49 PM
Supe, any idea why it would be affecting this site specifically? I have not added or changed a thing on this site in over a month that I could even go "Ah-Ha" as a possible culprit.

Can't honestly say. We had the same problem on two separate occassions last year, once for about a week or two last year when the site was using pop-up ads, there were some infected ads, and once when someone on here posted a link to a picture, the link led to a virus. It could be that simple, just a link on here that we all visited, but since it didn't happen immediately after clicking a link, I couldn't venture a guess. The way we knew last year was when the guy posted the link, as soon as you clicked it, a couple of users had anti-virus warnings go off, so whoever had posted it was able to just remove the link.

McNeese72
December 15th, 2011, 10:28 PM
I got the virus two nights ago, for me it was Windows Vista Antivirus 2012. It's a rogue, so it will adapt and pop up as whatever system you're running. One of the best tools you can have is MalwareBytes...

MalwareBytes Download (http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/download/anti-virus/malwarebytes-anti-malware)

It's free, updates several times a day, and will not negatively affect Norton so you can have both. MB had no problems removing the virus I got on here, but it's best to download it beforehand as most of the fake antivirus trojans will prevent you from using Firefox, IE, or whatever you're using to some extent (they'll prevent you from visiting sites like Norton, MalwareBytes, and other antivirus sites in an attempt to save its own life) and most have some capability to block .exe files, so if you don't already have MalwareBytes, it's more complicated than it needs to be. You can run MB anytime, but if you do get the virus, just restart the computer in safe mode if you find that you're having trouble (for instance, the version that is going around AGS will block you from updating Norton, so if you haven't updated it recently, you can't get the update to fix your new found virus).

Malwarebytes is the first place I go with virus infections.

Doc

Twentysix
December 16th, 2011, 02:13 AM
Not trying to cause any problems but it has happened with two of my computers while being on this website. I don't remembered if I clicked any links while here. I may have. I'll try to remember and will try to post the Norton warning later today or tonight.

Doc

Watchless animal porn.

Also, AVG is a free AV and is basicly worthless.

The only free AV I would suggest is Microsoft Security Essentials.

Lol, after reading a little of this thread, I rescind my offer to help anyone with computer issues.

Squealofthepig
December 16th, 2011, 02:46 AM
Watchless animal porn.

Screw that, that hot llama had damn well better be sporting a Rolex!

MTfan4life
December 16th, 2011, 05:39 AM
Not sure where to put this but I want a lot of people to see it.

Anybody else getting hit with virus attacks while visiting this website. My office desktop got hit with Windows XP Antivirus 2012 while reading messages here earlier in the week. I cleaned that all off and then yesterday morning, it got hit again with Windows XP Internet Security 2012 while here. The weak @ss AVG antivirus software that my it company put on my office computers isn't worth a cr@p.

I decided not to surf with my office desktop anymore but to use my laptop with Norton on it. Well, Norton just blocked an attempt while viewing the messageboard.

Anybody else having this or is it just me?


Doc

I have Norton, and I have been having the same issues. Luckily Norton is able to block each attempt, but it's weird that attacks are coming out of this site.

BisonBabe
December 16th, 2011, 06:16 AM
My McAffee has been giving me a regular blocked content message over the last week only when accessing this site so I think it is something here. I have not allowed the blocked content so no report to provide. Seems to hit as soon as I log into the site and come into this forum area. BTW this only happens on my laptop using Google Chrome not on my work computer using IE (hope this helps)

BisonBabe
December 16th, 2011, 06:20 AM
Speaking of which here is the message

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s130/ndhotmama72/mcaffeeimageonags.png

ursus arctos horribilis
December 16th, 2011, 11:41 AM
Watchless animal porn.

Also, AVG is a free AV and is basicly worthless.

The only free AV I would suggest is Microsoft Security Essentials.

Lol, after reading a little of this thread, I rescind my offer to help anyone with computer issues.

I've been telling people about the MSE for at least a couple years now and replaced the AVG to go with Avast and once I put MSE I pretty much couldn't believe that Microsoft had done something so correctly and were giving it away. I've had the pay versions and nothing has ever worded as well as MSE and been so in the background you don't even realize you have it. That's the best tip on here other than the Malwarebytes which I also use.

ursus arctos horribilis
December 16th, 2011, 11:44 AM
Cleeets, get ahold of your buddies that are in the know and lets trace this problem down.

bullitt_60
December 16th, 2011, 12:00 PM
Mine got hit last night. IT has been screwing with it for a couple of hours. I'm never going to leave...

Sent from my ADR6400L using Tapatalk

Cleets
December 16th, 2011, 12:05 PM
Goggle Adsense has been infected
Stay tuned ladies & Gentlemen
Please advise if you see a scrolling ad at the bottom of any AGS page

1) If no please reply here - no ads
2) If yes please reply here - scrolling ads active

BisonBabe
December 16th, 2011, 12:37 PM
Goggle Adsense has been infected
Stay tuned ladies & Gentlemen
Please advise if you see a scrolling ad at the bottom of any AGS page

1) If no please reply here - no ads
2) If yes please reply here - scrolling ads active

yes I see adds at the bottom of the page....but have not gotten the McAffee block yet in this session...will post later when I get the block ....

ursus arctos horribilis
December 16th, 2011, 12:38 PM
I see an ad too.

MR. CHICKEN
December 16th, 2011, 12:44 PM
16347.....YEAH...UH SCROLLIN' J.C. PENNEY'S...........HEY DEY GOT...40% OFF.....FREE SHIPPIN'....xrotatehx...TOO!

Cleets
December 16th, 2011, 12:54 PM
There should be no more issues regarding the scrolling ads
These were not attacks - they are called widgets - The scrolling advertisers are not supposed to run active widgets within their ad
However some do, the widgets include things like location & server finders / page viewing counting devices / time of day devices / all this is designed to help the scrolling advertiser to figure out who what and where they were showing.... they do this as an attempt to bypass Google. Google supplies them with the data monthly but they'd like it minute by minute so they write widgets into their ad-code

I repeat these are not attacks
However a good software protection package running with a web browsing application (Norton etc. etc.) will see it as a form of intrusion and become "alerted" because the ad is trying to find out some things about you... like where you are and what time of day it is where you are and if you can actually see the ad - or where you are viewing the page scroll in relationship to where the ad is running... etc. Widgets run on the interwebs all over the place


As I get more information I will update you - please take a deep breath - everything is fine

RichH2
December 16th, 2011, 01:00 PM
Cleets took your recommendation on MSE just installed. Of course if it screws up my laptop I will be forced to chastise you;)

BisonBabe
December 16th, 2011, 01:02 PM
Okay when I get the Block message from McAffee the adds at the bottom are missing just a red box ... now if someone could figure out which add it was that would be sweet.

F350KINGRANCH
December 16th, 2011, 01:06 PM
i got the same thing the other day, i second microsoft security essentials.

NoDak 4 Ever
December 16th, 2011, 01:07 PM
That antivirus 2012 spyware is BRUTAL. It shuts down pretty much every counter measure or ability to find counter measures.

BisonBacker
December 16th, 2011, 01:11 PM
16347.....YEAH...UH SCROLLIN' J.C. PENNEY'S...........HEY DEY GOT...40% OFF.....FREE SHIPPIN'....xrotatehx...TOO!

I thought you'd see one for BIG COCKS xlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolx

BisonBacker
December 16th, 2011, 01:12 PM
I thought you'd see one for BIG COCKS xlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolx

If I have to explain that Joke to anyone you need help!!

BisonBabe
December 16th, 2011, 01:12 PM
Okay Cleets here is a screen shot of the problem....I hovered over the red square where the add should have been....you will have to blow up the image but you should be able to see what the text is


http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s130/ndhotmama72/agserrormessage.png

Cleets
December 16th, 2011, 01:19 PM
Right you are Babe
It appears you have McAffee set on KILL
if you move it to stun or "medium" security it will continue monitoring(obviously) but it allows recognized widgets to pass
It's just a preference thing...

This site and google ads are perfectly safe - otherwise the entire internet would crash
scrolling ads are everywhere - and I mean EVERYWHERE

BisonBabe
December 16th, 2011, 01:23 PM
Right you are Babe
It appears you have McAffee set on KILL
if you move it to stun or "medium" security it will continue monitoring(obviously) but it allows recognized widgets to pass
It's just a preference thing...

This site and google ads are perfectly safe - otherwise the entire internet would crash
scrolling ads are everywhere - and I mean EVERYWHERE

Yep I have my settings set pretty high since occasionally the children use my laptop and they tend to find some nasty arsed viruses so I would rather be safe than sorry.

Cleets
December 16th, 2011, 01:29 PM
Yep I have my settings set pretty high since occasionally the children use my laptop and they tend to find some nasty arsed viruses so I would rather be safe than sorry.

Indeed,
and understood
Please be advised Google works diligently to remove the widget loaded ads
It's interesting advertisers with motion in their ads - moving or sliding images - sneak the widgets into the gif executable
also an ad format might get approved by Google as "clean" and then when the company "updates' the ad content they sneak in a widget or two


it's quite the cat and mouse affair

McNeese72
December 17th, 2011, 03:20 PM
I got hit at again when viewing this messageboard after the Sam-Montana game. Here is the alert box from Norton.

http://www.geauxcowboys-eastside.org/images/intrusionalert2.jpg

Doc

Twentysix
December 17th, 2011, 05:58 PM
I got hit at again when viewing this messageboard after the Sam-Montana game. Here is the alert box from Norton.

http://www.geauxcowboys-eastside.org/images/intrusionalert2.jpg

Doc

Look at the attacker URL. Your computer is infected with some kind of adware that is generating a popup to that virus website when you go to a safe site and you just are not seeing it happen(it is a background process).

Reformat your computer.

McNeese72
December 17th, 2011, 06:54 PM
Look at the attacker URL. Your computer is infected with some kind of adware that is generating a popup to that virus website when you go to a safe site and you just are not seeing it happen(it is a background process).

Reformat your computer.


Don't think so. I run MalwareBytes routinely on this laptop and it would detect it. Also, Norton is reporting an outside intrusion alert when surfing here. I think Bisonbabe might be right and it might be connected to one of the ads at the bottom of the page.

And, it hasn't been only this computer. My poorly protected (the AVG antivirus they put on it is not worth a *****) office desktop got hit with the Windows XP Antivirus 2012 virus while I was here last week. It was perfectly cleaned with MalwareBytes and a couple of other antivirus programs. It ran perfectly for two days until I came back here on it. And bang, I got hit with the Windows XP Internet Security 2012 virus.

Doc

Cleets
December 17th, 2011, 07:03 PM
Don't think so. I run MalwareBytes routinely on this laptop and it would detect it. Also, Norton is reporting an outside intrusion alert when surfing here. I think Bisonbabe might be right and it might be connected to one of the ads at the bottom of the page.

And, it hasn't been only this computer. My poorly protected (the AVG antivirus they put on it is not worth a *****) office desktop got hit with the Windows XP Antivirus 2012 virus while I was here last week. It was perfectly cleaned with MalwareBytes and a couple of other antivirus programs. It ran perfectly for two days until I came back here on it. And bang, I got hit with the Windows XP Internet Security 2012 virus.

Doc


You're running XP..?
Can I get you a copy of Windows 7 so we can move on from this problem

McNeese72
December 17th, 2011, 07:06 PM
XP is on the office computer because of the Dental software requires it. Laptop and desktop computer at home are Windows 7. Don't remember what is on my wife's laptop.

Doc

Cleets
December 17th, 2011, 07:10 PM
XP is on the office computer because of the Dental software requires it. Laptop and desktop computer at home are Windows 7. Don't remember what is on my wife's laptop.

Doc

The scrolling ads run some widgets that might cause some alerts on protection software
But this site is clean

Have you used Firefox as your browser..? Try that

McNeese72
December 17th, 2011, 07:15 PM
Nah, I think I will just not surf the web with that old office desktop with the crapola antivirus on it anymore. I'll stick with this laptop which is better protected.

I'll just drop this subject for now. I just wanted to make sure there wasn't a problem here when I started the string.

kingkat99
December 17th, 2011, 07:46 PM
Don't think so. I run MalwareBytes routinely on this laptop and it would detect it. Also, Norton is reporting an outside intrusion alert when surfing here. I think Bisonbabe might be right and it might be connected to one of the ads at the bottom of the page.

And, it hasn't been only this computer. My poorly protected (the AVG antivirus they put on it is not worth a *****) office desktop got hit with the Windows XP Antivirus 2012 virus while I was here last week. It was perfectly cleaned with MalwareBytes and a couple of other antivirus programs. It ran perfectly for two days until I came back here on it. And bang, I got hit with the Windows XP Internet Security 2012 virus.

Doc

I got the same virus from here as well. I haven't gotten rid of it yet.

McNeese72
December 17th, 2011, 08:17 PM
I got the same virus from here as well. I haven't gotten rid of it yet.

The guys at the MalwareBytes forum can be a great help. I'm going to work with one starting Monday to clean off that office computer again. Malwarebytes, by itself, wouldn't get rid of it.

Doc